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Portions of the unpublished Aether of Night were used in Mistborn, but changed significantly when moved over to The Final Empire trilogy. Some worldbuilding details were also used in Warbreaker. The Aethers themselves have changed a few times. IIRC the canon version that eventually appears in published works (and cameos in Oathbringer) is the third or fourth major revision of what Aethers are and how they work. Which also means that while there isn't much "spoilery" about the Aethers in AoN, you also won't learn much that applies. I have not read any of the Secret Project spoilers, so I can't comment on how much impact reading AoN would have there. . .

Adolin certainly received some much-needed character development in WoR. For me the highpoint is Ch 66 (spoiler - so you may want to wait and come back to read this when you get that far):

Subsumers do store nutrition, but it is unlikely that they could store organic essential trace elements separate from the calories (or hydration) in which they were ingested. Even if trace metals(minerals) were stored as part of the calories or hydration I doubt it could store non-metabolized minerals. Also, there is no guarantee that, for example, organic copper matches Allomantic Copper (as the former would have impurities as a biological component; while the latter has to be elementally pure)

I think this is the key. Breath is Connected to your Spiritweb and Identity, but isn't part of your Spiritweb. In the example given, Miles might heal A-Gold because the ability to use A-Gold is part of his Spiritweb, so that "hole" may be healed. Once you endow your breath to somebody/something sentient, the Identity keyed to the breath changes; it's no longer Connected to your Spiritweb, but there is also no gaping hole in the Spiritweb to be healed. WoB: That may change in the case of Hemalurgy stealing Breath, since that would leave a hole to be healed. . .

The Aon has to be corrrect at time of activation. For example, Galadon notes in Ch 7: So, an Aon on a physical object does nothing until an Elantrian "triggers" it (on or off) - which implies that if the Aon were marred or changed too much, then it could not be triggered in the first place. . .

I noticed, right after RoW, that Seons seem to use Rhythms. The discussion didn't go very far - but if the Seons and Skaze can tap into Rhythms, then that would also create an avenue for the various Selish magics to learn of, and use, Rhythm. Dakhor may already do so, through their use of Chanting. . .

Since this is the Mistborn forum, please don't forget to spoiler tag references to things from other series. . .

Welcome to the Forums Also, you can check out the Kelsier page on the Coppermind - but beware of spoilers if you have not yet finished the rest of the published Cosmere works. On the Wiki, the information is mostly in prose form, but annotated with links to the appropriate reference (WoB, Annotations, Chapter(s) in published works, etc.). Also, if you have not yet done so, check out the Annotations to the Era 1 Trilogy are a great source for what the author was thinking at the time he wrote those novels, including character motivation, reasons for author decisions, etc. Hope that helps

Exacty, which is why I believe you have to both know that Atium is affecting Fortune (even if not in those terms - Atium is allowing you to change the immediate future) and Intend to use the information you glean to do the same - adjust the immediate future. . .

I think that splitting the Shadow without your own access to Atium (via reaction) requires both knowledge and intent. Similar to how Wax didn't sense the coppermind medallion until he both knew it was a medallion and intended to sense and access it. Also how Wayne didn't sense stores in the Bands when he first "traded" for it because he didn't realize the spearhead was the Bands and had no intent to sense or access their power (whereas Marasi "realized" what they were - supplying knowledge - then formed the intent to use that information to acces the Bands). In Vin's fight with Zane she had to: Know that Atium was in use to change Fortune Know that using information from Shadows allows somebody to change those action(s) Intend to react only to what she learned by Zane's access to Fortune Not reacting to his movements per se - but how his movements indicated the information gleaned from the Atium

TFE Ch 13 Initial Explanation of Atium Note: it has been repeatedly said and shown that Era 1 metalborn have a flawed understanding of most metals - especially Atium. What is shown to happen should weigh more than what is said about it. TFE Ch 14 Vin using Atium to get passed the squad of soldiers inside Kredik Shaw. Note: the obvious near-zinc like emotional effect that is happening simultaneously with the increased mental acuity, mental speed and physical reflexes. BS has said a number of times that most metals (investiture) have req'd secondary effects that enable them to function (such as F-Iron) TFE Ch 30 Another example showing that reflexes move toward the level of "muscle memory" that can function without conscious control under the influence of Atium. HoA Ch 60 Note: the obvious physical effect of Atium - described as "he didn’t have the grace of pewter or the knowledge of a warrior, but he moved just right" My conclusion: The alloy known as Atium in Era 1 has an obvious mental, emotional, and physical effect (I would not be surprised to learn it also had addictive qualities) and that the temporal vision is a function of time, not speed (Inquisitor steelpushing the caltrops she sees the shadow even before the push because she saw them in the time needed to block with the book, Likewise with the arrows, she saw when they would affect her, regardless of status as fired or not. This implies that the shadows show what will happen (not intentions, not decisions, etc.) - likely based on Fortune, and likely with an EPR (error probability ratio) somewhere > 75% likely - and only somebody with access to Fortune (such as burning Atium - or knowledge of how burning Atium affects the future) can change aspects of that future. e. g. The arrow was where she dodged it, because the arrow was always going to be where she dodged it - not because a random guard decided to fire on a Mistborn standing on a roof (he was always going to fire at unknown people on the roof) - unless somebody with access to Fortune changed that aspect of the future and split the atium shadow to a new possibility

