QF78: Hearts of Riches, Rhythms of Hatred [signups]

[___ He/Him]

2 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

thank you still no village bin for you though

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Jojala wondered why all of her fellow Singers were all talking so strangely. Maybe they were listening to Rhythms that she couldn't hear? But, since they seemed to be voting on who to get rid of, she decided to vote on Jojoja. That one had been speaking about being a Shardbearer just a couple hours ago, and it didn't seem likely than Odium would allow a regular Singer to bear shards.

ThatOneWorldhopper

Edited February 1 by A Jo in the Bush
typo

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Well thank you kindly, your endorsement is much appreciated

Would you mind providing a citation for “I made it the storms up”? Is this a book? A website? The Stormfather himself? I expect MLA format

What’s wrong with Chicago? 

10 minutes ago, DrakeMarshall said:

coco gets to go in the village bin, but mippo doesn't

source: my source is that I made it the storms up

Spren move?

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

20 minutes ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

@Hoid Slayer@TwinStormSince the Shardbearer exists, in order for village to win do we need to be exe them as well? Or just Elims? Because otherwise the Shardbearer could achieve parity by being the last one alive.

I don’t believe you do

8 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Well thank you kindly, your endorsement is much appreciated

Would you mind providing a citation for “I made it the storms up”? Is this a book? A website? The Stormfather himself? I expect MLA format

Y’all are killing me

I love this

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

7 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Well thank you kindly, your endorsement is much appreciated

Would you mind providing a citation for “I made it the storms up”? Is this a book? A website? The Stormfather himself? I expect MLA format

DrakeMarshall, "SE." The Cosmere, Tor, 31 January 2026, https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/201900-qf78-cycle-1-servants-of-a-new-storm/

[coco.pudding she/they]

Just now, The Unknown Medallion said:

DrakeMarshall, "SE." The Cosmere, Tor, 31 January 2026, https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/201900-qf78-cycle-1-servants-of-a-new-storm/

Stunning, thank you very much

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

Just now, The Unknown Medallion said:

DrakeMarshall, "SE." The Cosmere, Tor, 31 January 2026, https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/201900-qf78-cycle-1-servants-of-a-new-storm/

*inserts gif of man standing up and clapping passionately*

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

That order is completely nonsensical now that I think about it. Hmm

Updated citation:

DrakeMarshall, "QF78 - Cycle 1: Servants of a New Storm," SE, 17thshard.com, 31 January 2026 https://www.17thshard.com/forums/topic/201900-qf78-cycle-1-servants-of-a-new-storm/page/2/#findComment-2031387

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

16 minutes ago, coco.pudding said:

Well thank you kindly, your endorsement is much appreciated

Would you mind providing a citation for “I made it the storms up”? Is this a book? A website? The Stormfather himself? I expect MLA format

Spoiler

Marshall, Drake. “I Made It the Storms Up.” Received by Coco Pudding, 31 Jan. 2026.
I Made It The Storms Up.

 

[Doc12]

Nienna peeks out of her door - Listeners throwing accusations at each other in jest. The one known as O, jumping around merrily accusing people of being a Regal spy and proposing that they would all die. Narash, Dahran, and Fernri threw out random suggestions. Then Fernri tossed an idle accusation Yakat's way, on which O, Dahran, and Kiri jumped on in quick succession. And now they were pretending to be listeners in Scholarform jesting about libraries and essays. 

How could they be so... whimsical? 

She rolls her eyes, and returns to her studies. 

So far the only game-related thought I'm seeing is Archer's joke? post on achieving 0-0-0 parity, which would be very funny to happen. Eyeing the train on Drake - so far it seems it's all in fun - HG just poke voted, Archer seems to be playing chaotic, and Mippo and Coco seem to be 'why not'. Of these, I'm most inclined to be leery of Coco just because it's their first vote as opposed to Archer and Mippo who have already poke voted and are switching votes left and right. It feels a little more pointed to just jump on a train that already has 3? 

But this is interesting, I guess. Let's see how this train develops. 
In the meanwhile, I'm going to place my vote on Coco Pudding - understanding that the Drake train is mainly a joke right now but interested to see who they vote on next.

