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  1. You seem to think these are mutually exclusive. I'm not sure that they are. I think of it as more of a Venn Diagram - that Odium has sway over not just "hatred" but those things that intersect with the concept and can be influenced at the points of intersection. e.g. - not just Bravery, but specifically combat bravery as expressed by the Thrill (including bravery in the execution of violence). After all, (Mistborn spoilers)
  2. I always had the impression that Rayse "doth protest too much." His claims of being "all passions" are a long con he's playing on himself, along with a barely recognized scam he is playing on others. Viewpoints from Venli and Leshwi support this, but the most direct evidence is (RoW Ch 114): Sure, there may be elements of "passion" and "emotion," but it seems only in how they connect to violence and hatred (such as the Rhythm of Anxiety becoming the Rhythm of Agony).
  3. In world, it is entirely possible "Origin" is simply a recognized name for "in the ocean to the east" since weather science is not developed enough to understand how a storm develops over water and may not correspond to a single specific physical location. I feel like this was already addressed in WoR when Stormfather caused the "Origin" to make a new Highstorm out-of-cycle to match the Everstorm. I also think that is one difference between the Everstorm and a Highstorm: The Everstorm is every nine days (except when Odium interferes) because it is one storm circling Roshar Highstorms are a non-random, non-regular cycle because the develop over the ocean before moving over land
  4. Yes, Stormlight heals a surgebinder. You may like the next pair of Shallan chapters
  5. Well, we have this WoB: So, we know that the Fifth Heightening grants Agelessness, but what we do not know for sure is: (Mistborn/Stormlight spoilers included)
  6. While I would never suggest a new-to-the-Cosmere reader start with Stormlight Archive, I've known a few who have done so and it usually takes a few re-reads (or time on the Coppermind after finishing the published works) to find most of the connections/interactions. Also, while posting in the Stormlight Archive forum, just mentioning no spoilers for RoW should suffice (as spoilers for any other series should already be under a spoiler tag based on the Forum Spoiler Policy). Keep in mind though, that if you post in the Cosmere Discussion thread, you will need to mention what series you have or have not read if you want to avoid other spoilers. Thaidakar is the leader of the Ghostbloods. You will get more information on that individual in RoW Restares is the leader of the Sons of Honor. You will get more information on that individual in RoW. This is commonly believed to be about King Taravangian, leader of the Diagram. This is beleived to reference the god-priest Tezim, leader of Tukar. You will get more information on that individual in RoW.
  7. Thanks for the reference, and true. I guess I wasn't clear - I meant that since we know large amounts of Investiture, left alone, can develop sapience (or at least sentience) we don't know that there was a Vessel (like Leras, Tanavast, etc) that was killed - or just the mind of Adonalsium that was Shattered. Good catch
  8. They were never all bodyguards. Even in Words of Radiance, only Bridge Four and the first crews trained after that became bodyguards. The rest were training for other guard duties (patrolling the market, patrolling the wastes outside the Shattered Plains, hunting the slavers and bandits - such as the group that attacked the caravan Shallan joins in WoR, etc.) In OB (ch 122), it mentions that the men of Bridge 13 become Teft's Squires
  9. Not precisely correct. Your statement implies the Dawnshards were weapons; like a knife wielded to kill the deity. The quote is (Ch 19): So, the Commands were a part of the creation of reality, and were somehow used in the Shattering. Was Adonalsium killed? Possible, but not definite that it was even a being that could be killed. For all we know Adonalsium is like Gaea or the World Tree - a personification of reality but not *actually* a discreet being. We just don't have enough information. We only know that holding the Dawnshard seems to give Rysn effects at least similar to the Third Heightening. She does not seem to have breaths, nor can she Awaken.
  10. Unlikely, Sazed-as-Harmony made specific changes to the Koloss while remaking Scadrial during the Catacendre, and specifically made them a breeding species. We have no indications that this would apply to other hemlurgic entities/races. From the Coprermind: Sometimes it is the fault of the browser, not the user. Simply click "report post" on the top of each post and list the reason as "Duplicate post" and the mods can sort it out.
  11. Since the Obligators hid what Atium went to Luthadel in Ministry treasury chests, they would have Boxings and Clips that could be shaved for some metals (I don;t recall if they ever mentioned what Metals they were stamped from). Also , there may have been tin or pewter utensils/plates/cups that could also be shaved for basic metals.
  12. This is very much a YMMV* question, as it at least partially depends on how much you enjoy alternate versions and/or seeing "could-have-beens." If you are unsure if that is something you might enjoy, may I suggest possibly taking a look at Altered Perceptions - an anthology that supports Mental Health Charity and was put together by Dan Wells (in support of his brother Robison Wells - and others struggling with mental illness). Sanderson was a contributor - and excerpts from WoK Prime were his contribution (CH 1, 3, 5, 12, 17, 22), so you can read some excerpts and see if it is something you might enjoy or not. Excerpt from the Introduction: Contents: *Your Mileage May Vary
  13. That was confirmed to be Kelsier later in the prologue: As for Allomancy, I think if he used anything, he used Zinc. If he rioted fear, then it would only have an effect if Tresting felt the fear to begin with (as per Breeze's later explanations on reading peoples moods because you can only dampen or riot what they already feel, not force an emotion that isn't there). In my head canon he did use Zinc and the smile was because it worked and he saw Tresting take a visible step back. . . While he didn't go there to kill Tresting initially, he did go there to stir the pot and influence the Skaa toward rebellion (or at least plant the seeds of teh idea). I don't think that he would see some increased harsher treatment as a bad thing to work toward that goal.
