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[Voidus]

"Apply for Spokane! Sit and listen to my case for you moving there! Here's a job! You can't miss it since I'm flinging it in your face!" 

 

 

Yes, Mother, I will apply for the stupid job, since you make a good point that if my brother doesn't get this university police job, I'll be glad to have one when I move up to Spokane. But if I get one better offer, I am gone. 

Well if that's all that you get for now at least it gives you the experience as a stepping stone and then you have to deal with her slightly less often.

Good-luck thoughts sent your way for other jobs to come through though.

[Zathoth]

Oh look the philosophical pessimist is going to try to make everyone feel better.

 

It is not your fault that your ancestors were cremlings, none of us invented the idiotic "White mans burden" philosophy which has ruined the world since someone first thought of it. I dont think we should feel guilty for things that happened before any of us were born, as much as we wish that it didnt happen we just have to build from what we have, we have generations of mistakes, maybe, possibly we can fix some things, if we want to, but not all of it.

 

So dont feel guilty, none of it is your fault.

 

i would post pictures of my cats here, but it is in the middle of the night, so you'll have to be without cats.

[Orlion Blight he/him]

Oh look the philosophical pessimist is going to try to make everyone feel better.

 

It is not your fault that your ancestors were cremlings, none of us invented the idiotic "White mans burden" philosophy which has ruined the world since someone first thought of it. I dont think we should feel guilty for things that happened before any of us were born, as much as we wish that it didnt happen we just have to build from what we have, we have generations of mistakes, maybe, possibly we can fix some things, if we want to, but not all of it.

 

So dont feel guilty, none of it is your fault.

 

i would post pictures of my cats here, but it is in the middle of the night, so you'll have to be without cats.

Don't feel guilty? I'll have to disagree with you there. We may not have been the perpetrators of these heinous acts, but guilt gives us a conscience, pushes us to change. If more people in our society felt guilt instead of trying to justify, legitimize, or minimize, we would be a lot further along in making sure these poor people weren't paying for the sins of our parents!

And that's how this philosophical pessimist tries to make folks feel better

[Zathoth]

Don't feel guilty? I'll have to disagree with you there. We may not have been the perpetrators of these heinous acts, but guilt gives us a conscience, pushes us to change. If more people in our society felt guilt instead of trying to justify, legitimize, or minimize, we would be a lot further along in making sure these poor people weren't paying for the sins of our parents!

And that's how this philosophical pessimist tries to make folks feel better

I disagree, thats how you end up with clicktivism "Like if you think this is bad" "Great, now I can go on with my day, I did something good" No you didnt. People just try to escape from the guilt, doesnt matter if it is working or not.

 

... well that didnt solve anything...

[Mistrunner]

Don't feel guilty? I'll have to disagree with you there. We may not have been the perpetrators of these heinous acts, but guilt gives us a conscience, pushes us to change. If more people in our society felt guilt instead of trying to justify, legitimize, or minimize, we would be a lot further along in making sure these poor people weren't paying for the sins of our parents!

And that's how this philosophical pessimist tries to make folks feel better

And I'll disagree again. We can be motivated to make change without feeling guilty for something we didn't do. We can have consciences without having to feel like we must do penance. I believe most people want to do what they feel is right, and guilt just makes people feel bad about themselves.

 

And that's how this... um... whatever you call me tries to make the world better.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

I think there's a middle ground here. People need to be aware of what happened in the past, and they need to be fully aware of how horrible it was in order to know what they need to fix. So guilt does come into play, but I think too much guilt and shame leads to useless gestures, like apology walks and letters from the White House. Those people did something, sure. They didn't change anything, but they did something, and now they feel better. Or maybe they don't, and they'll go on another apology walk tomorrow, circulating pictures of sad people with captions like "FEEL SORRY FOR THEM? 1 LIKE = 1 PRAY!" 

 

Yes, guilt is necessary, but it's only useful so far as it spurs people to useful action. 

[little wilson she/her]

I tried to give blood today. Despite having been poked by needles four times in the last three weeks for blood draws, I wanted to give blood. The Red Cross has been begging me to donate because apparently there's a shortage of O Negative blood (my blood type). Sure, I'm iron deficient (something I just learned last week from the results of the last time I got my blood drawn a little over a week ago), but I've given blood a lot and rarely have problems.

They tested my iron levels twice because the first test was .1 short of the low end for iron. This involves a prick of the finger that tends to hurt worse than the actual giving of the blood. But the second test, my levels were fine. So I got to attempt to give blood.

I say attempt because I spent 10 minutes with a needle in my arm, having them fiddle with it, trying to get my blood to go faster, because apparently it started clotting almost right off the bat. So they couldn't get the full pint. I don't even think they got half a pint, which means they can only use it for research purposes and not to actually help anyone. So I just got poked three times for nothing. And my arm is killing me. It's been almost two hours and it still hurts to bend it. I'm nearly certain I'm going to have a decent-sized bruise. I should've just left after the first prick test failed...

