The One Who Connects

Here. Here's the rest of them for discussion value.

That hasn't been confirmed yet.

That was kinda my point in bringing up the definition. I accidentally hit submit early and just added a quick addendum in post. Wasn't as concise as I'd hoped, but I tend to do that. Nothing in the definition is good or bad. Society has simply made us associate honor with good.

From Google: (Define Honor) It's actually quite an eye-opener for me that I can use all of these definitions of honor on bad people and make it fit easily...

Most likely. We know that Humans existed before the Shattering, so it's not much of a stretch to assume Adonalsium created them.(He built Roshar and the Parshendi after all) Almost certainly not. Brandon has gone to great lengths to point out that the Shards themselves are neither good or evil, so it stands to reason that the same applies to their original form. His intent was "to create sapience," and that isn't inherently good or evil. Debatable. He created the whole of Roshar, he likely created life on several other worlds, some tings on Yolen, etc.. He used his power a fair number of times, but without a timescale, we can't say he used his power "often" Technically, yes. Poor wording on your part, as a vessel and sentient Investiture both have a "mind." To answer what you actually meant: Subject of debate. I personally think that Adonalsium was a massive chunk of Investiture that gained sentience of its own. Others think there was a vessel involved, there's a third theory floating around somewhere, but I can't remember it at the moment.

Biggest problem with the "Unmade betrays and makes 3rd Bondsmith" theory is that there were 3 Bondsmiths before. If there were always 3, then it's not a betrayal at all, but part of the natural order. And that just doesn't sit right with me. In my opinion(so no wob proof), that doesn't feel right.

You're half right. The Shards did make Spren after their arrival, but a great many were there already. Formed from residual power that Adonalsium left behind when he created the planet. Take these numbers with a grain of salt, but I'd say 75% Big A's spren, 10% each from H&C, and the last 5% as Odiumspren(most of his are on Braize, IIRC).

I don't care whether or not he is telling the truth, much of the cast has learned the folly of blindly trusting someone's word. Kaladin was betrayed, Dalinar was betrayed, Moash, Adolin, etc.. I refuse to believe that the entire surviving cast will be stupid enough to not even try to call Odium's bluff. If an all powerful god cannot provide proof of its claims, what good are those claims? If he does provide proof, then we move to the red eyes paragraph. You misunderstand. I meant the pain it would suffer when Odium kills off the planet. The pain everyone will suffer. You know children are suffering and dying, but the infant in front of you puts it into perspective, makes it real. You don't want children to suffer, but seeing one in front of you, knowing you have the power to do something about it? Normal decision making goes out the window in times like that. As for possession, you're right that he doesn't have to, but it makes little difference. "Red eyes, take warning." Odium would not just sit idly by and let his champion get slaughtered. His champion will have access to magic(Voidbinding most likely) to protect itself. Even if all Odium does is provide fuel for self-defensive use of magic, the red eyes and/or visibly corrupted Stormlight(is Voidlight an proper term yet?) around the child will get misconstrued as possession because mankind are far too superstitious and have likely gone though enough of the Desolation to understand what it might mean. The choice of Honor is life. Of the two choices, only one ends with life. 1) Death bringing Life. - Kill the child, save the world. 2) Life bringing Death. - Spare the child, Odium destroys the world, killing the child and everyone else. You action and your inaction both lead to death, so deciding between "the child dies," and "the child + everyone else dies" is pointless. I can't choose life when my options are death and death. Deciding between "everyone else lives" and "everyone else dies" is the real choice. When your choices are directly kill only one person, and indirectly kill everyone including that person, which do you think is the more honorable choice? "In this job, you try to save as many people as you can. Sometimes that doesn't mean everyone. But you don't give up." - Captain America

You're assuming gemstones are not Allomantically Inert.

I believe he's implied that if he wrote another one, it might not be in Scadrial's CR(letting Brandon explore more of the Cosmere) If it's another Kelsier story, who knows what'll happen. This has been brought up before, and the only consensus I remember was that we can't rule out him having a fake spike like a certain other character did. Marsh seems to have improved, so it seems reasonable that he wouldn't kill someone solely for a spike.

Something was brought up earlier today about why Teod didn't seem to have its own form of magic, so I would say no. Either not every nation has a form of magic, or Teod is very non-exploratory and hasn't found theirs.

