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[Stick. she/her]

6 minutes ago, Divergent said:

I'm not currently smoking anyone so we can coordinate on that today to ensure votes are all at a value of 1 

Smoke TUO cuz if they’re telling the truth they aren’t able to self smoke 

 

@Ookla the Broken @Honors Ghost if u can smoke this turn one of u can take alv, the other should smoke me in case ksauce is elim 

 

lmk if there’s a better way to coordinate this for extra security….idk how we’re supposed to address the fact that elims can just lie about their targets 

edit:

 

Ive asked Drake if I can put in a new target for smoke extension today since my original one died and that’s kinda messed up. He’ll probs say no but let’s see 

2 minutes ago, Stick. said:

 if u can smoke this turn one of u can take alv, the other should smoke me in case ksauce is elim 

wait this is not needed im still self smoking even tho mippo is dead 

the other should smoke TUO as well then ig if we’re somehow in an e divergent world 

edit 2:

Ksauce, you can change ur target from me to either IHAT or Honor if their copper clouds are off. I think IHAT said theirs has been on so maybe tentatively put it on Honor until they come online and clarify  @Ookla the Wallfacer 

 

on the off chance that honor does not show up, we should get someone else to smoke them too 

edit 3:

 

so now we have the following smoked:

wallfacer —> extends to Honor

divergent —> extends to TUO

IHAT (unsure if they can extend this turn, but if assuming they can) —> extends to Alv 

Honor (has not confirmed anything yet but if assuming they can act this turn) —> extends to either TUO or Alv 

stick  —> if Drake lets me I’ll target Honor as well 

 

Does that look ok… I have a headache now lol someone help. i think there’s probably a more optimal way to choose these targets I’ve mostly put them at random 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

5 hours ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

I'm actually inclined to believe that they have no Smokers, else why would they donate 'em to us if they could just cover themselves? Of course, it could just be to throw us off, but it feels like a waste. Of course, if they have Smokers, if means the v!Soother plan doesn't work.

We have a chance even if there are 4 elims, if there's a village Soother and the elims don't have Smokers, as well as if we have a Mistborn with pewter or something, who could draw steel in the future. I am unsure if a Thug alone is enough to mean we have a chance...

It was the Soother D2. Or a Mistborn, I guess. 

Edit:

@Ookla the Broken, @Divergent, @Honors Ghost, @Stick., turn on your copper! It's the only way the v!Soother plan can work

I really feel like a Wallfacer now

My coppers been on since day one

4 hours ago, Divergent said:

Who did y'all extend your smoking powers to so far? 

I’ve done Stick on d1 bc I wasn’t sure what to do then I did counter on d2 not sure why I can’t remeber lol then doc d3 bc I thought he was voting with me then Mippo d4 bc he was voting with me

[Myst He/Him]

6 hours ago, Divergent said:

So were you banking on the possibility then that Doc was actually an elim? because if it actually were LyLo, the game would have end right there and then

Yeah, pretty much, as I said, I wasn’t thinking, so it wasn’t really the smartest move

5 hours ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

@Divergent? Who did you smoke? @Ookla the Broken?

@Alvron, what is your role?

Edit:

I'm going to go read now bye.

I didn’t smoke until N3, after the seeker died, but I did myself and unknown that day, myself and Divergent Day 4, and I haven’t extended mine today yet, though I do have it on 

4 hours ago, Stick. said:

Smoke TUO cuz if they’re telling the truth they aren’t able to self smoke 

 

@Ookla the Broken @Honors Ghost if u can smoke this turn one of u can take alv, the other should smoke me in case ksauce is elim 

 

lmk if there’s a better way to coordinate this for extra security….idk how we’re supposed to address the fact that elims can just lie about their targets 

edit:

 

Ive asked Drake if I can put in a new target for smoke extension today since my original one died and that’s kinda messed up. He’ll probs say no but let’s see 

wait this is not needed im still self smoking even tho mippo is dead 

the other should smoke TUO as well then ig if we’re somehow in an e divergent world 

edit 2:

