King's Twit Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Hey, I wasn't really sure what to do with this, but I have a new WoB on Awakening and Nightblood. I figured this might be the best place for it. Me: About Awakening, If Vasher and Shashara had done the exact same process they did to Awaken Nightblood, but on a weapon made of stone or obsidian, would the alternate Awakened weapon be functionally identical to Nightblood? Assume the weapon is the exact same shape as Nightblood. I may be way off base, but I've had this budding theory that metal interacts with Investiture differently from other substances. Brandon: Stone would have reacted differently indeed. I figure that this has two possible implications. Either stone reacts differently to Investiture than metal by virtue of being a different material (as in this would be true for any two different materials), or metal actually does interact with Investiture, or at least with Breath, in a unique way because of the properties of metals. Thoughts? Edited December 14, 2015 by The King's Twit 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Thanks for the new WoB! May I ask where you got it? As for your interesting theory, I like it! But I'm biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Hmm. Hmmmm. Hmmmmmm. Show me yer theories, metalheads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ooh. My first thought is that stone is easier to Awaken, so you use less Breath to awaken it, so you don't get sentience but do get a disintegration enchantment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ooh. My first thought is that stone is easier to Awaken, so you use less Breath to awaken it, so you don't get sentience but do get a disintegration enchantment. May be also the opposite, that the Stone is harder to Awaken than the Metal. Or have we some clues about ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 My first thought is that Stone and Metal are two of the Ten Essences, and the different essences may react differently to different Investiture. Just a thought. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Twit Posted December 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 Thanks for the new WoB! May I ask where you got it? As for your interesting theory, I like it! But I'm biased. It is from a Reddit PM. And I don't think our theories are necessarily incompatible (especially since mine isn't really a theory yet). It could be that metal on Nalthis is attuned to specifically interact with Investiture in a certain way, like the allomantic metals on Scadrial, if I'm understanding you're theory correctly. Or Moogle is correct and it is just a matter of metal requiring a different number of breaths to awaken than stone, which causes different manifestations of power in the awakened weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm sure there is some sanderword about investiture being attuned to crystal structure. Metal indeed has crystal properties different from other substances, because of electron delocalization. Uhm. Makes me wonder how would investiture react with nanotubes or graphene... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) I'm sure there is some sanderword about investiture being attuned to crystal structure. Metal indeed has crystal properties different from other substances, because of electron delocalization. Uhm. Makes me wonder how would investiture react with nanotubes or graphene... This is a really long wait to Fourth Scadrial Era, isn't it? Edited December 14, 2015 by Oversleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaa Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) It is from a Reddit PM. And I don't think our theories are necessarily incompatible (especially since mine isn't really a theory yet). It could be that metal on Nalthis is attuned to specifically interact with Investiture in a certain way, like the allomantic metals on Scadrial, if I'm understanding you're theory correctly. Or Moogle is correct and it is just a matter of metal requiring a different number of breaths to awaken than stone, which causes different manifestations of power in the awakened weapons. Sorry, I must be using the phrase "I like it, but I'm biased" incorrectly. I wasn't saying our theories are incompatible. I was saying I'm biased in favor of metal being special, so my being drawn to your theory wasn't a result of critical thinking but rather a result of my bias. It was a bit of (badly-executed) self-deprecating humor. Oh, and thanks again for the WoB! Edited December 15, 2015 by skaa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Twit Posted December 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Ah, that makes more sense. I thought you were saying "I like it, but I'm biased toward my theory instead." My mistake. I do really like your theory, though. I understand why you would be biased toward it over others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamEternal Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I'm sure there is some sanderword about investiture being attuned to crystal structure. Metal indeed has crystal properties different from other substances, because of electron delocalization. Uhm. Makes me wonder how would investiture react with nanotubes or graphene... I think you are talking about the crystal structure of metals in Scadrial working like the shape of Aons does on Sel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.S.A.M.K.M Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 Is a divine breath the equivalent to some number of mundane breaths? Or does it carry something more inside of it. Why would they gather the returned, would it not make sense to spread them to best ensure the breaths reach where they can help the most? Unless there is some unknown needs for a large concentration of divine breaths in one locations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 24, 2015 Report Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Is a divine breath the equivalent to some number of mundane breaths? Or does it carry something more inside of it. Why would they gather the returned, would it not make sense to spread them to best ensure the breaths reach where they can help the most? Unless there is some unknown needs for a large concentration of divine breaths in one locations. the Divine Breath are different from "just" thousands of Breaths. There is people who has the same number of Breaths of a Returned but as far as we know they have not any of the Returned specific powers (no shapeshifting and no Overpowered Healing). In realmatic term, the Divine Breath is a Splinter of Endowment (like Spren/Seon/Skaze are Splinter of Honor&Cultivation/Devotion/Dominion) while a Breath isn't anything more than "bit of Investiture" (like the Mist or Stormlight). Edited December 24, 2015 by Yata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoidhunter Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 My first thought is that Stone and Metal are two of the Ten Essences, and the different essences may react differently to different Investiture. Just a thought. This was my first thought...upvote...that's all I've got... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Stone Sword wouldn't be as cool. Thats all i can offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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