Long Game 64: Choose Your Own Sanderson Adventure!

[The_God_King]

43 minutes ago, Straw said:

BTW, has anyone solved Elkanah's code?

It was just him throwing part of my code back into the mix. It didn’t read out to anything because where he chose to copy from was from the middle of one of the ASCII conversions if we removed the bad numbers at the start it would just repeat part of something I said 

[little wilson she/her]

2 hours ago, EXPERIENCE said:

Is there also a two vote minimum to capture a player?

Yes.

[Kidpen he/him]

Elandera(1): The_God_King
Kynedath(1): Fifth
Sart(1): xino
Coda(1): Sart

6 hours until the end and we have 4 different votes on 4 different people. Obviously this is an undesirable situation. It seems to me that locking someone up is not at all helpful, we get no information from it. With that in mind, I'm going to vote for Sart. I don't think Coda's codes are alignment indicative, and I dislike Sarts vote on him. Plus to me it feels likely that an elim might want to divide the vote even further by voting for someone not already being voted for.

That being said I do understand the feeling of being desperate to vote on someone, and I'd very much like a lynching rather than a locking up this cycle, so if one of the other candidates gets another vote I might move to them.

[Elkanah he/him]

17 hours ago, StrikerEZ said:

@The_God_King@Coda@Elkanah I'm sorry that I made you guys feel like you couldn't do the codes. I think it's fine if you do them! I was just getting a little frustrated because I am bad at breaking codes and they hurt my brain when I try to do them.

I don't have much else to say. I think Coda's right that this is basically their normal style of play, so I probably won't be voting on them for it.

Don't worry about it . I'll save you some time, Straw. I just copied the second half of the numbers The God King posted to make him think I had gone one step deeper . It actually is gibberish. 

I do disagree with your earlier post though, Striker. I find that while eliminators may have more drive to play the game, the commitment to the doc lowers the amount of time they can spend on codes by at least as much.

For now I'll place a vote on... *Spins a wheel* *gets Elandera and spins again*... Xinoehp

This will almost certainly change, but I'd prefer someone go to jail than get lynched.

 

I'm sorry, I wrote this 13 hours ago and apparently it wouldn't send because I used an emoticon (especially sorry to Straw)

[Experience he/him]

@Kidpen You missed my vote on coda I think. Also, I agree that a capture will do almost nothing to help us, because we don't learn the players role or alignment. 

Edited April 1, 2020 by EXPERIENCE

[StrikerEZ he/him]

14 minutes ago, Elkanah said:

I do disagree with your earlier post though, Striker. I find that while eliminators may have more drive to play the game, the commitment to the doc lowers the amount of time they can spend on codes by at least as much.

I mean, the doc is a big commitment of time, but I feel like the amount of time a player wants to put into the entire game is usually higher when they're an elim. And that amount of time isn't going to be spent solely on talking with their teammates in the doc. Plus, if an elim wants info from from a villager about their role, checking the secret codes they're sending to each other might be a good place to start without having to leave a trace of their search for info through PMs. I don't think there's anything wrong with doing the codes, just this is a possibility you have to be aware of when doing it. It does make it easier for the elims to get information that you want secret from them, but the elims are already trying to get information anyway, so the extra work isn't really gonna deter them I think.

18 minutes ago, Elkanah said:

For now I'll place a vote on... *Spins a wheel* *gets Elandera and spins again*... Xinoehp

This will almost certainly change, but I'd prefer someone go to jail than get lynched.

Personally, I think I'd rather just lynch someone. I've been on the fence about it most of the cycle, but I think I just want the info from having at least one person's role and alignment revealed. Plus, actually putting pressure on someone give us some info from other players with their thoughts about it. 

Speaking of which, I think I'm going to vote on Sart because I don't like the way he voted for Coda. It feels...odd to me? Mostly because I realized that I'd been kinda getting the same vibe from Coda he was until I remembered that this is basically how Coda always plays. Which Sart should know by now.

