Sanderson Memes

[Quiver he/him]

Way of Kings Prelude Spoilers, I guess?

 

  

 

Edited March 15, 2016 by Quiver

[KnightGradient]

Don't have access to my home computer right now(its where I keep my memes) and don't have time to check this entire thread but just thought of something awesome.

 

Kaladin- "Bridgemen! CANYAH SMEEEEELL! WHAT ROCK! IS COOKIN!"

 

On a legitimate sidenote when reading SA Rock is The Rock. 

[ChickenPlague he/him]

Cosmere alignment chart

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Lawful good is Vin?

Wasn't she a thief and killer breaking multiple laws? Upvote anyways.

[Stormgate he/him]

She was a thief by necessity. Besides, the rules were wrong. Breaking rules is bad. But if the rules themselves are bad, then, by the principle of Double Negatives, Vin was being good.

It's not a case of two wrongs making a right, if you're wondering.

[Kynedath]

I don't think that chickenplague was referring to the good part, but rather the lawful part. At least that's the problem that I see with it.

[Bugsy he/him]

Had to do this

Edited March 17, 2016 by Bugsy6912

[Kynedath]

Wooo! French! Go being semi-fluent in more than just English!

[Brightness Enna she/her]

... um, I had to look it up on Google Translate. On the plus side, now I know something useful in French!

 

 

I'm rereading WoR, and just got to the first Eshonai chapter. I forgot just how awesome this book is.

[natc]

She was a thief by necessity. Besides, the rules were wrong. Breaking rules is bad. But if the rules themselves are bad, then, by the principle of Double Negatives, Vin was being good.

It's not a case of two wrongs making a right, if you're wondering.

But that's just being good.

Lawfulness has nothing to do with whether the rules make sense. It just cares about rules and order. Morality is for the good/evil spectrum.

[Shadowfax]

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This just gave me goosebumps all over. Kudos. And an upvote.

[Brightness Enna she/her]

But that's just being good.

Lawfulness has nothing to do with whether the rules make sense. It just cares about rules and order. Morality is for the good/evil spectrum.

 

Spoiler for HoA

But the time Vin spent holding Preservation might count towards "lawful". If Preservation is defining natural laws (because that power is what gave man sentience and a penchant for honor to begin with), and she sort of is Preservation for a time, then she can be considered the most lawful of all. If you can grasp what I'm trying to say. It makes sense in my head, at least.

Edited March 22, 2016 by Brightness Enna

[Quiver he/him]

[ThirdGen]

 

Well, then...

...no!  Don't do that!  Why are you clicking spoilers?

[Botanica she/her]

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(I’ve already changed the Chinese translation, which means “Shard falling on a [shard]world”.)

Another White Sand related one: Sand Master's Creed

Edited March 21, 2016 by Botanica

[Master Elodin]

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(I’ve already changed the Chinese translation, which means “Shard falling on a [shard]world”.)

Another White Sand related one:

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This is great. Edited March 21, 2016 by Master Elodin

[natc]

Spoilers bro. Just to be safe.

But the time Vin spent holding Preservation might count towards "lawful". If Preservation is defining natural laws (because that power is what gave man sentience and a penchant for honor to begin with), and she sort of is Preservation for a time, then she can be considered the most lawful of all. If you can grasp what I'm trying to say. It makes sense in my head, at least.

Preservation has nothing to do with law and order. If left to its own devices without Ruin it would try to turn Scadrial into a snow globe museum exhibit where nothing changes ever. It's no less harmful to society than Ruin was. It's Preservation, not Honor, we're talking about here. It provided enough investiture for sentience and allomancy, the rest was all on them.

If anything ignoring one's own intent to Preserve all creation to straight up go and slay gods is as unlawful as they come.

Edited March 24, 2016 by natc

[Brightness Enna she/her]

Spoilers bro. Just to be safe.

Woops, thanks. Guess I'll go change that.

 

You make a good point. Preservation isn't Honor. I guess I got caught up in how Preservation is the "good" force and Ruin is the "bad", mostly ignoring intent. I can almost see why Vin was considered Lawful Good, but at the same time, someone else may have made more sense. Dalinar, maybe? Kaladin, kinda? Maybe Sarene or Raoden could count, too.

 

Still, I pretty much wholeheartedly agree with the rest of the chart. (I can't decide - is chaotic evil Stormfather or Odium? Because Stormfather doesn't make much sense to me.)

[Stormgate he/him]

It's Odium. I think. It's the best picture that popped up when I searched for Odium.

[The Sovereign]

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Well done sir. Now to pick nits... I'd argue that any Vessel needs to be Lawfully aligned as they are all bound by the laws of their intent.

[Stormgate he/him]

Well done sir. Now to pick nits... I'd argue that any Vessel needs to be Lawfully aligned as they are all bound by the laws of their intent.

While that's true, some Intents are chaotic and disorderly by nature.

Also, the Shards have some volition. Odium doesn't have to go around destroying Shards, he just does.

[Citadel16 he/him]

actually there is a WoB that says that if honor and odium had been held by different people then they would have attracted each other.

[Oversleep]

While that's true, some Intents are chaotic and disorderly by nature.

Also, the Shards have some volition. Odium doesn't have to go around destroying Shards, he just does.

Shardholders are strictly following rules which make them disorderly... or something...

[Stormgate he/him]

As far as they are concerned, they are following the rules of their natures. However, this occasionally leads to their resident Shardworld experiencing increased entropy as a result of their actions.

You can argue that, as far as they are concerned, the Shards break no laws.

But that's not how justice works. If you follow laws that only apply to you, you're not truly following the laws.

Also, Szeth was bound by the laws governing Truthless.

[Curiosity he/him]

[Sunbird she/her]

Inspired by someone in the "What are you reading" thread who said they skipped to the end of a book:

 

 

Spoiler for that same Alcatraz book (I forget which one it is... Knights of Crystallia?)