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How much of Stormlight Archive have you read? (Oathbringer spoilers)

Glad you are still enjoying the story. Thanks for your recap. It will be interesting to see if, and how, this opinon changes by the end of Oathbringer and Rhythm of War. Odium claims that he is Passion (not just hate) - but if that's true, lie, or self-deluson is unclear at this point. It has been confirmed outside of the stories that the Herdazians and Horneaters both have some Singer blood in their ancestry. Good catch. You'll get more Eshonai in Rhythm of War, since she and Venli are the flashback characters for Book 4. Yes, (Mistborn Spoilers) Hmm, indeed. You will at least get more info this book. RAFO. Could be interesting

Then, I would say one possible intro campaign might be that some or all characters are escaped plantation Skaa that have heard an army is forming - somewhere - but they arenlt sure where, aren't sure how to make contact, and are on the run trying to find safety. You could even have their Snap happen during this first part of the game (or be really "interesting" and don't let them know who will Snap or what kind of Misting they may become - you can decide yourself based on how they play and interact either choosing a complimentary skill or a contradictory skill that forces character growth). It would be up to the characters if they ever follow thorugh with finding the caves and trying to join the rebellion. Maybe one of the group is already a Misting or member o the Underground that convinced the others to escape? Lots of choices. You could even have them from the rim of the dominance (e.g. Faleast on the border of Central and Eastern Dominances - but have to pass both the Black Lake and Luthadel to get to the area around the caves) to increase the distance they must travel wile remaining incognito.

No, Sapient beings do not appear as gems, they appear as the soul lights you described. Unfortunately, we don't know how she forced a change as she did; though she does mention when working with substances you have to change your bargaining style. Oathbringer Ch 120:

Interesting conspiracy theory, but also remember that she accidently drew them when trying to sketch Kasbal too. I don't think a cryptic would have been drawn to Taravangian - they seem to prefer those who lie to themselves - he was always transparent with himself (and just lied to everybody else).

Have you read The Emperor's Soul? On object that is seen as a single whole, and views itself as a single whole is treated as a single object. When Shallan Soulcasts the Wind's Pleasure (WoR Ch 7) it is a single sphere (not a sphere for each component): For a Radiant, the Stormlight for the change is coming from them, not a gem. So the Gem color is a "feature" of the Fabrial version not Radiant Soulcasting (Error - Jossed by Alder's WoB). Jasnah's uses of gems in her fake soulcaster was a convenient excuse to both carry and use the Stormlight without exposing that she was becoming Radiant.

I'll caveat this with: I think White Sand is what they are referencing when they say "bone spore" (Tress ch 23); but I don't think What Sand is actually a spore. I think the people of Lumar consider it a (legendary) spore only because White Sand is also controlled with a Luhel bond. That said, I also think that a Sandmaster would adapt well to controlling Aethers. Well, we see Tress overmaster in Ch 31, and we see that her ability to control the Midnight is fairly increased by the time she usurps the bond from Crow (Ch 49) and Fort (55). This is interesting, though we don't know that Aether Rosite would act/react like Spore Roseite. I think there is a distinct difference there, and you accurately identified Spores as the part more integral to future fabrial tech. It may be interesting to discover if the person being shot could establish/usurp the luhel bond to prevent further "growth" from the bullet.

Welcome to the Forums. Here are some tips and tricks in case they might help: Can we please get some more information to make any ideas more appropriate? What era does this take place (same as the novels; 1st, 3rd, 8th century TFE, etc) What dominance does this take place? What kind of characters are in the group (Faux-Skaa like Breeze, Skaa like Dox, Half-Nobles like Kelsier and Marsh, distant heritage like Hammond, unknown heritage like Vin) and what are their concept(s) (Skaa rebellion, thieving crew(s), underground, etc.)?

Welcome to the forums. Lots to see, read, and learn. May we ask what, if any, you have not yet read (besides unpublished material) in case we need to avoid spoilers for any questions you may have? Also, you may find this thread useful (even if you have read everything) since it discusses using the Coppermind and The Arcanum. You waskawy wabbit. I totally did not want others to be corrupted by my example and share the tips and tricks with slaves recruits new sharders. You can also report the extras to the admins (using Report Post) and they will delete them.

AFAIK this is a RAFO for Elantris 2. My best guess is that odium did more than pack the proverbial suitcase (stuff more into the CR than should fit) - he likely set it up so their investiture cycle returns to the CR instead of the SR. Total guess though.

