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    "Well if that doesn't prove a point, I'm not sure what will!" Lopen chuckled, earning a glare from the burly bodyguard while he brushed himself off. "I'm sure that bloke took note of it" he said in a hushed voice, still chuckling under his breath. "Anyways!" he said a little louder than needed, "I don't have any glaring needs at the moment, other than to finish off my drink, but I think I can manage that on my own" Lopen smiled and then downed what appeared to be practically the full contents of whatever type of drink he'd gotten. "Ahhh, that's real nice" he said as he set his cup down. "I figure friends should watch each others backs though, since a good friendship is beneficial to both parties, if you get my meaning" Lopen said as he winked.
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    HAHAHAHAHA! Obviously I can't tell you, 'cause it's a secretcode! Kynedath, I didn't quite get that last message. Sorry.
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    I have not actually, so I may be a little behind in understanding the rules. But it doesn't seem horribly complicated(though I suppose it does make for a lot of possibilities).
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    "lriahsxxfe" "pudyiwasxaevpim"
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    So! Really unique rules for this game. Still reading up on them actually, as I didn't have the time to fully read up and grasp exactly what we're doing. A few questions for the GM already though. 1. When choosing players to go on a "mission," is there a specific number required? Or is there some flexibility in how many players you can choose? 2. You don't have to go on the mission when you're chosen to pick a team, so does that mean that you can pick yourself to go if you want to? Anyways, I'm not sure how to approach the planning stage yet. There are benefits to being on the mission, but there are also some big drawbacks as well. Firstly, I would like to urge you all to go through the rules(especially the planning stage rules) very carefully, as I imagine it is going to be a very large topic of discussion, and many times players will forget something crucial in the rules that can cost the village dearly. So, planning. Sounds very interesting. I suspect there will be somewhere around 5 or 6 players going on each mission, but that's just a guess and might be a little high(or might be a little low, but I suspect it's around there because of the eliminators win condition). Right now, I'm thinking it will be important to have a variety of players on the mission each Cycle, as I imagine there is a good chance someone on the mission will die, so by having a wide variety of players(and by variety, I mean some more "experienced" players and some newer players), we will have some amount of protection from losing high priority targets(for example: Adavantos, Mailliw luckat etc. etc.) for the eliminators. Something that should also be brought to attention is that players who are on a mission cannot use their role that Night Turn(OR be targeted by roles/the eliminator kill). So it would be ideal if we could not put Hackers, Data Gathering or Medical Knowledge roles on the mission as that will allow them to use their abilties to uncover eliminators, discover False Trail lies, or protect players. However, this can't really be achieved unless the player choosing the players for the mission knows who has those roles, and I would advise against revealing you have those roles unless you have a fair amount of trust in that player, or have a plan to protect yourself in case they are an eliminator. What do you guys think? I'm not gonna place a vote yet. Edit: RP responding to Kynedath: Lopen went over to this "Dragonsight" and sat next to him at his table. "How about being friends?!" He said enthusiastically. "I'll buy you a drink. A guy could use a friend like you, though it'd probably be best if you didn't beat up our employers lackey's, else you might not be there when the time comes to do what needs to be done, if you get me." Cool character Kynedath. Sounds like a bad dude(and by bad I mean good of course! ).
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    Vote tally: polking(4): Kynedath, Elbereth, PK{2}, Lopen STINK(2): Water, polking Maill(1): Ripple Water(0): STINK, PK{1} Polking's death will shed light on Water's alignment, but he's almost dead already due to not using his code. Instead of lynching him, we could ask that he sacrifice himself by not using his code(again) this Cycle(that is, unless he had Mind Shield used on him and so only has to use his code once). That would free up the lynch for other suspects, though I'm not really sure who I specifically would target at this moment. @Hellscythe, I believe Ada mentioned that he wouldn't be very active around this time in blue text because of....RL stuff. Do you have one of those charts of everyone you do sometimes? I'd be interested in seeing that. Also, Shallan will die this Cycle if she doesn't get her code in. Her, polking and Stink have no more chances left. @Clanky, I think people are more willing to lynch polking because he's been inactive a couple Cycles, whereas Kynedath and Stink have both been participating in some way pretty much every Cycle. I think another reason for it is that Water has been under some suspicion for quite some time now, so for polking to announce his innocence by claiming Sori like that, players would like to confirm Water's alignment one way or another, and since multiple people have stated that killing Water is a bad idea, polking is the obvious choice. I personally have had a little bit of suspicion of Water for awhile now as well, so I suppose I'm fine with lynching polking to check on Water. This is subject to change though, if I find the time to do some thread analysis, and come up with a better lynch target, or if more information becomes available that is a better lead.
