Long Game 72: The Secret of Shinovar

[+Whysper she/her]

53 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I’m most suspicious of both SfS (from my previous suspicions) and STINK (out of the players that voted for Gears). However, SfS didn’t vote last turn. Not sure what that means, although the vote manip could have been due to worry that SfS wasn’t voting in self-defense. Or it could be a ploy.

35 minutes ago, Eternum said:

I think at this point it doesn't hurt us at all if Chana kills SfS, honestly.

STINK is 1 of the 2 players to receive Nightblood or Ishar. He's also had Kalak since D3, so he may have enough Stormlight to use Nightblood if he's been saving up. The other player (probably Villager) who may have gotten Nightblood instead also has another blade, but not as long a time. Not sure if they have enough Stormlight to use Nightblood.

The person with Chanarach also has Paliah, so they may have been using Paliah to protect or may still need to use it. We can discuss pros and cons for using each, and then let them decide. This will keep the Elims guessing on exactly what they are doing so they won't know whether to worry about someone being protected or about protecting one of their own from a kill or roleblocking someone or whatever. I somewhat lean towards saying to use Chanarach to kill someone in the PoE.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

I guess I'm probably a target anyway, so I'll go ahead and claim Nightblood. I don't have enough Stormlight to use it until the next Storm, and I'm not going to claim my other blade (which I haven't used at all) until the Day turn comes around. I'll just put it out there that I'm considering using the suicide kill, since I figure there is a decent chance that I get killed anyway.

[Eternum he/him]

Keep in mind that if you suicide and hit a villager, we lose, but I won't tell you not to do it. Actually, now that I think about it... No, we don't. Huh.

Now, if you do decide to kill, then the elims won't attack you, out of fear that they'll waste the kill. But maybe you won't use Nightblood, and they do manage to kill you..

At this point, I'm tempted to say we go for broke and pull out all the stops, cause, assuming 3 remaining elims between SfS, Lotus, Mist, and maybe Stink I guess, in the case that Araris kamikazes himself onto someone then we absolutely need a Chanarach kill to not lose. Assuming 2 elims, then Chana and Araris both killing simplifies the game a lot, with either 3 villagers and 2 elims or 4 villagers and 1 elim left, unless they get both and we outright win.

Regardless, I'd implore Chana to kill anyway because it can only help us at this point.

Edited December 25, 2020 by Eternum

[+Whysper she/her]

4 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

I'll just put it out there that I'm considering using the suicide kill, since I figure there is a decent chance that I get killed anyway.

Yeah, this is a good potential option. And good to put it out there anyway to keep the Elims guessing.

2 hours ago, Eternum said:

At this point, I'm tempted to say we go for broke and pull out all the stops, cause, assuming 3 remaining elims between SfS, Lotus, Mist, and maybe Stink I guess, in the case that Araris kamikazes himself onto someone then we absolutely need a Chanarach kill to not lose. Assuming 2 elims, then Chana and Araris both killing simplifies the game a lot, with either 3 villagers and 2 elims or 4 villagers and 1 elim left, unless they get both and we outright win.

Regardless, I'd implore Chana to kill anyway because it can only help us at this point.

I'm kind of tempted by this plan as well. Most of those in the PoE aren't very active. Actually a lot of us are dropping in activity already. Connie mentioned that she'll be busy for the next week. So maybe we need to just go for this.

BTW, I think He who goes DORIYAH!! / Vasher212 should still be in the PoE as well. They didn't have Chanarach, so don't have them going for them. They are still suspicious for going under the radar. They haven't been responding to recent pings.

[Condensation she/her]

19 hours ago, Eternum said:

I think at this point it doesn't hurt us at all if Chana kills SfS, honestly..

18 hours ago, Whysper said:

The person with Chanarach also has Paliah, so they may have been using Paliah to protect or may still need to use it. We can discuss pros and cons for using each, and then let them decide. This will keep the Elims guessing on exactly what they are doing so they won't know whether to worry about someone being protected or about protecting one of their own from a kill or roleblocking someone or whatever. I somewhat lean towards saying to use Chanarach to kill someone in the PoE.

