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    Ada, I can understand your concern about the dangers of using the cipher, as your arguments do have merit, and you bring up points that I hadn't really thought of. I would like to explain though that before luckat posted about the cipher, she asked me in our PM if I thought it was a good idea for her to spread the cipher around so more players could use it if they wanted to, and then she asked if she should just post explaining it, and I told her I thought it was a good idea so players could have that as a potential resource if they wanted/needed to use something like that. We even discussed that if only certain players were using them it would be obvious who we were talking to, so I suggested that maybe players could just ask yes or no questions, or something like that, with the codes, and then whoever was receiving the code could hide their response in their post somehow(I don't think it would be that difficult to get a "yes" or a "no" codeword in your post, since it could be anything really, from using one word a certain amount of times to mean "no" or using a certain phrase. It would be a lot easier to hide this kind of code than the codes from MR11, since those were selected by GM's, and were meant to be guessed at, so they weren't super easy like we could make them.). This way requires a small amount of prepping beforehand, but nothing major, since the question would be asked through the cipher(or, if players did use it like this, players could send one-way messages such as "I'm scanning Adavantos" and so it doesn't require a response, but the eliminators wouldn't know if it was a question or a statement, since they would know that no obvious response is coming). I got a little off track there, but the point I'm trying to make is that I suggested it was a good idea(and still think it was, since players can use it, even if they adapt it with another code like I suggested) that she should post about the cipher, so by casting suspicion on luckat for suggesting it, I feel like you're also casting suspicion on me(and I know I was only trying to help loyals with the cipher). Anyways, codes and stuff aside, there's not anyone I feel has done anything super suspicious, so I'm just gonna leave my vote on Araris(who hasn't responded even though he's been on since I voted for him???), and I may not be on again before the Cycle ends.
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    Just so you know, I edited my previous post. Ada, I think she didn't reveal it openly because she only gave it to me about an hour before you killed her, so she really didn't have a chance. We'd been discussing making a code of some kind so I could communicate with the players I PM'd, and so she made a pretty elaborate code specifically for us, and then also gave me the link to this cipher so I could use it with my other contacts.
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    I'd say there aren't a ton of opportunities where a code/cipher is necessary, but I think it can be useful in some ways. It's hard to give specific examples though, because it's hard to tell what will happen in these games. I was gonna try and set up a code that me, Kyne, PK, Water and Ada could use in MR11(the players who I at first thought were the good guys), to try and coordinate things without the eliminators knowing what was going on. I was gonna try and guess the traders(who I thought were the traders) codes and then spread them out so that we could each guess, and the eliminators wouldn't know who guessed their codes, so they wouldn't know who had their Aviar. I didn't go through with it, because Kynedath was the one who could've connected me to PK and Water, but it might have been helpful I think. I can't immediately see a bunch of uses for it at this point in the game, but if PM's go down, it could give a little bit of protection from the eliminators. Anyways, the fact remains that luckat suggested this code first in MR11, when she was village aligned, so I'm not sure how you think it's suspicious. Or do you not really think it's suspicious as much as just that you don't think it's a good idea? I'm not exactly sure, because you imply you're suspicious of her because of the cipher thing, and then at the end of your post you say you retract your suspicion of her, but that your opinion of the cipher still stands. LUNA, have you ever played any Mafia/Werewolves or anything like this before? I'm just curious. Edit: ninja'd by Orlok. Orlok, the cipher does take awhile to decode/encode, so I don't think it would be used as commonly as PM's can be used. So, I think what Adavantos is warning us about is that if players use this, the eliminators will know the two people using it are discussing something important/sensitive enough that they felt they should put it in code to hide it. I'm pretty sure luckat got approval from some Mods about using it already. I think Wilson said something about it in the MR11 dead doc. I don't see why Wyrm would mind really, codes are awesome. I think the only thing that's not allowed is using stuff that you didn't create to encode/decode messages, as that's not figuring it out for yourself or whatever. Luckat told me she made a thing that can encode/decode messages for herself, but that it's not allowed to share that with other people(similar to the situation with Dowanx' program that tracks activity in that he can use it and reveal the info, but he can't give the program to others since they didn't create it).