Ksauce, you can change ur target from me to either IHAT or Honor if their copper clouds are off. I think IHAT said theirs has been on so maybe tentatively put it on Honor until they come online and clarify  @Ookla the Wallfacer 

 

on the off chance that honor does not show up, we should get someone else to smoke them too 

edit 3:

 

so now we have the following smoked:

wallfacer —> extends to Honor

divergent —> extends to TUO

IHAT (unsure if they can extend this turn, but if assuming they can) —> extends to Alv 

Honor (has not confirmed anything yet but if assuming they can act this turn) —> extends to either TUO or Alv 

stick  —> if Drake lets me I’ll target Honor as well 

 

Does that look ok… I have a headache now lol someone help. i think there’s probably a more optimal way to choose these targets I’ve mostly put them at random 

I’ll smoke Alv, so I’ll go message DrakeMarshal that

[DrakeMarshall he/him]

9 hours ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

@DrakeMarshall are you allowed to say if there are any possible world where there are four elims?

I feel I probably shouldn't, sorry. I can give my reasons for that after the game if you want.

[Alvron]

9 hours ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

@Alvron, what is your role?

You're not going to believe this but ... Smoker.

[Myst He/Him]

6 minutes ago, Alvron said:

You're not going to believe this but ... Smoker.

Considering everyone’s claimed smoker, except for TUO, you’re probably right 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

We need to consolidate, and I don't really have any reason to believe Alv isn't an elim, so

Alvron

[Myst He/Him]

Vote count:

Honor(1): Broken(I’ll change my vote later)

Alvron(3): Stick, Unkown, Ksauce

Its possible I missed a vote for Alvron, but I don’t recall Dive voting, so this should be accurate 

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

Um sure ig ill hop on the alvron train idek what to do i still cant believe docs not Elim i was like hinging on him being Elim and then his death leading us to the others 

[Divergent He/Him]

42 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

Vote count:

Honor(1): Broken(I’ll change my vote later)

Alvron(3): Stick, Unkown, Ksauce

Its possible I missed a vote for Alvron, but I don’t recall Dive voting, so this should be accurate 

Before I fell asleep, I was thinking of an elim team of Stick, TUO, and Honor/Alvron, so I'll probably vote somewhere there. There's some things I need to check in the previous days to make a case on this

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

10 hours ago, Divergent said:

I'm not currently smoking anyone so we can coordinate on that today to ensure votes are all at a value of 1 

10 hours ago, Stick. said:

Smoke TUO cuz if they’re telling the truth they aren’t able to self smoke 

 

@Ookla the Broken @Honors Ghost if u can smoke this turn one of u can take alv, the other should smoke me in case ksauce is elim 

 

lmk if there’s a better way to coordinate this for extra security….idk how we’re supposed to address the fact that elims can just lie about their targets 

edit:

 

Ive asked Drake if I can put in a new target for smoke extension today since my original one died and that’s kinda messed up. He’ll probs say no but let’s see 

wait this is not needed im still self smoking even tho mippo is dead 

the other should smoke TUO as well then ig if we’re somehow in an e divergent world 

edit 2:

Ksauce, you can change ur target from me to either IHAT or Honor if their copper clouds are off. I think IHAT said theirs has been on so maybe tentatively put it on Honor until they come online and clarify  @Ookla the Wallfacer 

 

on the off chance that honor does not show up, we should get someone else to smoke them too 

edit 3:

 

so now we have the following smoked:

wallfacer —> extends to Honor

divergent —> extends to TUO

IHAT (unsure if they can extend this turn, but if assuming they can) —> extends to Alv 

Honor (has not confirmed anything yet but if assuming they can act this turn) —> extends to either TUO or Alv 

stick  —> if Drake lets me I’ll target Honor as well 

 

Does that look ok… I have a headache now lol someone help. i think there’s probably a more optimal way to choose these targets I’ve mostly put them at random 

The thing is...

