Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 Night 2: The First Secret is given form, the Second given purpose, the third abused. YOU SUCCEEDED. “I didn’t. Rat and mice do not worry me God, only the Spiders.” The mistborn crouched on the rooftop, watching as Varun’s family buried his body. “He was my brother’s man. Not Cett’s.” HE WAS A LIVING MAN. YOU KILLED HIM AS I COMMANDED. “I need the spiders dead though. But if I kill rats too often, Vin will despise me. She doesn’t understand.” FOOL. HAVE HER LOVE, KILL A MAN. Zane cocked his head, then grinned. Fake Joe, the man who spat at the gods, stood proudly as the guards tied his hands with ropes. They hobbled his ankles with heavy stones, so that he could not flee. None of them had a speck of metal on them. They knew that he was Ironborn, yet they still arrested him as a traitor. It was a perversion of Justice, but he couldn’t figure out why it was happening. They lead him out of his house, and up the streets toward Keep Venture. Joe had never heard of a prisoner being treated this way. Normally Elend wanted everyone to be treated humanely, and innocent. There was a crowd before the Keep. Joe could see his peers, the people he suspected, and a lot of guards. He could also see King Elend Venture. The Monarch was standing before the gates with a naked sword. His expression was grim, and the crowd was nervous. The guards brought him before the King, and forced him to his knees. “Sire,” he started, “What am i accused of?” “You are found Guilty, traitor, of treason and murder.” Elend raised the sword above his head. “I execute you for betraying me.” “But sir! I am innocent!” The sword swept down in a sideways arc, catching halfway through his neck. Joe spasmed once, then fell dead. Droughtbringer was a Lurcher 2! There are No Tineye 1’s Left! PM’s are CLOSED for tonight. Votes: Araris (1): Shaney Drought (4): Nutellaspren, Araris, Darkness, Elend Venture Drake Marshall (2): Straw, Sart Darkness (3): Drake, Seonid, Shanerockes Hemalurgic Headshot (2): Steeldancer, Droughtbringer The night will end in Player List: Steeldancer - A dancer who wears steel toed boots. Straw - Adfus Syponr, A man who believes in Luck and Chance. Seonid - Count Sen Conrad the III, a man unrelated to something or other. Hemalurgic Headshot - Marv, Nothing unusual about him. Darkness_ - Jax Sangrin, a man who loves boxes Drake Marshall - Jay, Luthadel’s illiterate Librarian shanerockes - Phillip, the first of his line ShaneyRus - Lyv, who loves short names with rare letters Nuttallaspren - Norys, a chocolate maker. Araris Valerian - Aralis Penrod, a noble nobleman Sart - Lord Tuy, probably not Hoid. Aspen - A young Gardener Droughtbringer - Lurcher 2! Asterion137 - Village Coinshot 2 LivingLegend - Village Tineye 1 Ornstein - Eliminator Rioter 1 Devotary of Spontaneity - Village Tineye 1 3
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 *sigh... Mm thoughts up soon. Sorry @Droughtbringer I owe you one, even if it was just chance...
Steeldancer he/him Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) um, why did the GM vote on Drought? @A Joe in the Bush is this a mistake? Edited January 2, 2018 by Steeldancer
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 Well then. That was a chaotic voting cycle, no? Elend's vote is an interesting development, but I was expecting some kind of vote manipulation to be in play. I am guessing that Elend's vote is susceptible to rioting. @A Joe in the Bush would you please confirm or deny? Also, the rules didn't explicitly say that rioting cancels the rioter's vote. Is that a thing? If Darkness were the unstable mistborn, he would very probably save himself. If Darkness were not the unstable mistborn, whoever it was would still probably want to save him, to make people think that he might be. So, assuming Elend's vote is indeed basically the result of rioting, I don't think it can tell us very much. I suppose there's not much to be done now but wait for more people to die. On the bright side, the elims might hit the mistborn, and the mistborn might hit the elims.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 2, 2018 Author Posted January 2, 2018 Elend venture was indeed rioted.
