hoidhunter

If you were fortunate enough to find a tiny bit the the super rare lerasium to use as a feruchemal store...you probably wouldn't want to burn it unless you really had to.

So...what do we think Marsh's role is going to be as the stories continue. Good guy? Bad guy? From the scene at the very end of AoL...it seems like he is doing Harmony's bidding...or...at least perusing the same goals.

So where did the beads of lerasium come from? I realize that preservation wouldn't have siphoned off his own power systematically the way he did with Ruin...but these little bits of pure preservation essence have to have come from somewhere. Who put them in little clay pots at the well of ascension? Were there allomancers who were just born that way going back to the beginning of mankind on Scadrial...or were they the product of lerasium created allomancers having a long long time to dillute their genes?

Ruin ruins ruinous ruins with ruinousness as rusty rust rusts ruined ruins that Ruin had tried to rusticate with his ruinous and rusty ruinousness. 15....I think I could probably do better...

Aside from the fact that you have to be close to Elantris to use it well...I would say that AonDor seems like it has to be high on the list. As long as you know the write symbol to write in the air...it seems like you can accomplish anything from vaporizing a group of people...to instant transportation...healing the injured and dying...making food from thin air...flight...illusion...tornados of fire...enchanting objects.....................although........limiting yourself to using it inside of a few square miles kind of cuts down on it's versatility.

Thanks for the WoB luckat...(up vote)... I find it interesting that Brandon says "Piercings and Hemalurgy were part of the world befote the coming of Allomancy in its modern form." I had already made the assumption that Alendi having a Hemalurgic spike meant that allomancy was present in the world before Rashek's ascension. (before he gave the beads of lerasium to his supporters.) I wonder how it was different back then. Is there somewhere in the world that was producing lerasium beads the way the pits of hathsin produced atium?

Touche'...what about...use lightweaving to make the illusion of a bench in a park and then try to sit on it yourself? by the way...kobold king gets an upvote for xmas spirit...

I'm going on supposition here but follow me. Ruin and Preservation are opposites (obviously). The metal form of preservation grants you allomancy permanently and it's liquid form gives you incredible power that burns up quickly (and you don't have to be an allomancer to use it...ie Rashek). Ruin's metal form gives you power that burns up quickly (if you are already an allomancer)...does it stand to reason that being exposed to it's liquid form would grant you some power permanently? Also...I read in a few places on the forum that Alendi had a spike in him. The only thing that I have been able to find that suggests this is the log book entry below...but it doesn't seem definitive. Is there a WoB on this or something? I think I’ve finally discovered why Rashek resents me so very much. He does not believe that an outsider such as myself - a foreigner - could possibly be the Hero of Ages. He believes that I have somehow tricked the philosophers, that I wear the piercings of the Hero unjustly. Also...if we are operating on the assumption that Alendi was, in fact, spiked...do you think that Ruin made him stop Fedik from touching Ruin's shardpool? (see logbook entry below) The lake that Fedik discovered is below us now - I can see it from the ledge. It looks even more eerie from up here, with its glassy - almost metallic - sheen. I almost wish I had let him take a sample of its waters.

Every post in my thread gets an up vote!!! MERRY XMAS 17TH SHARD!!! FROM: hoidhunter

Question...if you are a durlumin compounder...can you super flash burn a LOT of connection in an instant? And what would that do?

My version...when your wife can't figure out what to get you for xmas because you're read all the currently released sanderson books.

Use and Atium + Duralumin burn JUST to shut down someone's proposed theory on 17th shard...

I suspected as much...but thanks a lot for the link. I was REALLY wondering why it never came back around in the story. not that you needs it...but...up vote moogle...

I understand this to be true. My last post was trying to muddle out the differences between the different god metals before the two shards became one...in order to better understand what the produced god metal may be like after they are united. I probably didn't make that very clear. Sorry.

This is a little off topic for the thread so please excuse me...but...on a recent reread of Final Empire, I noticed that in one of the logbook entries, Alendi mentions a strange lake at the base of the mountain, below where the well is located. He describes "It looks even more eerie from up here, with its glassy - almost metallic - sheen. I almost wish I had let him (Fedik) take a sample of its waters." This is never addressed again in the series...it seems like a strange thing to mention if it is of no importance. Any thoughts?

True...although...while Atium is Ruin's (ati's) essence condensed in the Pits of Hathsin, it is used by allomancy to fuel an incredible power, but does not permanently grant any power on it's own ...Lerasium, preservation's (Lera's) essence, is not the fluid at the Well as Ascension, but rather the metal beads that were in pots there...these permanently grant someone allomancy...the fluid in the well of ascension seems to give you incredible power, but is burned up quickly...like atium. So why the discrepancy? Are the beads of Lerasium just "dehydrated" well of ascension juice? Is there some liquid form of Atium that could permanently grant you a new set of powers? If you had a bead of Atium and Lerasium, could you make an alloy that would make you a feruchemist? Does it have to do with the Pits being made by preservation to siphon off Ruin's power? Does it have to do with the opposing nature of these two forces? ( by the way...I just had one of these questions (sort of) answered by moogle in a different thread. I wonder why Brandon didn't do more with Ruin's shardpool?)

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Definitely have to go with double steel. I picture a swift dropping 100 enemies with 100 clips to the forehead in the blink of an eye. In every day life...you sure as heck wouldn't have any trouble getting to places on time.

I just read this myself...interesting. Voidus May very well be onto something as well...feruchemy is the magical art of balance (or harmony) after all.

A pewter and F brass could be a steadfast...or a weatherer?

Would you like your sandwich with or without spren?

(Not to double post...but separate idea) burn atium to beat someone in chess...

When posting to this thread previously...I have assumed the black and white "arena combat" vs. and jumped right to...vin would totally win (I'd much rather be an allomancer than a lightweaver/soulcaster)...but...there is the fun killing, semi-realistic argument of..."why would they be fighting in the first place?" Both are people who are not afraid to get their hands dirty in order to accomplish their goals...but at the same time...are not totally devoid of morality and reason altogether. A better question may be...how would mistborn have turned out if Shallan were a member of the crew?

I also have to add that in one of dalinar's visions...windrunners wearing shardplate fall from the sky. To me...this reinforces the idea that people bearing honorblades can't use shardplate very well...but a radiant doesn't have a problem with it.

Just looking for some input on a very implausible theory...if harmony were to combine the pits of hathsin with the well of ascension...(theoretically) what would the product be like? The liquid in the well of ascension makes you nearly omnipotent for a brief time...atium makes you omniscient (sort of) for a period of time...would the combination of the two be some crazy powerful middle ground?...something totally different from either?...or would they balance out to something kind of lame?...also...how would the use of duralumin impact it's use?