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    About protection! Since the eliminators can't kill any of the claimed Sori's without clearing another player, the players who would be cleared are really the only players they can target. The only reason I'm saying this is to ask that if anyone has a protection role/Aviar, please do not protect polking, Stink or Kynedath, as their deaths can actually be somewhat beneficial to us in clearing a player.
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    PK, lynching water isn't a good idea. It's either lynch polking, and then depending on his alignment, we'd know more about water(if polking is a Sori, we know water is good, but if polking is an eliminator, waters alignment will be under heavy scrutinizing), or trust that polking is telling the truth and believe that both water and polking are good. It's the same with you. We're not gonna lynch you, because you can be cleared by the death of one of your claimed Sori's, so by lynching you, we gain nothing if you're innocent(if you're evil, then we automatically lynch Stink and Kynedath).
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    Well, I guess I can just reveal my role, since it's not like there'a a ton of good roles to keep hidden. I'm Influential, and I moved Hellscythe's vote from SD to Elkanah. I wasn't really sure about either of them, but I was slightly more suspicious of Elkanah than SD, and the only way for me to get him lynched was to move a vote. If you want me to, I can tell you how many uses I got, but I'd rather keep it a secret so the eliminators don't have that information.
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    Darn it. Sorry guys, and sorry especially to Elkanah. Vote tally before: SilverDragon (3): Hellscythe, Mailliw, Elkanah Elkanah (3): Kynedath, Clanky, Lopen Mailliw(2): Ripple, SilverDragon Hellscythe(2): Stink, PK Vote tally after: SilverDragon (2): Mailliw, Elkanah Elkanah (4): Kynedath, Clanky, Lopen, Hellscythe (moved from SD) Mailliw (1): SilverDragon Hellscythe(3): Stink, PK, Ripple(moved from Mailliw) No votes(5): Ada, Shallan, polking, Elbereth, Water. Since there was no trader kill, either one of these players was attacked and protected by either the Hidden power or Mind Force, there was no attack(why would this happen?), or one of these players is the Trader who was sending in the kill and was Mind Forced and so their kill did not go through. I think that's all the options. I doubt they would attack Shallan or polking, since they're inactive, and I can't really see a reason for them to attack Elbereth or Water either, unless they gained information through their Aviar that would push them to attack one of them. So really, it seems like they attacked Adavantos(maybe again?). Not sure why they would do that, unless they thought he was bluffing and was gonna hold off on using his power this Cycle for some reason. Well, since it appears to be that way, I think I was wrong about him and he might actually be a trapper. I don't think I'll be able to be very active over the next 2 days because I have some family stuff to deal with right now. Sorry. Edit: "pudeoikvngox?"
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    I really don't think a tied lynch is gonna help us guys. Edit: Suspicions in case I die. Hellscythe: Not sure why, but I feel like his playstyle this game is slightly changed somehow. I feel like he's not as actively pursuing the eliminators as he usually is or something. Adavantos: I have to agree with Mailliw that his posts seem off. I also just have a hunch that the GM's may have given the Traders the "Hidden" role. Water: I have been a bit suspicious of him for awhile. Can't pinpoint why at the moment. Quieter this Cycle than the last 2 it seems like. Ripple: Gut suspicion on her. Not too much though. Elkanah: Quiet in the thread. Vote on SilverDragon was basically bandwagoning. Minor suspicions: Mailliw(gut), and Kynedath(pretty much gut). Minor trusts: PK(fairly large amount of trust actually), Stink(gut and his claim), Elbereth(some different things and gut), Clanky(mostly gut, but I feel like he's trying to help out). Nothing: Shallan, polking, SilverDragon(though sortaish trust for him because his posts sounded kinda good).