Sart he/him Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) According to the rules, only the Mistborn can target Elend with their actions, so we know the Mistborn wanted Drought dead. That would implicate Darkness, but it isn't exactly subtle. It could be the Mistborn wants us to suspect Darkness, and wants us to waste a lynch. That is extremely annoying. Edited January 2, 2018 by Sart Bad grammar
nutellaspren she/her Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, Sart said: According to the rules, only the Mistborn can target Elend with their actions, so we know the Mistborn wanted Drought dead. That would implicate Darkness, but it isn't exactly subtle. It could be the Mistborn wants us to suspect Darkness, and wants us to waste a lynch. That is extremely annoying. Hm, yeah. I wouldn't be too surprised if Darkness really was the Mistborn and used it to save himself, but it is kind of obvious so could be a frame-up. Just seems kinda silly to use it as a frame imo, and occam's razor and all that... idk.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted January 2, 2018 Posted January 2, 2018 The title references three secrets. I just remembered that Joe said there was a maximum of three secret rules in this game.
Steeldancer he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said: The title references three secrets. I just remembered that Joe said there was a maximum of three secret rules in this game. Good point! So if the vote was one of them, what are the other secrets? Hmmmm
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 3, 2018 Author Posted January 3, 2018 There are about 2 and a half hours left in the night. Please make sure all your actions are sent in soon.
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 3, 2018 Author Posted January 3, 2018 Apologies. I am slightly busy, so the actual write up will come later. Here are the results! The Eliminators killed Nutellaspren! She was a Village Thug 1! The Mistborn killed Sart! He was a Village Rioter 1! This day will last 48 hours as usual. 4
Steeldancer he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 Well, crap. Thug 1 was the best role for finding the mistborn. HH .
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Caught up on thread. Pinging elim on @Hemalurgic Headshot, @Araris Valerian and @nutellaspren I can confirm @Drake Marshall is indeed telling the truth about his role, however despite the evidence of your villagerness I am a little skeptical of your play. My gut feels like something is up and all that stuff I said before was mainly to justify that and to defend myself from your vote (which still confuses me, you and @Seonid, so that doesn't help my feelings). You may not be the unstable misborn but whether you are an eliminator, I would not be surprised, specifically as the eliminators would want the mistborn dead as well, and a scan role would benefit that task immensely. My feelings on nutella confuse me and I am unsure how to gauge them but I'll ISO them and see if some stuff align. I will ISO HH and Araris later, but for now will place my vote on HH. Edit: *facepalm, I somehow forgot about N2 *shakes head Very interesting on that, I have no idea how I forgot to even post thoughts on it >.> Well I can assure you all I am not the mistborn and the riot was an attempt to implicate me. I also pinged badly on sart's post; It was a little 50/50 but then the end kind of threw me off. Edited January 3, 2018 by Darkness_
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Sorry, sorry, but what? @Darkness_ @Steeldancer, please explain your suspicions of me, and I will do my best to try to remedy it. I can only change your thinking if I know what it is. Edited January 3, 2018 by Hemalurgic Headshot
Steeldancer he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: Sorry, sorry, but what? @Darkness_ @Steeldancer, please explain your suspicions of me, and I will do my best to try to remedy it. I can only change your thinking if I know what it is. I think you're the unstable mistborn. just your voting patterns and my conflicted reads seem to suggest you might be, anyway.
Hemalurgic Headshot he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Steeldancer said: I think you're the unstable mistborn. just your voting patterns and my conflicted reads seem to suggest you might be, anyway. I already told Drake I wasn't. And I'll tell you too: I'm not the Mistborn. And unfortunately, with our PM capabilities down, its making it quite difficult to figure out who it truly is. I want to be careful about placing bets on who the Mistborn is before a lynch, because there not very many villagers left, and with two opposing parties, the Elims and the Mistborn, we will continue to be taken down. If we add in a mislynch, thats three villagers each Day/Night cycle. That's scary, and hopefully you'll understand my concern.