  14. No worries - the first feast was the first one I mentioned where Adolin says Renarin has decided to avoid talking in front of Wit to avoid mockery.
  15. It's on the Greatshell hunt in TWoK Ch 15: There was also a scene in Ch 12, but that was when Renarin was trying to avoid Wit.
  16. Possible. . . But remember that Sazed wasn't there when Vin was experimenting with aluminum alloys, he was with Marsh and didn't return until after she discovered Duralumin. Also, while I know absence of evidence is not, itself, evidence - we get no indications that he is surprised at either Aluminum or Duralumin as Allomantic metals (no "Hey, wonder if I can use this as a metalmind") which, to me at least, means it is possible the keepers knew they could be a Feruchemical storage (even if they didn't know/understand how to use them). After all, don't they say the Terris are still experimenting with the Spiritual metals in Era 2 - but then they've had their keepers killed off twice by then. . .
  17. I'm guessing you mean this part: I won't spoil anything, I'll just remind you of some of your previous posts. . . and let you ponder possible similarities.
  18. Well, that's the debate. . . . . . but to my mind there almost had to be. We know that at the end of TFE, the Synod sent keepers to all dominances to start spreading the knowledge they had kept safe for a millenium. We know Tindwyl berates Sazed for not doing this duty mid-way through WoA and not long after we know the inquisitors have killed the Synod in Terris. There is no reason to think they would have rrecalled those keepers sent on education expeditions between the end of TFE and the inquisitor attack. There almost had to be some keepers "out and about" after the scouring of Terris. . . at least until Ruin was freed. Which is why I theorized above about the feruchemical storages being "metal piercing a man" that might have allowed Ruin to find the others but miss Sazed because he stopped wearing his storage minds (going so far as having the rings surgically removed after WoA). It's possible they already knew. Sazed alludes at the end of TFE that the keepers knew of storages they didn't use much because (without compounding) they either weren't very useful, or they didn't know how to use them.
  19. Source Another thought - He may not have wanted a Feruchemist-as-Inquisitor if some of the spiritual abiities (such as F-Aluminum) would have made it possible to throw off his control (or even just the "not-actively-controlling" stasis). Why risk it (assuning it was possible) when the slaughter was nearly complete before he was free and continuing what was started is more fun anyway. Also, it makes me wonder if, after he was free, the remaining Feruchemists were sacrificed via control. Don't trust anyone pierced by metal! Even the smallest bit can taint a man. Was Sazed the last surviving Feruchemist because he stopped wearing his earrings and other jewelry? Does it have to be a Hemalurgic charge in the spike? Could the other Keepers' Feruchemically charged "spikes" have let him assert some level of control (similar to Penrod)? If yes, then there's no need to make them Inquisitors, he already has control (or at least influence) there.
  20. I took it to mean "can't or you die" with a possible side of "When a Divine Breath is used with a command, it is expended" (people healed with Divine Breath do not gain the Divine Breath) - so 80% "die if you do" but possibly "Could do it, but the object awakened would not gain the Divine Breath - just any effects of it's being expended." Stormlight Spoilers:
  21. Take that first sentance further. . . The Divine Breath keeps a Returned alive. If the Divine Breath leaves (either being consumed, expended for healing, spiked away - or - used to Awaken) the Returned dies. I very much doubt a Returned could Awaken with a Divine Breath and survive; if it was just a matter of having other breaths to consume then Vasher could have done so in the Prologue (he had enough breath to Awaken the straw construct and the cloak). Since he could not have used the Divine breath to Awaken then, it follows that a Returned cannot use a Divine Breath to Awaken. Do you mean then, that a Divine Breath spiked away might be used to awaken by a Hemalurgist?
  22. Nope - WoB (Technically Warbreaker annotation to the Prologue pt 3): It's not the whole story (because Nightblood is unique), but there was a hint of an answer in Warbreaker (ch 21): But I would guess that you are at least close to correct. It might not be lifesense per se, but most Cosmere investiture has "Secondary powers" that enable it to achieve the investiture's intent; so I would guess that Investiture+Command conveys enough Connection for them to "see" their surroundings. Another good example was when Vasher used the straw constructs to find the thieves' tunnels in Ch 49. Spoilers for SA and Mistborn
  23. Keep in mind, we don't really know that was what Maya meant to say - only that Adolin thought that was what she meant We don't know it was Surgebinding - or, if it was, that is was the same or related to how Surgebinding functions on Roshar. We know that it was a form of investiture, and likely paired with a Dawnshard that increased the scope and range to cause the damage on Ashyn. Also, it's entirely possible that the "void" of Odium is different for Humans and Singers, since Singers have gemhearts and are connected to the Rhythms. While humans like Moash have an emotionlessness about them, Singers lose normal access to the normal emotional Rhythms of Roshar (which are replaced by Odium's versions) and struggle to access those less-violent emotions without intervention (such as Timbre).
  24. All of the allomantic metals have Cosmere-wide properties, as seen in the RoW Epigraphs Example: True, that's why Tin replaced Silver as an allomantic metal. It does not explain why silver has other (mostly unknown) cosmere properties. WoBs: I doubt I'm correct, as this is just WMG - but I thought it an appropriate example of a possible metal that is common, is known to have Cosmere properties (even if those properties are largely unknown), and could easily be overlooked when looking for a pre-shattering metal.
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