Modern Society in AonDor

[The One Who Connects he/him]

Warning: This thread ignores distance limits currently plaguing magic on Sel.  This thread makes assumptions about the magical effects of several Aons.  This thread utilizes a method of Aon usage that is largely untested. Practical Viability may vary.

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Modern Society in AonDor

Elantris(city) had metal plates inscribed with Aon Ashe for light. This thread is an expansion of that concept to other Aons, in an attempt to replicate the modern society on Earth, while on Sel. Aon applications are built around what I am calling an Aonic Circuit Board: a metal plate inscribed with Aons and modifiers. I have taken the liberty of assuming that by the time Sel reaches a tech level like Earth, they will either have the ability to do this with precision, or have found a way to make machines that can do this for them. I have also made the assumption that a method has been devised to let non-Elantrians affect Aons via a middle-man(example: a light switch)

Entries are formatted by having the Aon and its corresponding definition in one line, while potential uses are listed below in bullet points, with varying level of detail.
Aons are in alphabetical order until such time as grouping them up becomes more efficient.
Aons whose power/effect are an assumption are marked with an *. Special Cases are marked with a double: **.
Not all Aons are in this list, as some definitions aren't conducive to guessing powers. For a mostly complete list of Aons, Aon definitions and powers, go here.

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Aon Aha*: "breath, air"

• Oxygen Tanks (Scuba/Astronaut): Aon written on inner surface of tank, set to keep the specified area filled with oxygen. Depending on level of control, may also be set to keep air at a specific PSI as well.
• Air Conditioning/Ventilation System: If you can affect the temperature of the air, you can replicate home AC/Heating systems. Not much detail on ventilation.
• Wind Power: If you can make air, you should be able to make wind. Then you utilize that wind with Windmills to produce power. More space efficient and reliable system than normal windmills.

Aon Ashe: "light, illumination"

• Light: It's fairly self explanatory, but it has enormous potential depending on what you can mess with. Hook the intensity modifier to a lever and you have a dimmer switch. Change what stimuli the Aon needs to activate and you could have those "clapper" lights(maybe). And much more.
• Flash Grenade: The "casing" is covered in sever Aon Ashe's. Have to Aon activate by detecting the lack of a pin, with a short time delay. The Ashe's are set to have a high intensity and a short duration.

Aon Ate**: "silence"  **Power is from deleted material, so not an assumption, but not canon either.

• Silencer Grenade: Little different from the Ashe Flash Grenade, except that it basically quiets an area. I see some value as a piece of Riot gear.
• Suppression Field: More or less a backpack version of the grenade, making the area around you silent as long as it is active. Value in stealth incursions and preventing nearby cries of alarm.
• Silencer: I am contractually obligated to put this on the list, even though I have no idea how it could work in practice.

Aon Daa: "power, energy"

• Short Range RPG: Daa projectiles are essentially dumb-fire, so long range isn't as viable.
• "Missile" Emplacements(fixed/mobile): Heavy assumption that you can apply speed modifiers to the launched Daa projectile. They would essentially be a point and click cannon.
• "Ammo": This could potentially replace ammunition in any destructive weaponry. It does magic damage, it's unlimited, it doesn't jam, etc..

Aon Edo: "protection, safety"

• Forcefields: Make an inescapable jail cell out of pure energy, bolster city walls with a layer of Edo, set up intruder traps in a home defense system, etc..
• Personal Defense: Set a certain size/shape, have the circuitry built into an arm attachment, and you've got handheld energy shields in place of wood/metal ones.

Aon Ehe: "fire, warmth"

• Light: Lanterns, streetlights, candles, torches, you name it. It's also fairly self-explanatory, but that's light.
• Fireplace: On the off chance that you can't regulate the temperature when making air with Aha, or if you want that nostalgic feeling.
• Flamethrower: Let's face it, you all expected this. Fair warning, designing a viable one is almost as hard as the gun silencer idea.