I'm confused. You both seem to think Chanarach should kill someone, but 1: I don't know what a PoE is, and 2: People have said that this could be an attempt to get Somebody under suspicion. So which is it? I know the Bearer of Chanarach also currently bear Paliah, but wouldn't protection be better?

Edit: This is probably the last time I'll be on for the next week or so, unless Mist lets me on her phone. Please clarify quickly. I might get on tomorrow morning, if I'm fast.

Edited December 26, 2020 by Condensation

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

4 minutes ago, Condensation said:

I'm confused. You both seem to think Chanarach should kill someone, but 1: I don't know what a PoE is, and 2: People have said that this could be an attempt to get Somebody under suspicion. So which is it? I know the Bearer of Chanarach also currently bear Paliah, but wouldn't protection be better?

I'm very much against a Somebody kill , it is an attempt to get me under suspicion/something more altruistic, as I am not Elim.

Also, can somebody (not Somebody) give me a summary, as well as some quotes/copypastes of the points brought against me?

[Condensation she/her]

2 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

I'm very much against a Somebody kill , it is an attempt to get me under suspicion/something more altruistic, as I am not Elim.

Also, can somebody (not Somebody) give me a summary, as well as some quotes/copypastes of the points brought against me?

I don't know what the points are against you, that's part of why I'm asking.

So basically I'm asking for who is sus (reads, maybe?) and reasonings. 

[REDACTED], the Bearer of Chanarach, pay attention!

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

Just now, Condensation said:

I don't know what the points are against you, that's part of why I'm asking.

So basically I'm asking for who is sus (reads, maybe?) and reasonings. 

[REDACTED], the Bearer of Chanarach, pay attention!

I wasn't asking you for reads, that's why I went down a line.

[Condensation she/her]

2 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

I wasn't asking you for reads, that's why I went down a line.

Ah. Okay, sorry.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Less than 10 minutes to rollover!

[+Lotus she/her]

Sigh I forgot to follow this thread

[Ashbringer he/him]

Yay now I don't have to double post.

And that's time!

 

Next rollover should be back at 5:00 PST.

[Ashbringer he/him]

Viola-daughter-Condensation refused to be branded a coward.

A warrior, a fighter, perhaps a bloodspiller. That may be her fate. But to her, and the stones she attuned, dying with honor was better than living a coward. Who knew? Perhaps she would survive this and kill the Radiant. Live with honor, a hero. Or… perhaps the alleged Shaman and their mob would try and force her to die a coward. Honor and cowardice were often opposed, but when your leaders commanded you bear your own neck for the slaughter… she didn’t know what she would do. But either way she would never see Shinovar again.

However, she was unlikely to get that chance.

Kaladin had come himself, perhaps aware of the bounty that she held. Two Honorblades. That wasn’t supposed to be how things were done, but by the souls of the stones there were a lot of things that weren’t supposed to be these days.

Viola blocked Kaladin’s spear with Chanarach’s Blade, swinging with Paliah’s. The Honorblade caught the Radiant’s left arm, but Stormlight burst to heal him. She didn’t have that luxury. Not against a Shard…whatever it was.

She did, however, have other advantages. Glowing with her own Stormlight, Abrasion slickened her feet, letting her race down the corridor. Kaladin cursed and followed with a Lashing. Viola knew the Surges, at least in theory. This Radiant may know his two Surges better than any Bearer, but she had four, and knew what he was capable of.

They raced for a corner in the hallway, Viola grabbing the edge to swing herself around. Then she burned with Stormlight, closing her eyes as she overshot and hit the wall – and went through, the wood Dividing itself away as it touched her. The infiltrator soon got through using his Shardblade, but it gave her precious moments to try her other blade.

When Kaladin cut through, he blinked. Viola had cast an illusion, giving her skin the same pattern as the floor beneath her feet. It would let her take a stand.

Kaladin charged. Viola swung her Honorblades, twin silver blades of death.

Kaladin deftly blocked Chanarach's with his spear, letting Paliah's take him in the side. Lashing himself into the blow. Into close quarters.

Then he thrust his spear forward, knocking her still-slickened form off balance.

The next thrust took her in the eye.

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Condensation was killed! They were a member of the Shin High Council, the Bearer of Chanarach’s Honorblade, and the Bearer of Paliah’s Honorblade!

