Amanuensis
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I just wanted to fit in tbh
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If you're Village, what do we do tomorrow if TJ flips Village? Who do you think is an elim then? ED1T: (3) Xino: Mat, JNV, Thaid, (1) TUN: Aman, (1) TJ: Xino, Eh. @|TJ| @Orlok Tsubodai @The Unknown Novel could really use your thoughts I don't know how I feel about 3 of my town reads voting Xino rn =\ maybe it's just him but I don't get the stubborn "I'm voting TJ only" conviction + I'm surprised he didn't vote Orlok over Bort yesterday. Something isn't right here and I need more perspectives to work it out. TJ! What do you think about Xino tunneling you, as someone who spent most of the game tunneling Stick/Archer? Orlok! You caught Bort, so who do you think his partner is? TUN! You caught up with the game, right? How do you feel about the others / the game state? Is there anything you find unusual?
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Thaid
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Wait I'm dumb I thought yesterday was the 1st haha And chill we will
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Honestly I'm down for a chill game too Like I kinda went on an MU game binge the last couple weeks and I'm actually kind of tuckered out Let's just focus on having fun no overcommitment ED1T: I feel this so hard tho. I had a really bad week because of my Bipolar + my uncle that got diagnosed with terminal cancer 2 months ago went catatonic a couple days ago. My dad's taken it really badly and that's been deteriorating my headspace too (lots of extreme fear of death existential crap I'm dealing with rn) so yeah, I'm down for just a relaxing distraction. We're actually going to say our goodbyes to him in the hospital tomorrow so much like Striker I might not be super active D1, and idk how bad that's going to impact my current emotional state, so yeah
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Yeah we just make characters that fit within the cosmere (some people do worldhoppers, others just local magic users or whatever) or joke characters Striker decided to do a Dio Brando insert from JoJo so I ended up signing up as a Jotaro Joestar insert
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Oh and the lore isn't too necessary to know, but Elantris is actually one of my favorite Cosmere books despite being Brandon's first published work, so I highly recommend it
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Yay hi Shadow Look I recruited someone! And that was before I found out she was a Sanderfan so what're the odds! ED1T: Also couple things: We may do a lot of RP so that's a thing here, we like to make characters and tell stories along with the solving (though mostly it's just solving) We can't multipost in a row but we can edit new things into posts without removing anything like I'm doing right now There is no good ISO feature on this website sadly, so gotta either go through recent posts in a players profile or just reread past days @shadow1 just to make sure you see this edit Also @Kasimir could you maybe PM shadow a link to your games dead doc? That way she can get a look at how things operate from behind the scenes
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Yeah I just need to reread D1 again tbh but I hate backreading =\ ah well, we've got plenty of time so I'll def do it soon
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I didn't even notice Xino was defending Bort D1 o.o Okay so here are my goals before this day ends: Get @The Unknown Novel to give his thoughts on the game state because either he's Town and I'd rather not misyeet him or he's just a wolf and it'll become clear with activity Do a full dive of Xino's posts to figure out exactly why I felt his D1 was Towny and compare it to later days + examine his connections with Araris/Bort Suppress the worries that JNV is pocketing me hard right now and that the game isn't as completely solved as I currently believe (hope?) it is
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I think it's a possibility, yes I'm ramping up in the game now + whether I voted Bort or not, I'm a big part of the fact he was voted at all
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I'm deliberately saying I could be a Veteran to make the elims second guess their NK target now they're put into an IKYK situation where they have to decide if: - 1: I'm bluffing and they could kill me by attacking me or - 2: I'm actually a Veteran and if they attack me, nobody dies tomorrow, giving us an extra turn It's to ensure they're less certain about the game state
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From the SE Lexicon:
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Are you familiar with the term IKYKs?