Aon Ene: "wit, cleverness"

• Learning Aid: School, Job Training, etc.. Improving memorization and reasoning skills is a must.
• Logic Aid: Programming, Planning, Designing, etc...  Reasoning skills and warding off those sleep-deprivation lapses is wonderful.

Aon Eno*: "water"

• Supply: Literally anything that involves the water company can be accomplished via Aon Eno.
• Hydropower: Why mess with Nature's rivers when you can just make your own? Waterwheel, Aon Eno, maybe Aon Tia to make it self contained(a falling water type system)

Aon Ien: "wisdom"

• Healing: Teach med students how to use the things in school, actually use them in hospitals and clinics all over. Specific variants for broken bones, poisons, disease, everything.

Aon Kii: "justice"

• Courtroom: The guilty feel pain in its presence, so inscribe it above doorways in the courthouse. Maybe add modifiers to specify what they are guilty of(murder, theft, etc..) for specific court cases.

Aon Nae: "sight, clarity"

• Sight Tools: Glasses, Magnifying Glass, etc..
• Scopes: Rifle Scope, Telescope, Binoculars, etc..

Aon Omi**: "love"  **I'm making a massive assumption here about when that affection needs to be there

• Serenity Grenade: Remove negative emotions, instill a feeling of peace/calm. End riots in seconds.
• Text in question: "It is peculiar in that it requires the Elantrian drawing it to feel sincere affection for those around them,"
  If the affection is also needed when activated, hire a pacifist or friendly religious fellow. Otherwise, we're good.

Aon Rao*: "spirit, essence"

• Power: Yes, this is a convert Investiture into electricity idea. I have nothing else to really go on.

Aon Shao: "transform, change"

• Production: You can create almost anything if you have the right modifiers. You can mass produce it if those modifiers are inscribed into something.
• Recycling: You can turn anything into anything else, so eventually this would progress into a Zero-Waste Society.

Aon Shao*: "death"

• Executions: I make the assumption that you can modify how painful and how quick the death is, so a quick and painless death will help build a humane society.
• Torture/Assassination: sometimes you want information, other times you simply want them to share your pain. A slow, painful death accomplishes both.
  Note: We do not approve of using this product in such a manner, but truth-in-advertising laws require us to make you aware of this functionality.

Aon Tae: "open"

• Door Opener: For disabled persons, you can open doors with the push of a button. The settings can even be adjusted to open when it detects people within certain radius for a hands-free entry when you come home with groceries.

Aon Tia: "travel, transportation"

• Supply Shipments: Manufacturers can move anything in bulk to predefined loading areas for stores. Eliminate supply line issues entirely, get food to the market without it going bad, a store can even return defective products to the manufacturer in an instant.
• Rapid Response: Robbery in progress? Church on fire? Emergency personnel can now get there in seconds.
  My idea is built around some sort of city-map, where you can rapidly queue up the transportation destination by tapping the location on the map, or a nearby intersection via a grid layout.

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Questions about some of the ideas? Ideas of your own? Feel like the whole concept is ridiculous? Comment down below. All feedback is appreciated here at AonDor Enterprises.

Final Note: This thread was inspired by me attempting to rationalize a way to make AonDor viable in combat, which was originally inspired the Combat Feruchemy thread. And yes, I spent way too long on this. I've got another one lined up for Fabrial-Tech if I can come up with enough practical applications.

Edited September 14, 2017 by The One Who Connects
Corrected Aon Kii definition.

[Oversleep]

That list will be useful if I ever get myself to start cracking at AonDor hacking. Or start hacking at cracking.

Programming anyway.

Edited June 21, 2017 by Oversleep

[The One Who Connects he/him]

9 minutes ago, Oversleep said:

That list will be useful if I ever get myself to start cracking at AonDor hacking. Or start hacking at cracking.

Programming anyway.

Glad to be of help. I guess this means I haven't committed any major fouls in my assumptions about powers?

