LG112 - Pseudocycle Two: First Blood, Digitally

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Qian

Verdance

The bear speaks facts

Edited Monday at 02:11 AM by Hoid Slayer

[coco.pudding she/they]

49 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:

I scanned you as a meta-elim last cycle so we're deciding the best way to execute you

Wait actually?

okay Verdance then ig

edit: wait isn’t this a pseudocycle tho? So shouldn’t we wait until the next metacycle to exe him? Or are we just doing both?

Edited Monday at 02:35 AM by coco.pudding

[Verdance he/him]

Behavior is thrown out the window again because theres another layer

so idek

[Myst He/Him]

Okay, @Araris Valerian I’m assuming you’re claiming Roleplayer for your role. Okay. Got it

Since that gives a false result if the other person also has that role, @Verdance, who did you scan meta cycle 1 and what result did you get back.

But yeah, unless proven otherwise, I think Verdance for now

Araris, why didn’t you claim this earlier?

edit: yall I’m confused

Edited Monday at 03:21 AM by Myst

[___ He/Him]

This is what I mean

What are these hella fast trains

[Verdance he/him]

8 minutes ago, ___ said:

This is what I mean

What are these hella fast trains

Uh huh

exactly why are we immediately trusting Araris on this

i would say thats uber sus but last time that happened it was Coco and Coco was fine

so idk

[Myst He/Him]

23 minutes ago, Verdance said:

Uh huh

exactly why are we immediately trusting Araris on this

i would say thats uber sus but last time that happened it was Coco and Coco was fine

so idk

That’s why I asked you who you scanned

[Verdance he/him]

5 minutes ago, Myst said:

That’s why I asked you who you scanned

See i dont want to reveal that cause every time i claim a role i am lynched within three cycles

but whats confusing me is i scanned araris and he was clean

[Kit_Kat She/Her]

8 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Kit_Kat tries to vote for me at the end - @Kit_Kat care to explain why?

You seem suspicious…

[Araris Valerian he/him]

Alright, joke's gone on long enough. I'm not a Roleplayer (I don't really know the metagame roles, so I didn't even know there was an alignment scan in the metagame). I was just a bit bothered that Verdance was asking what was going on when there were only 1.5 pages of stuff to read.

Buuuut, I'm not really enthused with his reaction to my claim. I mean, what are the odds that he's in the exact scenario to mechanically deal with my fake-claim (and picked me to scan, of all people)? Furthermore, the delay on his ultimate claim response makes me suspicious its something that came from a doc. So my vote is gonna stick, at least for now.

I can also verify my role, if it becomes necessary to show that I am not a Roleplayer.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Damn. Rip Verdance, but you kind of fell for that hook, line, and sinker. The counterclaim to scanning Araris as clean is like, so just trying to lay confusion, it’s almost too perfect of an elim reaction. I say almost because I’m still fairly confident you’re elim.

[StrikerEZ he/him]

Okay, actually, just to make sure I don’t handicap us in the MetaGame: Verdance.

@The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr in case this gets merged

[coco.pudding she/they]

2 minutes ago, StrikerEZ said:

Okay, actually, just to make sure I don’t handicap us in the MetaGame: Verdance.

@The Unknown Medallion @Through the living Wahr in case this gets merged

Why?

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

4 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Why?

The vote minimum to exe a player in a Metacycle equals the amount of votes on the Player that was executed the previous pseudocycle.

 

[coco.pudding she/they]

Just now, Through the living Wahr said:

The vote minimum to exe a player in a Metacycle equals the amount of votes on the Player that was executed the previous pseudocycle.

 

Oh I forgot that’s a thing

thanks

should I also remove my vote?

[Myst He/Him]

44 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Oh I forgot that’s a thing

thanks

should I also remove my vote?

Honestly maybe, but not yet, we have plenty of time before rollover to make decisions 

[coco.pudding she/they]

14 minutes ago, Myst said:

Honestly maybe, but not yet, we have plenty of time before rollover to make decisions 

Okay yeah I’ll check on it again tomorrow

was just thinking it’s a good idea to keep the number of votes low like striker said

although with this one ig numbers probably won’t be an issue

[Myst He/Him]

Just now, coco.pudding said:

although with this one ig numbers probably won’t be an issue

Ehh, it depends on how confident the Elims are in that people won’t come on to vote.

Like, if I was M!Elim and was either confident or another Elim teammate active, I can totally see a Strat where you just come clean as M!Elim’s and make it so no one can vote out people in the meta game by making the vote requirements to high

Do I think that’s gonna happen? No, but you never know 

[coco.pudding she/they]

10 minutes ago, Myst said:

Ehh, it depends on how confident the Elims are in that people won’t come on to vote.

Like, if I was M!Elim and was either confident or another Elim teammate active, I can totally see a Strat where you just come clean as M!Elim’s and make it so no one can vote out people in the meta game by making the vote requirements to high

Do I think that’s gonna happen? No, but you never know 

That’s…really devious

And yeah ig that could be a viable strategy…until we exe all of them in the pseudogame where there isn’t a vote requirement

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

6 hours ago, Kit_Kat said:

You seem suspicious…

Care to elaborate?

Also I guess we’re going Verdance for now

I still express interest in taking out Qian and/or Coco

[Qianweilian He/him]

Okay. If no one votes otherwise, I think we should be mostly safe from vote manip unless there's a ton of seekers and rioters. If we have any copperclouds, shield someone who's voting for Verdance. We'll need 4 votes in the meta game (as far as I'm reading the rules), but I think we can mostly agree it should be Verdance.

[|TJ| he/him]

I'm on board with ME!Verdance, I do think that they failed Araris' reaction test wholly. I would prefer if we exe someone else though because I don't like the idea of exe'ing someone b2b and we need to exe them in the meta-cycle. 

