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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
TheMightyLopen replied to Amanuensis's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Vote tally: Strawman(4): Mailliw, Orlok, DC(DeathClutch), Jerle Mailliw(2): Sart, PK DC(1): Clanky, Jerle Players at risk of a Fatal Wound from inactivity: LUNA and Anamaximder.- 311 replies
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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
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You think it's fair for Strawman to randomly vote on Mark for nothing, but it's not fair for someone to vote on Strawman, even though you say you think he's been acting shady? What reason could you have for protecting him? Teammates perhaps? Didn't strawman suggest only claiming having Greyscales to protect role info? So it's possible he has a Fatal Wound. If so, he's probably gonna die, since we know Sart has a Fatal Wound. Unless we're gonna let Sart die. Yeah, at this rate the game could be over in 4 or 5 Cycles really. I'm not sure if Sart has even been online since the game started. I think I'd like for him to get healed, since he's the only player that needs immediate attention. Strawman is currently up for the lynch, but I don't know if that will hold. He's the only other player that needs Healing, unless someone else who received a Fatal Wound just hasn't come forward. Edit: ninja'd by Jerle once again protecting Strawman.- 311 replies
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He never said she was drinking alcohol. About the mission. I think Shallan is really the one real inactive, since phatt and Hellscythe are online sometimes, they just haven't posted in a long time(which is sad really, because they're both pretty good players imo). So if you wanted to go with the "put an inactive on the mission along with 3 others to protect those 3" plan, then Shallan would be the one to pick to insure that no active players die from the mission. I wouldn't mind going on the mission.
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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
TheMightyLopen replied to Amanuensis's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Awesome. The only player who is in danger of receiving a Fatal Wound to inactivity is Sart now. Hopefully an Oldtown Acolyte can just heal him next Cycle. Like I said in the LG, I've got to go now, but I'll be back in a couple hours. Possibly before rollover, but I doubt it.- 311 replies
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I wasn't saying that casting suspicion on players is bad, but rather the choices of players you've gone after. I understand that just because we don't see eye-to-eye on things doesn't mean you are a Traitor, but in your own words, it's a potential tell. luckat - dead confirmed Loyal Lopen - I know I'm Loyal Anamax - you know BB - I feel like I could probably pick him out if he was a Traitor and his posts and my PM with him make me think he's Loyal, as I stated. Edit: I've got to go for now, but I should be back in a couple hours.
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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
TheMightyLopen replied to Amanuensis's topic in Sanderson Elimination
5 players haven't posted yet and might be in danger of receiving a Fatal Wound: Orlok(has been online though, so it's possible he's either sent in an Action or made a PM), Sart(hasn't been online in 3 days, so his future looks bleak ) LUNA(has not been online yet), Mark lV(has not been online yet) and Anamaximder(last online about an hour after the thread opened). So to those players: PLEASE POST OR DO SOMETHING!!! No one's really stood out to me yet, so I'll hold off on voting right now. GM questions though: Ada, what happens in the case of a tied lynch? Does a player need 2 or more votes on them to be lynched?- 311 replies
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I've already pretty much laid out my reasoning in my previous posts. It's a mixture of who he's tried to cast suspicion on(luckat, me, Anamax and now BB who I think is Loyal), and some small things that I've pointed out previously. His responses to me this Cycle didn't assuage my suspicions either, so my vote's on him. I understand that point of view, but it's not really necessary for him to do anything like that. I think he's still gonna be around some, since he's running the QF and he's joined the next LG. I'm not really sure though. Edit: One more thing I didn't think about until now(somehow, even though it's so obvious). Luckat was on missions on N2 and N3, so the only time she could have been scanned by a Data Gatherer was on N1.
