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    If you're at all interested in an actual-play D&D podcast I highly recommend Sneak Attack. The Adventure Zone is very good as well, but I'd approach them more with the mindset of they are a storytelling podcast that loosely uses D&D as their vehicle as they are terrible about rules.
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    It's a Mistborn scene, I'm pretty sure Well of Ascension
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    Truer words were never spoken.
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    This is more what I was getting at then "kill so and so on this date." My fault for not communicating that more clearly.
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    I disagree. With Moash it's personal, I think I have to disagree with your entire post here. We haven't seen Hoid do anything other than express strength of convictions verbally. I'm not going to say someone is a monster if they tell me that they'd shoot a baby in the head if it meant the difference between their family dying or not. I'd have to stop and think about it if I saw that situation unfold. There's a clear difference between stating your intentions to do something and being shown the lengths that someone has already gone. So Hoid has told Dalinar that he would see the world burn (don't have the exact quote) whereas we've actually witnessed King T and Amaram performing the awful acts. I see a whole lot of space between them. Until we see proof of reprehensible action on Hoid's part, we can't rule out use of a rhetorical devices like hyperbole in that instance. We can definitely rule that out for the other two.
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    No worries! I don't want you to think I haven't heard and internalized your points, but I don't want the thesis to get lost for love of the minutiae (and I do love me some minutiae.) I agree with the sentiment, but I'm hesitant to apply it here because of King T's involvement. A specific course and timeline for the assassinations seems like it could be something that the diagram would have plotted out beforehand to sow the most chaos. More than happy to agree to disagree here, but it seems like a lot of things have to line up just right in order for Szeth to have discovered it this way.
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    I had the same thought and sent out an email to them about two minutes before you posted this haha. It was a favorable initial response and she said she will get back to me. EDIT FOR UPDATE: So, unfortunately, since it's Calamity merchandise from a different publisher, they aren't able to allow me to do anything like that. Any Sharders who want some Reckoners merch though, I'll still have them on me to give out. @Argent Do you need any recording equipment for Arcanum purposes?
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    I understand, as I said, the split hairs aren't going to have any bearing on the original point I'm making, and I don't want to unnecessarily bog down the discussion into a nitty gritty discussion of specifics that in the end don't have any specific relevance to the point I originally made as that was also a derailment off of a specific quibble from another post that got lost because we're so focused on this one tiny thing. Suffice it to say I'm working hard to disabuse myself of knowledge or theories that are inconsistent with what is possible, but it's hard to make up three years of lost time on the forum, and I don't want every thread I make to turn into a thousand different justifcations that are each in turn examined individually without ever returning to my main points. That can get very frustrating very quickly without showing much in the way of forward progress. By strict convenience standards, it's probably easiest to plan your route to avoid having to make repeated flights over the big mountain and move kingdom by kingdom. We only see Szeth go to Urithuru after his worldview is traumatically shaken by his interaction with Kaladin. I just don't see a reason he'd be flying over the mountains often enough to find it that isn't more plausibly explained by the Shin knowing about where the city with the only uncursed stones in the east is. As I understand it, the basic rules of thumb is that the shorter paths skew toward the poles, With Urithuru nearing the equator, I don't think it's in the shortest flight paths in most instances. http://gisgeography.com/great-circle-geodesic-line-shortest-flight-path/
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    It helps that Sebarial was pumping enough booze into Urithuru to make a horneater turn red.
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    Jasnah convention at the 17thshard!
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    My hero
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    1-3 I don't feel like is very relevant to replying for my points. Regardless of how they know, they are still more aware of Cosmere magic than the rest of the planet. I'd be more than happy to participate in a discussion on another thread, but I'm unwilling to derail this one for what amounts to splitting hairs over technicalities in theorizing. Urithuru is still above the clouds, in a pretty big mountain. That's inconvenient by any standard, and dangerous for someone in limited Stormlight. While I can appreciate the theory behind what you're saying, there's just one question I have to ensure that it is a sound principle behind that theory: do we know what kind of projection Brandon has based the map of Roshar off of or if it even is actually a projection of a globe? That makes a huge difference in the shortest flight path between two points on a map, and I've never heard it discussed whether or not that's something he considered. Honestly though I'd be more interested (or just as) to hear your thoughts about my reasoning behind cultivation and Dalinar's vision.