[SilverTiger she/her]

Aon Kii is actually "Justice", not "Light, Illumination". And when drawn it causes the guilty to feel pain, not change color.

Edited September 14, 2017 by SilverTiger

[Nathrangking he/him]

Aon Are "Unity,Cohesion"

• suppresses rioting or raises morale by causing everyone to join together towards a common goal.
• reduces waste by repairing any and all broken objects.

Aon Eto: "Body, flesh, muscle"

• Allows for increased success in surgeries.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

3 hours ago, SilverTiger said:

Aon Kii is actually "Justice", not "Light, Illumination".

Well that was a mistype on my part. I'll fix that in a moment. Good eye

3 hours ago, SilverTiger said:

And when drawn it causes the guilty to feel pain, not change color.

But you've lost me here. What did I say to imply color changes?

1 hour ago, Nathrangking said:

Aon Eto: "Body, flesh, muscle"

• Allows for increased success in surgeries.

I figured Eto was the fancy modifiers for Aon Ien healing, hadn't considered that it could be medically oriented on its own. I like that.

1 hour ago, Nathrangking said:

Aon Are "Unity,Cohesion"

• suppresses rioting or raises morale by causing everyone to join together towards a common goal.
• reduces waste by repairing any and all broken objects.

I figured bullet one was more the realm of Aon Omi, since it instills calm and removes negative emotions. The second one though... I don't know about this "removes waste" bit, but the rest kinda fits with how I've theorized the Surge of Cohesion works, so I like it.

[kenod]

How about a combination of Aon Eto and Aon Shao for shape shifting amulets with a set of predefined shapes?

Aon Ire: "time"

• If actually able of changing the flow of time, time stop areas to serve as storage spaces to prevent food from spoiling.

Aon Kaa: "plants"

• Fertilizer.

[Nathrangking he/him]

A combo of Sao:"intelligence/ service", Seo: "Loyalty/service", and Shao :"transformation/change"

• The solution to creating the perfect civil servant or general.

 

[Agent34]

6 hours ago, Nathrangking said:

A combo of Sao:"intelligence/ service", Seo: "Loyalty/service", and Shao :"transformation/change"

• The solution to creating the perfect civil servant or general.

 

I wonder if that could perhaps lead to darker uses of Aon Seo.

[HelloMyNameIsDrBloodborne]

Man, reading that list makes you realize how bad it would be if the Elantrians turned into evil dictators. Advanced weapons, the ability to quell dissent instantly, the ability to determine a person's guilt without a trial. Good thing there isn't a sketchy group of Elantrians out there.

[Farnsworth]

All this makes me wonder what the Dhakor can do, and if it's anything close to this. Brandon doesn't like creating characters with so few weaknesses, so I think he would either make Aons weaker, or make Dhakor really strong.

[Agent34]

2 hours ago, Farnsworth said:

All this makes me wonder what the Dhakor can do, and if it's anything close to this. Brandon doesn't like creating characters with so few weaknesses, so I think he would either make Aons weaker, or make Dhakor really strong.

Although Aons can be very versatile and powerful they take time to draw and have to be perfectly precise in order to work. Keep in mind Selish magics are basically programming reality in one way or another.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

On 9/22/2017 at 5:21 PM, Farnsworth said:

All this makes me wonder what the Dakhor can do, and if it's anything close to this. Brandon doesn't like creating characters with so few weaknesses, so I think he would either make Aons weaker, or make Dakhor really strong.

There are several limiting factors. More than you'd imagine, since you aren't limited by one of them.

• As Agent34 says, they are time consuming to draw out(can be negated by inscribing them on metal plates, but when the Aon setup to turn garbage into food would fill a room, this advantage is lessened)
• As Agent34 says, you have to make the precise lines every time(negated with inscribed plates, but those plates aren't erasable. You'd have to draw up another one to try something different next time)
• Sel itself is still limited by distance, making the Elantrian people powerful only near Elantris. They could conquer Arelon, but they aren't moving past it
• And the last one is the one we all forget: Knowledge. We can imagine Aon Grenades because we have a base to work off of. They don't. The rapid response idea for police/fire rescue would work wonders in a city like Elendel, but Sel doesn't have cities like Elendel. Etc...