Vote count

Mippo: (0) Archer1

Penguin: (1) Mistfallen

Honors Ghost (0) Archer2

Akimiko: (0) Mippo1

Drake: (4) Honor's Ghost, Archer3, Mippo2, Coco

TOW: (1) Jo

Coco Pudding: (1) Doc

EDIT: Edit to avoid double posting - I started making PMs but I am very sleepy. If I haven't gotten to you yet I will do so tomorrow, but feel free to start PMs with me to save me some time  

Edited February 1 by Doc12

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

Coco is in the village bin though  /hj

[Archer he/him]

17 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

So far the only game-related thought I'm seeing is Archer's joke? post on achieving 0-0-0 parity, which would be very funny to happen

sure, that was a joke, but the offer to gambit with anyone rocking the -form roles is dead serious  

Relatedly, I have received a Shardbearer claim from someone. They've expressed a willingness to work with the village for now. Would anyone like to counter claim? 

CocoPudding DrakeMarshall

 

[coco.pudding she/they]

Dang bro what did I do? One moment I’m in the village bin and the next I’m getting voted all over the place?

42 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

I'm most inclined to be leery of Coco just because it's their first vote

That is fair, however I will say I kinda just hopped on that for the sake of chaos, not so much actually voting them. Especially since we don’t have much information or anything particularly useful yet. 

[IcedOutPenguin He/Him]

It appears I'm a little late for a poke, 2 pages and all. 

I'm a little busy this week, so won't be playing as hard this game as I was last game.

Regardless, as per usual: TOW

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

To actually verbalize my I Made It The Storms Up read from previously, Coco and Mippo basically both jumped on the bandwagon with little consideration.

Mippo still felt the need to provide some kind of slight justification ("I was doing it before the game") whereas Coco's vibed more as "idk, why not!" without being all that concerned about how it would look. I think a poke-voting villager would align more with the second profile.

yes it's reading way too much into tiny microscopic interactions

however, is there anything else to do right now 

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Jojala appreciated that at least one of the other singers was voting on Jojoja. She was a bit embarrassed to realize that she didn't know that Singer's name. She knew most of the Singers in Revolar, but there were three that seemed to be involved in the Regal's scheming that, to her knowledge, were nameless.

She hoped that Yakat, who had worked tirelessly for the good of the Singers in Revolar, didn't get taken so early, but she wasn't worried too much yet. Obviously her fellow Singers were simply reveling in their new found freedom to embrace Whimsy.

[coco.pudding she/they]

Kiri hummed to Contentment as much of the group laughed and joked around about those strange scholarly things. She was enjoying the moment of whimsy, a nice break from her normally rather dull life, mostly filled with either apathy or a mix of grief and terror. Yes. This was a nice change. She jumped on the bandwagon with several others, tossing out names and silly accusations without a second thought.
Although…there was always that underlying anxiety, that fear that maybe they were right, that maybe someone she knew had been…perverted by Odium, their rhythms consumed by his until the singer that had been was gone. She had seen it before, after all.

But no. Those are silly thoughts. This is a good moment. She forced herself to attune Contentment again, to pretend nothing was wrong, that the feelings she had…of this being the quiet before the stormwall hits…are just fantasies.

Is it just canon now (or whatever the version of that is for this medium) that everyone talking about citations were just the characters being goofy and joking around about scholar stuff? Because that’s what seems to be happening.

Spoiler

So um is this okay? Bc I’ve never done rp in this sort of style before, I’ve only ever done shorter stuff 

 

1 hour ago, DrakeMarshall said:

Mippo still felt the need to provide some kind of slight justification ("I was doing it before the game")

Anyways that’s lowkey a really good point. I definitely agree that’s a little odd considering everyone else on that bandwagon (not just me and mippo) seemed to be going a bit more “screw it we ball” although I might be reading into that a bit too much

Will def be changing my vote later considering that was mostly just random, not quite sure to who yet though, since I don’t feel like there’s enough actual reason to vote mippo just based off this, and nobody else has really incurred much suspicion in my mind so far.

[Through the living Wahr He/Him]

Marne peeked out from his Hut, he now wore workform the restoration of the mind and the ability to choose a Form was the only good thing that the Storm brought, in his oppinion. He didnt like the Fused and Regals, they didnt very much care about what the singers wanted they only cared about their own plans and it seemed they expected the same ohedience the humans expected  before them. He didnt like the humans either, to be fair he didnt like a lot of things, he was older then most of the singers in Revolar and just wanted to live in peace, but it didnt seem like that was possible. Probably one of the loud Shootingstar singers out on the street worked with the regals, he decided to vote Coco for the time being, maybe he would change his vote later.