If there are 4 elims and they all vote someone, we can't Smoke them, otherwise it blocks our hypothetical v!soother

But yeah for now I'll Smoke Honor.

3 hours ago, DrakeMarshall said:

I feel I probably shouldn't, sorry. I can give my reasons for that after the game if you want.

Alright.

2 hours ago, Alvron said:

You're not going to believe this but ... Smoker.

Interesting.

So at least one person is lying. There has to be a Soother or a really lucky Mistborn somewhere.

[Divergent He/Him]

@Ookla the Wallfacer can I ask how the Rioter works? So they would nullify their own vote, but does the changed vote not reflect in the vote count? 

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 minute ago, Divergent said:

@Ookla the Wallfacer can I ask how the Rioter works? So they would nullify their own vote, but does the changed vote not reflect in the vote count? 

The vote count names do not reflect vote manip, but numbers do.

The Rioter's in thread vote is canceled, then they move another player's vote.

[Divergent He/Him]

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Ookla said:

The vote count names do not reflect vote manip, but numbers do.

The Rioter's in thread vote is canceled, then they move another player's vote.

Does the moved player's vote get reflected as 0 in the tally?

[Myst He/Him]

28 minutes ago, Divergent said:

Does the moved player's vote get reflected as 0 in the tally?

Yeah, so the overall vote with the rioter will be one less. 

[Divergent He/Him]

I feel like I've been trying to get this post up several times and not being able to because the editor didn't save the draft lol. Anyway, hopefully this attempt goes through

Spoiler

Vote Tally:

Araris (5): Jo, TJ, Slayer, Stick
Stick (3): Araris, TUO, Alvron, Fura
Fura (1): Mippo
Mippo (1): Honor
IHAT (1): Doc
KSauce (0): IHAT
TJ (1): TwinStorm

D1 vote tally confirms the existence of an e!Mistborn. Slayer, the Rioter, likely did not use their Rioter ability. Even if they did use it to move votes, that would mean their vote is nullified and the number of votes on Araris would still be at 4. So it's only an e!Mistborn who got the Rioter ability that can have changed that vote.

There are 4 candidates for this e!Mistborn: TUO, Alvron, IHAT, and Ksauce (who unvoted Honor earlier that day)

So, I tried to run possible distributions with an e!Mistborn in mind

Spoiler

Thug (2 to remove)

Smoker (3 to steal)

Smoker (3 to steal)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

Spoiler

Thug (2 to remove)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (8 to steal)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

Spoiler

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

Thug (2 to remove)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

Spoiler

Mistborn (7 to remove)

Lurcher (6 to steal)

Thug (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

I didn't super get close to what the elims had in mind for the distribution, but what all these combinations show is that I find it hard to believe that the Thug claim is real or if it is, that it belongs to a Villager. In most of these combinations, it's very easy to allocate points to either remove or steal the Thug, and I don't see why they wouldn't do that. I am thinking that out of all these, the last is the most likely because the Mistborn would give them flexibility while the Lurcher and Thug not only keeps them safe from the Coinshot, but it also ensures that their kills would also go through
 

In addition, the elims have been killing non-Smokers on most nights. We've seen them kill people who either were unwilling to claim (Hoid), denied being a Smoker (Exp), or didn't claim (Worldhopper). If they left the Thug role alone, then they would always be at risk of their kill failing and so, it makes much less sense to me that they would not target within the claimed Smoker pool. 
 

I am a bit iffy on the current Alvron wagon. There's 4 votes on it atm, which means at least 1 elim must be there because I didn't vote on that. So I would like to vote TUO again for today 

 

As for who I think his teammates are, I think Stick is still up there. I see the possibility that it was an actual attempt to save Stick from being executed and that it wasn't just to cause chaos. I feel that IHAT is village because him being the Mistborn doesn't make the most sense since he is directly exposed on the vote tally as having no vote.
 