Chanarach’s Honorblade is available to be claimed by Condensation's killer! If it remains unclaimed, it will be redistributed at the end of the turn.

Paliah's Honorblade is available to be claimed by Condensation's killer! If it remains unclaimed, it will be redistributed at the end of the turn.

(Note that only one Honorblade (including Nightblood) can be claimed from one kill.)

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@He who goes DORIYAH!! is being warned for inactivity; they will be removed if they do not post this cycle. (They previously asked for a pinch hitter, but since there aren't any available I'm not just going to mod-kill them.)

 

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Honorblade List:

Spoiler

• Jezrien's Honorblade: 
  • Adhesion and Gravitation
     
• Chanarach’s Honorblade: Available to be claimed
  • Division and Abrasion
     
• Vedel’s Honorblade:
  • Abrasion and Progression
     
• Pailiah’s Honorblade: Available to be claimed
  • Progression and Illumination
     
• Shalash’s Honorblade:
  • Illumination and Transformation
     
• Battar’s Honorblade: Removed by Battar
  • Transformation and Transportation
     
• Kalak’s Honorblade:
  • Transportation and Cohesion
     
• Ishar’s Honorblade:
  • Tension and Adhesion
     
• Nightblood:
  • Unblockable Roleblock + Kill (4 Stormlight)
  • Unblockable Roleblock + Kill (0 Stormlight, unblockably kills user (single use))

 

Player List:

Spoiler

1. Gears - Roko - Shin High Council
2. Ooklil' the Wei (Illwei) - Shin High Council
3. Quinn0928 - Lin-daughter-Lanari / Rinala Rades - Shin High Council and Bearer of Kalak's Honorblade
4. Ookla's Dice (Matrim's Dice) - Daziron-son-Odium - Battar and Bearer of Battar's Honorblade
5. Ookla the Disproportionate (Danex) - Truthless and Bearer of Kalak's Honorblade
6. @Somebody from Sel - 
7. @Araris Valerian - Hadrian-son-Penrod
8. TJ Shade - Galatar - Shin High Council and Bearer of Battar's Honorblade
9. Ookla the Larkin (Ventyl) - The Larkin - Szeth, Bearer of Nightblood and Bearer of Paliah's Honorblade
10. Ookla the Shadowed (Experience) - Shadow - Shin High Council and Bearer of Paliah's Honorblade
11. Ookla the Hypodecadal (Devotary of Spontaneity) - Ganeth-null-Shantis-Mawelar - Vyre and Bearer of Jezrien's Honorblade
12. Flyingbooks42 - Tsezn - Szeth's Cohort
13. @Lotus - Sunwalker
14. Condensation - Viola-daughter-Condensation - Shin High Council, Bearer of Chanarach’s Honorblade, and Bearer of Paliah’s Honorblade
15. @He who goes DORIYAH!! (Vasher212) - Gunandwaf-son-Warbreaker
16. @Mist - 
17. Vapor - Shin High Council and Bearer of Ishar's Honorblade
18. @Whysper
19. @STINK
20. Ookla the Sprinkle (JesterLavorre) - Jes-son-Laal - Shin High Council
21. Alvron - Izzy-daughter-Ammi / Izzy Dedyet - Shin High Council and Bearer of Shalash's Honorblade
22. @Eternum - 
23. Furamirionind - Shin High Council, Bearer of Nightblood, and Bearer of Ishar's Honorblade

 

[+Lotus she/her]

Huh. Well, that aint great

[Eternum he/him]

Siiiigh. Well, that's alright. I hope Ishar gave Araris some stormlight, at least.

SfS. There's essentially a 2/3 OR 3/3 chance that SfS is elim, and them flipping village doesn't exactly end the game. Connie, this would have been so much easier had you killed someone last Night..

[Araris Valerian he/him]

SfS.

44 minutes ago, Eternum said:

and them flipping village doesn't exactly end the game

While true, we need some kind of roleblock or protection to go through during the night if SfS is somehow village.

[Eternum he/him]

2 hours ago, Araris Valerian said:

SfS.

While true, we need some kind of roleblock or protection to go through during the night if SfS is somehow village.

