Long Game 64: Choose Your Own Sanderson Adventure!

[Experience he/him]

So I looked through all of the votes so far, and Coda is the most suspicious out of those already voted for at the moment. 

Coda. Pretty much all of your posts has been codes. Your first non-code post said that you agreed with everything, which is sort of suspicious. Also, when sart gave his reasoning for voting you, you then said that you support not revealing PM's, which could also be a way to avoid harm. I'm pretty sure this won't kill you coda, but these are my thoughts.

@Elbereth It says that there is a two vote minimum. Does that mean that 50% of all 2+ votes are required to kill, or 50% of all lynch votes?

[Experience he/him]

Oh, wow. I guess I'm used to the QF format, because for some reason I thought that the turn ended today. Well, at least the extra time will give me time to better sort my thoughts about everyone. 

[Guest Coda]

I do apologize for the codes. Consider them a PM between TGK and myself, and therefore of no use to any of you. They have nothing of importance as of yet. No one has said that I actively disagree with, so I agree with everything. PMs can remain secret. Just a side note, ambivalence is my customary playstyle, so I do not think it is indicative of my alignment. If the players want to kill me, then let my death be a worthy one and the write-up be magnificent.

[The_God_King]

With the general consensus of people disliking the code I will stop using them. This is a tad frustrating as every game has elements that players disagree with and I personally kept rather quiet. I have also participated (outside of code) more than most players so I considered the code a bit of RP. Too be frank, if the code was easily crackable it would first be worthless and be redundant, but the people have spoke and I will stop. 

2 hours ago, Fifth Scholar said:

We need more votes than God King’s poke on Elandera anyway, particularly since that vote seems somewhat illegitimate given that its target has already provided two thoughtful posts. 

this wasn’t a poke it was an RNG vote. I have literally seen this done most games I have played so it’s not a foreign concept. I also plan on keeping it to avoid a majority. I believe we should jail people not kill them for the first day.
 

to follow up day 1 is always a dumpster fire of sorts. Everyone has 0 information except the elims so no information is trustable. I have enjoyed the conversation about revealing our PMs even if I’m adamantly opposed. Usually I stay quiet day 1 but I thought I could try to have a little fun and build a bit of a character. Oh well

13 minutes ago, Coda said:

then let my death be a worthy one and the write-up be magnificent.

A wish worthy of the greatest warriors!

[Elbereth she/her]

1 hour ago, Shqueeves said:

Elandera(1): The_God_King
Kynedath(1): Fifth
Sart(1): xino
Coda(1): Sart

Locking someone up over lynching them seems to have minimal benefit. IDK if it was already answered, but are prisoners exempted from death by failure to create PMs? If not, then it's just a slow death vs an immediate one, unless a jail-breaker gets themselves involved

Yes. Prisoners will not be killed for their inability to create PMs. 

33 minutes ago, EXPERIENCE said:

 

@Elbereth It says that there is a two vote minimum. Does that mean that 50% of all 2+ votes are required to kill, or 50% of all lynch votes?

50% of all lynch votes are required to kill; at least two votes on the leading candidate are required to lynch at all. 

[Ironfire he/him]

The_God_King or Coda, do you guys mind telling us the key to your code if you are going to stop using them and claim that the information is "no use to any of you"?

Edit: also, how do I ping? Because sometimes the menu shows up, and sometimes it does not.

Edited April 1, 2020 by Ironfire

[Guest Coda]

It's in ASCII.

[Straw he/him]

Just now, Ironfire said:

The_God_King or Coda, do you guys mind telling us the key to your code if you are going to stop using them and claim that the information is "no use to any of you"?

Edit: also, how do I ping? Because sometimes the menu shows up, and sometimes it does not.

Most of the codes are just a vigenere cipher with the key LIBRARIAN. Some are converted to ASCII. I'll post a list of all the ones I've decoded in a second.

[Ironfire he/him]

Wow, ok, I wasn't surprised by Caesar, but vigenere? Did anyone do a hill cipher yet, I want to see someone decode that.

[The_God_King]

10 minutes ago, Ironfire said:

Edit: also, how do I ping? Because sometimes the menu shows up, and sometimes it does not.

Sometimes it takes a bit of time. Sometimes you have to play around after you type @

[Straw he/him]

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Straw:

zZzzZZZz zZZzzzZZ zzZZzZZz

Lbh ner abg zr. Ubcrshyyl, guvf jnf boivbhf.

These were my codes. The top one is just binary. It translates to Nc6, which is a chess move.

The bottom code is ROT13. It says: "You are not me. Hopefully, this way obvious."

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The_God_King:

V nz qrsvavgryl abg lbh. Rawbl guvf pbqr

ROT13. Translation: "I am definitely not you. Enjoy this code".

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Coda:

Tn zfu bvoj epf bep, goh siwv dzacbgmsvd dg rbwm. Svsgwnq hquy tym snxm lvy kw vrcqgp yfcr vomokikg.

Vigenere cipher with LIBRARIAN key. Translation: "If you know the key, you have discovered my role. Respond with the same key to verify your identity."