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    Do you mean if there's a majority of no votes, will there not be a lynch? (Just figured I should clarify your request for clarification. ) (I numbered things so I could more easily respond.) 1. Burnt contacted me. At first we were just talking about some LG16 stuff. Then we discussed about roles and she said she might roleclaim to me later once she had time to determine if I was evil or not. She said she thought that the first mission would succeed, since no Traitors would want suspicion on C2, and asked me what I thought. I agreed with her. After that, we started talking about Resistance and then it kinda spiraled into completely non-game related stuff for about 10 messages or so(as it usually does at some point with us ). 2 and 3. Bro, when have you not been suspicious of me early on? I did try to give out my idea's I'd had for the mission. I just didn't have a particularly good idea(and still don't) for how we should approach who we choose for the missions overall, and figured since others have actual experience with this type of mechanic, I'd listen to their opinions/advice and decide what I thought would be the best idea from that, since they would know better than me, imo. I haven't thought about it too much lately, since I was focusing on MR11 for the last little bit. I don't know how I could articulate any more than I did about a hunch. Ada, are you gonna vote on anyone? For that matter, what about a whole lot of players? I can understand not having a C1 lynch, but at some point we need to get going with the voting and the lynching and stuff. Here's a vote tally: Araris(1): Lopen{2} Anamaximder(1): Clanky Clanky(1): Arraenae STINK(1): Hellscythe Mailliw(0): STINK Orlok(0): Lopen{1} Whew! Compiling all SIX of those votes was so much work! Also, that's an interesting question about Traitors on the Mission. Wyrm, if a Traitor is selected to go on a mission, are they allowed to get on their doc and talk there during the mission? Edit: Oh yeah, and get well soon Elbereth!!
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    Why do you want to go on a mission so bad? It was so lonely. . . Edit: 2 hours between posts, and I'm typing 1 sentence...and I get ninja'd.
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    Good game traders. I'm sad we didn't even kill one of you! Kyn, don't worry about it! It's how the game is supposed to be played, and I think you mostly told the truth anyways. I actually thought you were good because Clanky was going after you the way he was for pretty much the entire game, and he was the player I was most sure about being an eliminator(then next was Elbereth, then Hellscythe, and SilverDragon because I thought he fit). I should've listened better to my gut about Adavantos, but frankly, my gut was totally horrible in this game. Sorry about that all you trappers I lynched(I think I was involved 4 mislynches?)! I am glad that I was finally right about Clanky and Elbereth though. I got the bonus victory!!! I'd much rather have actually won, but I'll take it! It was just me and my trusty Messenger(I never even named my Aviar! ). Funny thing is, no one ever tried to guess my code, and I only tried to guess one code(Shallans). Does anyone have a guess what mine was? I'm just curious. (I put it in this post. ) Thanks for running the game Twei and Eol!
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    To tell you the truth, I kinda think it's Adavantos, Clanky and Elbereth now. I guess we'll just have to see what happens, because honestly, I'm a bit lost at this point.
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    Vote tally: SilverDragon(4): Elbereth, Clanky, Hellscythe, Lopen Clanky(1): PK Lopen(1): Kynedath No-votes(3): Water, Adavantos, SilverDragon
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    Well I did a quick read through of the first Cycle, but nothing really stood out to me much. Anamaximder voted on Arraenae for voting on Ripple so fast(Rae voted on Ripple with the first post of the game). At that point, there isn't any reason to defend anyone unless you know they're on your team. Anamaximder has previously voted just to get things rolling, so that's a bit odd that he would vote for someone for that. Maybe it's nothing, I can't ever tell too good with him. I think I'll go through the player list and see if I can find someone who I think is trying to keep a low profile or something. I don't remember seeing Araris post anything for awhile now, so I'll send a vote his way. Araris, I've seen you online a couple times I think, and you didn't vote on Day 1. Orlok
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    Yeah, we need as many votes as possible. Especially yours, because you're confirmed.
