Shattered he/him Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I'm sure this has been done somewhere else at some point, but I'm not particularly cosmere-savvy at this point and I want to change that. It has recently come to my attention that there have been more appearances by worldhoppers than I had previously imagined. So this topic is so that I and the other uninitiated can be enlightened as to who these buggers are and where they show up. Here's who I have so far: Hoid (shows up everywhere) Khriss (shows up in Secret History, writes the Ars Arcanums?) Nazh (shows up with Khriss in Secret History) The Ire (also in Secret History, from Sel?) Galladon, Demoux, Guy I don't Remember (In WoK looking for Hoid) Now, basically all of these people except for Hoid are obviously shown to be worldhoppers where they appear, but apparently there are some that are hidden. So, is there anyone else? Where do they show up, and what do we know about them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemalurgist Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Mairze and Lyatil. I'm not sure if it is know for certain that the two of them are worldhoppers but they have items that appear to be from other worlds and Lyatil is descended from a group of people who are from a different planet. Edited March 7, 2016 by Hemalurgist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patar he/him Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I believe we can add Vasher/Zahel to that list. There is also the Terriswoman that it highly suspected to be the nurse in Warbreaker. I believe her name is Aslydin, though I may be wrong on that account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Nazh also gets/annotates a lot of the maps in the front of books, and draws the bridge four brand page in WoR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladex454 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 The person who's with Galladon and Demoux is according to the coppermind someone from White Sand named Baon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PallonianFire he/him Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) There's also a kandra worldhopper, somewhere in there. Though how we're supposed to figure out who that would be is beyond me. Edited March 7, 2016 by PallonianFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) 17th Shard (Organization): -Frost. Possible leader. Dragon from Yolen. Sender of "The Letter" In WoK epigraphs. (Not technically a Worldhopper) -Khriss. Scientist from Taldain. Dark skin and dark hair in a braid. Writer of the Ars Arcanums. Seen in Secret History, White Sand and Bands of Mourning. -Nazh. A Threnodite in the employ of Khriss. May not be a full member of the 17th Shard. Seen in Secret History and Words of Radiance. Annotates maps and drawings. Most likely referenced in Bands of Mourning broadsheets. -Galladon. Sellish Duladen Elantrian. Seen on Roshar looking for Hoid. -Demoux. Former general of The Last Emperor of The Final Empire, Scadrial. Also seen on Roshar looking for Hoid. Possibly in a romantic relationship, speculated to be the Terriswoman Worldhopper. Atium Misting. -Baon. From Taldain. Seen on Roshar looking for Hoid. Ghostbloods: -Thaidakar. Possible leader of the Ghostbloods, and therefore a potential Worldhopper. -Iyatil. South Scadrian Hunter in descent, but raised on a different planet. Babsk to Mraize. Seen in Words of Radiance. -Mraize. Rosharan Thaylen. Collects various artifacts from several Shardworlds. Confirmed Worldhopper. Apprentice to Iyatil. Others: -Kelsier (Probably. So likely that I will literally not believe it if it turns out he's not). Survivor of Hathsin. Sliver of Preservation. The Sovereign. Former Mistborn. Hemalurgic user. Fullborn. - Aslydin. Possible Terriswoman Worldhopper. Possible romantic relationship with Demoux. -Hoid/Wit/Dust/Topaz/Cephandrius Maxatori/Midius. Yolish in origin. Witnessed the Shattering of Adonalsium. Access to many magics including but not limited to: Yolish Lightweaving, Breaths (at least 200), Allomancy, Feruchemy (probably through knowledge of unkeyed metalminds from South Scadrial), Moon Scepter. Seen or referenced in most books. Goals unknown. -Vasher/Zahel/Kalad/Peacegiver/Warbreaker. Returned from Nalthis. One of the Five Scholars. Co-forger of Nightblood. Seen in Warbreaker and Words of Radiance. -The Ire. Ancient Elantrian Worldhoppers. Own a castle in the Cognitive Realm on the border of Scadrial and an unknown planet. Intended to pick up the Shard of Preservation. Access to unknown magics and the Dor. -Unknown Kandra(s). -Nightblood. Forged by the Fives Scholars as an Awakened Sword with the Intent to Destroy Evil. Currently in the possession of Szeth, the Assassin in White. Seen on Nalthis and Roshar. -Jasnah. Possible Worldhopper. Elsecaller from Roshar. Can enter the Cognitive Realm from anywhere. Entered fully when presumed dead, and possibly Worldhopped much like Kelsier. Most likely knows about other planets. -Felt. Seen on Scadrial as the Venture master spy, and on Roshar as a scout. Unknown motives. Possibly WalDo