Arinian Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Eternum said: Ahhh.. So I got scared for no reason. Yay? So, yeah, back on Sart. Len is way too confusing for me to break down now, and it's pointless too. Maybe I missed it somewhere, did you retracted your vote from Yitzi before voted on Sart?
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 *rubs eyes what the storms has been going on. I'm just going to throw my vote on Lopen . Just a series of posts that seem to arc and point in my opinion to him being an Eliminator. I'm super tired right now, please trust me on this guys, the main thing that finally convinced me he's an elim is this post. (Wolfwagon methinks) I haven't been paying all too much attention to him. But I have had a general bad feeling about him. If he turns out to be an elim, then we lynch Orlok *yawn.
Arinian Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, winter devotion said: You don't need to retract, btw. Oh really? Cause usually you need... okay, if it's so *shrug*
Arinian Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, winter devotion said: Our GM said so a few cycles ago I think. Can you link me on it? Cause I don't like this counter lynch which forming on Lopen and I don't want to see someones vote wasted.
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) I'm going to vote on Eternum. I'm getting a pretty bad read on them right now. Something just feels off. Edited August 8, 2017 by Magestar Didn't color vote mah gosh I'm dumb.
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 So Len lied about his role and this and that then died, and y'all wanna follow not even what he said but what Winter said that Len said? Na, Lopen is good. Get back to voting not-Lopen, folks.
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, STINK said: So Len lied about his role and this and that then died, and y'all wanna follow not even what he said but what Winter said that Len said? Na, Lopen is good. Get back to voting not-Lopen, folks. Sometimes it's really hard to read your tone. Like what you said about Lopen looks sarcastic but in context that doesn't make sense. And at this point I've kind of given up on reading Lopen or Orlok, and it's difficult to try to make a good read of things when I don't trust my own judgement. And Stink, what are your thoughts on Eternum or Winter? My opinion on Sart is that his actions seem too separate and random for him to be working with other people. edit; I will note I haven't actually looked at Sart too closely, so that read could be off. Edited August 8, 2017 by Magestar
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, winter devotion said: Don't forget he turned out to be a villager. So go ahead and ignore that fact or not, but it does mean his poinion has some weight. As I have been repeatedly reminded, confirmed good is not confirmed right. Also, as you said yourself, all we have is your word is that "Len's pm" is real. 3
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Magestar said: As I have been repeatedly reminded, confirmed good is not confirmed right. Going with something that someone said just because they're confirmed good just means you're more suspicious for trying to attach your thoughts to the idea of this dead confirmed villager.
Darkness Ascendant he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Sorry guys, had to quickly post and drop out cos of dad. But anyway here it is. Eh. both ways at this point. Also would never have thought Lopen to be the sort to pull his alignment without questioning Rae on asking it. Mind you its been a while so my read on this could be rusty. First couple posts about reading on people are pretty generic and not very indicative. Now this is super off to me, when looking at him elim wise. and.. Flash and Stick both ended up being Villager. Looking back at his original suspicions...something tells me he just picked people he knew weren't Elims, threw in an elim or two, then proceeded to ignore those reads and focus on the vills. Wha-are you always sleeping?! But yeah, very short, nothing much to say. Eh, another post that doesn't really add anything. Gets tricky here, the first rattle of the snake. OMG WHAT IS THIS ACTIVITY >:o
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, winter devotion said: Give me a good, logical, reason why I would lie about it. (Although the "I trust Winter" is probably a bit suspicious. But if I was making it all up, why would I have put something so obviously revealing in there?) It becomes an IKYK for me. I mean, I honestly would never even consider making something like that up. (Well, alright, I'd consider it, but I'd never do it. ) But, for that reason, it's not really a bad idea. Because it seems so unlikely that you would make it up, it must be real. As for why you'd put something so obviously revealing in there, same reason. Because it's so unlikely someone would try to fake that, that it looks real. Also I don't exactly see other evidence of Len trusting you. If you could show me some of that in-thread, I might be more likely to believe you. 4 minutes ago, STINK said: Going with something that someone said just because they're confirmed good just means you're more suspicious for trying to attach your thoughts to the idea of this dead confirmed villager. Yes? Which is why I'm kinda suspicious of Winter. Eternal still reads as more off to me tho. edit; DA, I think I should note that I'm still paranoid of Lopen. Maybe a little bit suspicious. He had a few reads that felt off to me. And I guess it doesn't make sense for Winter to attack Lopen if Lopen is evil? Unless Winter is trying to bus Lopen to make Winter seem hard-cleared? Idk. Edited August 8, 2017 by Magestar
Eternum he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 >Eternal Also, Mage, why are you suspicious of me?
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, winter devotion said: Come up with a better explanation. You're the one quoting a dead villager (which holds less weight than a live villager that can change their opinions) without confirmation that you are to try and start a bandwagon on someone that isn't evil. You have to justify better, not me. Also I quoted Magestar because he was 100% right.
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, Eternum said: Also, Mage, why are you suspicious of me? It's mostly your content, which reads as an Elim starting to get confident near the end of the game. The way you're acting looks like the way I've seen other Elims act near their endgame. I'm confusing myself, so I'm just gonna hop out real quick and gather my thoughts.
Eternum he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 It's really just me figuring out my playstyle and finally actually being useful, to a point.
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, winter devotion said: How do you know that Lopen isn't evil? Because I've done PMs and I've talked to people and used logic. So waste your vote on Lopen if you want, a loss sounds nice.
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, winter devotion said: Alright then, STINK. Why have you been acting so weird all game? The same could be said for you 1
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 1 minute ago, winter devotion said: No, it couldn't, because I act like this in almost every game I've played. You, on the other hand, tend to act far less erratic. Wew, more meta reasoning to vote Stink. Truly, the best form.of argument is meta.
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Just now, winter devotion said: Saying "Meta reasons to vote are dumb" doesn't actually count as a defense. It just makes you look more guilty. Yes it does because you haven't actually played many game with me recently so uh You can't exactly meta argue anyway
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Actually I'm not sure that STINK is usually less erratic than this. Maybe in the past few games. I think he's been trying to be less erratic. And he seems pretty normal this game, as far as STINK goes. Just a little less active, which I think he explained. 1
Eternum he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Winter, Stink, watching you two bicker is fun, but can we please focus on getting an elim now? I personally think Stink is village, but I could be wrong. Before we try to vote them away though, I'd rather we get rid of someone on whom we have actual evidence.
STINK he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Eternum said: Winter, Stink, watching you two bicker is fun, but can we please focus on getting an elim now? Well I mean the bickering is about people voting for Lopen which isn't voting for an elim so yeah I've already been doing that
Magestar he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 I looked over Lopen's posts, and there are a few reasons that I could be suspicious of him, but I don't think that they're any more than what I could say of most people; The people he's lynched have all been good (all our lynches have been good.) occasionally his tone has been off, and there have been a few odd things he's done. (Voting on Orlok.) If I would say things against him, it'd be that it looks like he lead a few of the lynches. And his comment about being hard-cleared 'cause he was attacked was odd. Actually I'm kinda suspicious of him. -sigh-
Eternum he/him Posted August 8, 2017 Posted August 8, 2017 Mage, this game is quite literally founded on everyone being suspicious of everyone. Tell me there's someone you're not suspicious of. Either way, I think we should save our suspicions of Lopen for later. I personally think Sart and Yitzi are elim atm, and I've noticed a possible connection between them. If Sart is one, Yitzi is probably one too.
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