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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
TheMightyLopen replied to Amanuensis's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Not a lot to talk about on Cycle 1, so I thought I'd do a role advice thingy as well, and see what you guys think. Ranger - The best result to get would be to catch a Traitor making a kill. Eliminators with the least useful roles send in the kills, so if you can pinpoint players who don't have great roles, that might work out. That's pretty much the only advice I can think of at the moment. Builder - At least for now, I think I'd suggest targeting yourself, so you don't roleblock information gathering roles, and will be available later on in the game to block kills(either though targeting who the Traitors are killing, or by roleblocking the Traitor who is sending in the kill). Steward - I'm not sure what advice to give for this role. You can confirm players roles that have claimed to you in a PM or in the thread. Oldtown Acolyte - I'm guessing that players that have Fatal wounds or Greyscale will probably claim in thread, since otherwise they'll die, so your targets will pretty much be chosen for you I guess. Red Priest - Like Clanky said, you should only revive a player who was killed by the Traitor kill I think. If a lynched player is revived, that could be detrimental, because we won't get their alignment, and so we won't get any information from that lynch. Giant-Blooded - I'm not sure advice can really be given for a passive role. Gold Cloak - Any advice directing a protection role to a certain player or groups of players given in the thread is basically pointless for a protection role. Skinchanger - This is a very interesting role. It's hard to give advice though, because it would most likely be used in specific situations. Like, if you wanted to move a vote for whatever reason, or you thought you might know who is sending in the Traitor kill. Greenseer - This is pretty awesome. I'd say just try to survive as long as possible so you can relay information from the Loyal players in the dead doc. Of course, it's possible that the Traitors could get this role, so we can't just automatically accept information from a Greenseer as the truth. A note to all the players who die as well: Be cautious giving out information that you learned while you were alive in the dead doc. If you blab about players roles, and the Traitors have a Greenseer, you could mess up any plans that some players set up or traps they laid out or get an important role killed. I would say most of what dead players should talk about would be who is a Traitor or not. Shadowbinder - Kill wisely I guess. Stoneman - This could be a useful way to put pressure on players, since it takes 2 Cycles for your victims to actually die. I don't think I'd suggest using it right away, but it's not as if you're killing someone that Cycle. I'm not sure if we can count on every single role being out there, but I'd guess Oldtown Acolyte would be one of the central ones, so I'd guess Ada gave us at least one. Warg - No advice on this one. If you get lynched, target the player you most suspect is an eliminator out of the group lynching you? I do have a question for the GM though: Ada, will a Warg attack a Stoneman if the Stoneman targets them? There's also the fact that there is an inactivity filter in this game, so, of course, stay active. PK, PM's aren't an action I don't think. Ada, is the PM you can send each Cycle considered an Action? If so, are players limited to one Action per Cycle? Since this IS role madness, I doubt the PM's count as an Action, but it's best to get clarification anyways.- 311 replies
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I'm putting my vote on Adavantos. Stink, could you explain why you are voting on me please?
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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
TheMightyLopen replied to Amanuensis's topic in Sanderson Elimination
Thanks so much. I can always use more character(and now I realize I never gave my character a name. To B. Determined is my name now. Okay. ) I remember you doing something similar in AG2. It's an interesting way to vote. I might try it sometime. I'll try to get a better post up in a bit. I'm a little busy at the moment, so no time to go through the rules again or anything. With Adavantos recent rule clarification about retracted votes, I'd suggest that vote tallies be often used, so that there will be no "mistakes" with lynches. I know I've often forgotten to green out my original vote when this rule is in effect(like MR10 I think it was).- 311 replies
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I still don't think your suspicion of her was warranted or justified. She was suggesting something as a tool. You could have chosen to give advice and warning to get your point across, but instead you seemed to cast doubt on her intentions. It's less about the "experience," and more about the fact that you are regarded as a high threat level player, who more often than not is attacked early on when you are a villager. Just because other players haven't been actively pursuing the Traitors doesn't mean you are exempt from suspicion about that. Anyways, you have given explanations, and so I'll not press the issue further. I never implied that there's only one Hacker. In your scenario, you say they would immediately be scanned by a Hacker and a Data Gatherer if they ever came out. Why would they come out? Seeker roles are very rarely widely known about, and getting a Hacker and a Data Gatherer to scan them at the same time might work, but someone would have to coordinate it, and there's no telling that that would be worked out. Mainly, my argument is that any role could be on either side. They could have a Data Gatherer, sure. I was just pointing out that the Traitor kills so far don't seem to suggest they have one. The one kill that I think might point to that would probably be luckat, because taking out PM's is usually somewhat of a priority for eliminators. But it was their 5th kill, and she's viewed as a dangerous player, so I'm not sure that means anything. I did think of Calamity as a possible reason for some of the inactivity. Sadly, 3 other people ordered it from my library before I was able to, so I'm stuck on a waiting list.