[Guest]

I tried to give blood today. Despite having been poked by needles four times in the last three weeks for blood draws, I wanted to give blood. The Red Cross has been begging me to donate because apparently there's a shortage of O Negative blood (my blood type). Sure, I'm iron deficient (something I just learned last week from the results of the last time I got my blood drawn a little over a week ago), but I've given blood a lot and rarely have problems.

They tested my iron levels twice because the first test was .1 short of the low end for iron. This involves a prick of the finger that tends to hurt worse than the actual giving of the blood. But the second test, my levels were fine. So I got to attempt to give blood.

I say attempt because I spent 10 minutes with a needle in my arm, having them fiddle with it, trying to get my blood to go faster, because apparently it started clotting almost right off the bat. So they couldn't get the full pint. I don't even think they got half a pint, which means they can only use it for research purposes and not to actually help anyone. So I just got poked three times for nothing. And my arm is killing me. It's been almost two hours and it still hurts to bend it. I'm nearly certain I'm going to have a decent-sized briuse. I should've just left after the first prick test failed...

 

Look at the bright side: at least you didn't faint  Happened to me the first time I gave blood     

[Silverblade5 he/him]

To add further to the horribleness of it all: for all western society talks now about having advanced beyond this, for all the governments of the world repent and apologize for destroying traditional cultures, those cultures are still not allowed to live as they traditionally did any more.

I have in my ancestry people who raised their children in huts and hunted deer with bows and arrows in the forests their own ancestors had grown up in. If I hatched a family and tried to raise my own kids out in nature in such a way, I'd either be arrested for hunting/fishing without a license, arrested for violating a property law somewhere along the line, or I'd have CPS take my children for being in an "unsafe" environment. (By which they really mean "not compliant with superior Westerner dwelling design.")

Western civilization steamrolled over the native cultures they came across, and it's not even possible to revive those cultures because Western laws will have you locked away to rot in a cell for not living in a suitably Western manner. I'm with Elbereth. Let's find ourselves a genie and banish medieval Europe into an alternate dimension.

Or, just travel back in time and sink Columbus

[Mistrunner]

Or, just travel back in time and sink Columbus

Why does everyone hate Columbus? I rather like him. 

[Kobold King he/him]

Why does everyone hate Columbus? I rather like him. 

 

 

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Christopher Columbus orchestrated the systematic enslavement of the Arawak people he discovered while acting as governor of Hispaniola. His atrocities include literally working enslaved Indians to death in his mines and organizing the first trans-Atlantic sexual slavery ring in history.

[Mistrunner]

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Christopher Columbus orchestrated the systematic enslavement of the Arawak people he discovered while acting as governor of Hispaniola. His atrocities include literally working enslaved Indians to death in his mines and organizing the first trans-Atlantic sexual slavery ring in history.

Hmph. That's awful. Faith in humanity has been un-restored. Yet again. Still, his landing did pave the way for some good things. Like this country, which I rather like. Though I know you're an anarchist, so you probably don't agree.

 

And I'm still grumpy from those people who believe Thanksgiving celebrates genocide of Native Americans. 

 

And now I'm sad again, and I have school tomorrow again, and life isn't being very nice.

 

Life should learn how to be nice.

[Orlion Blight he/him]

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Christopher Columbus orchestrated the systematic enslavement of the Arawak people he discovered while acting as governor of Hispaniola. His atrocities include literally working enslaved Indians to death in his mines and organizing the first trans-Atlantic sexual slavery ring in history.

Coupled with the continued exploitation by the mercantile Spaniards under false pretense of converting the heathens,

And I forgot where I was going with this

Edited December 1, 2015 by Ookla the Inscrutable

[Mashadar Mistborn he/him]

Wherever Western civilization spreads, we divide and exploit people and then justify it because they are "inferior." I've always liked the ideas of the Quakers much better than the more expansionist ideas that much of the west is founded on.

*sighs*

We're supposed to be intelligent. Why can't we get along?

[Silverblade5 he/him]

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but Christopher Columbus orchestrated the systematic enslavement of the Arawak people he discovered while acting as governor of Hispaniola. His atrocities include literally working enslaved Indians to death in his mines and organizing the first trans-Atlantic sexual slavery ring in history.

As well as setting in motion herando cortez, as well as the many ecomienda imitators.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Hmph. That's awful. Faith in humanity has been un-restored. Yet again. Still, his landing did pave the way for some good things. Like this country, which I rather like. Though I know you're an anarchist, so you probably don't agree.

And I'm still grumpy from those people who believe Thanksgiving celebrates genocide of Native Americans.

And now I'm sad again, and I have school tomorrow again, and life isn't being very nice.

Life should learn how to be nice.

It wasn't. More a lovely high point before crap hit the fan.