due to his spy nature. Confirmed by Brandon at JordanCon. Edited for some corrections and additions. Edited April 27, 2016 by Khyrindor 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari he/him Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 There's also a kandra worldhopper, somewhere in there. Though how we're supposed to figure out who that would be is beyond me. Look for someone suspiciously afraid of acid, or surviving normally-fatal accidents with nothing worse than broken bones. Or someone who is failing to act in character, I guess, although Kandra are usually very good at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate he/him Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Look for someone suspiciously afraid of acid, or surviving normally-fatal accidents with nothing worse than broken bones. Or someone who is failing to act in character, I guess, although Kandra are usually very good at that. Or they are observed eating "aged" (rotten) meat, or look hungrily at an old rotten corpse. There's also the fact that their 'a's are pronounced a bit wrong. Not sure if that would be noticed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three1415 Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Ghostbloods: -Restares. Possible leader of the Ghostbloods, and therefore a potential Worldhopper. -Iyatil. South Scadrian Hunter in descent, but raised on a different planet. Babsk to Mraize. Seen in Words of Radiance. -Mraize. Rosharan Thaylen. Collects various artifacts from several Shardworlds. Confirmed Worldhopper. Apprentice to Iyatil. It should be noted that Restares appears to be a high-ranking member of the Sons of Honor (Amaram's secret society), not the Ghostbloods; the two organizations are unlikely to be on friendly terms considering the Ghostbloods tried to have Amaram assassinated. Likewise, they harbor deep misconceptions about what actually happened to the Heralds, and organizations with such limited knowledge (unless, of course, they are being manipulated somehow) are unlikely to have Worldhoppers, seeing as the latter by virtue of their nature are inclined to know far more about Cosmere-scale events than the average Shardworld denizen. Edited March 8, 2016 by Three1415 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 It should be noted that Restares appears to be a high-ranking member of the Sons of Honor (Amaram's secret society), not the Ghostbloods; the two organizations are unlikely to be on friendly terms considering the Ghostbloods tried to have Amaram assassinated. Likewise, they harbor deep misconceptions about what actually happened to the Heralds, and organizations with such limited knowledge (unless, of course, they are being manipulated somehow) are unlikely to have Worldhoppers, seeing as the latter by virtue of their nature are inclined to know far more about Cosmere-scale events than the average Shardworld denizen. I thought that was Thaidakar. Did I mix them up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Or they are observed eating "aged" (rotten) meat, or look hungrily at an old rotten corpse. There's also the fact that their 'a's are pronounced a bit wrong. Not sure if that would be noticed. Well, it's only if they accidentally screw up that you would hear the wrong accent. It's just ancient Final Empire 'a' really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hoid's name in the draft of Partinel was Midius, not Meridus, and perfect pitch only requires 200 Breaths, not 300. Restares is the leader of the Sons of Honor, and Thaidakar is the leader of the Ghostbloods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I'll edit my post, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Kandra she/her Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 17th Shard (Organization): -Frost. Possible leader. Dragon from Yolen. Sender of "The Letter" In WoK epigraphs. -Khriss. Scientist from Taldain. Dark skin and dark hair in a braid. Writer of the Ars Arcanums. Seen in Secret History, White Sand and Bands of Mourning. -Nazh. A Threnodite in the employ of Khriss. May not be a full member of the 17th Shard. Seen in Secret History and Words of Radiance. Annotates maps and drawings. Most likely referenced in Bands of Mourning broadsheets. -Galladon. Sellish Duladen Elantrian. Seen on Roshar looking for Hoid. -Demoux. Former general of The Last Emperor of The Final Empire, Scadrial. Also seen on Roshar looking for Hoid. Possibly in a romantic relationship, speculated to be the Terriswoman Worldhopper. Atium Misting. -Baon. From Taldain. Seen on Roshar looking for Hoid. Ghostbloods: -Thaidakar. Possible leader of the Ghostbloods, and therefore a potential Worldhopper. -Iyatil. South Scadrian Hunter in descent, but raised on a different planet. Babsk to Mraize. Seen in Words of Radiance. -Mraize. Rosharan Thaylen. Collects various artifacts from several Shardworlds. Confirmed Worldhopper. Apprentice to Iyatil. Others: -Kelsier. Survivor of Hathsin. Sliver of Preservation. The Sovereign. Former Mistborn. Hemalurgic user. - Aslydin. Possible Terriswoman Worldhopper. Possible romantic