22 minutes ago, Elkanah said:

I'm sorry, I wrote this 13 hours ago and apparently it wouldn't send because I used an emoticon (especially sorry to Straw)

@Straw Oof.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Elandera(1): The_God_King
Kynedath(1): Fifth
Sart(3): xino, Kidpen, Striker
Coda(2): Sart, Experience
Xino(1);Elkanah
Elkanah(1):Joe Bush

At this point, there's been enough discussion that we don't need any more RNG votes, so I'm voting for Elkanah.

Also, if you are posting a Vote count, and make or change a vote in the same post, please have your vote included in that vote count.

Edited April 1, 2020 by A Joe in the Bush

[Experience he/him]

@A Joe in the Bush, you also forgot my vote on coda. And why does it show 1 for sart?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

apologies, I based it off of Kidpen's, who apparently also missed it.

[Guest Coda]

Do we want a lynch or an imprisonment? If we want an imprisonment, then leave the votes where they lie. If we want a lynch, RNG votes should be moved to Sart or myself. I will vote for Sart because I want a lynch.

[The_God_King]

This Sart bandwagon feels way off. The reasoning is generally bad. I understand choosing someone to lynch but maybe say that instead of pretending to lynch to protect someone 

[Guest Coda]

All reasoning is mostly guesswork on D1. Sart currently has the most votes, and I want a lynch so we can evaluate. A lock-up gets us nothing D1. Even if the Sart bandwagon is suspicious, we can't get enough people on anyone else but me at the moment, and I don't want to die.

[Elandera she/her]

18 minutes ago, Coda said:

All reasoning is mostly guesswork on D1. Sart currently has the most votes, and I want a lynch so we can evaluate. A lock-up gets us nothing D1. Even if the Sart bandwagon is suspicious, we can't get enough people on anyone else but me at the moment, and I don't want to die.

Even a lockup D1 can indicate possible alliances in the future, so it's not totally useless. And it would allow a player to still be involved beyond day one. I do understand the hesitance though, with lack of information learned immediately. 

The Sart lynch doesn't feel right to me. More than one person at least talked about voting as a result of the codes in the thread, so why should someone who actually acted be the one to take the fall? 

I'll vote on Elkanah. I agree it's too late for true RNG. It feels like a way to vote without being blamed for the outcome. 

 

[Elkanah he/him]

17 hours ago, Kidpen said:

Did I miss something specifying what information is released if someone is locked up and how much if they are lynched? Cause I didn't see it specified in the rules, although I thought I remembered someone saying that all roles and alignment are revealed in either case.

Other question. Do you guys think we should be using our pm abilities as much as possible, or as little as possible, or only when we actually want to communicate with someone? Any elims might be covered if we all started making PMs, but also any power roles for the village would be.

Last thing, maybe we should tell each of our starting pm people who the other is? I feel like that could provide useful information, although I may be forgetting something.

Information is not released unless we actually kill someone.

I like PMs. I wouldn't trust what people are saying in PMs because information is worth what you pay for it, but I'd say if you have an action that you're not sure will help the village, make a PM instead. I recommend that to the role-blockers for night one anyway. 

This is a good question that I don't have a good answer to. I err on the side of sharing too much information, so I'm completely open to it, but I'm fairly certain neither of the people I have PMs with would want me sharing anything about them.

7 minutes ago, Elandera said:

Even a lockup D1 can indicate possible alliances in the future, so it's not totally useless. And it would allow a player to still be involved beyond day one. I do understand the hesitance though, with lack of information learned immediately. 

The Sart lynch doesn't feel right to me. More than one person at least talked about voting as a result of the codes in the thread, so why should someone who actually acted be the one to take the fall? 

I'll vote on Elkanah. I agree it's too late for true RNG. It feels like a way to vote without being blamed for the outcome. 

I'd also prefer to jail people than lynch them. I'll vote for Xinoehp Elandera for jumping on a bandwagon . Sart voting for people making codes is a normal thing for Sart to do and therefore not an indicator and even less a reason to kill him.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Well now I'm even more suspicious of Elkanah. You're voting for someone who added a second vote to you, with actual reasoning, rather than someone who added a third or later vote to someone else. You're accusing Elandera of Bandwagoning (She's not) while ignoring the actual bandwagoners.

