The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 40 minutes ago, Illwei said: Note to self: Pyro has been dabbling in the Illegals. Coercion user N1? Hmm... Nope. Just got very unlucky on my first go. Didn't even get anything good either. 22 minutes ago, Illwei said: Hmmmm, well, just, I taste nothing reading your posts. I hear things reading other people's posts, just not yours. or most of Mint's. You're judging your reads on synesthesia? I've never heard of that before. That's brilliant!
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Lotus said: So, one or two Elims to go? Maybe three? That would be a lot though. I- I think maybe 1 or two is realistic...not- er, not three...
Mat he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 28 minutes ago, Lotus said: So, one or two Elims to go? Maybe three? That would be a lot though. 4 minutes ago, Illwei said: I- I think maybe 1 or two is realistic...not- er, not three... Might be misdirection. But that's probably reaching. 37 minutes ago, Illwei said: Hmmmm, well, just, I taste nothing reading your posts. I hear things reading other people's posts, just not yours. or most of Mint's. Is this a good thing though... maybe it makes me harder to read. Which could be useful, I guess? 1
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: Might be misdirection. But that's probably reaching. Ah. yes, lotus and I are indeed Elims together, and we have a third remaining partner, so we organized this to throw you off :P. It seems to have not worked. what a shame. I mean 15 people started the game, and...uh...25%of 15 is...uh... 3 and some? 3 would be a fifth... 5 would be a third...So I guess 4 maybe? does having align scans and Extra kills change the distribution at all? like maybe 4 or 5 elims because of alignment scans, or 3 or 4 elims because of the extra kill? so Would three more elims actually be realistic? because thats kinda a scary thought. Is me thinking about this completely pointless? Probably. anyways- also Matrim, has there been 0 talk whatsoever in your existing PM? or did they text you first and say they set it up?
Mat he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Illwei said: Ah. yes, lotus and I are indeed Elims together, and we have a third remaining partner, so we organized this to throw you off :P. It seems to have not worked. what a shame. I meant just Lotus, and quoted you so you'd see :P. 3 minutes ago, Illwei said: I mean 15 people started the game, and...uh...25%of 15 is...uh... 3 and some? 3 would be a fifth... 5 would be a third...So I guess 4 maybe? does having align scans and Extra kills change the distribution at all? like maybe 4 or 5 elims because of alignment scans, or 3 or 4 elims because of the extra kill? so Would three more elims actually be realistic? because thats kinda a scary thought. Is me thinking about this completely pointless? Probably. I still stand by four elims. Elk seems to think there's three, though. 3 minutes ago, Illwei said: also Matrim, has there been 0 talk whatsoever in your existing PM? or did they text you first and say they set it up? I was not the one to set it up, as my PM action was put on TJ who then died, but the person who targeted me with their PM action has not said anything in the PM that it created.
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Matrim's Dice said: I meant just Lotus, and quoted you so you'd see :P. I was not the one to set it up, as my PM action was put on TJ who then died, but the person who targeted me with their PM action has not said anything in the PM that it created. Oh Okay, yeah. I was also thinking that, I just thought you meant I was also doing it. Then maybe the reason that they are hesitant to talk in it is because they are not the one who created it. If they were, then- then idk that's a big coinky dink
Mat he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Illwei said: Then maybe the reason that they are hesitant to talk in it is because they are not the one who created it. If they were, then- then idk that's a big coinky dink I have good reason to believe they created it. And I'm decently sure why they didn't speak in it last turn. But I won't say anymore I just brought it up so they didn't forget it existed. What's the point of a silent PM?
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said: I have good reason to believe they created it. And I'm decently sure why they didn't speak in it last turn. But I won't say anymore I just brought it up so they didn't forget it existed. What's the point of a silent PM? I apologize for bringing it up, and I also have an idea why they might not have spoken in it last turn. if they see this then hopefully all will be cleared up. EDIT: I also just had a third idea that I can't say that might explain something else, but I guess if I die then I can write it down in the Spec doc EDIT EDIT: that was completely useless of me to say. wow. okay, and I also don't know why I wrote "third" idea. anyways- Edited September 7, 2020 by Illwei
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Matrim's Dice said: I have good reason to believe they created it. And I'm decently sure why they didn't speak in it last turn. But I won't say anymore I just brought it up so they didn't forget it existed. What's the point of a silent PM? Ah, I get your meaning. In other news, since I don't want to reveal which thing I got from the illegal table (even though it's pretty bad), could people list what they would do if they had gotten it for each item of the table? It's a bit much to ask, I know, but I don't want to waste this.
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: In other news, since I don't want to reveal which thing I got from the illegal table (even though it's pretty bad), could people list what they would do if they had gotten it for each item of the table? It's a bit much to ask, I know, but I don't want to waste this. I mean, uh...Shouldn't you just...trust? yourself? I mean...are you trying to get a consensus from the village on your action? if you weren't sure that you wanted something why would you pick from T3 in the first place? Use your action on who you think you should use it on?
