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Arraenae

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Arraenae, unless you flesh out that baseless logic. Is it against the usual policy here to make assumptions about what Eliminators would be like? Because it seems to me that we should be forming suspicions of people based on how we think Eliminators are likely to act. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't think that Eliminators are more likely to have a greater sense of the necessity of keeping their Aviar?  

As I said, I wasn't sure why I was suspicions of you, since it was a gut suspicion. Sometimes my gut is accurate, sometimes it isn't, but it never gives me reasons, just general feelings of mistrust. (Sometimes I think it's just paranoia.) That's why I put a poke vote on you, to see your reaction. Now that you've responded, I think you probably aren't an eliminator, so Water.

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Retracting from Arraenae.

And IrulelikeSTINK, I can go for that.

GMs, what happens if the first person to vote in a lynch is the person being lynched? o.O

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Stink, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much of that reveal was silly!Stink?

 

Ah screw it, I'll officially come out. 

 

I got the role where you get to know a mentor AKA an inno. That person was PK. 

 

So yeah, I don't mind if people want to lynch me to check, that would easily give us the first confirmed person at the least, and a win is a win, even if I'm dead. 

 

Arraenae.

 

STINK.

Stink, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much of that reveal was silly!Stink?

 

I'd vote for you for being suspicious, but that's what you want. That reveal was a terrible idea.

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Maill is probably my biggest suspicion at the moment. All of his posts seem off, and honestly, I'm not quite understanding the PK or Ada suspicions.

 

Ripple's suspicion list

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1   IrulelikeSTINK - Claimed Sori - active C1, C2

2   Mailliw73 - Suspicion - active C1, C2

3   phattemer - Regular Trapper - active C1

4   Shallan - No Read - active C1

5   Kynedath - No Read - active C1

6   TheSilverDragon - No Read - active C1, C2

7   Hellscythe - Slight Suspicion - active C1, C2

8   Adavantos - No Read - active C1, C2

9   Arraenae - No Read - active C1, C2

10 polkinghornbd - No Read - active C2

11 TheMightyLopen - No Read - active C1

12 Paranoid King -  Villager according to Stink - active C1, C2

13 Water - No Read - active C1, C2

14 Elbereth - No Read - active C1

15 RippleGylf - Villager (not that anyone would actually take my word for it) - active C1, C2

16 Clanky - Tentative Villager - active C1, C2

17 Elkanah - No Read - active C1

18 luckat - No Read - active C1, C2

Hellscythe's code is not spooky, by the way

Key: Villager-->Eliminator

Can't use red, obviously.

Hellscythe, you enjoying that new Aviar? Beauty is rather perilous.

Got ninja'd a bit while writing this. (and by a bit I mean 9 posts O.O) List is up to date.

Edited by RippleGylf
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Ah screw it, I'll officially come out. 

 

I got the role where you get to know a mentor AKA an inno. That person was PK. 

 

So yeah, I don't mind if people want to lynch me to check, that would easily give us the first confirmed person at the least, and a win is a win, even if I'm dead. 

 

Arraenae.

 

STINK.

...Are you really tired or something? Is this an attempt to kill discussion by killing you? You might be able to accomplish more while you're alive. But I can confirm Stink's assessment. I am indeed a villager.

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Well, I certainly would be fine with living, but seeing as there will always be the 'STINK could be an eliminator with PK' complaints (a valid one) that the eliminators can play on, I might as well commit the whole way. Always 100% I am.

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Maill is probably my biggest suspicion at the moment. All of his posts seem off, and honestly, I'm not quite understanding the PK or Ada suspicions.

 

Ripple's suspicion list

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1   IrulelikeSTINK - Claimed Sori - active C1, C2

2   Mailliw73 - Suspicion - active C1, C2

3   phattemer - Regular Trapper - active C1

4   Shallan - No Read - active C1

5   Kynedath - No Read - active C1

6   TheSilverDragon - No Read - active C1, C2

7   Hellscythe - Slight Suspicion - active C1, C2

8   Adavantos - No Read - active C1, C2

9   Arraenae - No Read - active C1, C2

10 polkinghornbd - No Read - INactive C1

11 TheMightyLopen - No Read - active C1

12 Paranoid King -  Villager according to Stink - active C1, C2

13 Water - No Read - active C1, C2

14 Elbereth - No Read - active C1

15 RippleGylf - Villager (not that anyone would actually take my word for it) - active C1

16 Clanky - Tentative Villager - active C1, C2

17 Elkanah - No Read - active C1

18 luckat - No Read - active C1, C2

Hellscythe's code is not spooky, by the way

Key: Villager-->Eliminator

Can't use red, obviously.