[Landis963 he/him]

1 hour ago, The One Who Connects said:

There are several limiting factors. More than you'd imagine, since you aren't limited by one of them.

• As Agent34 says, they are time consuming to draw out(can be negated by inscribing them on metal plates, but when the Aon setup to turn garbage into food would fill a room, this advantage is lessened)
• As Agent34 says, you have to make the precise lines every time(negated with inscribed plates, but those plates aren't erasable. You'd have to draw up another one to try something different next time)
• Sel itself is still limited by distance, making the Elantrian people powerful only near Elantris. They could conquer Arelon, but they aren't moving past it
• And the last one is the one we all forget: Knowledge. We can imagine Aon Grenades because we have a base to work off of. They don't. The rapid response idea for police/fire rescue would work wonders in a city like Elendel, but Sel doesn't have cities like Elendel. Etc...

Elantris and its suburbs might become the safest place in Arelon, though.  And with Raoden in charge, that rapid-response infrastructure might arise very quickly. 

[Walin he/him]

Great I found it! So I’ll necro this. I had the thought that you could make Elantrian buttons (the pressing kind, not the shirt kind). Like, all the Aonic machinery is already scratched in, but the button serves as a thing that makes an essential dot in the Aon (only when an Elantrian presses it, and only when they’re intentionally using the button to access the Dor). That would make Elantrian tech activation simpler than the way I assume the normal way they used to do it. Unless by “activating the light plates by touching them” Galladon meant literally that—no Cognitive commands required.

The button thing would be most useful for weaponry, to deactivate the safety, etc. For other tech things, I think a kind of slider (like making the distance line for Aon Tia) for toggling power (like lights, stoves, hoses, etc.) would be the essential, use-every-time-you-need-the-Aonic-thing part of inscribed machinery.

 

[+Ed Venture]

On 6/20/2017 at 0:09 AM, The One Who Connects said:

Wind Power: If you can make air, you should be able to make wind. Then you utilize that wind with Windmills to produce power. More space efficient and reliable system than normal windmills.

 

On 11/7/2017 at 5:27 PM, Walin said:

Elantrian buttons (the pressing kind, not the shirt kind). Like, all the Aonic machinery is already scratched in, but the button serves as a thing that makes an essential dot in the Aon (only when an Elantrian presses it, and only when they’re intentionally using the button to access the Dor).

Maybe if you combine these two ideas with a gun you could make an on/off wind cannon! I can't think of any real use for this but it could be cool. (like a certain flamethrower idea I can mention)

Edited February 1, 2018 by Szeth-2son-Vallano

[Vogelsang he/him]

3 hours ago, Szeth-2son-Vallano said:

Maybe if you combine these two ideas with a gun you could make an on/off wind cannon! I can't think of any real use for this but it could be cool. (like a certain flamethrower idea I can mention)

Hi Ethan, I've been stalking you.

 

[The One Who Connects he/him]

4 hours ago, Szeth-2son-Vallano said:

Maybe if you combine these two ideas with a gun you could make an on/off wind cannon!

I don't see why not. It's functionally little different than reconfiguring a garden hose into a water cannon.

4 hours ago, Szeth-2son-Vallano said:

I can't think of any real use for this but it could be cool.

Ventilation Systems(because I was stupid when I made the original post). Ventilation is done via moving air. Wind is moving air. I should've made that connection months ago.

Come to think of it, we have small pressurized air canisters(to blow dust out of computer parts/etc..) here on earth. So there's another potential usage, and it gets rid of the "pressurized" danger, which is another plus.