Edited February 1 by Wahrheitswächter

[Myst He/Him]

Analysis time:(if anyone has problems with the shortened names tell me)

Wahr: poke vote on coco, however, coco has already had a few votes, and so unless Wahr didnt know that, this seems odd for a poke vote. E!lean

Jo: seems to communicate via Rp, which isn’t bad, it’s just easy to hide things. Based on stuff from PMs, I’m getting the impression of V!lean, but because of the Rp I really don’t want to. I’ll still go with V for now.

TJ: hasn’t posted yet(as of time of writing this particular part) so waiting on that. 

Akimiko: one post so far, basically saying they didn’t know how to defend themself. Which seems odd, but I’m not sure what I make of it yet. Neutral lean.

Honors Ghost: said she was waiting for more info before deciding anything, but then didn’t give any. Later said she was like voting Drake, which defeats the purpose, but still is weird based on that a train later formed on him.

 Mippo: decides to vote Drake for fun it seems, and seems to just be reacting so far. Slight E!lean

Stick: hasn’t posted yet, still waiting

Worldhopper: hasn’t posted, still waiting 

Penguin: anounces a poke vote on Unknown I think, which defeats the purpose, but I’ll need to make more before making a judgement.

Doc: has some analysis, was joking in PMs, and seems very proactive, but that’s how he played Elim in my first game, so slight V!lean

Unknown: jumped in to cite Drake, and then update his citation. There’s not much to go on here. 

Coco: so hopped on the Drake train, and then was surprised why people were voting her for it. And then said that they were going to change vote later. Could be an elim slip up and recover. Slight E!lean(I think I got your pronouns right, tell me if not though, I wasn’t sure about the “her” or if I should’ve used “they”)

Qian: hasn’t posted yet.

Archer: offers to vote match Honor, then asks Mippo to join the Drake train with him (After Honor voted him) this gives me Spren vibes for Honor. 

Drake: made some Rp, later said Mippo wasn’t village, but Coco was, with only later giving reasoning. Was very accommodating in PMs, so V!lean for now.

Do have a number of Elims for this? I know general amount is about a quarter of the people as Elims, so 4, but the Shardbearer would probably(?) take up a slot, so 3 Elims? It would depend on the Distro for the exact number, but for now 3 Elims, 1 Shardbearer, and at least 1 Spren makes sense.

[|TJ| he/him]

I'm in the middle of moving houses, so my activity is going to be low for the first couple of cycles. 

9 hours ago, Archer said:

It may look like the Shardbear neutral is going to be elim-aligned in the early stages of the game, but I would argue there’s a perfectly achievable scenario where all remaining players die at the same time, resulting in a joint village/neutral win. All elims would be dead and 0-0-0 is technically parity. 
 

I want to argue that the Shardbearer is a straight-up SK, they are not neutral-aligned at all. They win when they reach parity with both village and elim, and the only way for us to win with the Shardbearer is if it is 1-1-0, which means it needs to be 2-2-1 or 3-1-1 in the penultimate cycle, and if we mis-exe in this cycle, it banks on the Shardbearer hitting the remaining elim instead of the villager for us to win, which is not really a position I want us to be in. Also, reaching that particular state inherently means Shardbearer needs to kill a lot of villagers because of our initial numbers. 

[We also need to ask the GMs if they would allow joint victories. If we kill the last elim and the Shardbearer reaches parity with the village in the same cycle, would it be a joint victory? Same the other way, if the elims outnumber the village and Shardbearer gets parity with them, are they joint winners? Executions are not in the Order of Actions, do they happen at the same time as kills? @Hoid Slayer @TwinStorm]

More importantly, there is also the danger of conversion, so we need to be wary and be on the lookout for changing behaviour in our village reads and ascertain where that change is coming from. 