Okay, but look at it like this. If it's 6-2 right now, then 5-2 after day assuming SfS is village, 4-2 after elim kill. If it's 5-3 right now then it's 5-2 after removing SfS because 3 elims would essentially guarantee him being elim, 4-2 after elim kill. So, no, we're not going to lose this night if a mislynch happens.

Edited December 26, 2020 by Eternum

[+Lotus she/her]

Sigh. I’ll come out and say I have Shalash’s honorblade. 

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

Ok, I can't defend myself if nobody brings up any points. Tell me the things against me, and I'll defend myself. One of the major points against me just got proven wrong (that I didn't bandwagon on Connie because we were both Elims), so that's one down. Tell me the others so I can defend myself.

[STINK he/him]

cannot believe I got an honourblade worth using and its yoinked from me

[Araris Valerian he/him]

2 hours ago, Somebody from Sel said:

Ok, I can't defend myself if nobody brings up any points. Tell me the things against me, and I'll defend myself. One of the major points against me just got proven wrong (that I didn't bandwagon on Connie because we were both Elims), so that's one down. Tell me the others so I can defend myself.

At this point it’s more that there are very few players that possibly could be elims, and you are one of them. You haven’t been actively trying to solve the game, and you didn’t have any significant interactions with the neutral players, which is why I think Eternum and probably STINK are village. My advice for the future would be that the best defense is SE is a good offense (or a village only role).

Doriyah is in a pretty similar spot, but will almost certainly be removed by the filter, so there is no point in lynching him.

8 hours ago, Eternum said:

Okay, but look at it like this. If it's 6-2 right now, then 5-2 after day assuming SfS is village, 4-2 after elim kill. If it's 5-3 right now then it's 5-2 after removing SfS because 3 elims would essentially guarantee him being elim, 4-2 after elim kill. So, no, we're not going to lose this night if a mislynch happens.

I have SfS, Doriyah, Lotus, and Mist as possible elims. So yeah, I guess you’re right about this.

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

Just now, Araris Valerian said:

At this point it’s more that there are very few players that possibly could be elims, and you are one of them. You haven’t been actively trying to solve the game, and you didn’t have any significant interactions with the neutral players, which is why I think Eternum and probably STINK are village. My advice for the future would be that the best defense is SE is a good offense (or a village only role).

Doriyah is in a pretty similar spot, but will almost certainly be removed by the filter, so there is no point in lynching him.

I have SfS, Doriyah, Lotus, and Mist as possible elims. So yeah, I guess you’re right about this.

I'm fine with dying as it doesn't end the game. Since I know I'm not an Elim, that means the Elims will lose one next day cycle. Then they'll likely lose one the night after that.

Oh, and I can't be an Elim with Doriyah, as the Elims couldn't have killed anyone last cycle, since I've been gone since Tuesday.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

16 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

I'm fine with dying as it doesn't end the game. Since I know I'm not an Elim, that means the Elims will lose one next day cycle. Then they'll likely lose one the night after that.

Oh, and I can't be an Elim with Doriyah, as the Elims couldn't have killed anyone last cycle, since I've been gone since Tuesday.

I'm leaning toward 3 elims left, since both Neutral players had goals that hurt the elim team. So you and Doriyah could be elims with a more active third member.

[Eternum he/him]

Neither of the neutrals really hurt the elim team, I think, but 3 elims could very well be true, and it's better to assume that, imo, so we don't screw up too badly.

55 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

Doriyah is in a pretty similar spot, but will almost certainly be removed by the filter, so there is no point in lynching him.

I have SfS, Doriyah, Lotus, and Mist as possible elims. So yeah, I guess you’re right about this.

I think he'll be removed on the next day, which might actually be bad for us since I'm fairly certain he's village, considering he started with a blade. No matter, though, I think we'll be alright anyway.

I'm pretty certain everyone out of SfS, Lotus and Mist is elim, and if they aren't all elim then.. well, we either lose with 3 left or have a decent chance with two left.

6 hours ago, Lotus said:

Sigh. I’ll come out and say I have Shalash’s honorblade. 

Does this help the village in any way, shape or form?

[+Lotus she/her]

1 hour ago, Eternum said:

Does this help the village in any way, shape or form?

Not really. I can see who has a honorblade, but at this point in the game, I’d bet everyone has one