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) I'm trying to get advice. EDIT: Sometimes I need someone to tell me what to do before I can decide whether I agree or not. Edited September 7, 2020 by The Young Pyromancer
Mat he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Young Pyromancer said: I'm trying to get advice. EDIT: Sometimes I need someone to tell me what to do before I can decide whether I agree or not. What I would do if I got a passion from Table III: Passion of Passion: Choose sabotage and target my top suspect Passion of Survival: For me, right now, I wouldn't use this, as I'm hoping for protection. If I wasn't cleared, target my top suspect Passion of Sabotage: Target my top suspect Passion of Narcotics: Isn't much to choose on this one Passion of Coercion: Either force an ally to take from safety or force a suspect to take from illegal stuff. Probably the second one. Passion of Violence: Either target my top suspect, or don't take an action. Depends on what I'm feeling 2 seconds before rollover. 1
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Matrim's Dice said: What I would do if I got a passion from Table III: Passion of Passion: Choose sabotage and target my top suspect Passion of Survival: For me, right now, I wouldn't use this, as I'm hoping for protection. If I wasn't cleared, target my top suspect Passion of Sabotage: Target my top suspect Passion of Narcotics: Isn't much to choose on this one Passion of Coercion: Either force an ally to take from safety or force a suspect to take from illegal stuff. Probably the second one. Passion of Violence: Either target my top suspect, or don't take an action. Depends on what I'm feeling 2 seconds before rollover. Thanks. Who do you mean by your top suspect?
Mat he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Thanks. Who do you mean by your top suspect? ...Whoever I am suspicious of? You mean specifically? I worded it that way so I wouldn't have to mention who I'd likely target with whatever aggressive actions I receive in the future. Though 'top suspect' varies depending on the action. There are people I'd roleblock that I wouldn't feel good about killing. 1
+Lotus she/her Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Man I wished we had access to PMs...
Zillah she/her Posted September 7, 2020 Author Posted September 7, 2020 Due to family circumstances the cycle will close an hour later than planned.
Elkanah he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 16 hours ago, The Young Pyromancer said: Ah, I get your meaning. In other news, since I don't want to reveal which thing I got from the illegal table (even though it's pretty bad), could people list what they would do if they had gotten it for each item of the table? It's a bit much to ask, I know, but I don't want to waste this. Ooh I'll do one too! Passion - This depends on your risk level. Given you chose to do illegal things, your risk tolerance is decently high so Narcotics is the best decision. If your risk tolerance has already been maxed simply by choosing to do illegal things, you can get off scott free by choosing survival. If you are in the middle, Sabotage and Coercion are more or less the same thing if you don't have an idea of who is bad. Coercion is definitely the funnier of the two and Sabotage is the more powerful because it's the only way to block an elim kill. Sooo. If you have a strong suspicion, use the role block. If you are afraid of dying, use survival. Otherwise I recommend Narcotics. (and I know where you can get them). Survival - Redirect to your strongest suspicion. That will point seers and kills headed for you to them. Double whammy. Sabotage - Block your strongest suspicion. If you're lucky you stop the kill and we lynch them. Narcotics - Wheeeee! Coercion - Force your strongest suspicion to choose illegal stuff hoping they get blocked. @Zillah, Can someone who is caught submit the elim kill? Violence - Roll a D10!!! or just kill your top suspect 1
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) @The Young Pyromancer Passion: I'd pick Survival and redirect actions to a top suspicion Survival: I'd redirect actions to my top suspicion Sabotage: Target my top suspect Coercion: I'd probably make someone I don't completely trust pick from table 1, as I don't want to potentially give an elim an extra kill or roleblock, or votes, and I don't want to change the strategy of someone if I trust them. Or maybe I'd give an Elim Table 2, because most likely they'd get a PM, and I mean, that seems to be the least impactful thing. possibly. I don't know. I'm not being very helpful. Violence: I'd probably use it on my top suspect. If you're willing to keep a vote on someone during the day, then I mean...Idk...I don't know, I'm not helpful. Unrelatedly, @Elkanah ? Edited September 7, 2020 by Illwei 1
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Illwei said: Unrelatedly, @Elkanah ? ...why?
Elkanah he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, Illwei said: Unrelatedly, @Elkanah ? yes?
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 Just now, Elkanah said: yes? Oh, Nvm. *sighs* I'm just- nevermind. 1
Illwei Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 I- well, no, also because with a d10 you'd be including yourself in possible kills, but- It was completely unrelated to that. but- uh, no. yeah, no. 1
The Young Pyromancer he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 K, thanks for all the advice. Here's hoping I picked the right target! 1
Elkanah he/him Posted September 7, 2020 Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Illwei said: Coercion: I'd probably make someone I don't completely trust pick from table 1, as I don't want to potentially give an elim an extra kill or roleblock, or votes, and I don't want to change the strategy of someone if I trust them. Or maybe I'd give an Elim Table 2, because most likely they'd get a PM, and I mean, that seems to be the least impactful thing. possibly. I don't know. I'm not being very helpful. I admit you make a strong point here. Potentially giving the elims two kills is not great... My only rebuttal is that I think there is only one more elim. Therefore the maximum number of kills available is one. It'd be interesting if they used the passion of violence instead of whatever their own kill was called. Although I fear it is just the passion of violence that they serve. They tend to serve the slaughter after all. Edit: To clarify: if there is only one eliminator left, It doesn't matter what passion they get. They will use their kill no matter what. Edited September 7, 2020 by Elkanah
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