Kurkistan

Thanks for the additional context. I'm recalling now: was that when he was bringing up how even FTL communication is violating causality as an example of the need to go a bit wibbly-wobbly with FTL physics?

So far as I could tell the context of the the conversation was about the broader nature of future space travel/magic in the cosmere. And Brandon was talking about the seeds already being their in the books, using stuff we've already seen on Roshar as his examples. I rather distinctly recall the phrase "already have an ansible", and so doubt that that he was referring to some other (nigh?) instantaneous magical communication device on Roshar just then. Sure it's possible that some super-secret method exists that he was actually referring to, but in that case feel free to mentally add a "reasonable" between the "only" and "candidate" in my speculation on the line after I imparted what memory I had of Brandon's comments. And I guess "probably-" infront of "confirmation". Aside: So far as rotation goes, that's already being taken care of one way or another. Not only am I fairly sure we have a WoB on it, but simple common sense demands it, as otherwise anyone on different latitudes or altitudes on Roshar would find their spanreeds flying off.

That's not necessarily the only mechanism chromium can work by. If the BoM broadsheet story with Nahz is anything to go by, the Leecher protagonist manages to drain Nahz's shade-shooting gun.

Ah yes, one other signing-report thing: I was distracted by the draft, but I distinctly heard Brandon talking with the other table about space travel as relates to Roshar. He was talking about how the magic can already control gravity/pressure and the like, but the thing that stood out clearly was that he was saying that they already had an ansible. The only candidate for that is spanreeds/conjoiner fabrials, so that's a nice confirmation there that they communicate faster than light.

My own questions (verbatim): Signing Line: Kurk: How exactly, Realmatically, is it tracked- like [for example] Aon Aon with these swirls and lines means "Arelon"? Brandon: I'm not gonna' explain that yet; I can explain how the shape is, but the whole relationship between the Aons and the magic and the landscape- SoS Spoilers Kurk: What exactly was Harmony's original plan for Lessie if she'd gone along with it? Brandon: Well the original plan was to turn Wax into what he kind of ended up being. Q: And Lessie would still be alive, then? A: Yes, and kind of as his minder slash, ya know... During Magic (there was a lull, I promise): -Blightsong was kind enough to spare a moment in his excellent series of questions to let me get a silly bubble question in edgewise. Kurk: What exactly- When an object enters a time bubble, how exactly does it determine- how does it know how fast and which direction it's "really" going? Brandon: It gets deflected a little bit when it enters, but then it adapts to the momentum that it would have going in. Q: Like Spiritual bonds to something or other? A: Riiight <sounds hesitant> it's- so... I can't explain that because it has relevance in the future. But in that moment when it passes [into the bubble], something is happening with conservation of momentum. The trick we have to do with it in order to keep from irradiating people. P.S. Copied for completion's sake, I also asked that surgebinder-gemheart question I'd been speculating on for a few years. We got a RAFO back in 2014, but I had forgotten and it seems Brandon was in a more open mood this time. Kurk: Do Surgebinders have Gemhearts? Blightsong: *laughs* I was about to ask that. Brandon: No, good question. P.P.S: Also Rosharan ansible. So that happened. Overall a good little set of questions. The Lessie thing had been nagging at me for awhile and the bubble answer puts a tidy little nail into my historical "let's not worry about the mechanics of that" for redshift/blueshift; historically I've always interpreted "that's a problem for the future" as "this has to do with Allomantic FTL", so that bears thinking about.

I'm here too and Blightsong is doing work sitting by Brandon asking questions, taking notes, etc.

The problem I've always had with "the ship drags the bubble while the bubble speeds the ship" is frame of reference. So far as the bubble/ship are concerned, the ship really isn't moving, so there's no need to speed the ships movement up while it's in a bubble that's moving just as fast as it is. Now this is potentially invalid analysis given new WoP showing that relativity isn't king, but I think whatever mechanism judges what's "still" will probably still be enough to stop a bubble anchored to the ship from accelerating the ship's movement. For reference: -All bubble WoBs we have pre-SoS (spoiler at the end of the OP has them) -All the post-SoS WoBs I've yet to incorporate into the first link because I'm a bad/lazy/busy person --Plus that WoP I linked to earlier.