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The_God_King:

"Kwzgcb!" W qozzsr cih ouowb obr ouowb 'Kwzgcb!". O gsqifwhm uiofr qoas fibbwbu zccywbu jsfm qcbtigsr, "Kvm ofs mci qozzwbu cih Kwzgcb?". W zccysr oh vwa zwys vs kog o tccz. vck qcizr vs bch ybck? W'a qozzwbu cih hc o ucr ct hvwg kcfzr. Kvoh ksfs hvsm hsoqvwbu hvwg usbsfohwcb…

ROT14. Translation: ""Wilson!" I called out again and again 'Wilson!". A security guard came running looking very confused, "Why are you calling out Wilson?". I looked at him like he was a fool. how could he not know? I'm calling out to a god of this world. What were they teaching this generation…"

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Coda:

Lzf pol wn zj ajue, Xwd Xtvh?

Vigenere. Translation: “Are you on my side, God King?”

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The_God_King

Epjj ij deej qokeimsgtvh. Z fzvd lzcs krlat n mqu fpvv bhe i ozcv khnyof ff gicr. T apcvvl tuta griity dfqdblp inq lv Fcid qs ccwcrbcg nbe nbi bvpiao. Gpl crv tefau de zn ybf ebet rvd gsqt nict pezdf r vrtunmtf thrvnrw wg znwwrzlbjfn. Diy gsm pudj je vy wvi frdoe!

Vigenere. Translation: “This is very interesting. I find your trust a bit open but a nice change of pace. I solved this fairly quickly and an Elim is probably not far behind. You can trust me if you want and this will prove a valuable channel of information. May the odds be in our favor!”

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Coda:

T avxgvat n AU bed r aepzverrp talpz pw eekrlabjfn.

Vigenere. Translation: "I suggest a PM and a secondary layer of encryption."

I'll type up the others in a second. I don't want to go over the post length limit.

[Straw he/him]

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The_God_King:

087103118032106098120109116032103119097114063

xx xxu qsvr ijndbuw lri ed tnxo

Top is ASCII, when decoded from ASCII it becomes: “Wgv jbxmt gwar?”

I haven't been able to decode this result or the text below it. I do have some theories though.

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Coda:

088032108103114110116032065032103098105032097115044032107117099032111104110105032111122098032116113119032115114114103109109032113100119115103120103109032099104110032102117122113119113098032100110117111113116118032115120063

Decoded from ASCII: "X lgrnt A gbi as, kuc ohni ozb tqw srrgmm qdwsgxgm chn fuzqwqb dnuoqtv sx?"

Once again, I haven't been able to decode this one.

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The_God_King:

084032101098106032097106115105097114032113103032122116032110119114120112108046032088121105116112032105032103115113111098032105107032108105113033032089119120032110101032116105110032110110098118114108099103032116110119115032099108116032106105100121106032113032101102110039107032098104118121115032106032121097109109032097097106098105122110120032098111032102108103032098107032116121109032109098120109111107

This one is ASCII and then just a LIBRARIAN keyed vigenere. Translation is: "I was asking if it worked. which I think it did! Now we can actually talk but sadly I don’t think I have anything to say at the moment."

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Elkanah:

02110039107032098104118121115032106032121097109109032097097106098105122110120032098111032102108103032098107032116121109032109098120109111107

Translates to nonsense. It's probably just a substitution cipher, but I haven't gotten around to decoding it.

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Coda:

084032112098109101032117113115112122100102105101117032098104114032116108102101116122098121032098113032105111102116121109114032098113032119118105032107122118100046032074112032118102118100032114032088077032111112098120118101101032103111104032108118101032107104122097032112114099097112101032097101108032109114032108118101032112111108046032075111113112097032098105101032107119111032114108097106099121032121105099120112108046013010

Same as Coda's code above. Translation: "I have discovered the identity of another of our kind. We need a PM between you and this person and me and you. Codes are too easily hacked."

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The_God_King:

108111115118101117044032117097120112032105032081068032119122098104032122112032098112101105120112116032110121108032106032110105099116032109110118109032117121101032103117032119118101112032117121101032102098104114099032120102105115102118032116098120119115105111110

Same as above. Translation: "Agreed, make a PM with me tonight and I will make the PM with the other person tomorrow."

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Coda:

068113111116101032101119032111097112032097102118109106032113110103112122102106116118108032105097032116118116103101116098105097114032119118105032099102108101044032086032113109102099032115114110101032118121032122102109101114116105097114032098105118032105117109110103116098122032102102032107112101032098101112102105032112118122115098121046032081103032112111108032105103101112109044074032110105099116032115117108122102032107104122097032112114099097112101032119122098104032108122099032098101100032112119117032112108118032110114107118032098104114032065085032117102110122111104103046013010

Same as above. Translation is: "Since no one seems interested in inspecting our code, I feel safe in revealing the identity of the other person. If you agree I will share this person with you and make the PM tonight."