WoA Ch 4 Vin discusses Thugs vs Atium with Ham

Just so we have references for context: HoA Ch 44 Atium allows Yomen to follow the movements of the Pewter burning Eland Ch 60 Yomen sidesteps - not leaning back, not moving back - lateral dodges. . . Ch 60 Atium is shown to also have an effect on body movement - not as much as Pewter - but certainly more fluid than an untrained person fighting. WoA Ch 47 Vin clearly shows a certain mindset - to allow muscle memory and instinct to guide her action - then uses the information in Zane's flinch to change course. Zane clearly shows that with the split atium shadow he could still have blocked her - but he chose the wrong shadow to counter.

This was so painful to read - and I usually skip most of the chapter on re-reads; but I do think it serves a purpose in that: It really shows how little Tyn cares about others (allies, enemies, neutral) It shows how much Shallan is still swayed by peer pressure and/or what she perceives as "required" Tyn's teaching her, so she "needs" to do as she's told It does become the "gift that keeps on giving" as it is referenced later in the series. . . I found it to be neither funny nor a "good first interaction" - but it was good to finally see Kaladin through somebody else's POV.

Or make it happen faster because you are constantly holding large amounts of investiture. . .

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But they have had contact. Even the Alloy of Law Broadsheet showed: Not to mention the incidents related in BoM (where the Hunter was met in the mountains years before the Allik's ship crashed. There were probably more random incidents in the previous years (like the incident above and similar to random encounters with natives and vikings in North America in the centuries before Columbus was even born). I would imagine that since both continents lost 75+% of their population and that hundreds or thousands of miles separate the settled areas of North and South, 300 yrs seems a short amount of time to rebuild infrastructure, regrow population, innovate technology and explore the new/unsettled areas. SA Spoilers:

You must have really misunderstood. The Sovereign came to them 12 years post-catacendre - and in that 12 years, they lost an unspecified significant portion of their population, and suffered a near-collapse of their entire society. They started with what is the current map. HoA Ch 82 Unless you meant we don't know where on the map Khlennium was located - that is true. Coppermind

Please keep all TLM material in the appropriate spoiler section. The Southern Scadrian territories are not warmer than the Elendel Basin, nor the Southern Roughs. Remember, they need the firemothers to make bronzemind medallions just to survive their own territory too. Rashek moved the continents to the poles when he moved the planet closer to the sun. He used ashmounts and genetic changes in the north to keep the area "cool" and help them survive - but he used neither of these in the south. So, over a millenium, the SoScads naturally adapted to a much hotter climate. When Harmony restored the planet to its original orbit and the continents to their original locations; their new physiology is incompatible with the current, normal, climate. WoB: I think it is more like taking somebody from (for example) southern Texas who has never seen snow and letting them visit Michigan in May. The temp will be 50s-60s and the locals will be wearing shorts and t-shirts while the Texan will be bundled in a jacket and still feel "cold."

While the whole work won't be released (see below) you can at least read the collected passages in the Coppermind (ditto Words of Radiance). Words of Brandon:

I don't think it was explicitly stated. . . Presumably, when Dalinar traded Oathbringer for the bridgemen and told them to "bring your things," at least some of the crews brought their bridges so they could travel back to Dalinar's warcamp.

No worries. I'm often told at work that I rarely make sense to anybody but myself

I said: You said: So I was elaborating that, even for a person who intends to only read Mistborn, but never read any other Cosmere works - they should still read Secret History after The Bands of Mourning (at least the first time) because: With the exception that if the person doesn't care about spoilers, then obviously reading order doesn't matter nearly as much.

Emporer's Soul is, arguably, Sanderson's best work of any length (and won a Hugo to prove it) - it is set on the same planet as Elantris, but in a very different location, and with very few connections. It can totally be read on it's own, even if you never read Elantris. Hope of Elantris is a sort-of Epilogue to the novel Elantris. Read after the novel, but not separately (*see below - non-spoiler) From the Hope of Elantris Intro: If you have not read Mistborn Era 2 and Secret History before reading Rhythm of War - than an event/reference/scene in Rhythm of War that may be quite important thay may go unnoticed because you lack the context to think "Wow, that's a BFD." However, I have a feeling that a similar moment will happen when you read Era 2, Secret History, and The Lost Metal. If you have already read RoW, then that event/reference/scene will suddenly "make sense."

Also, if you are thinking of "The Eleventh Metal" (Malatium) - remember that the presense of Atium adn Malatium on the Allomancy table was a change made by Preservation and reversed by Harmony. WoB For Preservation's long plan, he needed the people of Scadrial to be able to use up Atium, and replaced Cadmium and Bendalloy from the "16" metals (since those two would be unavilable until technology and metallurgy progressed enough to refine them). So, the presence of Malatium was already an artificial construct that was reversed by Harmony.