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    I'll change my vote back to Clanky if we get 2 more votes that I think are gonna stay there and not get changed last minute(I'm looking at you Adavantos, Kynedath and Water. I still think you all are good guys, though the lack of posting has shaken that belief somewhat.). I was also thinking we should try and guess Hellscythe, Elbereth and SilverDragons codes so they can't use beautiful or Mind Force Aviar against us. So I'll work on figuring out those and post them on here. Edit: Elbereth did say she had hers stolen, but that might have been a lie.
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    I see. I thought you'd moved one of the votes. Hm. So since I did not use my ability, that means that there is two more Influential players out there. I didn't think you were evil until this Cycle. The only Aviar I have is a PM Aviar, so that's the only thing I could do. I kinda was surprised you announced that in the thread though. Darn it. Since it's pretty much confirmed that there's 2 Influential traders(and I'm not one), I think it's possible the traders only started out with 3 members. I just don't think that if SilverDragon was an eliminator, his teammates would be lynching him like this. At this point, I'm thinking that it's possible only Hellscythe, Clanky and Elbereth are the traders. Honestly, it would be nice if more players were getting involved, because at this point I'm not too optimistic about this lynch. Personally, I would like to lynch either Clanky or Hellscythe, but since I do think it's possible that SilverDragon is a trader and that this is some ploy, I will vote on him in a bit if it looks like there's no other choice(besides me dying, which I know will make us lose since I'm the one trapper Influential here with a use left). I'm afraid the traders are just gonna lynch me last minute, so I'll change a vote from me to SD as well. I'm not sure what's up with Kynedath and Adavantos. I thought you guys were trappers, but now you've disappeared. Maybe I was just completely wrong or something. You've both been on within the last couple hours, but haven't said a word. Of course, it's pretty much just been me, Elbereth and Clanky this whole Cycle, with even PK and Water not participating much. I don't know what to think at this point. Clanky, SilverDragon Figured I'd just do it now, what the heck.
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    I sent her a PM, which she viewed, but didn't respond to. I didn't claim anything to her(it was just an opening message).
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    I understand that. I just have a hunch that from what I know about you as a person, you might pick Burnt. It's just a hunch, and not one I feel very strongly about. I mostly just voted on you for the sake of voting. I usually try to give as much reasoning as I can for why I vote, so I tried to explain myself. Anyways, I've only said as much as I have about it because players have asked me to. I already said I'd most likely go through the first Cycle and see if I can find anything suspicious about anyone, so I'm probably gonna change my vote pretty soon. I was kind of wondering why no one was talking about the mission choice as well. There were a few volunteers who weren't put on the mission, and I'm not sure why the players who were chosen were chosen as I don't remember them saying much about it. I don't know how much attention we should draw to it though, if players were chosen for reasons that might not be wise to announce in the thread.
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    That's true. You have been suspicious of Kynedath for the whole game. PK, could you tell us if you moved any votes this past Cycle? I think it's important to say whether you used your ability or not. I assumed you did, because I know I didn't, but I guess it might have been two traders who did it. I didn't say it was impossible that they started with two, just unlikely, with the information we have. So far, we only know of 3 players who started with a Messenger Aviar. Since the eliminators have a doc, and the villagers only way to communicate is through PM's, I would naturally assume that the village would start out with more Messenger Aviar, so, 2 out of 3.
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    Sorry, I didn't word that exactly right. I think that you(Orlok), might decide to pick her(Burnt) out of the group of loyalists as your choice for a "random target that no one will get information about, or can connect to my team," type of thing.