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Luckat being Loyal makes me slightly more suspicious of you because of your suspicion against her early on, which, even though you retracted it later, could be seen as you trying to undermine her voice in the thread by casting suspicion on her. Also, there's the fact that a lot of the experienced players have died, but you haven't. I understand that you might be busy, but I just don't think you've showed the enthusiasm that you usually have when you're trying to catch eliminators. You don't understand the logic behind it? There's always ways to use any role, for either side. Give the Traitors a Hacker and the Loyals a Data Gatherer, and then if the Traitor Hacker is scanned, the Data Gatherer will be like "well, it's a pointless role for the Traitors to have." It just adds the chance for an eliminator to do mind games. Even if the Traitor wasn't ever scanned, if they claimed Hacker, they would have to be wary of the possibility of Loyal Data Gatherers, and so, actually giving them a Hacker allows less risk in them claiming it. The last few kills have been on players with roles? That's hardly true. You yourself said that you doubted the Traitors scanned Mailliw(if they had a Data Gatherer), and Elbereth was Well-Connected(not a role they need to take out early at all). Luckat might have been the work of a Traitor Data Gatherer scan, and if they DO have False Trails(which isn't something we should assume, but it would make sense I think), then I think knocking out PM's is what they'd really like to do, because information roles for the village wouldn't be quite as useful as usual(but would still be very dangerous if they're False Trails role died).
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Player analysis(too lazy to type out a full analysis of each player, so basically it's just my thoughts on each player ). Hopefully this is useful. Stink - Has been consistently active. Revealed Arraenae as a Traitor and didn't kill the Hacker who claimed to him. He's been playing what I think is somewhat differently than normal, but I can't say it's made me very suspicious of him. I've talked with him a fair amount in PM's, and from that and his posts, I think he's Loyal. IF he's a Traitor, I'd look a little more closely at LUNA, because he revealed Arraenae when she was up for the lynch, so maybe he figured he'd save one of his teammates by lynching the one who had already been scanned as a Traitor. I do think he's Loyal though. Anamaximder - Basically as active as he usually is, which isn't very much. He did vote on Arraenae on the first Cycle, but that's actually been his only vote this entire time. That's kind of his style though, do a first Day vote, but then not participate much later on in terms of voting. From what I remember, later on in games he seems to latch on to someone else's argument and bandwagon alongside them. This game hasn't had much in terms of accusations and such, so maybe that's the reason for his lack of voting lately. Arraenae defended him from Clanky and Adavantos on Cycle 2, but I don't think that necessarily makes him a Traitor. All in all, I actually think he might be Loyal. Hellscythe - Has only posted in thread twice. The first was a poke vote on luckat and him saying he had some opinions for the mission but was gonna wait until the Night Turn(which he's never told anyone I don't think.). His next post didn't have a lot in it. He suggested keeping the same players on the mission as the first Night(Lopen, Hellscythe, Elkanah and STINK), and then he voted fro Stink asking for his reasoning for voting on Mailliw. While his inactivity is certainly disappointing, I don't think it necessarily points to him being a Traitor. In MR11, he had about the same amount of inactivity later on in the game, and he was village in that game. I've asked him about it and he told me(in blue text) that he had some real life stuff going on that stopped him from paying as much attention as usual. Not a lot to go on really, but from what little I've got, I'd guess Loyal. Kynedath - Was pretty active in the first Cycle, but his last post besides this Cycle's was about 11 days ago, during which he has consistently been online and even posting in other places(such as the QF13 sign-up thread). He's not only been very quiet in the thread, but in my PM with him as well. As was stated earlier, I asked him about his inactivity and he gave the excuse he mentioned earlier. Still, I can't understand why he would do that, or why, even if he was doing that, why not PM me? It wouldn't alert anyone besides me that he was actually active. His vote on Araris was his first as well, and he's dead. He changed it to Ada, but the reasoning he gave was pointed at Araris. The things he was accusing Araris of, Ada hasn't really done, which is why I asked him to elaborate, because he couldn't have been talking about Adavantos(he refers to Araris as "they" and I know he's familiar enough with Ada to know he's a guy, so I'm sure he was actually accusing Araris). He's one of my top suspicions at this point, and I'd very much like to hear what he thinks he's learned that can benefit the village from his period of inactivity. Shallan - Well this one is gonna be short. She's literally NEVER posted. The last time she was online was at the very beginning of Night 2. I've got to say, I'm not a fan of her basically being inactive in most of