Retsam's chart is pretty good for getting a toehold into just about any genre.

I was kind of more going for cancellation like conflicting waves than strict absorption, but even if that's not how it works I don't really see any great need to maintain "the Balance" in Allomancy. Harmony's the one who's all caught up on that, not his magic systems. -- Talking about steel/iron is an interesting angle. To take a guess, I'd say the most plausible explanation would either be "well as it turns out you can block steel/iron lines, it's just not the default use for copper and takes some finagling", "no, that's on a far far higher power level than just cancelling some ripples that bronze would detect", or "steel/iron work on a different principle." Also:

Yeah. So essentially the cork is all "I'm moving north and not moving east/west" and then the bubble hits it and is all like "oh look an object that's moving north but not moving east/west!" The bubble looks to show a remarkable amount of respect for the notions of the objects it eats.

The Mistborn Adventure Game is a pen-and-paper RPG released by Crafty Games. Mistborn Birthright is a video game project set a few hundred years before the original Mistborn books; sadly, it's a piece of vaporware that most doubt will ever see the light of day.

So by this you mean become immortal, unsleeping, not needing food, etc.?

PAFO up: Kurkistan: [Editor's note: I had some typos/grammatical errors in my initial transcription that are here corrected for consistency with the final transcript, but the meaning remained the same] To restate the scenario in more understandable terms (phase 2 is to use diagrams, if it comes to it and I still don't manage to get it across): Say Cory the cork-thrower is standing besides a train track. Cory is facing North and the train is running from West to East. Cory tosses a cork North up over a passing train. Normally, this cork would go over the train and land on the ground directly opposite Cory to the North. From the frame of reference of Cory and his cork, the train is moving West->East. From the frame of reference of the train, the train isn't moving at all and the cork is moving both South->North and East->West (i.e., Northwest). So if we were to draw a line describing the cork's movement, Cory's line would have the cork moving South->North over a moving train. The train's line would have the cork travelling Southeast->Northwest as it described a diagonal across the train. If there's a bubble on the train, that's where things get complicated. When the bubble hits the cork, does the train's frame of reference "take over" so far as it's direction of travel goes? So far as the train is concerned, nothing really changes: the cork is still describing that same diagonal, just more quickly/slowly. But so far as Cory and his cork are concerned, all the sudden the cork is moving laterally (East->West) corresponding to the train's frame of reference. The question, then, is where the cork lands when all's said and done: does it still land directly North of Cory after it passes over the train, or does it land a bit to the West or East as well? ----- My thoughts/model on this would be that it also lands West/East. If the bubble was a bendalloy bubble, then the corks diagonal passage would be accelerated, meaning that it pops out of the bubble off to the West of where it would have otherwise. A cadmium bubble would still move the cork to the West according to its frame of reference, but because of how slow the bubble itself is in motion the cork would still end up East of Cory. Peter: The bubble's frame of reference would take over while it's inside. But you also need to include the fact that bubbles deflect things. The cork would be deflected both when it enters and when it leaves the bubble. So you can't completely predict the path it will take. - <At this point the conversation kept on for a bit as things grew... complicated. We misunderstood one another [which I take the blame for] on several crucial fronts and ended up talking past one another. Long story short is that I'd been implicitly assuming absolute relativity of reference frames in the cork-bubble system—so while both types of bubble would drag the cork along for a bit, that dragging would also be offset (to varying degrees based on bubble type/compression) by lateral movement of the cork within the bubble. This is wrong.> - Peter: If the train is moving east, and he throws the cork over the train, a bubble that slows the cork down will mean the cork ends up east of him. If the train is moving east, and he throws the cork over the train, a bubble that speeds the cork up will mean the cork ends up on the other side of the train faster than it would have with no bubble. It doesn't move west. If the speed bubble only very slightly increases the flow of time, then the cork could even end up slightly east of him, depending on the speed of the train. So depending on the speed or slowness of the bubble, and the speed of the train, the cork will either end up exactly where the thrower expects it to, but more quickly, slightly east of where he expects, but more quickly, or quite a bit east of where he expects, more slowly. The cork doesn't move west. In fact, I think it's safe to assume that the train is always moving to the east faster than the thrower is throwing the cork to the north. In that case, both types of bubbles will always end up pushing the cork at least somewhat to the east. Let's do the math here. Say the bubble is 10 feet in diameter and the cork toss hits the bubble right in the center. He tossed the cork at 5mph. The bubble is 2x speed. That means the cork goes 10 mph across the train (measuring from the frame of reference of the tosser). The train is moving at 50 mph. The cork crosses the train in 0.682 seconds. In that time the train moves 50 feet to the east. So the cork ends up 50 feet to the east of where the tosser expected it to. If the bubble is 100x speed, the cork goes 500mph across the train, and in that time the train moves 1 foot. The cork ends up 1 foot to the east of where the tosser expected it to, but much faster than he expected. If the bubble is 1/2 speed, then the cork goes 2.5 mph across the train. The cork crosses the train in 2.727 seconds. In that time the train goes 200 feet to the east. The cork ends up 200 feet to the east of where the tosser thought it would end up. If the bubble is 1/100 speed, then the cork goes 0.05 mph across the train. The train moves 1.9 miles in the time it takes the cork to cross the train. The tosser has no idea where it ends up, but he watches it hovering over the train as the train goes off into the distance. ... As far as the cork is concerned, it can't tell the difference whether it's moving through a stationary bubble or a (laterally) moving bubble. From the cork's point of view it moves in a straight line either way. - <Some doodles got involved at one point or another, and it was also confirmed that the path of the cork (barring refraction) would stay the same once it left the bubble, still going directly north> ---------------------- Kurk's Kommentary: Well that's interesting. I'd been assuming relativity of reference frames, but it looks like there needs to be some other mechanism at work to decide how the cork is "really" moving. I don't think this necessarily messes with current FTL models, but it requires some rethinking. The "everything we know" thread will need to be reworked to excise my relativity-based analysis and incorporate this.

