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I do have to apologize again about my initial "vote" being unhelpful, but it should be noted that I was very tired and hadn't been able to piece anything together, and in fact haven't been able to really read through everything analytically yet either. There's been a lot of discussion about the poke votes and bandwagons, interspersed with some genuine attempts at advice, which does make me genuinely suspicious because I've seen it used as a tactic to gain trust, but because I know it also can be genuine, I don't discourage it or use it as an automatic reason to vote on someone either. I will say that it's important for the town (Nobles) in this game to remember that while Ruin is normally the bad guy, in this case he's on the same side as the town. He needs to kill the Skaa, with only one additional kill (theoretically, although I guess Preservation's Vessel could be a Skaa too?), so if we find Ruin, we should actually protect and assist him (or her, I was just using the male pronoun because Ruin was male in the books). Preservation is also a benefit to the town potentially too, however, so Ruin, if you find Preservation, consider leaving them alive until they can help the get rid of the Skaa. Since they won't die to anyone else, there's no need to hurry up and kill them if you figure out who they are. Preservation, obviously you'll want to avoid that so you can survive the game, so keep your role secret, but make sure you give abilities to players you're reasonably sure are Noble. Everyone else, either listen to the advice others have given, or just go ahead and follow your instincts or your own logic. Oh, and if you are a kandra and create PMs (please do) or if you receive one from a kandra, don't reveal that in the main thread (taking out communication will be very beneficial for the Skaa), but do take note of it so you can reveal who the kandra was if they die, and who they were suspicious of if they revealed it. I still don't exactly suspect phatt or the others up for the lynch so far, but I'll reread the thread and see what I can figure out. EDIT: I wanted to respond to this too and forgot: Joe, the advantage is that sometimes we can use that to sort through how many of the people we haven't (at least to ourselves) soft-cleared, and then use the likely number of remaining elims to basically place odds on each person being one. Nothing in this game is a hard science of course, but I found that very helpful several times.

Aman, I totally missed that I messed up with the original "vote" on Drought; I was on mobile and forgot to add the red tags. I don't like phattemer's initial statement, but he has a point with bandwagons, and I don't want to form one now without a decent reason. I do like having suggestions offered for various roles, but it sets off alarms in my head every time. That's probably because I've seen it used to gain trust with the village (in fact, I think Elenion did that once before, though I may be mixing it up with someone else's post), but of course it can also be a genuine villager trying to help. I'm not going to drop a vote on Elenion for a post like that, but I will be watching him.

Remart stomped into the pub and winced at the sound of the Mariachi band that was playing. They were pretty good as far as those types of bands went; he just couldn't stand the style of music. By the time he sat down and ordered an ale and a whole roast duck, however, they'd stopped eating. Anyone that had known Remart before would have hardly recognized him now. He'd disappeared for a while, and had almost no memory of his time away (just a fuzzy recollection of...cats? Ale?), but he's returned nearly 200 pounds lighter, and had managed to keep his weight to a healthy 160 pounds. He looked fit, not muscled or toned, but healthy. No one could quite explain it, and he'd chosen not to reveal the secret so far. Inside of his metal peg leg, which had become synonymous with Remart's name, he had a new core made of a metal he'd learned was called bendalloy. Very few knew of its existence, and fewer knew what it did, but having discovered he was a Subsumer, able to store his food intake in a bendalloy metalmind, he'd had the extremely valuable core installed in his leg, and now he could eat as much as he liked, and his weight remained constant. Rusts, he never even felt full unless he wanted to, though it was such a good feeling he often chose to feel full. Even when he didn't have any food around. Which was handy. Okay, so I'm not a bendalloy ferring for the game itself, obviously, but it was such a tempting choice for Remart's character I had to do it. This is just a setup, but if anyone wants to approach, you'll get a gruff answer and some terse conversation.

Good point, @randuir. I've never played with Szeth, but I'm not too worried about Aman and Ecth.

I'm still waking up from a long night, but I just wanted to retract my vote on DroughtBringer, of course, since he responded. I will put thought into my next vote since I think just about everyone has posted now. That said, after the first couple rounds, I will absolutely encourage getting rid of inactives anytime we don't have a strong suspicion to go on. I've been seeing clearly how much inactivity hurts the game, not just the town or the Elims specifically. I'm all in favor of trying to minimize that by encouraging activity, but also bringing down the hammer on those who really don't contribute despite mentions and votes. Hopefully there won't be many, if any, of those this game, but I'm not holding my breath.