I certainly think it would've been better if America had gone more with the Quaker tradition than the Puritan one. Reformation and Discovery-era Quakers believed that everyone had an "inner light" that spurred them toward goodness and truth; their meetings were gatherings where everyone had a chance to say whatever was on their heart. The Puritan tradition gave us "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" and people who believed Native Americans had to be driven out before God's people could take possession of their land. The Quaker tradition was by no means perfect, but it was better than the alternative.

[Kobold King he/him]

Hmph. That's awful. Faith in humanity has been un-restored. Yet again. Still, his landing did pave the way for some good things. Like this country, which I rather like. Though I know you're an anarchist, so you probably don't agree.

 

 

I like America! I just think it'd be better if it were more of a general continent instead of a country. That's all.

 

 

But since we ruined Columbus for you, why don't we talk about the real discoverer of North America... Leif Erikspug!

 

[Mistrunner]

I like America! I just think it'd be better if it were more of a general continent instead of a country. That's all.

 

 

But since we ruined Columbus for you, why don't we talk about the real discoverer of North America... Leif Erikspug!

 

I did know about him. I was unaware of his interestingly distinct facial features, however.

[Kobold King he/him]

I did know about him. I was unaware of his interestingly distinct facial features, however.

 

 

There are no nasty surprises about Leif Erikspug. There are only cute and snuggly surprises about him. Behind each level of adorableness there are only more adorable little secrets.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

There are no nasty surprises about Leif Erikspug. There are only cute and snuggly surprises about him. Behind each level of adorableness there are only more adorable little secrets.

Upon discovering America, Leif Erikspug spearheaded cheese production so he could share it with everyone. If someone fell behind on their quota, he'd give them sad eyes until they caught up.

[Aonar he/him]

So hi, people who may or may not remember me. I posted once here, what, over a month ago? I figured I might as well update things some. I finally managed to tell my mother about how I've been losing my faith, and, well, it went better than I'd feared, but a lot worse than I'd hoped. I was hoping I might feel less stress, that things might be a little bit better, but now I'm just sad, and angry with myself, and just kind of.... numb. 

 

It feels kind of weird to ask, but could I have a hug? (Or a pug, or whatever?)

[Elbereth she/her]

*hugs*

[Mestiv he/him]

I'm not sure how to feel about the colonization events and extermination of so many nations. I'm from Europe that did all the terrible things, but at the same time I'm from Poland, one of the countries that didn't have any colonies... Guess I'll just feel sad because of all the lives and cultures lost. Humans are the worst monsters on this planet, without a doubt.

 

I'd like to point out, that not every culture that got in touch with Europeans got wiped out or dominated. China and middle east got influenced by us, but those cultures were far from being dominated by Europeans. India, despite being kind of British colony still preserved a lot of it's culture as far as I know. So I guess, those cultures that were growing up with contact with Europe managed to survive as they knew they had to have ways to protect themselves and they learned from Europeans how to fight. While Native Americans had to face battle-hardened Europeans without centuries of experience in war.

 

And to change subject a bit: Something bad happened to my right shoulder and now I can rise my elbow higher than my nippels :/ It hurst badly when I try to raise it higher. The doctor I've visited gave some ointment but it's not helping much... I feel like a half T-Rex having reduced functionality of one arm

[Left he/him]

 

And to change subject a bit: Something bad happened to my right shoulder and now I can rise my elbow higher than my nippels :/ It hurst badly when I try to raise it higher. The doctor I've visited gave some ointment but it's not helping much... I feel like a half T-Rex having reduced functionality of one arm

I'm getting sick, and my shoulder upper back is hurting. I think it's mostly from carrying a massive table down a staircase for my gramma over thanksgiving, plus stressing it with my own weightlifting.

[Voidus]

On the subject of guilt: I don't feel guilty about the murder, the rights abuse or the stolen generation, those were all absolutely horrible things but I didn't do anything to suggest any support of them. My problem lies more in the fact that I live on land that was stolen. That stolen land was then 'sold' to someone who eventually rented it out to me but by paying these people for the land instead of the rightful and original owners I'm implicitly supporting the premise that it was the settlers to sell or rent out.
Then there's the fact that our society still has so many horrible stereotypes about the local aboriginals and those stereotypes along with decreased opportunity and a host of other assorted problems cause many problems for the Aboriginals and those of Torres Straight descent. They have an incredibly high suicide rate (My best friend was half Torres-straight and ended up taking his life so that's a particularly personal point) a very low education graduation rate, a host of medical problems and just a generally worse lifestyle than they should have.

So the whole justification for invading, murdering and stealing land from the aboriginals is also a complete lie because they're far worse off under the influence of western society than they were before hand. For every one saved by western medicine when they would have died earlier there's a dozen who are working in terrible jobs to earn a lower income, suffer from depression, are homeless or have died.