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    Just because. I can reason it out in my brain, but it's tough to explain here. I think who gets killed can be indicative of who's an eliminator, even if players are trying to randomize who they kill a bit. I think Araris(he's played with her as an eliminator before), Mailliw(just because I think he might), Kynedath(she did good in LG16), Elbereth(I think she might pick Burnt as a random kill) and Orlok(I think he might decide to kill her randomly as well) might be possible players who would push to kill Burnt as eliminators, with Orlok as my main guess. It IS just a guess though, and I could be completely wrong.
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    I knew it. Let's lynch him!!! (For real though, I think you are one of the players most likely to suggest killing her, so that's why I'm voting on you.) I'll probably go through the first Cycle and see if I can scrounge up a reason or two to accuse someone later.
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    Sure, I guess that's kinda true. I still feel like you've been less involved in things though. Would you agree that it's likely that only one of Hellscythe, Kynedath and Me(Lopen) is a Trader? Because we all started with Messenger Aviar I think(I know me and Kynedath did at least, and I think it's pretty likely that Hellscythe did as well.). If that's the case, then me and Kyne couldn't both be traders(which Clanky is saying we are). So in Clanky's case, if he thinks I'm a trader, he should probably think that Adavantos is a trader as well, but that's not what he's saying. I think it's because Kynedath is under suspicion, so he's an easy target to say that you think he's a trader and not get any repercussions. I've already said I'll compromise in that I'll vote for any of 4 players(SD, Clanky, Hellscythe and Elbereth).
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    C'mon STINK! We did it! It was a success, aren't you happy? (Even though it was pretty boring.) Nooooooo! Why Burnt, you blasted Traitors?!? You jerks, I will make you pay. We were finally on the same side. Orlok, did you kill her?
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    ...I knew you were going to mention that. I didn't actually suspect you in LG15 y'know. You suspected ME that time, but I did suspect you quite a lot in MR10. Anyways, you shot up the list because 2 of my top suspects died(Mailliw and Ripple), and because I went through the whole thread yesterday for the first time in awhile and I got the impression that you were trying to not draw attention to yourself by posting often enough, but not really being a force in the lynch very much. I did also have some small suspicion of you for a couple things you said earlier in the game, but I didn't write them down, so I don't recall specifically what they were. If there were only 3 traders, I think I'd put you as the one most likely to be a trapper, but I do think there are 4 and that you're one of them. You and Clanky pushing to lynch SilverDragon kinda just makes me want to lynch Clanky even more now. Maybe Clanky has some good Aviar you don't want to lose? Or maybe he IS Influential, and you guys don't want to lose that? Edit: I still hold to my word that I'll vote on any of the players I listed before though.
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    Thanks. So, since I PM'd SilverDragon, you guys know I didn't use my Influential power. Obviously this could be set up so that I could "confirm" that I didn't use my power, but in that case both me and SD are traders, so I don't think it makes very much sense to lynch me at this point(add to that fact that it will most likely be the last Cycle if I'm lynched). As I said before, I'd be willing to lynch SilverDragon OR Clanky. 1. I didn't say that that one post was the only reason I was suspicious of you, SD and Hellscythe. I went through ALL of you guys' posts and I believe that you are all traders just because of the way you've avoided attention, and a couple small things that I think connects you guys. It's hard to get solid evidence against someone when they really haven't been a major voice in the thread. I gave a little more reasoning for my vote on SD in my analysis post you are referring to(and even linked to, so I would assume you read it). 2. I chose you OR SilverDragon as my targets(as I mention in my super long post), as I believe that the traders Infuential needs to die for us to be able to pull this off without any problems. I don't have two uses of vote manipulation left. Are you saying that the traders DO have two Infuential roles? Hmmm? So, splitting the votes IS bad. I will vote for either Clanky or SilverDragon(or Hellscythe and Elbereth if you guys think that's best). PK, Water, Kynedath and Adavantos, I believe you are all trappers, so I would please ask that you all vote on one of these players. I leave it up to you because I know I'm under suspicion at the moment(not under valid suspicion I don't think, but it's there nonetheless), and Kynedath and Adavantos KNOW that at least one of those players is a trader. PK and Water, please, go through things, my posts, the other players posts, everything! We can't afford to get this lynch wrong. I'm not exactly sure how the vote tally looks right now, but here's an approximation: Lopen(3): PK, Kynedath, Clanky Adavantos(1): Water Clanky(1): Lopen SilverDragon(1): Elbereth I'll be back soon.
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    Sorry for the double post. I just want to make absolutely sure you saw that I edited in a bunch of stuff to my last post, and I figure the earlier you see it, the better. I'm off for the night. Talk to you all tomorrow.
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    Wow, what a ending! You almost had it Mark! Good work Elbereth and Twei for getting the win, and good game to all the other loyalists as well(especially Meta for being so right! ). And thanks to Alv for GM'ing!
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    Another thing, if we kill all his teammates, he will have to either make the kill OR Hide. He cannot do both. So I think it's best if we wait to target him with the lynch. Adavantos I still need to look over things more, before I decide where to place my vote. Once again, a player list(it just helps me put things in perspective): 1. Lopen(Influential) 8. PK(Influential) 2. Adavantos(Hidden) 9. Water(???) 3. Hellscythe(???) 4. Elbereth(???) 5. SilverDragon(???) 6. Clanky(???) 7. Kynedath(Sori???) At least half of the players on the left are traders. I put myself there as well, since those players are the lynchable ones. My PM's: C2: Luckat(I asked to role trade with her, and she said no. She made a unique code that just me and her could use, and she also showed me the Vinegere code, so that I could keep in contact with the other players I PM'd.) C3: Kynedath(We both PM'd each other actually. We both claimed to each other with everything that we had at that point(him being a Sori, and having a Messenger Aviar and a Mind Shield Aviar, and I claimed Influential and Messenger Aviar). After that, we talked a bit about the players, but not a whole lot, because he was busy, and then finally I gave him the code. C4: I didn't PM anyone, because I changed a vote. C5: Mailliw(We traded information as well. Him claiming to be a Regular and having no Aviar, and me what I had. Later on, he asked me to help him avoid the lynch, because "I didn't want him dying to the lynch." I questioned him about that, but he didn't answer. He also told me that he lost his Mind Shield Aviar to Clanky because he guessed his code wrong, and that 2 people failed at guessing his code. He told me he couldn't get a read on Clanky either. At the end, I said I was suspicious of Ripple for her vote change and he said "yeah, that was weird to me too.") C6: I'll tell you all if you want me to I suppose. My Action did go through, so the other player I'm in a PM with can confirm I DID NOT change a vote this Cycle. Well, I guess it doesn't matter if I say. I PM'd SilverDragon. We haven't said much yet. I told him we'd need every player for the lynch and that I was hoping he was paying attention, and he said he kind of was, but that he had been busy and had gotten sick. A couple responses to Kynedath. First of all, I've only ever guessed one code and that was Shallans right after her code was announced in the write-up. I didn't get anything though. I don't remember you asking about my PM with Maill. You asked me who I PM'd last Cycle, but I didn't answer you partly because I forgot to and partly because I had already told you the previous Cycle that I was going to PM Maill the next Cycle. Here's all the info he gave me in our codes: I asked him what aviar he got from Elkanah. He told me "beutifliwasrobd" so, a Beautiful Aviar and that he got robbed? I assumed he meant that someone had stolen his Aviar, but his later messages made me think he was just upset that he got a beautiful Aviar, when Elkanah had a Death Sight one or something, I'm not sure. Kyn, what exactly did you mean when you said i was robd? Anyways, next I asked him about his PM with Hellscythe. He gave me this response "hsfegwithtwoavi" which I guess means "Hellscythe- feg(or he meant "reg" as in regular?)