Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 I really don't know anymore, and I'm not in the best place rn and I have to go be social soon I'll try and contribute for now :/ So. .... smh I really don't like how STINK's been playing. I friggen ordered my pizza STINK, why did I get an empty box instead? >.< smh idk anymore, haven't honestly been paying too much attention to this game. Hopefully the more I play the more time and stuff I begin to be comfortable and happy to invest, rather than just sitting with the thread open staring at it blankly :/ At the point of the Docs thing...I was just going all out you're elim *shrugs. Bleh, idk guys *shrugs, I'm honestly not in the right frame of mind but. If it isn't Lopen It's definitely Mage or STINK. Methinks Mage might have messed up somehow, probably pushed too hard on Lopen-who I still think is elim kinda. (will go into this deeper, I had a realisation at work today, not in the right mind to go into it well), and STINK told them in "PM", my bet it was actually the Elim Doc, which is why he doesn't want to explain in thread/PM. And then Mage backed off Lopen *shrugs. Well I have to go now, but Stink
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) DA, you're the one innovative pizza chain where like, you just give the customers a random pizza, and moreover they eat in the complete dark. You never know what you're gonna get, you never know what you actually got, you just hope for the best. (This isn't really based on your playstyle, just based on you in general lol) Edited August 9, 2017 by Eternum
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Okay, well, I just finished completely reading through the game. Here are the living players, with my reads on them: 1. Elith - pretty strongly village.2. Magestar - somewhat of a mixed feeling, leaning elim right now.3. Eternum - reading back over his posts, there were things I noticed that made me lean both ways, but in the end, I think there was more posts that I read as suspicious than villagery. Leaning elim.4. Jebus - Not much of a read on him, but I think I'm leaning elim. 5. Orlok - still a little paranoid of, but reading back through things actually gave me a slightly better read on him. 6. Winter - very strong village read. 7. Roadwalker - weak village read.8. Jondesu - weak elim read. I keep going back and forth with him though. (If Stink is an elim, I'd take a closer look at Jon, see below for the reason) 9. Stink - still fairly suspicious after reading over his posts. He seemed really confident that I was a villager. Doesn't seem like he ever really placed very many useful votes either. Also, from what I saw, I'm pretty sure the only players to ever question his alignment(at least with votes), were villagers(this is assuming Elith, Winter, and DA are villagers, which I'm pretty confident that they are). The remaining players(Mage, Eternum, jebus, roadwalker, Jon, Sart) haven't really given solid reads on him(except Eternum said he thought he was village). Jon put his read of Stink as just "Stink," even though he mentioned at the beginning of the game that he didn't want to ignore him(which is why he voted on him). Seems contradictory to me. 10. Lopen - Village. 11. DA - Village read. If Stink is an elim, strong village read. 12. Ecth - Still reading village, though he hasn't contributed much lately... 13. Sart - Kinda back to suspicious of him after reading through things, tbh. Going back and forth a lot though. Yeah, so, I'm really tired at this point, which is why I only did an in depth analysis of Stink, because I'm leaving my vote on him, so I wanted to put more of my reasoning out there for others to consider and for him to respond to. I would like to hear everyone's opinion, but specifically I'd like to hear from the players whose names I put in bold(this could possibly be the last Cycle, so please respond as soon as you can). And to everyone: VOTE!
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 What makes you lean elim on me, Lopen? Just curious, really. Don't need you to explain everything, just give me a TL;DR of your thought process on me.
Magestar he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) ... Eternum, you just seem super enthusiastic about everything. I don't know why this is making me feel so odd, but the way you immediately come up with some kind of theory every time new info comes out seems odd to me. And, the main reason I wanted to kill Yitzi, as I said last cycle, was because I was pretty sure either Yitzi or Eternum were evil. Since Yitzi is good, I feel like Eternum must be Evil? I just feel really bad about Eternum. I don't know why. It might just be gut. 5 hours ago, Eternum said: Heh.. It makes sense now. Arinian wasn't a Stoneward, he was in league with one. He revealed himself as a Stoneward to keep the real Stoneward's identity a secret. That's why his "vote manips" seemed erratic considering his suspicions. I honestly doubt... *Moment of realization* Holy crap, he was being tricked by the elim Stoneward! I think they promised to help him lynch you, Sart, if Arinian acted as a cover for them. A bargain, of sorts. If you've noticed, all his vote manips were adding to villagers, and quite possibly removing from elims on at least one occasion. EDIT: Obviously, Arinian was not aware of the alignment of the Stoneward, or so I assume. Like this post. Does this read as off to anyone else? It just seems odd. I mean, it seems like you already know what's going on, or something. It might be your post style. Idk. 4 hours ago, Darkness Ascendant said: Methinks Mage might have messed up somehow, probably pushed too hard on Lopen-who I still think is elim kinda. (will go into this deeper, I had a realisation at work today, not in the right mind to go into it well), and STINK told them in "PM", my bet it was actually the Elim Doc, which is why he doesn't want to explain in thread/PM. And then Mage backed off Lopen *shrugs. No... When did I push hard on Lopen? I repeatedly said I was unsure of them, and at one point I felt suspicious of them. If Stink and I were teammates, why wouldn't he just tell me to back off Lopen in doc? I'm perfectly capable of backing off someone I haven't even voted on. Besides, the Elim kills don't match my style, IMO. I don't typically kill newer players, and tend to target people who have played as a Elim with me. Although I suppose the argument could be made that I'm not in control of the kills... Idk. I feel like this is going to be an interesting game to read afterwards. The kill pattern seems odd to me. @Elbereth, apologies if this has already been asked, but is there a difference between; [Player has Died!] and [Player was Killed]? I only ask because both have been used, and I would rather know if there's another kill out there. Edited August 9, 2017 by Magestar Editing in a quote for clarity.
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Mage, it's probably just the way I organize my posts. I think that making connections like I have been, theorizing, etc. are how I play. (Granted, I have a lot of experience with those, being a Sanderson fan for years now..) I'm still kind of figuring out my playstyle, but I honestly just want to help. I really want to win my first SE game/first village game, and so I am a bit overenthusiastic, but I guess I'm always a bit overenthusiastic, regardless of circumstance. *Shrug*, lynching me won't really help the village. Sure, I'm roleless, but any villager votes right now are valuable. EDIT: Also, how much sense does my theory on Arinian and their claim make to you? Edited August 9, 2017 by Eternum
STINK he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, winter devotion said: stooooooooorms... I was really sure about that one. I wasn't
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, winter devotion said: yeah, STINK, we know you're always right. rofl, if he was we'd have won already
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 I'm hearing a frustration leak.. Better close it up before we all go *boom* 1
Elbereth she/her Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 6 hours ago, Eternum said: Heh.. It makes sense now. Arinian wasn't a Stoneward, he was in league with one. He revealed himself as a Stoneward to keep the real Stoneward's identity a secret. That's why his "vote manips" seemed erratic considering his suspicions. Apologies. Arinian was a Stoneward. I entirely forgot the terminology I was using. >> This has now been fixed in the writeup.
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Awwww... But my theories... Eh, it makes things easier, I guess. 's OK, El. I completely forgot they were even called Stonewards for a couple cycles, if it helps So who are we lynching now? Sart or Stink? Also, I'll admit that the only reason I really had a village read on Stink was because they were nice to me, and their analyses seemed village-y enough. I haven't seen much concrete proof towards them being elim, but eh. We don't have concrete proof on anyone.
STINK he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Can't help it because I'm always right, but Sart.is also good
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Mate, right now you're not being of any help whatsoever. If you want the village to win, you should explain to us. Why do you trust these people, why are you so confident in their village..ness? (idk, don't ask me) At the very least, explain in PMs if you don't want to do so in thread, Edited August 9, 2017 by Eternum
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Eternum said: What makes you lean elim on me, Lopen? Just curious, really. Don't need you to explain everything, just give me a TL;DR of your thought process on me. Well, it's something similar to what Mage just said about you. You're quick to throw out these theories, and you make it sound like you're sure that's what happened. So much so that it feels like an act to me. Like, back in the first cycle, you were very quick to "trust" Rae, when it's your very first game to play with her or at all. And now, in possibly the final cycle of the game(if we mislynch), you seem very slow to take a stance. Caution is good since we need to be careful, but I can't help but think you're hesitating because you want to see how the village thinks before you take your stance. 37 minutes ago, winter devotion said: Well who is an eliminator if not anyone up for the lynch? I'm sticking with Stink.