relationship with Demoux. -Hoid/Wit/Dust/Topaz/Cephandrius Maxatori/Midius. Yolish in origin. Witnessed the Shattering of Adonalsium. Access to many magics including but not limited to: Yolish Lightweaving, Breaths (at least 200), Allomancy, Feruchemy (probably through knowledge of unkeyed metalminds from South Scadrial), Moon Scepter. Seen or referenced in most books. Goals unknown. -Vasher/Zahel/Kalad/Peacegiver/Warbreaker. Returned from Nalthis. One of the Five Scholars. Co-forger of Nightblood. Seen in Warbreaker and Words of Radiance. -The Ire. Ancient Elantrian Worldhoppers. Own a castle in the Cognitive Realm on the border of Scadrial and an unknown planet. Intended to pick up the Shard of Preservation. Access to unknown magics and the Dor. -Unknown Kandra(s). -Nightblood. Forged by the Fives Scholars as an Awakened Sword with the Intent to Destroy Evil. Currently in the possession of Szeth, the Assassin in White. Seen on Nalthis and Roshar. -Jasnah. Possible Worldhopper. Elsecaller from Roshar. Can enter the Cognitive Realm from anywhere. Entered fully when presumed dead, and possibly Worldhopped much like Kelsier. Most likely knows about other planets. Edited for some corrections. We have no proof (yet) that Kelsier is a worldhopper (despite the it's super likely, you should probably correct that for completeness...that should also probably include implausible Fullborn headache, too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 We have no proof (yet) that Kelsier is a worldhopper (despite the it's super likely, you should probably correct that for completeness...that should also probably include implausible Fullborn headache, too). Well, in Secret History, he went further away from Scadrial than Ruin could, which implies that he left the world. Whether he knew what he was doing or not, he left Scadrial. However, it was still all misty so he probably didn't "totally" leave, he might have been close by, halfway out, or perhaps on another planet in the greater Scadrial system. Or something. Either way, while it's not confirmed, I have no doubts that Kell has left again in search of answers, once he found a body to Worldhop with (which we know he did). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzy Kandra she/her Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Well, in Secret History, he went further away from Scadrial than Ruin could, which implies that he left the world. Whether he knew what he was doing or not, he left Scadrial. However, it was still all misty so he probably didn't "totally" leave, he might have been close by, halfway out, or perhaps on another planet in the greater Scadrial system. Or something. Either way, while it's not confirmed, I have no doubts that Kell has left again in search of answers, once he found a body to Worldhop with (which we know he did). He was on the (sub)-astral location between worlds (space, the final frontier...I shouldn't make a Star Trek joke). I have no doubt, either, but then again, it seems that Marsh hasn't left yet, so...I guess I just want a complete confirmation. *shrug* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pechvarry Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Wow, great list, Khyrindor! I really like the inclusion of known names and titles. Cosmere Theory: anyone with at least 3 names or 3 distinct, impressive-sounding titles is clearly a world-hopper. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Thank you, Pechvarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnikoliNightmareVision she/her Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Could it be possible that anyone that use magic in cosmere/are connected to investure can somehow worldhop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashan’Elin he/him Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Could it be possible that anyone that use magic in cosmere/are connected to investure can somehow worldhop? I would expect that anyone is able to Worldhop if they're Invested at all, we're not sure quite how the perpendicularities work however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Well, physically speaking you seem to just jump into the pool most of the time. Though some fancy manipulating of power is probably going on in there. Shardpools seem capable of vaporizing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I imagine it has to do with Intent. If you go into the pool with the Intent to switch to the Cognitive Realm, that's what will happen. Vin entered to Ascend, and that's what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulcastJam he/him Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 We know that everyone on Scadrial and Nalthis are born with investment. I assume that's true to some extent on all shard-worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyrindor he/him Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I believe there was a WoB saying a Drab could not worldhop. It might be the same for a regular skaa with no noble parentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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