- two Aviar. Then his next message I couldn't understand. It was this one- "tnipumopidlfasp" which I translated as - "anylbmelpdbbhsf." So, yeah. Then he sent me a message saying what I had asked him, which was "wutupwithellpm" meaning what's up with hellscythe PM? I told him "thanks, I'll pm Maill now," since I hadn't been able to the Cycle before, which was when I originally intended to PM him. Last Cycle, I asked him who he PM'd, and he told me Water, and then asked who I PM'd(but I had just told him the Cycle before that I was gonna PM Maill, but I guess he may have taken that as meaning that I was going to send Maill a message, rather than actually start a PM with him). So that's it. The only info he gave me was what Aviar he got from Elkanah, what Hellscythe had, and who he PM'd last Cycle. I would've given him information, but I didn't have any until my PM with Maill, and at that point I was thinking about lynching him and was pretty suspicious of him. Now to respond to your post where you vote for me. I'm not sure what you mean when you say I was quick to accept you. I didn't give you any information except that I was Influential. I gave you a list of my suspects/trusts at one point, but I posted that in the thread a few hours later. So I've never really been that trusting of you. Also, if I would draw a ton of suspicion from voting on you because we've been communicating through code, why would I vote on you last Cycle, but not earlier? I don't see how it's any different really. I'm gonna try to do a complete game analysis on the 6 uncleared(to me) players left tonight sometime, since this may turn out to be the last Cycle. Edit: I'm going to be editing in my analysis, since no one has posted since this post and I don't want to double post. All I have to say at the moment is that I doubt that both Hellscythe and Kynedath are traders, because they both started with a Messenger Aviar I believe(as did I), and I very much doubt that the GM's would give the eliminators more PM's than the village. So with that logic, I would say that there's only one trader out of Lopen, Hellscythe and Kynedath. I'm not it by the way. Just thought you should know that. It is possible that Hellscythe didn't start with a Messenger Aviar though, but rather he stole it. So, Hellscythe, did you start with a PM Aviar or did you get it through other means? Anyways, on to analyzing. Well, I hurried through things, and my suspicions at this point is that Hellscythe, Clanky, SilverDragon and Elbereth are the Traders. I can't really explain too well why exactly I feel that way. I'll try to a little bit though. First of all, SilverDragon has basically been lurking throughout the game, except when he was up for the lynch. He hasn't participated in lynches or really done much in terms of accusations of players at all. So, lurking. Next, Elbereth. Similarly to SilverDragon, she has not made very many lynch-affecting votes. She's done analysis and quite a lot of RP(which is what her character is, so understandable), but like I said earlier, she did a long post, but then didn't vote. She claims to have "forgotten," which I suppose could be the case, but I'm not so sure. I don't really have much evidence against her, but I don't really have much for her either. I feel like she's been avoiding drawing attention to herself. I will finish this in a bit. Okay, here goes. I had some RL stuff to take care of. Clanky. Frankly, I don't have a lot on Clanky, but reading through the whole game, I feel like he's connected with Hellscythe in his motives and if you'll go back through his posts, you'll find he doesn't ever cast suspicion on any of SilverDragon(the opposite actually, since he voted on Elkanah for his vote on SilverDragon, and was seemingly against SilverDragons lynch), Elbereth or Hellscythe in any way. Really, the only times he's aggressively gone after someone for the lynch was for Kynedath(on C2 I believe, and then last Cycle as well) and on Elkanah(for bandwagoning on SD, offering a different lynch candidate instead of SD). Hellscythe. Like I've said, I believe he's the main reason that as many codes have been guessed as there's been. Again, like I've said before, I feel like he hasn't been as actively pursuing the eliminators as he usually is. He has stated that he might not be as active as usual because of RL stuff(posted in blue text, so it's the truth). I still think that he's been holding back though, letting the village kill each other. If you go back, you'll notice that he's voted on SilverDragon and Elbereth and left his vote there. So you'd think that if they're eliminators, he wouldn't be. However, I think he's shown a good enough ability to catch eliminators that he might feel he should vote on one or two of his teammates to maybe clear himself a bit. In SilverDragons case, I saw him viewing the thread later on when the votes were close, but he never said anything. Personally, I think it's because Clanky was trying to save SilverDragon, and whatever response Hellscythe gave at that point might