Magestar he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Eternum said: Mage, it's probably just the way I organize my posts. I think that making connections like I have been, theorizing, etc. are how I play. (Granted, I have a lot of experience with those, being a Sanderson fan for years now..) I'm still kind of figuring out my playstyle, but I honestly just want to help. I really want to win my first SE game/first village game, and so I am a bit overenthusiastic, but I guess I'm always a bit overenthusiastic, regardless of circumstance. *Shrug*, lynching me won't really help the village. Sure, I'm roleless, but any villager votes right now are valuable. Possibly. Elenion also said you remind him of him, and I tend to have negative reads on Len as well. Also, the fact that Arinian actually was a Stoneward makes me feel better about Eternum. At this point, I'm not confident about our chances of winning. I'm worried STINK might be a Truthless, and I don't know who else to vote on. Elith, the only other person I was suspicious of, won't be back till Friday, so he should probably die by inactivity soon. -sigh-
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, TheMightyLopen said: Well, it's something similar to what Mage just said about you. You're quick to throw out these theories, and you make it sound like you're sure that's what happened. So much so that it feels like an act to me. Like, back in the first cycle, you were very quick to "trust" Rae, when it's your very first game to play with her or at all. And now, in possibly the final cycle of the game(if we mislynch), you seem very slow to take a stance. Caution is good since we need to be careful, but I can't help but think you're hesitating because you want to see how the village thinks before you take your stance. I actually do want to see what you all think before I place a final vote, tbh. Also, yes, I was very sure of my theories when I came up with them. Why wouldn't I be? Then again, they all turned out to be wrong, which kind of makes me doubt myself a bit more. And no, it's no act. I'm always overconfident, overenthusiastic and a dash hyperactive, with a good helping of sass on the side. EDIT: Also, Mage, Elith won't die of inactivity. They gave a reason as to why they'll be gone, and as such they have to be killed or lynched. Edited August 9, 2017 by Eternum 1
Orlok Tsubodai Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Stink. I haven't really been on form this game, but really? How do you know that Lopen and Sart are good? I'm of the view that Stink's been trolling us - he's confident that the game is secure, so is causing trouble, and relying on people worrying about obvious eliminators, when we really should have lynched him a couple of cycles ago. 1
Elbereth she/her Posted August 9, 2017 Author Posted August 9, 2017 4 hours ago, Magestar said: @Elbereth, apologies if this has already been asked, but is there a difference between; [Player has Died!] and [Player was Killed]? I only ask because both have been used, and I would rather know if there's another kill out there. The two are interchangeable.
Eternum he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Orlok makes a good point... Well, I guess, Stink, this is where it ends for you, mate. *Tips hat* If you are actually elim, good job. You had me fooled, that's for sure,
Sparkrunner he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 My read on STINK is truthless, with the random accusations and "he is good" and the flippant attitude. As such, STINK is probably an eliminator trying to act truthless. Theory: Could the truthless be a village sympathizer?
Jondesu he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, Roadwalker said: Theory: Could the truthless be a village sympathizer? Sure, unless there's something in the role we don't know about, there's no reason the Truthless couldn't be attempting to get the Elims to vote on them so they can help the village that way. That's somewhat less likely in many cases, since I know when I've been an Elim I tried to avoid voting in a block with even a few of my teammates, but late in the game like this it could be a killer move (heh). I kinda don't think that's what Stink is doing, though. Stink is just being Stink, erratic and random as usual, and I suspect he's village. This is how he always acts.
STINK he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 These are all baseless accusations on me. Just because I'm right all the time, doesn't mean I need to be lynched!
Orlok Tsubodai Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 Just now, STINK said: These are all baseless accusations on me. Just because I'm right all the time, doesn't mean I need to be lynched! Two thoughts here: Stink is either the Truthless, or is acting so erratically that he wants us to think he's the Truthless. I'm pretty certain that it's the latter. A Truthless would know that acting like an eliminator makes it look obvious that they're Truthless, and so would seek to avoid it. An eliminator, on the other hand, wants to act like a Truthless trying to get themselves lynched, hoping that we think there's just enough of a likelihood to think he is Truthless to fear voting for him.
TheMightyLopen he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 @Magestar @Jondesu @Roadwalker @Sart @overlordjebus @Ecthelion III, mind adding your vote to Stink? I don't want a hammer to be pulled, and not voting leaves things wide open for one. Especially if they have vote manipulation. At this point, I don't think any of us voting on Stink are going to change our minds, so splitting the votes by voting someone else will more than likely end up working in the elims favor. 2
Jondesu he/him Posted August 9, 2017 Posted August 9, 2017 I don't like this bandwagon, and @TheMightyLopen, there's no particular danger of a hammer right at the moment. 5 votes on him, one on Sart still (me), and nothing else. Granted, I can understanding recommending those who haven't voted pick a candidate, but asking me to switch my vote right now just really sets off warning bells, when there's already a long bandwagon. Obviously not all of you voting on Stink are Elims, but it's entirely possible that the whole Elim team just plopped their votes down on the convenient target, or several of them. I've suddenly become a lot more wary of you, Lopen, as well as DA, Winter, Orlok, and Eternum. I would be open to lynching someone other than Sart, but I will not be adding my vote to the Stink bandwagon. If he's fooled me, so be it, but I feel fairly confident that Stink is village.
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