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    I'll admit it was a pretty baseless vote, but I didn't really have any firm suspicions at that point, and figured I'd just put a second vote on someone who I thought could use a little pressure. As for me questioning Maill, it wasn't that I thought the vote was unjustified, but rather that I wanted a little more from Maill, since he hasn't done all that much except say he's suspicious of someone and then vote for them, with no reasoning. I agree that Elkanah's vote was much more of a bandwagon vote than SilverDragon's. I'm also of the same opinion that sometimes words like "bandwagon" or "tunnel" are used much too often. Finally, I'm going to change my vote from SilverDragon to Elkanah. I just don't really understand his vote on SilverDragon, and I sorta feel like he's trying to protect either Maill or Hellscythe(or both I guess) by distancing the lynch just in case of vote manipulators. This vote does tie the lynch though. Vote tally: SilverDragon(3): Hellscythe, Mailliw, Elkanah Elkanah(3): Kynedath, Clanky, Lopen Hellscythe(2): Stink, PK Mailliw(2): Ripple, SilverDragon No votes(5): Adavantos(on himself, but should be cancelled by his Hidden role), Shallan(not active for 2nd Cycle in a row), polking(not active....again ), Water(voted and retracted on Ada), Elbereth(never voted?) If polking and Shallan don't get on and get their code in this Cycle, they will be in danger of death through non-code-using(basically inactivity). Also, if Stink didn't use his code twice this Cycle, he may die. I think he used it though, but I'm not sure. That's bad news(unless they're eliminators, which, I guess is possible, especially in polkings case(MR10 he was an eliminator and was inactive for most all of the game)).
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    His vote being gone was a mistake made by the GM's actually. It's there now if you'll look at the vote tally in this Cycle's writeup.
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    Mailliw, any reason for voting on SilverDragon other than saving yourself?
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    Okay, so it would be nice if we could have some more people participating in the lynch. Ripple and SilverDragon both have votes on them, but haven't done anything but respond to questions or comments pointed directly at them. Maybe they just don't feel like they have anything worth saying, but really, anything would be helpful. Gut suspicions. Idea's for roles. I mean, I guess that's basically all there is to talk about anyways. >> I'm actually thinking of changing my vote over to Ripple, because I saw her viewing the thread earlier, but she didn't post. I'm not gonna say you have to post every time you view the thread, but it's mostly that she hasn't posted at all this Cycle except to respond to votes on her. So she's been on frequently enough, but she hasn't tried to progress the discussion or the lynch. Edit: Forgot to say earlier. PM's people? Since Ada is Hiding this Cycle, you can't make a PM with him. Just a heads up.
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    Accidental upvote! Sorry! (Actually I just didn't see why there was a downvote on your post, so I was gonna even it out, but I must have upvoted it at the same time someone else did?!) Here's an updated vote tally: SilverDragon(2): Hellscythe, Lopen Hellscythe(1): Stink Ripple(1): Mailliw Elkanah(1): Kynedath Whoa Ada. Getting crazy with the edits there.
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    Analysis time! Here goes nothing. 1. Stink(claimed Sori) - I sorta believe his claim, therefore I trust him some. I'll stay paranoid of course, but it's more than I have for other players. Post review: Defends PK from Ada(backs up his claim that he knew PK was good a little). Says that Kynedath is good and that he is an eliminator(we should probably lynch him just for this ). Even though he was voting on himself and saying he would be fine getting lynched, he asks Kynedath to send him a PM for next Cycle(unless he thinks players with messenger Aviar can make PM's at any time they want, which isn't so. They have to request a PM, and it will be made the next Cycle.). Instead of killing himself, he says he would be fine with lynching Kynedath. Votes on Hellscythe, then Water for "sarcasm" in Hellscythe's case, and because Water complained about getting a hard code word. Mocks Mailliw's post about Ada's posts being "off." Again votes on Kynedath. 2. Mailliw(???) - Don't really know. Voted on phatt when they were tied on the lynch to save himself. Claimed to have been roleblocked by a beautiful Aviar on the first Cycle I believe? But someone stole his Aviar last Cycle supposedly. Last cycle voted on Water, but then removed it later on and voted on Ada claiming his posts seemed "off." This Cycle votes for Ripple rather than Ada, saying they're his top suspects. I'm guessing he's going after Ripple rather than Ada because unless there is good evidence, it's unlikely he'll get support enough to lynch Ada, especially since the general consensus was that it was most likely Ada who was attacked on C1 buy the Traders. To tell you the truth, I actually agree with him a little about both Ripple and Ada, though with the likelihood of Ada having been attacked, I'm inclined to think he's a trapper. 