Yes. High amounts to generate change. Low residual investiture in a changed object/person. I guess there is an arguement for "low" across the board, since the investiture never passes through the Forger - it goes straight from the Dor to the object's Spiritweb, then the change cascades back down through the cognitive (where it is either rejected as implausible, or accepted as plausible) and into the Physical realm if it was plausible (with the time of change reflecting the level of plausibility).

Not really a contridiction - the first WoB is about how much investiture it takes to affect change. The second is about how much residual investiture remains after the change. I don't see a conflict.

Yes, less than a year. Oathbringer Ch 38:

Welcome to the forums. Before we cover possible spoilers, can you tell us have you read any Mistborn other than the first Trilogy (Such as Era 2 and especially Mistborn Secret History <spoilers for Era 2, Bands of Mourning and Lost Metal>). How about other works in the Cosmere, have you read any of them? I'll try to limit possible spoilers until we know for sure. It's not really omniscience, rather a capacity to see/experiiece more without much limitation on location - but is still very bounded by how much he can divide his attention to events. Covered in greater detail in Mistborn Secret History. This deals with the fact that Preservation and Ruin were opposites in this as well (covered more in-depth in Secret History) - Vessels holding Preservation can receive thoughts and impressions from mortals, but not send information (displayed in the "mist spirit's" inability to talk or send thougths to Vin or Elend) - but Ruin can only send thoughts (not hear thoughts). Vin had preservation, and could hear (but not "speak" to Elend*) - and Sazed picked up both (and could both send and receive). Some thought did get through to ELend, but only because they shared another Connection beside's her Shardic nature - also explained more in Secret History. Ruin could only see into places like that when an individual with whom he had a connection was present. He "saw" into the Fadrex Cavern only once Vin arrived (and still could not determine the Cache was not there until told - because he wasn't really "seeing the cavern" so much as "seeing Vin's location" and interacting with her. It's the same reason he needed Marsh to read Spook's message aloud. His personality is a specific clue, not only for Mistborn, but for other things happening in the Cosmere. It's because of this that his ability to "see" well is limited. He's blinded by events that lead to decay without seeing the possibilities that don't go down that path.

I wonder if it would interact with sense(s) that aren't governed by a specific sensory organ, such as propioception. Sure, it's a nerve signal - just from a intra-muscular neurons rather than a sensory organ. From Da Wiki:

Welcome to the forums. In case it comes in handy, here are some tip and tricks: @Koloss17 - you have been summoned. While you await a far-too-in-depth essay on the Properites and Benefits of F-Tin by Sense-Master Koloss; please see these threads: F-Tin's the best Overthinking F-Tin (Again) F-Tin: The Ultimate Day-To-Day Comfort Metal F-tin cult! There has been much discussion on the topic. Here are some of the known WoBs:

Skip Warbreaker entirely? @BraXzy - I normally do not recommend reading Mistbon Eras 1 and 2 back-to-back for the first reading, but if you do that just keep in mind that the setting has changed a lot. I actually started in the Cosmere with Mistborn Era 1 (Alloy of Law had just been published when I found these books) and I read TFE, WoA, HoA and AoL as my first four books. The dissonance of change was so jarring (esp because I did not expect it) I nearly didn't finish Alloy at all and would have walked away from all of the Cosmere if a friend hadn't loaned me Elantris. I read that, then found the WoB (below), then went back and finished Alloy of Law and continued to read the Cosmere. But without Elantris to restore my faith in Sanderson as an author, and without the WoB to explain why I felt such dissonance on the setting changes in Alloy of Law - I may not be on this Forum or have read any of these great stories. Mistborn WoB (slight spoiler - but not for books themselves) Speaking of Warbreaker, if you read it free on the Sanderson website (yes, the whole novel is free), then each chapter has links to that chapter's annotations (book spoilers exist in the annotations - but are hidden). The eBook also comes with the annotations included. However, I would recommend reading through the book first, then reading through the annotations afterward (the ebook offers both options since the Annotations are after the book - but each chapter has links back-and-forth if you want to read it that way).