her games. Maybe she's been busy or gone somewhere in real life or something, I don't know. All we know about her is that she hasn't sent in any Actions the past 2 Nights at least, and I'd guess she didn't do anything on Night 2 either, since she was only on for like, the first 20 minutes of it. phattemer - On the first Cycle, he said he should be active for the first few Cycles, but that was his last post(except for once when he said "I missed that Cycle" at the very end of Day 2). He's been online occasionally, but he hasn't posted, voted or even looked at PM's that players have sent him(at least, he didn't look at mine or luckats). Also, as luckat mentioned, he's been online enough to avoid dying from missions, but has been silent. phattemer, what's going on? Ripple - Not a lot from her either. Mostly just off-topic things or RP. The only times she's ever really commented on anyone's alignment was Rae when she was up for the lynch, where Ripple said she thought her last post seemed village. If it had been a little earlier in the Cycle, I would say she might have been trying to stop Rae from being lynched, but that post was about 20 minutes before the Day ended, so I don't see much point for it from a Traitors perspective. Ripple later commented on Rae's white text(which said Rae scanned BB and LUNA as village), which, as luckat pointed out, could be she noticed it because she already knew about it, but it's possible she just noticed it herself. The white text is made to look like spacing, so it does make the post look a little odd. Since then, she's only posted about Elbereth and hers PM. I would say I'm suspicious of her because of her quietness, but it seems to be how she is somewhat. It would be nice if she would contribute more often with more opinions on players. My read on her: Neutral/Maybe Traitor. My PM with her has been very quiet, with most responses very short and not really telling alignment wise. Bridge Boy - Not a lot of posts. They are somewhat long, but a lot of them are mainly RP(which is cool, btw, not discouraging that at all). Mainly, I'd say any case against him would be that he hasn't give many opinions on players, or been very active(but that's true with quite a lot of players! ). He voted on LUNA, following my lead apparently, but when Stink revealed that Arraenae was a Traitor, he never moved his vote or anything. I believe he was online during the time after the reveal. BB, why didn't you vote on Arraenae after Stink revealed she'd been scanned as a Traitor? Also, do you have any suspicions? I'm not particularly suspicious of BB though, but would like to hear his opinions on things. It's the 5th Cycle, so I would think that's enough time to form some suspicions, even if they're not particularly strong(I'm having trouble getting any strong suspicions myself, since there hasn't been a whole lot of discussion in this game). In my PM with BB, I've gotten somewhat of a Loyal vibe from him in there, but still not a lot to go on. My gut tells me he's Loyal, but my gut is pretty much the worst, so yeah. Adavantos - I already did somewhat of my thoughts on him earlier in the game, and with luckat being found Loyal, my suspicion of him has really only grown. I feel like he hasn't been as active as he usually is when he's village, and he hasn't participated in the lynch hardly at all. He hasn't been particularly active in my PM with him either. Not sure if he's just busier than usual, but he is definitely one of my top suspicions. In response to your question, no Ada, I meant Hacker, not Data Gatherer. Clanky - He hasn't been as active as other games, but he actually did have an excuse(real life stuff), so I wouldn't hold that against him. He's voted for Anamaximder a couple times, which I don't think is very helpful in promoting discussion, because Anamax rarely responds even when voted upon. Last Day Turn, he voted on Araris for the font change in his post, but even when an explanation for that was presented, he didn't retract his vote. He gave some other reasons(not particularly great reasons, and one of the reasons was even false information that was pointed out by luckat, but he never responded to that part of luckat's post) for leaving his vote there. My PM with him has been pretty quiet. After looking over everything he's done, I'd say I'm a little suspicious of him, but he's fairly low on my list of suspicions. So basically Neutral/maybe a Traitor. SilverDragon - The last time he's posted was at the start of Day 3. He hasn't voted on anyone the whole game. I really can't tell with him. My PM with him hasn't really been very informative either, though we have talked a small amount. He's usually a quieter player(as seen in MR11, when he was a villager), so I don't know that his lack of participation is very condemning really. Based on my PM with him and his posts, I have a small gut feeling that he's Loyal, but it's not much. SilverDragon, any suspicions at this point? LUNA - Like Adavantos, I've been somewhat suspicious of her for awhile, and my points against her still stand. I don't have a lot else to say about her, because she hasn't posted a lot since our posts to each other earlier when she was up for the lynch. So, I'd put her as a "possibly a Traitor." So there you have it. I'd like to hear some responses before I place my vote I think. Anamaximder, did you do what I suggested in the last Night Turn? Please answer yes or no.