have undermined his argument or cast suspicion on him later if he'd moved his vote. With his vote on Elbereth, he voted on her early on in the Cycle, but never pursued that suspicion for the rest of the Cycle, or even commented on the other candidates. So there you have it. That's my conclusion. I will be voting on Clanky. I believe he may be Influential. Hellscythe has 2 Aviar(at least) and so does Elbereth(at least), so I imagine the trader Influential is either Clanky or SilverDragon. I would lynch either of them. I actually think they both might be Influential. I believe the traders have 2 Regulars and 2 Influentials. I did do analysis on Adavantos and Kynedath as well, and while I had my suspicions against them for awhile there, I believe they are both trappers. Adavantos: I think he may have been attacked at least once out of the two times there was no trader kill(C1 and C3). That shouldn't completely clear him I suppose, since it could be a WGG, but I highly doubt they would try that, since it would be pretty difficult to pull off, and why do it? There wasn't a ton of players in this game, so I don't think this would make a very good situation to try and pull it off. Also, with the way the roles seem to be distibuted, I think his role makes the most sense for a trapper. I believe the trappers had 1 Patji, 1 Skilled, 3(two of which had the same Mentor, so that it wasn't unbalanced against the traders) Sori's, 3 Regulars, 3 Influential, 1 Hidden and Water(who is a Regular I think?). While I wasn't a big fan of how Ada worded some things early on(I don't recall specific examples though), I don't think he's a trader. Kynedath: I feel like the traders left him alive because they figured they could get him lynched by the village at some point(which almost happened). They really didn't have much reason to kill him in my eyes. He's been under suspicion(heavily from Adavantos, and the traders killed STINK) for some time now. I also think that's the reason Adavantos is still alive. So that he can push for Kynedath's lynch. Like I've said multiple times, I DO NOT think it was a coincidence that he and STINK had the same Mentor(PK). It makes a lot more sense to me that the GM's made it that way for balance issues(having 3 Sori's with 3 separate Mentors would make too many cleared players in case the Sori's died and the Mentors didn't). Looking back through his posts, I don't really see much reason for suspicion. Most of my suspicion towards him was because of my PM with him, in which I felt like he was too trusting of me. Now I just think he trusted me because I defended him from the lynch on C2(I think it was C2). So, here's how I think it looks: TRAPPERS: TRADERS: 1. Lopen(Influential-1 use) 6. Hellscythe(Regular) 2. PK(Infulential-0 uses) 7. Elbereth(Regular) 3. Water(Regular) 8. Clanky(Influential-1 use) 4. Adavantos(Hidden) 9. SilverDragon(Influential-1use) 5. Kynedath(Sori) With these numbers, it might be a bit difficult to pull off the win actually. I'll most likely use my ability, but really, we need as many votes as we can get, PLEASE!!! I know I've been involved in some mislynches, but I've been doing my best each and every Cycle. I've done everything I can to help out. I am going to try and steal some trader Aviar now. I don't care about my Messenger Aviar anymore, and I think we need to make sure they don't have any Mind Force Aviar(capable of cancelling a vote in this case). So if you don't have any Mind Force, Death Sight, or Beautiful Aviar, I suggest you try to steal either Hellscythe or Elbereth's Aviar. Kynedath, I would like to make another Vigenere code with you so we can coordinate your Aviar use. I suggest going through both mine and PK's PM's with you and picking out a word that was used in both PM's and then making that the keyword, if that's not too much trouble. I figure it would be best to have PK in on our plan as well. Actually, you could add Water to it too, since you had a PM with him. I will PM Adavantos this Cycle, so that he will be aware of things as well(though it might not go through if he's Hiding), unless you guys don't trust him enough for that. I just think that we really, really need to work together at this point as much as possible. Well, that was probably the longest post ever. I won't do a TL;DR since I want you all to read all of it. (And I'm too tired.) Any questions? I will answer just as fast as I can.
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