[+Ed Venture]

15 hours ago, The One Who Connects said:

because I was stupid

YOU SIR ARE NOT STUPID YOU ARE A GENIUS! Anyways thanks for finding a good use for my idea other than a fantastical weapon.

[recneps he/him]

On 6/19/2017 at 4:09 PM, The One Who Connects said:

Aon Daa: "power, energy"

• Short Range RPG: Daa projectiles are essentially dumb-fire, so long range isn't as viable.
• "Missile" Emplacements(fixed/mobile): Heavy assumption that you can apply speed modifiers to the launched Daa projectile. They would essentially be a point and click cannon.
• "Ammo": This could potentially replace ammunition in any destructive weaponry. It does magic damage, it's unlimited, it doesn't jam, etc..

 

Why short-range? Why not use it in conjunction with other Aons, like they were designed for, to target a specific location? And if a specific location, why not track a moving object.. And target that specific location? It seems like using Ien and Nae combined with, perhaps, Ene could make a very sophisticated Aonic targeting system and then have a button-press to activate a burst of Daa combined with Tia to send a sharp burst of Power to the location specified by Nae.. Of course, this all would be highly complicated.. Yet if a society can mechanize the basic magic system, it seems that the people who once exclusively used it could afford to spend a few weeks on each new project.

Aon Ene: "wit, cleverness"

Aon Ien: "wisdom"

Aon Nae: "sight, clarity"

[Agent34]

10 hours ago, recneps said:

Why short-range? Why not use it in conjunction with other Aons, like they were designed for, to target a specific location? And if a specific location, why not track a moving object.. And target that specific location? It seems like using Ien and Nae combined with, perhaps, Ene could make a very sophisticated Aonic targeting system and then have a button-press to activate a burst of Daa combined with Tia to send a sharp burst of Power to the location specified by Nae.. Of course, this all would be highly complicated.. Yet if a society can mechanize the basic magic system, it seems that the people who once exclusively used it could afford to spend a few weeks on each new project.

Aon Ene: "wit, cleverness"

Aon Ien: "wisdom"

Aon Nae: "sight, clarity"

Ien's AonDor effect is healing.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

20 hours ago, recneps said:

Why short-range? Why not use it in conjunction with other Aons, like they were designed for, to target a specific location? And if a specific location, why not track a moving object.. And target that specific location? It seems like using Ien and Nae combined with, perhaps, Ene could make a very sophisticated Aonic targeting system and then have a button-press to activate a burst of Daa combined with Tia to send a sharp burst of Power to the location specified by Nae.. Of course, this all would be highly complicated.. Yet if a society can mechanize the basic magic system, it seems that the people who once exclusively used it could afford to spend a few weeks on each new project.

Aon Ene: "wit, cleverness"
Aon Ien: "wisdom"
Aon Nae: "sight, clarity"

Ene: Emits a light that enhances mental capacities, Linking Aon to control the timing of activating Aon Chains
Ien: Healing (as Agent34 mentioned)
Nae: functionally a magnifying glass

None of these are actually that helpful for what you are thinking of. Ien is healing, which is irrelevant. Nae is a magnifying glass, and doesn't appear to target or specify anything. In it's base form, it requires an Elantrian to move it around(granted, you'd have to move it if you put it in a scope too, so..) Ene is the only one that has potential, but that'd be in the timing department, where it would probably end up anyway.

Targeting a specific location was never out of the question. Aon Daa is essentially a dumb fire grenade/rocket that doesn't fall to gravity. If the target doesn't move, then as long as you aim it correctly, it will hit the target. The problem with dumb fire is that as you aim further away, there is more opportunities for something to cross it's path and end it early. That's why the missile emplacement runs under the assumption that you can enhance it with speed modifiers, and why the RPG idea was short-range.