Steeldancer he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: I already told Drake I wasn't. And I'll tell you too: I'm not the Mistborn. And unfortunately, with our PM capabilities down, its making it quite difficult to figure out who it truly is. I want to be careful about placing bets on who the Mistborn is before a lynch, because there not very many villagers left, and with two opposing parties, the Elims and the Mistborn, we will continue to be taken down. If we add in a mislynch, thats three villagers each Day/Night cycle. That's scary, and hopefully you'll understand my concern. The thing is- the mistborn is more than capable of saying "I'm not the mistborn." That's exactly my concern, and I think you're the mistborn. Yes, I'm concerned I'm wrong, but I have to start somewhere! Unless you propose a better candidate for who the mistborn might be, I've placed my chips on you. Oh, BTW, to You know who, thank you.
Seonid he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 @Darkness_, so you're claiming to be a Seeker of some variety? @Drake Marshall, now might be a decent time to share with us who you scanned last night. Maybe not necessarily what you found out, unless it can help us restrict the solution space of the game. Also, now we have 2 claimed seekers - that's not unheard of, but we've already seen 2x Tineye 1s and 2x Rioter 1s, so I'm slightly skeptical of also having 2x Seekers. Although it could be a Seeker 1 and a Seeker 2, that wouldn't be impossible. As promised, here's my updated color-coded vote tallies: First up is the examination of the two days looking at positions on the Ornstein lynch. Green is dead town, red is dead Elim. Yellow is still living and voted on Ornstein. Blue is still living and voted on Asterion. Purple is Elend Venture's vote, which shows us who the mistborn wanted dead. D1: Ornstein (5): Seonid, Straw, Steel, HH, L.Legend Straw (1): Nutella Asterion (5): Sart, Araris, Drake, Droughtbringer, Devotary D2: Araris (1): Shaney Drought (4): Nutellaspren, Araris, Darkness, Elend Venture Drake Marshall (2): Straw, Sart Darkness (3): Drake, Seonid, Shanerockes Hemalurgic Headshot (2): Steeldancer, Droughtbringer Nothing notable there, except perhaps that the mistborn chose another one of the asterion voters to lynch. So it seems that the Mistborn, at least, is plumbing that mine looking for Elims - the Sart kill after the Droughtbringer lynch seems indicative. The Elim kill on Nutella was kind of out of left field, but then again so was the kill on living legend. I'll be back later this afternoon with my thoughts on the vote shifting right at the end of D2.
Straw he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 Hmm... looks like DA is claiming to be a Seeker. I have a village gut read on HH, so I’m going to wait and watch a bit before voting.
Araris Valerian he/him Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 @Darkness_ Nutella was killed and flipped village. Also, he was confused about the elim win con D1, so I was already leaning village on him. Also, I'd wager that Drake was seeking Sart last night. I'm leaning towards agreeing with the idea that HH is the Mistborn. My second guess would be Darkness.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Seonid said: Darkness_, so you're claiming to be a Seeker of some variety? 3 hours ago, Straw said: Hmm... looks like DA is claiming to be a Seeker. I have a village gut read on HH, so I’m going to wait and watch a bit before voting. Nope, it was just some basic deduction with the role I do have. 12 hours ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: Sorry, sorry, but what? @Darkness_ @Steeldancer, please explain your suspicions of me, and I will do my best to try to remedy it. I can only change your thinking if I know what it is. Please hold me to this, I admittedly have nothing solid, but hold me to explain them (Don't really have time rn). 7 hours ago, Hemalurgic Headshot said: I already told Drake I wasn't. And I'll tell you too: I'm not the Mistborn. And unfortunately, with our PM capabilities down, its making it quite difficult to figure out who it truly is. I want to be careful about placing bets on who the Mistborn is before a lynch, because there not very many villagers left, and with two opposing parties, the Elims and the Mistborn, we will continue to be taken down. If we add in a mislynch, thats three villagers each Day/Night cycle. That's scary, and hopefully you'll understand my concern. Can the Elims forego their order and not kill anyone @A Joe in the Bush 3 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: @Darkness_ Nutella was killed and flipped village. Also, he was confused about the elim win con D1, so I was already leaning village on him. Also, I'd wager that Drake was seeking Sart last night. I'm leaning towards agreeing with the idea that HH is the Mistborn. My second guess would be Darkness. I have no idea how I missed that >.> Why are you leaning towards HH? Or myself? I realise I shouldn't place a vote yet lest another tie or such occurs, at least until I've given my reasons proper, HH