Yes, they are. . . in the same way that the splinter in your finger was once part of a tall hardwood tree. Also note: Having some or most of the parts of Honor's shattered investiture would still not be enough to reform the Shard of Honor:

So, there's a few things. as @Lord Magire mentioned, having thousands of years to develop has allowed humanity to surpass the level they were at for the first desolation When we are shown the Desolation effects - that was the end of a Desolation, after 10-15 yrs of war Humans were at (presumably) the Iron age at the start, lost some knowledge in the war, recovered, lost more, recovered - when Taln implies they may be below the tech level of casting bronze it's because after dozen(s) of Desolations they had been slowly pushed down the tech tree from Iron age to Bronze age to stone age Also a large percentage (possibly 50+%) of the Fused are also Mad now, so many of their warriors are also unavalable/ineffectual. Finally, the fighting isn't as widespread in this desolation (so far) because, as you noted, half the nations of man capitulated without a fight. We are barely one year into a war that, traditionally, lasted over a decade of constant warfare. We have yet to see how bad it can get.

Likely the latter - Being a Kolossblood is more like being on the upper bellcurve of normal human for strength, speed and agility (far below the level of Pewter/BoP/etc. since Tarson is described as only slightly more enhanced with his pewter than a normal thug because he was starting from a slightly higher baseline than normal) Until they undergo the ritual and gain the spikes to become full Koloss, they are more like a professional athelete (upper bell curve) than "magically aided physical abilities." It's not about "training up" (at least not in the phycial training sense) it's about consuming extra mass, for those practiced enough to create their own muscle systems rather than straight copy a muscle, and using that extra mass to change the density and facility of the muscles they do copy. HoA Ch 66:

^This. Chimera Syndrome (Mosaicism) has shown humans with more than one DNA profile - either genetically, or artifically-induced side effect (transplants - bone marrow and some organs). My personal canon (until other evidence) is that biologically, the reproduction could occur; but Spiritweb dissonance prevents the zygote from developing.

Correct on the Seeking, wrong on the Rioting/Soothing. More specifically, Bronze (in a normal situation) can't see into or out of a Coppercloud. Vin could Seek from inside one for the same reason she could pierce a Coppercloud. Rioting and Soothing definitely work through a coppercloud (just not on the Smoker themselves), as shown in TFE Ch 10: Not confirmed (and unlikely that it creates enough disparity). What is confirmed is that Duralumin/Nicrosil enhanced Bronze can pierce a cloud. Not a factor as clouds don't prevent Zinc or Brass - only the Smoker is immune. The only ability inhibited by Copper is Bronze, and only if the Seeker can't pierce a cloud. This needs a spoiler tag in the Mistborn Forum (only Cosmere Discussion is not limited to references for it's section) - so anything non-Mistborn needs a spoiler tag, or ask the Mods to move the thread to Cosmere Discussion where spoiler tags are only needed for new releases/preview material.

Interior art is also on the coppermind. If you start typing the name of the book (e. g. Words of Radiance) in the search box (top-right), don't immediately hit enter and you will see a list of subpages. Look for the Art page (e.g. Words of Radiance/Interior art) to jump directly there and avoid spoilers for books you have not yet read. If you plan to start with Mistborn, then I would probably recommend a rough order of: Speaking of, @BraXzy I also edited the section you quoted above. Very slight spoilers - up to you if you go back and look. Also, have you read the Words of Radiance Deleted Interlude?

No worries - also I was in the midst up adding the TVTropes link and explanation when you replied (see above). If it is any consolation, you will see some of the characters you may be missing as you read these other works. If you recall in RoW Ch 13 when Shallan (Radiant) discusses Ialai's book with Mraize (see below), he mentions there are places the Ghostbloods want to export Stormlight. So, not everybody you met in Stormlight Archive books are actually native to Roshar. . . you wil see some of them in these stories from before they came to Roshar. Slight Spoiler:

Congratulations. Welcome to the Forums. Some hints and tricks, in case you find them useful: Reading Order Threads are available and may help - but you would probably be best served by deciding on which subject you are most curious to learn more about: The linked thread also discusses Spoiler considerations in chosing what to read next. Updates are on Sanderson's Website, but still on-track for next Fall as far as I know. Mistborn really introduces this topic and has the most on the subject outside of Stormlight Archive In the Coppermind (a name which will have more meaning after you read Mistborn), starting here. I also, sometimes, do a faux re-read on TVTropes (Way of Kings Tropes) where I will pick a book and read through the Moments of Awesome, Funny, Heartwarming and Tearjerker (not necessarily in that order) to remind me of the highlights from a given book. Example WoK Trope Highlight: By rereading the books and talking about them constantly on this forum. Also by Reading Words of Brandon on The Arcanum - but that's a mixed bag of spoilers. However, you can do neat things like select a topic and order it by "oldest first" and only read the Q&A answers from before the time you are avoiding. For example, that link is the Dalinar hashtag - so if you order it oldest first you'll start by only seeing questions from The Way of Kings. . .