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@Kaymyth happy birthday! On unrelated note: how do you call sufficiently advanced magic?

I think it would be the best if she does her conquest and Tyrion goes Kingslayer. Which means Jon takes the throne.

I mean, the finale of season two made me believe he really does have feelings. (The "Hurt" by Nine Inch Nails was a big influence) Then episode one of season three sh*tted on that. Then I realized that a genius like Rick has at least three layers to anything he does. I rewatched those two episodes. I think he really did get emotional then and did that out of feelings for his family and not only cold calculation but he also had already had the plan to bring down Galactic Federation and get his daughter out of that unhealthy relationship at once (later reinforced by the episode five of season three). As seen in the Vindicators episode, he *does* care for Morty. He does care for his loved ones. He just makes *extra* sure he does not show it.

Okay, now I'm officialy up to speed. ---- Rick: a heartless bastard or a jerk with a heart of gold? Discuss. I believe the latter.

@Mistrunner I'm sorry. It seems your teacher is one step away from being a conspiracy theoretist. I'm truly sorry.

If only... I would have a PhD by now.

Justice? What justice? What crime did Tarlys commit except obeying their vows? They swore an oath to the throne - which currently means Cersei - and if I recall correctly, Dany berated Varys for not being loyal to his previous masters. That's hipocritical. If anything, she started to listen less to Tyrion and now that Jon bend the knee and is not equal to her, she will eventually stop listening to him too.

I am not sold on that. Cultivation is more of positive change, while in reality things can not change or be destroyed. I proposed Cultivation + Ruin = Change and Cultivation + Ruin + Preservation = Existence. Adding Endowment into this this could be Creation.

Surge of Tension. And bloodlusty young Dalinar. And Aimians.

Definitely not. She could have given time Tarlys to think over switching sides which there was a chance they would if Tyrion had a chance to try to convince them; instead she have chosen to be bloodlust and burned them alive - and she completely ignored her Hand which is a very bad sign since Tyrion is the sanest and level headed she has. She is too impulsive and while she may even be a good leader and conquer the Seven Kingdoms, she'll be a terrible leader in times of peace.

You know there's a spreadsheet linked in the first post you're supposed to add your propositions in?

I'm pretty sure that one can be traced back to Greek mythology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius

I have once analysed the extent of the power of the Fullborns. You don't get much more broken than that. Enjoy the read, I hope you find it useful.

Also, where does the "grant human ability" comes from? I mean, does Sak see her own corpses and extends that ability to her human by showing him his corpses? And how come they're able to do that (bond humans) in the first place? Would non-bird be able to do that too?

Me too. I still don't know how you do it guys. Have you spiked Twi or something?

If only somebody has done this before... with a spreadsheet

It's Argent's WoB and he said (when asked "body focus or magic focus?"), I quote: And Khriss in WoK only used focus as in Body Focus. So that one is not about "magic focus" we talk about.

Aren't you perhaps mistaking this WoB for something else by accident? If you PM me, I can link you some WoBs you could find useful.

That's not what it says though: It seems heart have a few bindpoints, and like the rest of the bindpoints, different ones can be used to steal different things. We have seen to little of Hemalurgy - I don't know what that guy is refering to with that whole "heart seems to pick up universally". Honestly, I am not even sure the "four powers - one spike" is correct. That pewter spike stealing gold Feruchemy can even mean it can steal all 8 Feruchemical Physical powers.

.This is one I didn't want to go into because it gets back to the whole focus discussion. Anyway, Hemalurgy deals with stealing Investiture. Why wouldn't physical allomantic powers be coded in the "same kind" of Spiritweb that could be stolen by the steel spike? Just like the analogy you did with tin Feruchemy. The steel spike steals "physical Allomantic powers" which are four of, just like tin stores senses which we have about five of (traditionally recognized, that is). Bendalloy Feruchemy (however it works) stores both food and fluids which are also distinct things. Hell, nicrosil Feruchemy is way more vague than Hemalurgy! One metal stores *everything* Hemalurgy can steal! I wasn't saying you were wrong on this one. I was saying I wasn't sure what you meant; I just didn't understand the sentence you wrote and was asking for clarification. That's why "I didn't follow". The way I read it back then sounded like somehow the power granted change depending on where it was spiked in after charging it (while it's the other way around). ------ Yeah, focus is something that shapes or determines the power (I'm fond of radio channel frequency analogy). And the Surges... the Surges come to me as close second theory to spren. I mean, spren are basically a living pair of Surges, that's not a big jump. And Brandon has talked about how every Surge can be accessed/used in three different ways, so maybe it's the Surge that's the focus? But it behaves differently depending on how it's accessed (Surgebinding, Voidbinding or the "third system"). If you go with spren theory, the Honorblades can be seen as kind of artificial spren or even part of the "third system" we know fabrials are part of. If you go with Surges theory, then it's even simpler. Squires kind of bond their Radiant (we agree on that) so their bond to the spren is second-hand but it's not much of an argument against spren theory.

Well, when I go and tell people they're wrong, I make sure I know what I'm talking about, that's all. *rereads the whole thread* Could you point me to that post? I admit I'm a little getting lost in "who said what" thing and I may just not know which one you're refering to. I'm only rude and unhelpful when somebody tells me that I'm wrong, says he has evidence to prove it but when asked for it says he has not yet had time to research it. I'm not sure what you're about with the "answer right away" thing, I didn't call you out for not responding in time, did I? I'm not fighting anyone. But when somebody is being confrontational without showing evidence and I do the same in return and then he calls me out on not showing evidence, well... I do not take well to that kind of behavior. So, I'm sorry if any of my posts back then came out straight out rude. I was aiming for light sarcasm, tops. As for my previous post, I have nothing to apologize for. It is harsh in tone and was intended to be. @Extesian, thanks for that focus WoB, it's a pain in the chull to find it every time someone says the focus thing is but a theory. I'm gonna bookmark it good.

The feeling's mutual, pal. And that thing you pulled off here? Being rude and then saying "oh I don't want the discussion on the Shard go to being rude to each other"? That's top-level passive-agressive thing you have going on here. And this does contribute to discussion and does not dismiss anything we're saying offhandedly: Yeah. Nothing vaguely confrontational with calling what we say being only assumed... without even pointing out where we're wrong. Please tell us what is only assumed. Please tell us what "goes against what we see of Hemalurgy in practice and our understanding of how Realmatics works in general". How about you go and check for yourself before you say I'm wrong...? Once you realize that determination and warmth should had been switched you should see it clearly. Those "hybrid" traits you speak of are just a product of the Mistborn Adventure Game which we should not consider canon: Summing everything up, it's funny how you call out us being wrong without saying where or supporting evidence while talking about having lots of evidence... while getting basic stuff about Hemalurgy wrong (like the metals for kandra Blessings). As for the whole focus thing, we could keep going and going and going but this would distract from the actual discussion and would lead nowhere. ------------------------ Have you arrived at that conclusion yourself? If yes, that would be awesome since I have a theory like that and having you arrive at the same conclusion independently is nice.

@Darkness Ascendant I don't get the line about "spren coming for seconds or thirds". What do these "seconds or thirds" mean?

That's what I assume but I'm not sure whether my assumption is grounded...