I think you're likely misinterpreting that section. The idea so far as I can tell is that you write "Ire" and that encapsulates a concept: age, time, the passage of time, ancientness, etc. Or you can spell it all out using other words. The "more rational common script" is used to write the "concepts and ideas conveyed by the Aons", not used to "make the same sound as the Aons": It's not a matter of just phonetically spelling out "Ire" using another character set. So your normal Arelonian can either write "The building was <Ire>" or "The building was ancient, it's bones creaking with the weight of centuries." Not "The building was ee-rr-ay." I can't really comment on how the people went about learning what "Ehe" sounds like, but the Ars Arcanum entry is very very clear that the sounds the Aons make are pre-defined. I'm not sure how one can be reading that otherwise.

Are you quite sure? I have the book open in front of me right now and am looking at the line that says: "Curiously, the Aons produce sounds otherwise unused in the general languages of the area [...] But who, then, created [the Aons]? And did they create them to desribe the landscape, or did the landscape somehow dictate the shape and sounds of the Aons?" [emphasis in original].

I was going to do a pass this weekend. I also finally resolved the PAFO. The discussion was... long.

I recall reading that he took a minor in astronomy purely for the sake of being better able to do science fiction.

He was just going to manifest and metabolize it.

Well when you put it that way...

Re-spiking yourself hadn't necessarily occurred to me, the general idea makes sense. I don't believe we have any WoB on whether the power would be "pulled back" from the spike upon healing, but the "scar tissue" nature of soul-healing suggests otherwise: that you're replacing the missing bits with fundamentally new Investiture.

Shshsh. You're being far too obvious.

Yes (almost certainly), Shallan in the festival scene with Hoid. Source:

Yeah, I choked. The question is meant to ask was "are there Feruchemical savants? Was Miles one?", but I never got to the second sentence.

The implication was that it wouldn't work for compounding either, but I failed to get it clarified, for which I am shamed.

As a sneak preview of the latest Chicago signing, there's no such thing as Feruchemical savants, at least not in Brandon's current outlines.