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    I'm actually going to revise my opinion again. This excerpt is pretty clear-cut. I think my theory is still plausible. Just because he called Renarin useless. Sadeas says that it's Dalinar or him, that he's going to take everything from him. It's an open declaration of war. I interpret that as cause to seek blood if Dalinar can claim it in this situation. Granted, the important exception is that here it was in front of witnesses and before the king, but that's why Adolin is also justified by his boon granted to him by the King back from WoR.
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    Yup, I think Jasnah sums it up best. "Pride is often mistaken for faultlessness."
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    I'm saying this because it's why he would call an enemy shardbearer in the battlefield an assassin. There's no reason for a Veden lighteyed Shardbearer to be working with Alethi kingdoms in internal border struggles, that's why it's an assassination, not dying on the battlefield. Dalinar would not accept 17 people saying, "I heard a story that there was an assassination attempt and then Amaram had shards the next day." That would support Kaladin''s allegations
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    Amaram has no reason to be fighting with Vedenar. He fights in Alethi border skirmishes, so there's no reason he would be a commander. That's why he calls him an assassin. I had forgotten about that quote though, good call.
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    Four months before he shows up on the plains, "long" after Kaladin''s ledger says he was made a slave. It also never says he won them from an assassin, it's heavily implied this is from a battlefield. In both instances they use the phrase 'won his shards' which, in my opinion, can only be interpreted as killing a shardbearer on the battlefield. A full shardbearer wouldn't be as effective an assassin as just a Blade holder would be like Lhiss, and it's implied Amaram won both his shards' at the same time.
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    I finished up my WoK listen today and found another cool parallel I wanted to share. Spoiler tags for length. His trick with Eshonai wasn't all that original. Guess Dalinar better be glad Eshonai doesn't practice the Kholin brand of mercy.
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    That was an insult?!?
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    Fair point.
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    This got a big laugh out of me.
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    Yes, that is exactly what a thought experiment is. If you believe this to be the case ,that my original conclusion from my original thread is based on shaky supporting structure then I highly encourage you to take those counter arguments that you don't think I have fully accounted for, bring them to the other thread where they will be relevant, and I will address them there. The entire point of a thought experiment is that you assume the premise to be true and work from there. That's the whole reason I put parentheticals in the title. Is there any good reason I cannot create a specific thread for the discussion of whether or not Jasnah's character would allow this action and specifically shape the discussion as I have - that we have to assume she has done it and use the philosophies presented in Way of Kings? What exactly is my sin here?
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    Calderis, while he has frustrated me in this specific instance, was in the other thread acknowledging my arguments. I have a lot of respect for him, and I do not feel as though he has disrespected me now, or at any other time. Our point of contention in this thread, in my opinion, will not have any bearing on the future of our mutual respect. From your comments here, it is obvious you have not taken the time to go to the other thread, and you are not willing to respect my wishes. That is very disrespectful. I'm going to ask one more time, if you want to discuss my arguments, they are in the other thread, and I'm more than happy to discuss them with you. Please do not disrespect me by ignoring that thread, the point of this one, and then acting as though you have a fully nuanced understanding of my argument. I will not disrespect you in that way, please afford me the same. I'm not looking for a smoking gun, I'm looking for discussion on whether or not people are agreeing with my read on the morality/philosophy of the situation as well as Jasnah's character given the assumption that Jasnah did in fact reverse assassinate Kabsal. It's a thought experiment. Pretend this is true, work through the implications, discuss.
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    @Calderis my Stones, Stone Shamanism, and Death Rites thread has just about every quote from Szeth and the shin about stones I could get my hands on if that helps speed up your research time.
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    And I'm just asking for you to present a scenario where that is possible, as I see none. I'm still willing to have a conversation, but please meet me halfway.
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