3. Shallan(???) - 2 posts on C1, none on C2. I can't tell either way with her. Maybe she'll decide to post soon. 4. Kynedath(claimed Sori) - similarly to Stink, I think he's telling the truth, so I trust him a little. Hasn't voted yet, which I will agree with Ada that that isn't a point in his favor. Kyn, the lynch is the foundation of the game. We need everyone to be actively participating. You said you like to gather information and have proof before you try to lynch someone. Well it's very hard to get actual proof in these games. It's C3. It would be nice to hear your opinions on players. 5. TheSilverDragon(???) - Hasn't given any opinions on anyone actually. Has sorta defended himself from votes twice, but hasn't participated in the lynch at all. In response to his last post, lurking isn't inherently eliminator material, but it can be an indication, and my post on you was just to try to make you post and see what you'd do with 2 votes on you. I don't really have any strong feelings about your reaction to said votes, but I will say that I find it suspicious that you have yet to vote on anyone or really try to find the eliminators in thread at all(I can't account for your role, or how you're using your Aviar though). 6. Hellscythe(???) - Talked a lot about codes and Aviar. Did say that he thought Arraenae was the most likely person to be a Trapper than any other players at one point very early on, but I'm not sure what he was basing that off of, and obviously he changed his mind. One thing he's done a couple times was mention what players codes could be(Ada's and Stink's on C1, and Water's on C2). It's possible he did that so it would seem like he's putting his ideas in the thread rather than in a doc. Also, when I asked him not to reveal codes(especially mine), he said he never intended to reveal codes and doesn't intend to reveal anymore, so I'm not sure what his intention was when he guessed at both Stink's and Ada's codes(or his intention for revealing Water's code for that matter). That's all for now. Can't really focus very good at the moment. I think I should make it clear that we're kind of in a hurry here. 15 players left. 3 trappers down, and no traders yet, likely making it either 11 trappers/4 traders left or 12/3. If it's 11/4, then we have a plus 7 margin. That's about 3 or 4 mislynches before we lose(mostly it depends on how the protections go, AND that's assuming the traders don't have a patji, which, even though there hasn't been multiple kills stated in the write-ups, is still a possiblity in my mind). If it's 12/3, then it's a 9 player margin, meaning 4 or 5, or maybe even 6 mislynches(again, dependant on how well our protection roles go and if the traders have a patji). I feel like players don't usually realize the urgency and the importance that every single lynch should have. A lot of times when someone is voted on, they'll just defend themselves and that's all they'll do for the Cycle(for example, Ripple and SilverDragon this Cycle, though it's still fairly early in the Cycle, so it's excusable to some degree I suppose), but that doesn't really help us all that much. Our goal is to kill the eliminators, not survive to the end.
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    Sorry Arraenae. Ada, in your vote analysis on me, you say I didn't vote on C1, but I voted on Maill. I'll post more later when I have time to do analysis, but I'll put my vote on SilverDragon for now because supposedly he's lurking?
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    Ada, you were most likely attacked by the Traders(the simplest answer is usually the correct one and all that). Arraenae was most likely not. I disagreed with your opinions, just as I disagreed with Arraenae's. I never said that what you said wasn't suspicious. I just think you're more likely to be a trapper than her.(Also, how is jumping on someone and pouncing on someone any different? )
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    An alternative to lynching either Stink or Kynedath would be to ask for a Patji to attack one of them. That might be considered wasteful though, I don't know. I'm not really convinced that Arraenae is a Trader, but I don't really have a better lead at this point, so I'm gonna leave my vote there. I know I said I was gonna try to do some analysis on each player, but I'm too tired to do it right now. Sorry. I'll be sure to get some semblance of analysis up soon though(at least for some players), but I'm off to bed now, and most likely won't be on again for this Cycle. Vote tally: Arraenae(3): Hellscythe, Lopen, PK Stink(2): Water, Ripple Kynedath(2): Adavantos, Clanky Water(2): Stink, Mailliw Personally, I would be fine with either Arraenae(sorry Reckoner friend!) or Water(sorry new player!) getting lynched, as I have some small suspicion of both. I don't really think we should lynch Stink or Kynedath, as I'm not really suspicious of them much. Just my opinion though, and I know there's not really any solid proof they're not eliminators.
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    Nice job team! Can't really take any of the glory for this game since I died so early, but you guys did great! Thanks for GM'ing Meta! I look forward to the next AG.