@DroughtBringer, I'll poke vote you in the name of the Contribution Crusade. Are you going to be active this game?

Glad you're feeling better! Keep this game a calm casual one.

Haha, I was thinking Michael Caine, but either would be good. I dunno, though, I don't feel like most of those are the general look (ethnicity) that I was imagining. The Emperor's Soul ones, yes, but the Elantris people it just mostly doesn't fit right. Domhnall Gleeson does seem like a Dilaf to me, though, although it would depend on how they decide to do the look of being twisted and hunched.

Wow, that's really interesting. I'm positing two ideas, then. First, I agree that the Ire were around before the Reod, and I think it was before the splintering of D&D as well (that would mean that AonDor, or at least the concept of Aons providing magical power, existed prior as well, which I'll explain more in a moment). I also think that they were not on Sel at the time of the splintering, but were off in the Cognitive Realm or on another world at the time, and thus were affected differently by the Reod. However, they still would have had some of the effects, and they managed to return through the CR, discovered the "storm" of the Dor that Odium had pressed into there, and figured out how to siphon off some of it in their pipeline to ward off the effects of the Reod, as it were. Secondly, we've been told that the regionalized magic of Sel is because of large splinters from Devotion and Dominion that have begun gaining sentience (I can't recall the exact WoB, but it's along those lines), and we've been assuming that the Aons are based on the geography of Arelon only since that time, or at least I've seen that posited. I think instead that AonDor (or rather, a similar form of magic using the Aons) existed prior to the splintering, set up by Aona or perhaps both Aona and Skai, and they taught the first Elantrians how to build the city as a power booster. When the splintering of D&D happened, though, the original Elantrians were killed or all left (those who left and survived becoming the Ire?), leaving the city abandoned and ready for the Arelish people to find eventually, and then turn some of them into Elantrians, but the Shaod and that current method of Initiation (becoming an Elantrian) is mostly caused and guided by a splinter of Devotion and/or Dominion (perhaps a combined splinter of both?) that has "landed" in Arelon in the Cognitive Realm, and has both bonded to the land and begun gaining sentience.

Maybe that will be the point.

Thorot grimaced as he watched the overly friendly woman step up to someone and try to start a cheerful conversation. Didn't she know this was a war? He'd keep an eye on her, to protect her from the cutthroats in the Ghostbloods, or to kill her if he found out she was part of the Sons of Honor. Wouldn't that be ironic? A woman as a Son of Honor. He knew better than to assume they wouldn't include a woman in their plans. The Ghostbloods certainly had many women among their members. He picked his teeth with one of his daggers (one that he hadn't poisoned), and faded more into the shadows of the doorway he was leaning in.

Good points in what I didn't quote, and I wanted to touch base here. I do think that a Shard is at least supporting the 17th Shard, and that that Shard is Enlightenment, which is also the Shard maintaining Silverlight, and which is not on a planet. I'm pretty sure Brandon confirmed that there is one additional Shard beyond the one just trying to hide and survive which is not on a planet.

They've probably learned to steer clear of Horneaters.

The other stories I've read so far from it. The first one wasn't bad, but the second made no sense and the third was just weird.

Picked up the Dangerous Women collection, which is where SfSitFoH is from, and so far it's...underwhelming.

Because Harmony keeps saying he doesn't want to interfere, probably. Despite meddling quite a bit.

Eh, as long as it wasn't Adolin, you're out of luck.

As Brandon put it, it's interference between the Allomantic genes and Feruchemical genes, which never happened before because of Rashek's breeding programs that didn't let any Terris blood mix with the rest of the Scadrians. Not exactly the natural form, just the one that you'll see most often now, unless a pure-blooded Terris shows up.

Relevant WoB From http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=632 (first question)

Yay, I got my Shards! I hope I didn't have to kill anyone too important to get them.

I did something a little like that with an RP character. Not healing wounds, but the same technique would work for that. Edit: this post has spoilers for Stormlight and maybe other books.

Actually, I think that's a remnant of the Terris bloodlines with some meddling by Sazed. He unlocked the possibility of Ferrings, basically, or else the mixing of bloodlines caused those abilities to manifest even in non-Twinborn (which seems less likely). There were never Ferrings before, after all.

The Inquisitors killed the Synod, all the known living Feruchemists, before the Catacentre, so it's entirely possible there were none at that point, and I don't believe we have confirmation that there are any Full Feruchemists in Era 2 (beyond apparently The Sovereign).