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Stick, Xino and TJ are the only Elder claims right? TBH with the fact that Araris was an Elder himself, the existence of Village Elders is completely arbitrary (basically just regulars), so I don't think it's a point against TJ. There was a time when I thought there were no village elders at all and TJ claimed it to keep people from voting him, but Stick has proven that impossible, so yeah I don't see that as a valid reason to suspect him The lack of Veterans is notable, yes, but this game also began with a small roster and we've only had 6/14 flips. Possible that no Veterans exist in the game or they've just not been hit yet I will say that since I claimed Elderly Veteran on C1, in truth, I do not have both roles, and of the two I am not an Elder. I will neither confirm or deny that I'm a Veteran, however; the elim(s?) will need to attack me to find out
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We did indeed nail an elim @Orlok Tsubodai if you didn't just ruthlessly bus your teammate for the second game in a row, then I'd still like answers to my questions yesterday plz and ty My tiers after yesterday look something like this Thaid Orlok Mat TJ JNV TUN Xino I kinda think Stick and I were right and it's just @The Unknown Novel by PoE alone, but I'm lowkey hoping we're not in a last-elim-is-inactive scenario because I'd like the game to be more fun than that I've moved Xino down to my bottom tier because while I really liked his D1, I felt he's been almost a non-factor in the game recently despite voting nearly every cycle. I would have expected him to vote Orlok over Bort yesterday (hence Stick and I keeping those wagons close for as long as we did) but he just voted TJ and I find that hard to believe coming from someone partnered with Bort? It's basically the same thing that happened with Orlok on D1 in not voting for Araris or voting to save him, except this would be the second teammate lost, but maybe that's the point? It worked in Orlok's favor so possible Xino decided to try the same thing? Feels like a stretch to me but at this point, others just seem more town to me, so I have to reevaluate. @xinoehp512 do you still think TJ is an elim? JNV not voting at all is likewise notable but at the same time they have been trying much harder than everyone else to get me up to speed in PMs. So either they're doing a really good job of pocketing me or they're just a genuine villager and I need to stop doubting myself I guess The Unknown Novel for now. If anyone else has any theories I'd love to hear them because today is going to be super boring if we just settle on TUN =\
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Glad to hear it I hope you're feeling better too
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Could you do me a favor and make a tiered reads list like the one I did below? I need data :eyes: ED1T: Same request for everybody, if y'all don't mind ED2T: (3) Orlok: Stick, Aman, Bort, (3) Bort: Orlok, Thaidakar, Matrim, (1) Matrim: TJ, (1) TJ: Xino,
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Could you tell me about your reads on JNV and Xino?
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Stick Mat JNV Xino TJ Thaid TUN Orlok Bort Descending order for levels of trust atm. Tier 1: I personally don't think Araris was bussed on D1 so I don't care much for doubting those reads until a lylo situation. Tier 2: JNV, Xino, TJ feel Town to me for gut reasons and microreads with some individual caveats - would reevaluate soon but most likely only if we fail to find a wolf in the bottom 4 Tier 3: Pretty much zero content and no opinions; don't love the idea of yeeting them today but I'm having trouble believing the players above them are evil, so probably a last resort Tier 4: My best bet for the elims rn. I have reasons but I'm trying to figure out right now which of the two is more likely elim or if this is another QF59 situation. V/E or E/E? ED1T: I need these data points plz and ty <3
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(3) Orlok: Stick, Aman, Kas, Bort, (2) Bort: Orlok, Thaidakar, (1) Matrim: TJ, (1) TJ: Xino, Okay, so. Orlok and Bort are both in my PoE, so I'm happy with voting either rn. Matrim and TJ I'm leaning Town on so they're completely off the table for me. Thought experiment time! @Orlok Tsubodai Say that Bort gets yeeted and flips green tomorrow? Who is your next suspect? @Bort If Orlok gets yeeted instead and flips green, who is your next suspect? @|TJ| Same question regarding Mat; if green, who next? @xinoehp512 I bet you can guess what I'm asking you without even asking @The Unknown Novel Since we both were unable to participate in the early game, I'm most especially curious about your thoughts of current events?