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Coda:

069112102032102116121109114032120121119120101032108122106114110099113098101032105106032082111114032116118032098032083117106112046032065101112032105111112032111119032103111104099032088078106032097099113118114032108118101032121101099120102104119063

Same as above. Translation is: "The other known librarian is Joe in a Bush. Are any of your PMs alive and helpful?"

I believe that is all the codes. I will work on figuring out the ones that I haven't been able to translate yet.

Edited April 1, 2020 by Straw

[StrikerEZ he/him]

@The_God_King@Coda@Elkanah I'm sorry that I made you guys feel like you couldn't do the codes. I think it's fine if you do them! I was just getting a little frustrated because I am bad at breaking codes and they hurt my brain when I try to do them.

I don't have much else to say. I think Coda's right that this is basically their normal style of play, so I probably won't be voting on them for it.

[Ironfire he/him]

So do Joe and Coda have a PM?

Might as well say that for anyone who doesn't want to read all that codebreaking.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Yeah, I started with a PM with Coda. I haven't really been bothering with codes though.

[Guest Coda]

For future notice, some of the codes were encoded by performing the decoding process on the plaintext instead of the encoding process.

[The_God_King]

7 minutes ago, Coda said:

For future notice, some of the codes were encoded by performing the decoding process on the plaintext instead of the encoding process.

Yep, some of them were done backwards. It took me a bit to figure the first one out

[Straw he/him]

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The_God_King:

087103118032106098120109116032103119097114063

xx xxu qsvr ijndbuw lri ed tnxo

Top translates to: "How about this?"

Bottom translates to: "If you have trouble let me know"

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Coda:

088032108103114110116032065032103098105032097115044032107117099032111104110105032111122098032116113119032115114114103109109032113100119115103120103109032099104110032102117122113119113098032100110117111113116118032115120063

Translates to: "I think I got it, but what was the second question the numbers decode to?"

EDIT:

@The_God_King what method did you use to decode the first message?

Edited April 1, 2020 by Straw

[The_God_King]

26 minutes ago, Straw said:

what method did you use to decode the first message?

For yours I’d seen that type of code work so it was trial and error. For Coda’s I got really lucky. I guessed the type of code (I figured it wasn’t Caesar) and threw in a couple key words (like Sanderson and, werewolf). I almost gave up and would’ve been done but I got lucky. I never figured out your binary. I initially thought it was a key but quickly gave up on that.

 

the reverse code threw me at first

Edited April 1, 2020 by The_God_King

[Straw he/him]

1 minute ago, The_God_King said:

For yours I’d seen that type of code work so it was trial and error. For Coda’s I got really lucky. I guessed the type of code (I figured it wasn’t Caesar) and threw in a couple key words (like Sanderson and, werewolf). I almost gave up and would’ve been done but I got lucky. I never figured out your binary. I initially thought it was a key but quickly gave up on that.

 

the reverse code threw me at first

Huh, for Coda's I just guessed the code type by eliminating possibilities and then choosing the most likely one. I ended up making a program to solve it using frequency analysis.

I couldn't get the reversed ones until Coda mentioned they were reversed.

[Kidpen he/him]

Did I miss something specifying what information is released if someone is locked up and how much if they are lynched? Cause I didn't see it specified in the rules, although I thought I remembered someone saying that all roles and alignment are revealed in either case.

Other question. Do you guys think we should be using our pm abilities as much as possible, or as little as possible, or only when we actually want to communicate with someone? Any elims might be covered if we all started making PMs, but also any power roles for the village would be.

Last thing, maybe we should tell each of our starting pm people who the other is? I feel like that could provide useful information, although I may be forgetting something.

 

[Elbereth she/her]

26 minutes ago, Kidpen said:

Did I miss something specifying what information is released if someone is locked up and how much if they are lynched? Cause I didn't see it specified in the rules, although I thought I remembered someone saying that all roles and alignment are revealed in either case.

Nope.  It's right there in "Lynch Mechanics". (Note: the OP of the signup thread is still not up to date. Use the doc linked in the OP of this thread.)

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Locked up players do not count towards win con totals, and their role and alignment are not revealed.

Also, I've added an order of actions to that doc. Further, complex interactions will probably be handled on a case-by-case basis (i.e. I don't want to translate ~4 pages of spec doc discussion into something reasonable, but we have a general idea of the principles we'll follow if an edge case comes up). 

[The_God_King]

he had finally been caught. Oh well, the guards had taken away his lucky pens but they didn't seem to know what to do with him. In their brief confusion, he bolted. He made for the exit to find them locked. Luckily he knew this place pretty well and found a secluded corner."No G-men are going to get me!" he thought and he found a comfortable spot behind one of those uncomfortable-looking couches to camp out until the guards gave up. It wouldn't take long with all these tourists everywhere. Time to find a disguise...

1 hour ago, Straw said:

I couldn't get the reversed ones until Coda mentioned they were reversed.

I had been working on my next code when I realized that decoding a regular message gave a totally different result then coding a regular message. If I ever get into spycraft I may have to use that.

[Experience he/him]

Is there also a two vote minimum to capture a player?

[Straw he/him]

BTW, has anyone solved Elkanah's code?