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Online times: 1. STINK - online right now 2. Anamaximder - last online about1 hour ago 3. Hellscythe - last online about 10 minutes ago(or he's still online right now) 4. Kynedath - last online about 30 minutes ago 5. Shallan - last online about 10 days ago 6. phattemer - last online about 8 hours ago 7. Ripple - last online about 1 hour ago 8. Bridge Boy - last online about 1 hour ago 9. Adavantos - last online about 8 hours ago 10. Lopen - online right now 11. Clanky - last online about 2 hours ago 12. SilverDragon - last online about 40 hours ago 13. LUNA - last online about 2 hours ago I'll make an actual post with stuff in it later. Here's basically what me and luckat talked about in my PM with her. This is a very shortened version, since we talked quite a bit. She didn't do a role trade with me. Then we talked about role claiming and codes for awhile. Next we talked about the mission a little(because it was my turn to pick). Then we talked about how inactivity is probably the worst thing in the world for awhile. We talked about how I was trying to keep track of online times to see if I could see any patterns or learn anything from that(I haven't really looked over all the times I've posted online times yet though, so nothing unusual to report on that), and we talked about some roles a little. That's about it really. We talked pretty in depth about each subject. I figure I should post what she was thinking about each player she talked about, so here they are: phatt: talked about how inactive he was, but that she noticed he hadn't been off for an entire Night, so maybe he was just checking in to get by the inactivity filter(missions, in this case). She said he didn't look at the PM she made, even though he got on during the Night. He's never looked at the PM I made with him either, and that was on the first Night. BB and Ripple: She said both of them seem more like quiet types, but they've both made some useful comments during the game. She said her gut instinct was a little suspicious of Ripple for her comments relating to Rae, but then said that she thought she might be Loyal with her last posts(I think she was referring to the one where Ripple c/p'd her PM with Elbereth). Kynedath: I told her that I'd talked to him about his inactivity/lurking and he told me that he was doing a "social experiment." (I was just ninja'd by Stink and Kynedath.) Anyways, like Kyne said, she's said it was pretty upsetting that he wasn't talking and that we should probably lynch him next. That's pretty much it. We were talking about inactivity for most of the last Night Turn. Stink, I personally think they do, yes. Kynedath, Araris was lynched last Cycle actually. He was Loyal.
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Quick Fix Game 13: Winter is Coming
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Welcome new players! ThatTinyStrawMan, you can change your profile pic if you go on your profile and then hover over your profile pic and click on the "change" button that appears when you hover over it. I think you can go to "edit my profile" and change it there too if you want. The image might have to be a certain size though.- 311 replies
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I would actually be okay with lynching Araris, and may switch my vote to him. Basically for things I've noted in my other posts about him this Cycle(his lack of explanation for his vote on SilverDragon and the lack of explanation for his vote on LUNA, as well as his post that I find odd that I've mentioned earlier), and because I'm not very suspicious of LUNA. I'd like to hear what Araris has to say about all of this, so if I do change my vote, it will probably be a couple hours before the Day ends. Figured I should give a heads up right now though, since I'm going to bed at the moment(hopefully I don't oversleep and will actually get on again this Turn ).
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Review findings from Araris' posts/PM. His first post with content he volunteers for missions, stating he doesn't mind if he dies early(suggesting that he CAN die from missions). On N2, he claimed he was a little suspicious of Mailliw(then Mailliw died that Night). Also states he appreciates Stink being more serious, and says he thinks luckat's more active than he remembered her being, but saying that's good rather than suspicious, but he just wanted to say it was a little inconsistent than he remembered. His next post he suggests putting Anamax on missions instead of lynching him, since it will force him to contribute somehow at least. Then he votes on LUNA saying it's not a bad lynch for us to make and that it would give us info about himself. Says he wants to wait for Rae to respond before doing anything. Votes on Rae because of her response. Responds to me about the vote change made last Cycle, and says it might have been someone just trying to prove themselves. This next post I find somewhat confusing actually. He again responds to me about the vote change agreeing with me about it. He also suggests that if they WERE an eliminator, that Stink's Hacker might be an eliminator(he doesn't say this exactly, but it's implied. In this scenario, the vote changer is an eliminator, and changes a vote to Stink to try and kill him to hide the information he knows? But the only way the eliminators know he has that information is because the "Hacker" told him, so he implies that 1. Stinks "Hacker" is an eliminator, 2. that Hacker told Stink that Arraenae is an eliminator, then 3. that Hacker told their vote changer eliminator buddy to move a vote on him to, um, make him get lynched? To hide the information the eliminator just told him? I'm somewhat confused. Our PM doesn't have anything noteworthy. I've actually got to go right this minute, but I think that one post is certainly interesting and I'd like to hear what exactly he was trying to say with it. Edit: Here's the post I'm referring to: "You know, that is a good point. When you said that, I was lazy and didn't actually look up at the vote tally. That makes me think what you said, about a player sending in an order earlier and not getting back on, is more likely to be true. And them being an eliminator might make sense if they were aware STINK might be going to reveal something like what he did." -Araris last Night Turn responding to me. I just copied it over, so that's a direct quote.