The problem with tracking a moving target is that it's still dumb fire at the end of the day. We don't presently know of any Aons that could change that, it if is even changeable. And that doesn't even delve into how it would target this object. First, you'd need an Aon that detects things(it stands to reason that there is one), and then you'd have to do... extensive coding(and/or have an Elantrian constantly on standby). You can't just have the code detect and target "anything that moves" for obvious reasons, so you'd need to add specificity.

Aon Ien needs modifiers(probably Aon Eto) to target specific parts of the body to maximize it's effectiveness, and I'm pretty sure our detector Aon would need to do the same. The code to do so can be done one of two ways: target anything that is part of the list, or target anything that is not part of the list. The first option requires you to know/remember everything the enemy has at their disposal, and falls apart the moment the enemy creates something new, which would require rewriting the code to include it. The second option avoids this issue entirely, but runs the risk of not being specific enough, and needing someone on hand to manually specify on a case by case basis. If we were running a missile turret, then that'd probably be fine. But this is an RPG, and you're in the field.

As for the Aon Tia idea, that was never gonna work. It's a fixed point that you teleport to: This distance in that direction. It's no different from leading your shot the normal way, just with a shorter lead time. But you'd have to specify the exact location that the target will be at when you fire, which requires much more effort on your part than manually leading your shot.

[The Young Pyromancer he/him]

Aon Daa could make a small zone that boosts the power of other Aons. Shao could make an "Aon factory" which could produce metal Daa power boosting plates. Ien/Ene and Daa factory = infinite intelligence. Ire = super Taravaugians? Edo + Daa booster zone makes unbreakable armour. Omi and Daa make mind control. Daa makes everything ridiculous.

Edited February 13, 2018 by TheYoungPyromancer
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[Agent34]

2 hours ago, TheYoungPyromancer said:

Aon Daa could make a small zone that boosts the power of other Aons. Shao could make an "Aon factory" which could produce metal Daa power boosting plates. Ien/Ene and Daa factory = infinite intelligence. Ire = super Taravaugians? Edo + Daa booster zone makes unbreakable armour. Omi and Daa make mind control. Daa makes everything ridiculous.

Aon Daa has only been used as an attack Aon. Where'd you get power enhancement from?

[The One Who Connects he/him]

7 hours ago, Agent34 said:

Aon Daa has only been used as an attack Aon. Where'd you get power enhancement from?

He's going off the "definitions." He made the same "Ien = wisdom" mistake Recneps made on Thursday.

The words that Aon Daa represent are "power, energy." It's a reasonable enough assumption to make, and it's essentially the one that I made about Aon Rao(except I have the Ars Arcanum backing me up)

10 hours ago, TheYoungPyromancer said:

1. Aon Daa could make a small zone that boosts the power of other Aons.
2. Shao could make an "Aon factory" which could produce metal Daa power boosting plates.
3. Ien/Ene and Daa factory = infinite intelligence.
4. Ire = super Taravaugians?
5. Edo + Daa booster zone makes unbreakable armour.
6. Omi and Daa make mind control.

1. Maybe not. Aon Rao though... "In AonDor, Aon Rao serves as a power amplifier."
2. Sort-of. You could use a plate inscribed with Shao & specific modifiers so you could mass-produce plates, but I'm not certain you could use an Aon to inscribe an Aon onto something.
3. At present, Ien is healing. Aon Ene though... you aren't gonna be hitting Taravangian level, but you could probably get close to a Zinc Compounder.
4. Ire is "time, age." I'm not seeing the Taravangian connection here.
5. Unless you've got a magical method, Edo is already unbreakable. It draws power from the Dor to match whatever physical force it's up against. (You raise a valid question, albeit unintentionally. What would a stronger Edo shield do, if it's already unbreakable?)
6. No. "Boosting the Power of" is not the same as "Change the Ability of." Mistborn Spoilers:

Spoiler

Omi removes negative emotions, so it's basically Soothing. A Metallic Arts version of a power boost would be Duralumin.
We've had a Duralumin boosted Soothing on someone, and while Straff was heavily numbed by the experience, he was not controlled.