Hellscythe, you enjoying that new Aviar? Beauty is rather perilous.

Got ninja'd a bit while writing this. (and by a bit I mean 9 posts O.O) List is up to date.

Can I ask if there's anything in specific that ruins your trust of me? You had me as tentative villager earlier, and now I'm your biggest suspicion?

 

The Wise of the Day began his duty once more. Setting traps, using Aviar, being careful. The hidden traps were a danger for those not wise enough to spot them. Only fools rushed about on the island. Those who were quick to judge and easy to fool ruin their lives. 

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Can I ask if there's anything in specific that ruins your trust of me? You had me as tentative villager earlier, and now I'm your biggest suspicion?

 

The Wise of the Day began his duty once more. Setting traps, using Aviar, being careful. The hidden traps were a danger for those not wise enough to spot them. Only fools rushed about on the island. Those who were quick to judge and easy to fool ruin their lives. 

 

My original thinking that you were a tentative villager was based entirely on your first post vote for Stink last cycle. I assumed that since you were one of the first to post, you weren't trying to deflect attention, hence villager. However, the wording of your posts overall seems off. I'm sorry I'm not making it easy for you to defend, it's mostly gut at this point.

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It's ridiculous and foolhardy to vote someone just so you can make a pun involving their username. I'll put the same question to you as I put to Arraenae regarding my comments on Aviar, but you have a valid point about the votes. Let's see, I made some comments about Aviar protection, said that Eliminators are probably more likely to want to protect them, and then voted for the first person who fit that model. Did I pointedly suspect theSilverDragon of being an Eliminator? No. But it's better than a one-liner vote that I try to pass off a joke.

Additionally (and don't say I'm playing the "noob card"), there's much about the meta of these games that I have yet to learn. Until I play some games and get used to it, if you think I'm misunderstanding something, tell me. If not, don't treat me like a noob. I don't want to be "that guy" who always plays the noob card, but I do want to understand typical things that everyone here already knows and takes for granted. /rant

 

Water, I would say that Hells vote was purely a poke vote. People often think of silly reasons to put votes on early when there isn't really anything to be suspicious for. So I wouldn't place too much emphasis on like that.

 

So I'm thinking that hidden or mind-force were probably the main two possibilities. Do we think it's worthwhile to get people to reveal if they Mind-forced anyone so that we can hopefully focus especially on them as potential people who got role-blocked? Not that that is the only option but I just thought we could definitely use it as a starting point for conversations.

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Well, I certainly would be fine with living, but seeing as there will always be the 'STINK could be an eliminator with PK' complaints (a valid one) that the eliminators can play on, I might as well commit the whole way. Always 100% I am.

And it would have worked too, if Kynedath hadn't contacted me pretending to be Sori. Only one of these people is Sori, and I'm willing to lynch the less open one to confirm Stink's innocence.

 

Edit: and before anyone brings it up, what reason have I to lie? If I were an eliminator trying to protect stink, I'd only be delaying his death for another cycle, and killing myself as well. If I were an eliminator trying to protect Kynedath somehow, I'd be going about it in a very strange way. And If I'm a villager, I have no reason to lie.

Edited by Paranoid King
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My original thinking that you were a tentative villager was based entirely on your first post vote for Stink last cycle. I assumed that since you were one of the first to post, you weren't trying to deflect attention, hence villager. However, the wording of your posts overall seems off. I'm sorry I'm not making it easy for you to defend, it's mostly gut at this point.

Everyone, for the most part, sounds off. We're all forcing phrases into our posts.

 

Violent white text. Stay away!

And it would have worked too, if Kynedath hadn't contacted me pretending to be Sori. Only one of these people is Sori, and I'm willing to lynch the less open one to confirm Stink's innocence.

There's nothing that says that we can't have two Sori. Hold on to your assumptions until more of the day has passed.

 

Mind Force people, I recommend PK and Stink for your targets.

Edited by Mailliw73
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So you just gave away Kynedath's role and Aviar. Would you guys like to hand the eliminators any other targets?

 

Also I don't remember anywhere saying that multiple Sori can't have the same.... ninjaed by Mail saying the same thing.

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Violent white text. Stay away!