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Gah, I'll admit, I'm so detached from the last couple days that I might not be remembering the D1 yeet clear enough, but my first read didn't seem much like a bus to me =\ I actually completely forgot that Orlok retracted a vote on Stick and didn't even vote Araris which I felt was Townie before. Even scratching out the Araris yeet, there's something I can't put my finger on about Orlok's entry today that's raised my hackles. I guess that it felt preplanned, or like he had some kind of agenda today? "Going to open with voting on X" with a few multiquotes and strong accusations just feels a little unnatural to me and suggests he knew what his next move was already, but I'll admit, it could just be the fact that it's a big change from Orlok's usual playstyle, given I'm used to the spreadsheet walls and lack of direct participation until late game, at which point I'm usually already dead The fact that Stick and Mat jumped on him immediately had felt good from my PoV initially because it validated the feelings I had even while not fully grasping the specific reasons? I don't know if I'm making sense right now but I'm not in a great position to do hardcore analysis or build any cases. At the very least, I promise to give everything a read-through again TJ, because there were a few posts of yours (especially D1) that I felt came from a Town mindset. I could point them out later if anyone wants me to but for now, I'm about to head to sleep. Either I'll find out that you're really onto something or figure out its just paranoia being paranoia, as paranoia likes to do. I really don't know right now =\ I do agree that Mat's vote post absolutely seems like a defense for Bort, which does concern me a little given that I'm not town reading Bort for my own reasons beyond Orlok's accusations. Even then, if bussing Araris was the plan, I don't know why Mat would do it and Bort wouldn't. Bleh. I'll look into timestamps and everything for the D1 votes and see if I can make sense of it like I was there; generally I'm better at reading ongoing interactions than looking back at old data. IIRC, I do remember speculating that Araris' partners were already voting on someone else or just not present when he accumulated votes to save him, which fits Bort well, but that'd mean that Mat was at least present to get the "send me" go ahead from Araris, and I have some doubts that Araris wouldn't want to see his own invented mechanic go through; especially being an elim Elder for all things lmao. (Wait, I just realized... KAS? DID YOU DO THAT ON PURPOSE? Hilarious if so xD) Regarding Stick, I really don't know if she'd be as proactive as she's been this game if she were elim. My most recent memory of her wolf play is MR56 and she was just kinda chill there and vibing, wasn't concerned with dying at all, whereas in this game she's been trying to rally people ever since she almost got yeeted. She feels more like AG8 Chartreuse Penguin to me, except she hit the ground running here. And tbh, a part of me likes that cause it reminds me of me when I'm Town At the very least, I'll do the best I can tomorrow. I'm actually a lil scared how no one has come to Orlok's defense or brought up another yeet option beyond Bort until you. So I guess there's a niggling doubt that you're paired with Orlok now, but I still find the Archer kill really odd. I feel like there's something I'm missing and it's going to make a lot more sense in retrospect, but atm my head is just spinning
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What are rules, Sule?
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Tbh I really don't know if TJ is elim after that NK and I was kinda leaning Town for him anyway. I actually thought Archer was the elim of the pair until now and I would have voted for him over Striker had I been able to get online yesterday Like, I'm waiting to see how TJ enters because healthy paranoia or whatever, but from what I've seen Archer and TJ have been going at it most of the game and it's so incredibly weird for TJ to kill Archer now when Archer was so close to getting voted out anyway. I'm having a lot of trouble grasping the elims path to victory, but if I had to guess, this was intended to frame TJ rather than exonerate him. Like, if TJ is elim, what's his game plan going into today after killing his tunnel? He would basically be forcing himself to start from the ground up and I don't get it? Unless he wanted to go back on Stick I guess, but what's the likelihood of anyone really joining him there? It's just so weird Tbh I also felt Xino has been radiating Towny energy this game. I also feel like JNV is Town for similar feelz reasons, though I am slightly afraid he pocketed me yesterday Idk mostly I'm just super lost but I'm HOPING PEOPLE WILL FIX THAT BY PMING ME Anyway yeah that my stream of conscious rn hope everyone is well
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Hah I actually edited the bold in But I love the Bernie meme so glad you didn't notice