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    A Sori with a messenger Aviar doesn't mean much. Unlike traditional Seekers, a Sori only knows the alignment of one other player, so just because Kyn claims to be a Sori and has a messenger Aviar doesn't mean he can be put into a mayor type of role. I can tell you that if Kyn made a PM with PK, he started with the messenger Aviar, rather than being given it or stealing it, because you can't use an Aviar that you don't have yet(Aviar transferring is last in the Order of Actions). If they are all eliminators, that was a very bold, but extremely risky move. Honestly, I agree with Hellscythe that this post is suspicious(at least that's what I understood from his vote on you and quoting those sentences). You seem to be trying to cast doubt on what has already been discussed, and the majority agrees that it's most likely at least PK is a trapper, so maybe you didn't like that people were trusting a couple trappers so early? Arraenae Not sure what you mean about the situation. I've never really been in that situation before, and I don't know how that would be handled. But regardless, it can't be handled like they're Seekers because they're not Seekers. They don't scan anyone. They don't pick whose alignment they want to know either, something I think Clanky said something about? I may have just misread his post, I'm not sure. Edit: Yeah, I was mis-remembering his post. He said "the odds of both Sori's mentor being chosen randomly are pretty steep" but we don't know it was randomly chosen. The GM's haven't told us how they distributed the roles.
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    We still have about 11 hours left in the Cycle. The lynch isn't set yet. I don't really have time to go through each player and what they've done right now, and so I'm not sure where I want to put my vote. The only problem I see with changing the lynch is that if we pick someone who's not going to be on again before rollover, they won't have a chance to defend themselves and the lynch probably won't be that informative. I'll be back in like 3 or 4 hours. I think I'll try to put some analysis up on each player when I get back, and maybe vote on someone. Anyone want to do a vote tally? I'm not really sure how the votes stack up right now.
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    I think that you being attacked by the eliminators as much as you have is a testament to how effective you can be, so I'd say just ignore people for the most part. Though as I said before, do it in the nicest way possible of accusing someone of being a murderous eliminator, since the game's just for fun. I think you'd probably lose money then. But for real, there's not much to say about that, and like you say, it's not concrete that you were the one attacked. It's possible that there's another Hidden player out there, and I would guess that there's 1 or 2 Mind Force Aviar out there as well. From the evidence we have, I'd say it is most likely you were the one attacked though, because the other players that could have been protected by Hidden or Mind Force aren't as high priority targets, imo(Kynedath, SilverDragon, Hellscythe, polking and Ripple are the other players who didn't have a vote last Cycle). @Hellscythe, could you not reveal players codes? (Especially not mine. Just saying. ) @Kynedath, I'm not sure how making #'s out of the troublemakers is gonna help any.
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    Guess I should respond to this part of your earlier post as well. Hmmm, seems to check out. It IS a possibility that you were roleblocked by Mind Force, and so were not able to send in the kill, but I don't know. Doesn't seem likely to me, since you're such a high profile player, you might have reasoned that you would be a target for Mind Force, and so would most likely advise one of your teammates to send in the kill instead of you. You might not have thought of that when you were planning though. All in all though, I would say that it's likely you were the one attacked(if you're telling the truth about your role), though it does kinda surprise me. Okay, so you're asking for Death Sight protection right? I figure that's what you want, since you commented about using your Aviar, and Mind Force blocks everything. Death Sight only protects from one attack though, so if the Traders have a Patji, you will still be vulnerable. Hadn't really thought of it that way. Still, it doesn't seem to be something insurmountable. 2 players defending 1 other player from the lynch isn't going to be game-breaking. As it is now, we can just ignore 1 player out of 17 living players for the lynch(Stink and Kynedath are still eligible, but I haven't seen anything from them that I think is lynch worthy yet). It's basically the same as a Seeker group, and there's been a few of those that haven't hurt the eliminators too bad(the AG for example, though I'm not sure if that's the best example since the village was weirdly inactive. I haven't played that many other games with trustworthy Seekers. ). I don't know that I'd call it tunneling if you're just following up on a suspicion. Though I do understand the feeling about making up reasons for someone to be guilty. I do it all the time. I could probably make a conspiracy theory about every living player.I honestly wish players would tunnel more. It makes for more discussion when players are accusing other players aggressively(you don't have to be rude when you're trying to kill someone, but that doesn't mean you should go soft on 'em either!). I still have a gut suspicion against Maill, and I have a suspicion about Ripple that I need to look into(but try not to tunnel on, because players love to tell other players that they're tunneling! ), and some suspicion on Water as well(but I don't remember why. Some other people pointed it out, and I kinda agreed that something he did was suspicious). I would vote on Ripple right now, but I feel like I should wait until I've actually gone back over things first, and decide if she's really the player I'm most suspicious of, and then if she is, actually try to give as much reasoning as possible. Edit: @Arraenae, I figured out Traitor-Trader in LG15/QF11.
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