[Elkanah he/him]

2 minutes ago, A Joe in the Bush said:

Well now I'm even more suspicious of Elkanah. You're voting for someone who added a second vote to you, with actual reasoning, rather than someone who added a third or later vote to someone else. You're accusing Elandera of Bandwagoning (She's not) while ignoring the actual bandwagoners.

haha what will you do? vote for me? I was being satirical by voting on her for something I was doing at the time. I have no desire to lynch anyone so as long as my vote is on a person who isn't in the lead, I'm not too concerned who it's on.

[The_God_King]

24 minutes ago, Elkanah said:

I'd also prefer to jail people than lynch them. I'll vote for Xinoehp Elandera for jumping on a bandwagon . Sart voting for people making codes is a normal thing for Sart to do and therefore not an indicator and even less a reason to kill him.

@A Joe in the Bushsarcasm is a fickle matter. I don’t think anything serious was meant by this.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Well, I wasn’t expecting my vote to cause all of this. I’m certainly glad it caused a good amount of discussion though!

I wasn’t voting on Sart because he voted on Coda for doing the code stuff. I think I remember part of his reasoning being that Coda seemed to not really be putting any effort into the game, which is the vibe they kinda put off sometimes. There’s nothing wrong with that, they just don’t have as much to say. And I feel like Sart would probably know Coda enough to know that, but I don’t know how much he’s played with them.

Anyway, I’m leaving my vote on Sart.

[Guest Coda]

Sart and I have played a few games together, though I don't think either of us left a lasting impression on the other. He probably doesn't remember me well enough to recall my modus operandi. However, as I am a contender for dying, I will leave my vote on Sart until someone else surpasses me in votes.

Also, apologies for the following:

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[xinoehp512 he/him]

Elandera(2): The_God_King, Elkanah
Kynedath(1): Fifth
Sart(3): xino Kidpen, Striker, Coda
Coda(2): Sart, Experience
Xino(0); Elkanah
Elkanah(3):Joe Bush, Elandera, xino

Currently there are eleven votes, so no one's getting killed. I'm swinging back on forth on whether or not that's a good thing.

Sart has posted, so my poke vote is now obsolete. I don't really agree with the lynch on Sart, personally. I don't think Coda is suspicious, but I can see where he's coming from.

Elkanah, on the other hand...

1 hour ago, Elkanah said:

I'd also prefer to jail people than lynch them. I'll vote for Xinoehp Elandera for jumping on a bandwagon . Sart voting for people making codes is a normal thing for Sart to do and therefore not an indicator and even less a reason to kill him.

Reading this post (without context, at least) makes it sound like Elandera voted for Sart and you're voting on her for that. Except that you're agreeing with her. Shouldn't you be voting on someone who bandwagoned on Sart, not yourself? 

[Experience he/him]

My opinion is that a lynch vote will help us the most, so I'm going to move my vote on to Elkanah.

[Elkanah he/him]

25 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

Elkanah, on the other hand...

Reading this post (without context, at least) makes it sound like Elandera voted for Sart and you're voting on her for that. Except that you're agreeing with her. Shouldn't you be voting on someone who bandwagoned on Sart, not yourself? 

No, Elandera voted on me. I'm just returning the vote as a joke as I didn't think either of the two would matter.

Edited April 1, 2020 by Elkanah
clarity

[xinoehp512 he/him]

Just now, Elkanah said:

No, Elandera voted on me. I'm just returning the vote as I didn't think either of the two would matter.

Generally speaking, voting on someone because they voted on you is considered an elim thing to do.

[The_God_King]

Hm got to love a good bandwagon! Oh wait. This one is actually just as bad. I’ll enjoy seeing how this “information” gives any of you actual insight into who is an elim. It looks like there may be some information in the people too willing to kill someone for the sin of voting on a bandwagon, which all of you did. Let’s see what happens! 

Just now, xinoehp512 said:

Generally speaking, voting on someone because they voted on you is considered an elim thing to do.

It’s day one. There is literally no other reason to vote on someone 

[Elkanah he/him]

3 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

Generally speaking, voting on someone because they voted on you is considered an elim thing to do.

I think you're just mad I voted for you earlier