And it would have worked too, if Kynedath hadn't contacted me pretending to be Sori. Only one of these people is Sori, and I'm willing to lynch the less open one to confirm Stink's innocence.

 

Well that is interesting. GMs is Sori a role that only one person can have such like the Shards in LG 15 or is it just a role any amount of people can have? Either way I would like to hear from Kynedath and STINK on this. I don't really like STINKs way of revealing it his claim. Either way I think we can agree that PK is a trapper.

 

EDIT:  Ninja'd by Maill and Hell, basically saying the same thing. Fixed trapper and trader. Words are so confusing.

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After checking the facts, I have concluded that I must be evil, and that clearly Kynedath is 100% inno.

I mean, I've already voted for me! My gut is great at finding da evils.

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So you just gave away Kynedath's role and Aviar. Would you guys like to hand the eliminators any other targets?

This is actually what we have protection-type roles for, so people with useful roles can publicly talk and be trusted.
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There's nothing that says that we can't have two Sori. Hold on to your assumptions until more of the day has passed.

...what? I thought I had read… *bashes head against wall* How did I think there was only 1 sori? From now on, I’m checking the rules before every post even remotely related to the rules. Kynedath’s probably good, guys.

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Violent white text. Stay away!

And it would have worked too, if Kynedath hadn't contacted me pretending to be Sori. Only one of these people is Sori, and I'm willing to lynch the less open one to confirm Stink's innocence.

 

Edit: and before anyone brings it up, what reason have I to lie? If I were an eliminator trying to protect stink, I'd only be delaying his death for another cycle, and killing myself as well. If I were an eliminator trying to protect Kynedath somehow, I'd be going about it in a very strange way. And If I'm a villager, I have no reason to lie.

I wasn't pretending to ba a Sori, I am one.  I don't know if there can be more than one Sori per villager, but I don't see why there can't be. At this point, I think that we can all agree that PK is innocent and at the very least, one of his alleged Sori's is telling the truth. It would be legitimately terrible idea to send two fake Sori's at someone. STINK has never made sense to me, so I don't know if he is an eliminator or not.

 

STINK, I have no idea at what you are playing at, but your posts make literally zero sense to me, so I don't know what to make of you.

 

However, I would like to ask that I receive protection since everybody knows what I have. If you don't then I have the messenger Aviar. Unfortunately, I can only talk to one person per cycle, so if you guys want me to transmit a message, then it will have to be over a couple of cycles. Other than that, my aviar can only really be used for personal use. If you guys have some other use for my ability, then please feel free to say it.

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I find it difficult to understand why PK was so ready to accuse me of being a traitor. I have known for a while that it is a  fact that going on an offensive is natural to those who have suspicions, but to cause an attack on an ally who is worthy of aggressive defense is to pose for the nightwatcher herself. I wish to spin you all a tale of light and false progress, but I would save them the trouble of playing the game. Simply put, my opinion is an example of truth in a swamp of lies.Proven

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                      

 

I want to reiterate that the above is not an accurate representation of my thought, but simply a method to fulfill the requirements of this game's code policies. I have not given any information as to my intentions nor my feelings. These are just ramblings of me trying to intentionally put 28 different words into a semi-coherent paragraph.Trustworthy

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I'm sorry I missed the first cycle, guys.  Didn't check my e-mail for a day.  Always seems to happen on the important days.  I seem to remember Stink trying to get himself killed from another game, though.  I am going to be voting for PK, because he seems to be giving off the strangest vibes. I don't like the 0/17, 1/17 logic.  I don't think that it is correct to jump from me being inactive direct to me being an eliminator.  I was the only inactive.  If I was an eliminator, I should have at least one other person who would pick up the slack.

Edited by polkinghornbd
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I'm sorry I missed the first cycle, guys.  Didn't check my e-mail for a day.  Always seems to happen on the important days.  I seem to remember Stink trying to get himself killed from another game, though.  I am going to be voting for PK, because he seems to be giving off the strangest vibes. I don't like the 0/17, 1/17 logic.  I don't think that it is correct to jump from me being inactive direct to me being an eliminator.  I was the only inactive.  If I was an eliminator, I should have at least one other person who would pick up the slack.

 

You do realize that you just voted for the one person that can easily be considered to definitely be a trapper? I won't say that he had perfect logic for everything he has said but it is very unlikely that he is a trader. That would mean that STINK and Kynedath both are also traitors. While I would commend such a bold strategy I doubt that anyone would be brave enough to pull it off. 

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