The push/pull is largely a "if they are metal, why that one?" point. But yea, they don't have to be metal. I think hers are because metal would last the longest out of the materials we've named.

I'll refer back to Weiry's point that aluminum is both strong and lightweight, whereas crystal is usually heavy, wood likely breaks down faster, and I think Harmony had a thing against human bones because of the morbidity inherent in it.

We have no evidence on whether or not a Savant could push on internal metal, so better safe than sorry. And now that medallions are a thing, its money well spent.

Being aluminum guarantees that they can't be pushed or pulled. Its a good enough reason for me at least. Might I ask why you don't see any reason for them to be Aluminum?

I found the WoB I was looking for. (Remarkably hard to find actually) I don't know what "not nearly as long" as 10-15 yrs would be considered, but it's something.

Fair enough. Just figured an older, more matured Adolin would be an interesting concept to play around with in the meantime.

Did he say this in relation to the front 5, or to Stormlight in general? If it was only regarding the front 5, Adolin could return in the back half if Brandon felt like involving him more in the "15 yrs later" storyline

One thing we had used to describe what we thought Division was like a year ago(or more) was that your molecules coming apart would look like someone had dropped acid on you to the non-scientist. Something like that could definitely cause even rock to smolder, and would be effective against a Thunderclast(which was basically all the reason we needed to like the interpretation and consider asking Brandon about it) And then there's Abrasion, which you mentioned earlier. Friction force could lead to burning.

Blame the search system on here not looking inside spoiler tags. From that same topic, page 1, first big spoiler tag (the Leipzig Signing Transcript)

XenosHg is right actually. We misread the Annotations. More of said Annotations This bit also says that the push to get Siri pregnant is that the Priests would much rather use a legitimate heir. Meaning that they would forgo said infant returned that they "found" if Susebron got Siri pregnant, which I find interesting. As for his being able to cast magic even without a tongue, he can. Vasher himself confirms this, and says that the Priests should know how in order to teach him.

So essentially, even though your other elemental figures aren't overpowered, you could write a scene much like this where they are in order to show off what the power could do. I approve of that logic. Might even use that if I ever write a magic-laden series. "In the interest of class balance, each type should be able to beat any of the others, and I just have to write a scene showing how." Makes sense.

I think it's because they are of Aonic descent. Only reason I can really think of. IIRC, D&D were shattered pretty quickly on the timeline, so it isn't likely that the magics were developed to a great degree when the shard holders were still around, if the magics existed at the time. You're half right. Magic did exist pre-splintering, but they were different.

Division splits molecular bonds. No atom splitting, so I presume no explosions either. Consider using the Surges we do know in the non Surge Fabrials we know (Diminisher, Attractor, Conjoiner, etc..) it's a whole new perspective

Fair enough. I pulled much the same assumption with him always having Eshonai be the 4th name he said when referring to the front five Decisions, decisions.. Let the infant be possessed by an evil god and let the world get destroyed. OR Free the infant from Odium's grip with a killing blow, thus saving the world. hrmm... I think you have sorely misunderstood the gravity of the situation. How quickly we all forget that Kaladin was fully willing to take the Assassin with him when he tackled him and fell from the Warcamps Tower. If Odium uses the child for anything that harms those that a Windrunner is Oathbound to protect, a repeat is almost assured. Pass any sort of law that Voidbound individuals are to be shot on sight, then Skybreakers are Oathbound to act. Dustbringers could "release" the child from Odium's control and finally earn the name of Releasers. Edgedancers are debatable. Truthwatchers are shrouded in too much secrecy to make a call here. Former murderer among the Lightweavers is nothing new, as self-realization is what is necessary. Elsecallers are debatable, but Jasnah and the thugs comes to mind. Willshapers should be inconsistent enough in temperament that at least one will take the plunge. Stonewards "took less care for imprudent practice of their stubbornness" Imprudent is defined as "not caring for consequences, rash". Sounds like an "act now, think later" person would fit in, and would try to solve the problem by acting. For Bondsmiths, I give you Gavilar's motivations. (Start from the linked post and scroll) If you think that sparing people from pain is the honorable thing to do, there is no way this ends without killing the child. You make the child's death swift and painless, as opposed to what will undoubtedly happen to it when Odium destroys the world. You spare the entire planet from painful deaths by saving them. "To lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose." - Third Doctor