Speaking of conversions - 

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Regals: Standard eliminator faction, you are trying to bring Odium’s power to the stubborn Singers who resist. Each cycle, you may choose to either kill another player or convert a player into the Regal faction, which happens X times per game (number determined via player count). A converted player permanently joins the Regal faction and has a 33% chance to lose their role, if any, and gain a Regal role. You have a factional doc to communicate in. You win when you outnumber the living Singers.

@Hoid Slayer @TwinStorm, do we get to know the value of X now? How many conversions do the Regals have? 

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

2 hours ago, |TJ| said:

[We also need to ask the GMs if they would allow joint victories. If we kill the last elim and the Shardbearer reaches parity with the village in the same cycle, would it be a joint victory? Same the other way, if the elims outnumber the village and Shardbearer gets parity with them, are they joint winners? Executions are not in the Order of Actions, do they happen at the same time as kills? @Hoid Slayer @TwinStorm]

@TwinStorm I'm happy with joint victories

2 hours ago, |TJ| said:

@Hoid Slayer @TwinStorm, do we get to know the value of X now? How many conversions do the Regals have? 

The general audience does not

The information has been communicated to the Regals

Apologies if there was any confusion in the way the rules were phrased

VC, roughly halfway through the cycle:

Penguin (1): Mistfallen Soldier

Drake (3): Honor’s Ghost, mippo, coco

ThatOneWorldhopper (2): Jo, Penguin

Coco (3): Doc, Archer, Wahr

[Archer he/him]

7 hours ago, Wahrheitswächter said:

he decided to vote Coco for the time being, maybe he would change his vote later.

6 hours ago, Mistfallen Soldier said:

Analysis time:(if anyone has problems with the shortened names tell me)

pfft, if I have to use an umlaut, you do too

Cocopudding Wahrheitswächter

I've decided Coco is village based on a PM interaction, so everybody change your votes

2 hours ago, |TJ| said:

@Hoid Slayer @TwinStorm, do we get to know the value of X now? How many conversions do the Regals have? 

I'd be shocked if it's more than one. A conversion is worth close to double in my book. If we treat the Shardbear as a weak evil teammate and the convert as a strong evil teammate, they average out to two elims. If they start with two, that's 4/16, which is ideal ratio. 

15 minutes ago, Hoid Slayer said:

@TwinStorm I'm happy with joint victories

Does 0-0-0 count as a joint victory?

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

18 minutes ago, Archer said:

pfft, if I have to use an umlaut, you do too

Cocopudding Wahrheitswächter

I've decided Coco is village based on a PM interaction, so everybody change your votes

I'd be shocked if it's more than one. A conversion is worth close to double in my book. If we treat the Shardbear as a weak evil teammate and the convert as a strong evil teammate, they average out to two elims. If they start with two, that's 4/16, which is ideal ratio. 

Does 0-0-0 count as a joint victory?

Alright I’m going to make a tentative call on an unlikely situation

That would be an elim and Shardbearer win; both reach their wincons

Village loses

[Archer he/him]

1 minute ago, Hoid Slayer said:

Alright I’m going to make a tentative call on an unlikely situation

That would be an elim and Shardbearer win; both reach their wincons

Village loses

Other way around, right? Villagers win when elims are all dead (check), SB wins at parity (check), and elims win when they outnumber the village (not check).

Does the Shardbear stay in the game when they win? 1-1-1 > SB the elim, > NK the SB = village win (or SB the elim = village win), versus 1-1-1 to 1-0-1 is certainly followed by an elim win of 0-0-1 or 0-0-0 due to the NK.  

[Hoid Slayer He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Archer said:

Other way around, right? Villagers win when elims are all dead (check), SB wins at parity (check), and elims win when they outnumber the village (not check).

Does the Shardbear stay in the game when they win? 1-1-1 > SB the elim, > NK the SB = village win (or SB the elim = village win), versus 1-1-1 to 1-0-1 is certainly followed by an elim win of 0-0-1 or 0-0-0 due to the NK.  

…

lemme check those rules rq

For the Shardbearer thing for fun I’mma say yes but no matter what happens they win

Okay so I went and read the rules

Technically yes, that is a village win, and ykw? I’m willing to write a poetic group sacrifice where the only way to avoid Conversion is death and no one survives

As for elims, okay, technically that is the wincon but it is kinda weird @TwinStorm should we change it to reaching parity with everyone else? Like elims have to account for half living players at the start of a cycle to win