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This is the least amount of voting I have ever seen when there's still this many players alive. The whole game really. The only players we've ever put under any real amount of pressure from the lynch is LUNA last Cycle and Anamaximder on the 2nd Cycle with 2 votes. Araris has 2 votes on him now for no reasoning from Stink(I ask about this down below) and because his font changed in the middle of his post from Clanky. On mobile(or at least on my Nintendo 3ds internet, which is kinda mobile, but kinda just wacky so I don't know), the font changes in the middle of the post as well, so I'm not sure what's up with that. I also don't know why he picked SilverDragon for the player he wants to Contribution Crusade on out of all the lots of players who are lurking/inactive. Araris, could you explain why you're going after SilverDragon specifically? So you think Araris was trying to save or at least draw attention away from Arraenae(because you voted on her), by voting on and extending the vote gap to lynch LUNA? I will agree that he didn't really give any reasoning for his vote on LUNA. Araris did vote on Arraenae. He has previously voted on his teammates before when he was an eliminator though(LG15 he voted on BB on Day 1, and then later pushed for a kill role(Mistborn in that game) to kill his inactive teammate(The Cow)), so I figure he'd probably have done that even if he was a Traitor. I'll review his posts and my PM with him(it's pretty short since he's previously told me he doesn't like PM's much), and decide if I want to add my vote or if I want to place it somewhere else entirely. Ada, you ninja'd me. In QF12, her and Kipper decided to go after each other in the thread to try and get one of them into a trust position(eventually Arraenae got lynched and Kipper did get a little trust out of it). I don't remember interacting with her very much at all in that game, as I was pretty quiet for a lot of the game. Are the docs from that game not posted? I know that phatt never posted the end thingy, but I thought he posted the docs, so you could read how it all went down if you have the time. I don't think our other teammate(Mystique Kamyle) interacted with her much either. I don't think I could really say what her tendencies are, since it was only one game. I thought SilverDragon was one of your top suspects Ada? I think this post answers your question about how I feel about the votes placed so far.
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So I read over all of Arraenae's posts. Here's some of it: D1 votes: Ripple(RP reasons: retracted), BB(she didn't like his reasons for voting on Kynedath). She also somewhat called out Kynedath and LUNA. D2 votes: Clanky(because he voted on Anamax). Also calls out Ada for his vote on Anamax. D3 votes: Ada(her reasons were 'gut and his reasoning for voting on Anamax: retracted because Stinks reveal), Stink(obvious reasons). She also had stated suspicion of Stink for his voting(because he didn't give reasoning even though he's 'Serious!Stink.') Anamaximder voted on her on D1 for her 'fast attack' on Ripple. Stink was suspicious of her supposedly before he heard from the Hacker about her Traitorness. I personally don't think Anamaximder would vote on a teammate on D1 like that. I mean, it's certainly possible, but I don't feel that he would do that. I'm on mobile right now, so I can't do any gigantic posts or anything. But I'm still suspicious of both LUNA and Adavantos. There's also quite a few players that haven't said much of anything lately that I am wondering about, such as Hellscythe, Kynedath, SilverDragon, Elkanah, phattemer and some others who've posted some, but there's not much content in their posts. I'm just gonna go with my gut here. My suspicion agianst LUNA wasn't really changed much by her defense, and I just think she might be a Traitor.
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I figure I'll do this at the beginning of every Day, since it could prove useful. Players online during the Night Turn(since I didn't get on right when the Day thread went up, this might not be 100% accurate, but I figure it probably is): Stink - online Anamaximder - online Hellscythe - online Kynedath - online Shallan - NOT online phattemer - online Ripple - online Elkanah - the last time he was online was about 6 hours after the planning stage had begun Bridge Boy - online Adavantos - online Lopen - online LUNA - online Those on the mission: Araris - online Clanky - online luckat - online SilverDragon - online My PM with Elbereth was very similar to what Adavantos posted(except my end of it was fairly different of course). I'll put the relevant parts of it in here a little later though I guess.
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Woah, dang. Uhh, Araris, you're on the mission, so you're not supposed to be posting.
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