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 (edited) Heyo folks. I'm not around today quite so much but I'll talk more tomorrow. However, I did drop by to check the result of my action. And I believe I've pieced something together. 7 hours ago, Araris Valerian said: Also, I'd wager that Drake was seeking Sart last night. Bravo. I was indeed seeking Sart last night. 17 hours ago, Darkness_ said: I can confirm @Drake Marshall is indeed telling the truth about his role, however despite the evidence of your villagerness I am a little skeptical of your play. My gut feels like something is up and all that stuff I said before was mainly to justify that and to defend myself from your vote (which still confuses me, you and @Seonid, so that doesn't help my feelings). You may not be the unstable misborn but whether you are an eliminator, I would not be surprised, specifically as the eliminators would want the mistborn dead as well, and a scan role would benefit that task immensely. I salute you. This is well crafted. Unfortunately, there's a complication. You're language clearly states that my role is what I said it was. Ergo, you are claiming to have scanned me with bronze. Thing is, somebody soothed me last night, and Joe told me I took no action as a result. Now, the wording "took no action" really makes me suppose that my bronze wouldn't have registered if you really had seeked me. Now, assuming Joe doesn't get back to me and say that I'm mistaken about how scanning works, I don't really see how there's any way you could be telling the truth. Kind of feels cheap to vote on you again, but I'd say this evidence more than justifies it. So far as I can tell you basically have to be the unstable mistborn. Darkness. EDIT: I guess I should probably mention people. @Steeldancer@Straw@Seonid@Hemalurgic Headshot@Darkness_@shanerockes@ShaneysRus@Araris Valerian@Aspen If we don't deal with the mistborn soon, we'll all be in a spot of trouble, so I encourage everybody to weigh in. Edited January 4, 2018 by Drake Marshall
Jo and the Bush all/any Posted January 4, 2018 Author Posted January 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Darkness_ said: Can the Elims forego their order and not kill anyone @A Joe in the Bush The Elims can choose to not kill a player.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted January 4, 2018 Posted January 4, 2018 2 hours ago, A Joe in the Bush said: The Elims can choose to not kill a player. Well then to the Elims, may you please not kill anyone until we know who the Misborn is, and you can like, pretend to be villager to propose who you think it is to us villagers and then we can maybe lynch them so you can kill us during night, that'd be good. 3 hours ago, Drake Marshall said: Heyo folks. I'm not around today quite so much but I'll talk more tomorrow. However, I did drop by to check the result of my action. And I believe I've pieced something together. Bravo. I was indeed seeking Sart last night. I salute you. This is well crafted. Unfortunately, there's a complication. You're language clearly states that my role is what I said it was. Ergo, you are claiming to have scanned me with bronze. Thing is, somebody soothed me last night, and Joe told me I took no action as a result. Now, the wording "took no action" really makes me suppose that my bronze wouldn't have registered if you really had seeked me. Now, assuming Joe doesn't get back to me and say that I'm mistaken about how scanning works, I don't really see how there's any way you could be telling the truth. Kind of feels cheap to vote on you again, but I'd say this evidence more than justifies it. So far as I can tell you basically have to be the unstable mistborn. Darkness. EDIT: I guess I should probably mention people. @Steeldancer@Straw@Seonid@Hemalurgic Headshot@Darkness_@shanerockes@ShaneysRus@Araris Valerian@Aspen If we don't deal with the mistborn soon, we'll all be in a spot of trouble, so I encourage everybody to weigh in. Nope I just see no reason for you to have lied about your role In fact, you pushing for a lynch on me even still, where according to you the evidence more than justifies it, which makes no sense. Cos there isn't any evidence. I'm sorry but evidence is rooted and is inherently fact, cold hard proof which supports whether a proposition is true or false. And my friend you have no "facts" which can indicate my alignment, and what you do have you are indeed unsure about and await Joe's testimony. Whatever you "deduce" from my facts are untrue, as I who inherently knows the truth can attest to. In fact, you pushing on me for barely any reason is starting to be grating, in fact, I believe this "complication" was completely proposed as to provide a feeble reason to have a mislynch. Where I am sure of your role, I am unsure of your alignment and I don't think there's any room in my mind to accommodate any trust for you. Drake Marshal 1
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