Another thing, there is a Pseudo-GM in the game and they changed my role to Tineye. I am leaning towards this being evil motivation. It seems like they are going around and seemingly nerfing roles but also intending to keep communications open in case they die in both the games. 

Yet another thing, I have had a claim that Myst is a Village Coinshot. If Myst is the third Coinshot, I heavily lean towards Myst killing Xino (over Coder lying about not killing), in which case I would be very interesting in learning why Myst did not claim the kill if there was village intention in it. It would also mean that the chances of presence of meta-elim in pseudo-elim increases significantly. 

Perhaps they have a Pseudo-IM as well because they hit a presumably MV!PE!Coinshot and I was a Seeker before they nerfed my role (or they are tremendously lucky). 

I'm okay voting out Myst because we get to validate the claim and if it is correct, we would be voting out a pseudo-villager which is good if we are continuing the assumption that they bet on village victory. It would also reduce the control and kill-power they have if Myst is meta-elim. 

[Kit_Kat She/Her]

3 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Care to elaborate?

I think you know too much, but I could be wrong.

3 hours ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Also I guess we’re going Verdance for now

Seems reasonable to vote for Verdance

Edited Monday at 03:48 PM by Kit_Kat

[Araris Valerian he/him]

3 hours ago, |TJ| said:

I'm on board with ME!Verdance, I do think that they failed Araris' reaction test wholly. I would prefer if we exe someone else though because I don't like the idea of exe'ing someone b2b and we need to exe them in the meta-cycle. 

Another thing, there is a Pseudo-GM in the game and they changed my role to Tineye. I am leaning towards this being evil motivation. It seems like they are going around and seemingly nerfing roles but also intending to keep communications open in case they die in both the games. 

Yet another thing, I have had a claim that Myst is a Village Coinshot. If Myst is the third Coinshot, I heavily lean towards Myst killing Xino (over Coder lying about not killing), in which case I would be very interesting in learning why Myst did not claim the kill if there was village intention in it. It would also mean that the chances of presence of meta-elim in pseudo-elim increases significantly. 

Perhaps they have a Pseudo-IM as well because they hit a presumably MV!PE!Coinshot and I was a Seeker before they nerfed my role (or they are tremendously lucky). 

I'm okay voting out Myst because we get to validate the claim and if it is correct, we would be voting out a pseudo-villager which is good if we are continuing the assumption that they bet on village victory. It would also reduce the control and kill-power they have if Myst is meta-elim. 

The thing with Verdance has me thinking that Myst is more likely a meta-villager than not (either that or the elim doc communication has seriously broken down). Also, I'm not really sure what's wrong exeing people back to back. It certainly adds a lot more sting to the pseudo-exe if we have a pattern of following it up with a matching meta-exe.

Is Seeker that useful of a role? I'm still kinda surprised we haven't just had someone post a list of the elims yet, TBH.

Also, for the folks worried about getting too many votes this turn, I don't really think that should be a main concern, if we're all largely convinced that Verdance is a meta-elim and thus a shoe-in for the next cycle execution.

[Myst He/Him]

4 hours ago, |TJ| said:

I don't like the idea of exe'ing someone b2b and we need to exe them in the meta-cycle. 

If Ver is M!elim(which I think we all can agree he is), then there is no reason whatsoever to not exe him in the pseudo game. The less control the meta Elims have over the pseudo game the better.

4 hours ago, |TJ| said:

I'm on board with ME!Verdance, I do think that they failed Araris' reaction test wholly. I would prefer if we exe someone else though because I don't like the idea of exe'ing someone b2b and we need to exe them in the meta-cycle. 

Another thing, there is a Pseudo-GM in the game and they changed my role to Tineye. I am leaning towards this being evil motivation. It seems like they are going around and seemingly nerfing roles but also intending to keep communications open in case they die in both the games. 

Yet another thing, I have had a claim that Myst is a Village Coinshot. If Myst is the third Coinshot, I heavily lean towards Myst killing Xino (over Coder lying about not killing), in which case I would be very interesting in learning why Myst did not claim the kill if there was village intention in it. It would also mean that the chances of presence of meta-elim in pseudo-elim increases significantly. 

Perhaps they have a Pseudo-IM as well because they hit a presumably MV!PE!Coinshot and I was a Seeker before they nerfed my role (or they are tremendously lucky). 

I'm okay voting out Myst because we get to validate the claim and if it is correct, we would be voting out a pseudo-villager which is good if we are continuing the assumption that they bet on village victory. It would also reduce the control and kill-power they have if Myst is meta-elim. 

Okay, so, I know my role, and I haven’t told anyone my role the only two possible ways someone could even claim to know my role without lying is if they’re seeker(and scanned me) or are the IM.

And based on the rest of your post you really imply that the person is a seeker. Especially since you say the claim is a village(I’m assuming you mean Psuedo villager and not meta villager) coinshot rather than just a coinshot.

So first off I find it really weird that you don’t want to exe a M!elim, and you happen to have the perfect other target(a pseudo villager who has a NK who people have shown that they’re willing to vote) 

In the case that the person who claimed to you is correct, why would you exe me? If I’m meta villager I’d want to keep me in order to help swing the game if needed. If I’m meta village you should exe me but that’s not what you seem to think, and again, we have another Elim to exe right now, so unless you can prove I’m an Elim better than Ver, why would you vote me?

If the person is wrong about the claim, then you should probably vote them. Why would they lie to you after all?* I’m sure there are some reasons, but regardless in that case you shouldn’t vote me.

Again, not much I can say against the claim other than it’s only half right. Whoever is telling you this is wrong, and is not for sure Elim, but is someone you should look at.

edit: apparently this isn’t clear enough: I am not a coinshot 

Edited Monday at 04:54 PM by Myst