[OB] Raysium vs Odiumium

[Straw he/him]

Inspired by the discussion on Discord!

[Steeldancer he/him]

Odiumium. 

Odi-yum-i-yum. 

[+Extesian he/him]

I vote Passionium

[Nathrangking he/him]

Raysium. Odiumium sounds too much like condominium to me. Thankfully Hoid did not accept a shard and create a god metal cephandriusium no thank you!

Edited November 27, 2017 by Nathrangking

[dvoraen]

Hat(e)ium.

[Calderis he/him]

Odiumium sounds like it was made by a 7 year old. 

Raysium. 

[FuzzyWordsmith]

Raysium follows Atium and Lerasium. We know Harmonium would have actually been called Sazedium if Sazed hadn't objected.

[shawnhargreaves he/him]

42 minutes ago, Re-Ookla, Midnight Fractal said:

I vote Passionium

Simplify this down to Passonium, and I'm in.

[RShara she/her]

Raysium officially, Odiumium for fun.

[Mondaysjelly]

Voted Raysium.

Sazedium > Harmonium

[Brightlord M. Alhstrom he/him]

6 hours ago, Nathrangking said:

cephandriusium

Actually, if you are following Latin forms, I'm fairly sure that would be Cephandrium. The "-ius" becomes "-ium" not "-iusium".

And yea, it's based on the name of the Vessel, not the name of the Shard. The exception being Harmonium, and just because no one wants to argue with the guy who is literally the most powerful being (raw power wise) in the Cosmere (to our knowledge.)

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

Wouldn’t it actually be Midium for Hoid?  (And HOW did Shallash know that name?!?!)

[FuzzyWordsmith]

4 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

Wouldn’t it actually be Midium for Hoid?  (And HOW did Shallash know that name?!?!)

You know, I now have a strong worry that Liar is completely non-canon now and that Midius is just another alias of Hoid, as opposed to his real name. If it isn't an alias, then that has to mean he used his real name with the heralds. Whatever it is, it proves that Hoid was on speaking terms with the Heralds, enough to call each other by name.

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

I actually would not be surprised if it was both.

Spoiler

Based on ‘Liar’ Midius takes up the name Hoid and continues using it thereafter. This is likely still cannon, as Hoid has implied these events occurred. 

But time passes. No one knows ‘Hoid’ was ever known as Midius, or even that there ever was a person by that name. So eventually he uses his own name as an alias. It’s gone from being his real name to being as much a lie as the others.

Alternatively, Tanavast -or Rayse or both - could have known his name was Midius, and told the heralds. 

I like my first reason better though.

 

[Brightlord M. Alhstrom he/him]

3 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

I actually would not be surprised if it was both.

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Based on ‘Liar’ Midius takes up the name Hoid and continues using it thereafter. This is likely still cannon, as Hoid has implied these events occurred. 

But time passes. No one knows ‘Hoid’ was ever known as Midius, or even that there ever was a person by that name. So eventually he uses his own name as an alias. It’s gone from being his real name to being as much a lie as the others.

Alternatively, Tanavast -or Rayse or both - could have known his name was Midius, and told the heralds. 

I like my first reason better though.

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One question then: Where does Cephandrius come in? Obviously at least two groups of people know him by that name.

Edited November 27, 2017 by Brightlord Maelstrom

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

Another alias.

I actually checked, and WoB is Cephandrius is closer to his original name than Hoid; is less alias than long term identity; he was also known as Topaz at the same time; it was one of his first aliases. So Cephandrius is not his real name.

However we don’t know the status of Midius yet.

Edited November 27, 2017 by Kingsdaughter613

[RShara she/her]

How about Odumium.  It's an insult, AND easier to say.

[Oversleep]

You're all assuming that Midius was actually his real name...

[MistbornAlpaca he/him]

Are we going for an actual realistic name? If so, probably Raysium, but Odiumium is way more fun!

[RShara she/her]

7 minutes ago, Ookla the Indefatigable said:

You're all assuming that Midius was actually his real name...

As far as I can tell from Liar, that was his real name.  Whether it will be when his books are written is a different story, of course!

[Oversleep]

9 minutes ago, RShara said:

As far as I can tell from Liar, that was his real name

I have reasons to doubt that...

Edited November 27, 2017 by Ookla the Indefatigable

[RShara she/her]

Lol that's good to know.

[Brightlord M. Alhstrom he/him]

I'm not sure we will ever know Hoid true name until and unless we see a scene with him in his childhood at a time when he is either too young to be using an alias, or someone trustworthy who would have known him since birth is using it has his name. Like his mother for example.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if it stayed one of the mysteries of the Cosmere, doomed to never be revealed.

Edited November 29, 2017 by Brightlord Maelstrom

[RShara she/her]

[+Hoiditthroughthegrapevine he/him]

On 11/26/2017 at 5:44 PM, Steeldancer said:

Odiumium. 

Odi-yum-i-yum. 

Exactly @Steeldancer! But Hoid might be happy because this would probably trigger the development of products like this on Roshar: