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Relevant: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/3941-spocon-report/ http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/2745-signing-reports/#entry90139

UPDATE: Just as an FYI, I'm waiting on BoM to update the OP again, since apparently we'll be getting some good ones in that book. Here are the links I'll need at that time: -Update the OP by referencing Cadmium out-going deflection as seen at that one scene early in SoS -Multiple RAFOs -Speed bubble aging ->Reference to how we'll get stuff in BoM -Bubbles would go around aluminum tubes, can modify bubble sizes -Brandon on chicanery for bubbles -4 bubble questions (cancelling venn, emotional allomancy "over the top" -- also rafo on nicrosil) sdf

The point still stands, I believe. The idea was that you'd store part of the memory, leaving both the stored and the retained bits "vague". So the Archivist is still missing something that they once had once they stop storing.

I'm not sure about "damage", but any memories stored in a coppermind definitely aren't in your head anymore, from what the books show us.

Yeah, that aspect of it was somewhat amusing.

Ah, you're quite right. Thank you; silly of me. Now that you mention it, fBendally, Feruchemical cadmium, and Feruchemical brass work in that same way, without everything necessarily getting set back to "default" when they stop storing. One interesting thing to note about those 3, though, is that they all involve taking in something from the environment and squirreling it away, as opposed to Feruchemical copper's storage of memories. Although I suppose under certain models memories could be said to be taken in from the environment, in a sense...

We've never seen any Feruchemy besides Feruchemical copper where storing makes you permanently lose anything, so it could well be that the system is so broken that the Feruchemist doesn't lose anything in the long term by storing into Feruchemical nicrosil.

Most galaxies are planar, it seems, so that shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Regarding White Sand, I must say I'm not grooving the random bolding, though I'm given to understand it's a "thing" with graphic novels.

You okay there Moogle? I posted that WoB a week ago, and then you replied to it...

Been reading that for five years now (came to it out of DM of the Rings); good stuff.

I'd thought Brandon was suggesting "Balance" as the alternate name, when a Shardholder couldn't get the parts to actually work together and was just stuck doing nothing, instead of Sazed's "not as much as I'd like".

Give my thanks to your sister, Zas. We already knew most of that about time bubbles, but the stuff on emotional allomancy going "over the top" is definitely new. She sounds like someone who might be interested in my somewhat absurd "everything we know about time bubbles" thread (note: I'm waiting on updating it for the new SoS info until after BoM comes out). Also, the bit on the Spiritual Realm being entirely time/space independent, while not entirely new, hasn't been stated quite so clearly that I can recall.

It's possible that Ruin flat-out didn't know. the deeper mechanics. Not only does it run counter to his Intent, but the only time Compounding had ever happened on Scadrial was TLR, and I doubt he was in a sharing mood. So sure Ruin can make an educated guess, but that might not be "crunchy" enough to actually explain it to someone well enough for them to overcome their mental barriers.

I would bet money on this being a mistype on Brandon's part.

UPDATE: From the recent AMA: Source: So that answers the "I-beam as a steelmind" question, and is suggestive for the "do you get a smidgen of Allomantic effect every time" question. For the second, it's been pointed out that this would have been an excellent time for Brandon to mention "short circuiting", if it existed, and the fact that he doesn't may well indicate that it doesn't happen. I'm still leaning towards short-circuiting, but this doesn't exactly help my case. EDIT: The answer is a bit odd in that it talks about "the small portion of gold invested with [Mile's] investiture" running out. Which suggests that you could store in an I-beam for a minute, then find and break off the one little portion that has Investiture in it. This seems a bit odd and contradictory for what we've seen/had WoB on so far, so I'm inclined to read Brandon as talking about "small portion of gold" in the sense of the gold that happens to be associated with the feruchemical investiture as its burned off, rather than all and only gold atoms 1-10,000 being specifically Invested before Miles even started burning. I've asked a follow-up, though I've not much hope in seeing an answer.

I'll note that Brandon's specifically asked that the questions be of the "broad, general-interest" variety, in what was likely a not-so-subtle suggestion to us to back off on the cosmere stuff a bit.

@Moogle My own interpretation/solution dealing with the cadmium/bendalloy overlap issue is to have the cadmium bubble be stationary relative to the ship while the bendalloy bubble is in motion relative to the ship. So (hopefully) you get the time-warping effects of both types of bubbles (cancelling out) but the movement-warping effect of only one of them (the bendalloy bubble). @Confused People age normally (read: at an accelerated rate relative to everyone not in a bubble) in bendalloy bubbles, so I don't see why they shouldn't do the same (or the inverse, depending on your frame or reference) inside cadmium bubbles.

The Alcubierre drive looks a bit more sophisticated than just "maker time go faster here". It works by shuffling around the space that the ship happens to inhabit, rather than by the ship jetsetting around going "faster than the speed of light outside the bubble." Maybe the Alcubierre drive is how it'll all turn out to work, through precise manipulation of space time using bubbles, but that kind of stuff is almost entirely speculative from what we've actually seen of time bubble use. We don't have any such WoB, but FTL using time bubbles is both a very educated guess on most's part and somewhat hinted at over the years.

Sadly logic becomes our foe at this point, though. So we've got a space ship with a bendalloy bubble around it, with that bubble sharing the ship's frame of reference. Congratulations. Now the problem is explaining why that ship should be moving any faster through space than it was before the bubble was put up. So far as the bubble is concerned, the ship is stationary. Any model that tries to make the ship move faster in space just because its encapsulated by a same-frame-of-reference bendalloy bubble needs to explain why Wayne doesn't shoot off in some random direction the moment he puts down a "stationary" bubble on Scadrial. My own thoughts on the matter are covered in the thread that Eagle was kind enough to link to.

It's impossible/annoying to actually conceal identities, so normally no one really bothers to try.

Yeah, the fanservice aspect got a bit annoying with Railgun—though Index certainly isn't a paragon of virtue in that regard either. But ignoring that (at some point in such shows where quality outweighs the negatives of fanservice I just have to go "it's anime" and move on ) I like Railgun quite a bit more than Index.

The TenSoon quote was almost certainly sarcasm, in context.

Yeah that one was a bit surprising to me. So my model of TLR aging b/c Forms was incorrect. It begins to amuse me that the foundational observation ("Why do TLR/Miles age?") for the whole Ideals/Forms model isn't an instance of that model. I guess Brandon was being pretty broad when he said "the same sort of concept." http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/23343-chicago-02202015/page-4#entry231691 So far as soul-healing goes, I'd still wager that that's an instance of Forms.

*sees FTL in thread title* *clicks on thread*