I'm a bit uncertain on the final one, but I could see the angle of it being either Honor or Alvron. Honor had that exchange of accusing someone as a Mistborn (I think?). As for Alvron, it's possible that the elims are playing the long con by bussing their teammate and gaining the credit for this, so that they can win the next day

[KaladinsSenseOfHumourSpren He/Him]

3 minutes ago, Divergent said:

I feel like I've been trying to get this post up several times and not being able to because the editor didn't save the draft lol. Anyway, hopefully this attempt goes through

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Vote Tally:

Araris (5): Jo, TJ, Slayer, Stick
Stick (3): Araris, TUO, Alvron, Fura
Fura (1): Mippo
Mippo (1): Honor
IHAT (1): Doc
KSauce (0): IHAT
TJ (1): TwinStorm

D1 vote tally confirms the existence of an e!Mistborn. Slayer, the Rioter, likely did not use their Rioter ability. Even if they did use it to move votes, that would mean their vote is nullified and the number of votes on Araris would still be at 4. So it's only an e!Mistborn who got the Rioter ability that can have changed that vote.

There are 4 candidates for this e!Mistborn: TUO, Alvron, IHAT, and Ksauce (who unvoted Honor earlier that day)

So, I tried to run possible distributions with an e!Mistborn in mind

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Thug (2 to remove)

Smoker (3 to steal)

Smoker (3 to steal)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

  Hide contents

Thug (2 to remove)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (8 to steal)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

  Hide contents

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

Thug (2 to remove)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

  Hide contents

Mistborn (7 to remove)

Lurcher (6 to steal)

Thug (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

I didn't super get close to what the elims had in mind for the distribution, but what all these combinations show is that I find it hard to believe that the Thug claim is real or if it is, that it belongs to a Villager. In most of these combinations, it's very easy to allocate points to either remove or steal the Thug, and I don't see why they wouldn't do that. I am thinking that out of all these, the last is the most likely because the Mistborn would give them flexibility while the Lurcher and Thug not only keeps them safe from the Coinshot, but it also ensures that their kills would also go through
 

In addition, the elims have been killing non-Smokers on most nights. We've seen them kill people who either were unwilling to claim (Hoid), denied being a Smoker (Exp), or didn't claim (Worldhopper). If they left the Thug role alone, then they would always be at risk of their kill failing and so, it makes much less sense to me that they would not target within the claimed Smoker pool. 
 

I am a bit iffy on the current Alvron wagon. There's 4 votes on it atm, which means at least 1 elim must be there because I didn't vote on that. So I would like to vote TUO again for today 

 

As for who I think his teammates are, I think Stick is still up there. I see the possibility that it was an actual attempt to save Stick from being executed and that it wasn't just to cause chaos. I feel that IHAT is village because him being the Mistborn doesn't make the most sense since he is directly exposed on the vote tally as having no vote.
 

I'm a bit uncertain on the final one, but I could see the angle of it being either Honor or Alvron. Honor had that exchange of accusing someone as a Mistborn (I think?). As for Alvron, it's possible that the elims are playing the long con by bussing their teammate and gaining the credit for this, so that they can win the next day

Alright.

TUO

Unfortunately, I've had some stuff come up, and I probably won't post again until after rollover.

I'm Smoking Honor.

[Alvron]

See @Doc12 4 votes on me already.  Told you it was easy.  Edit: Make that 3.  Silly Ksauce messing up my fun stats.

Interesting fact about me being lynched: In the 10 times I have been lynched as village, 8 of them came with an elim being the very first to vote for me.  1 of the remaining 2 the elims were the second one to vote on me.  I am most interested to see how Stick and Ksauce flip after the game.  

[Honors Spectral Image She/her]

TUO I’ll smoke Divergent

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

2 hours ago, Divergent said:

I feel like I've been trying to get this post up several times and not being able to because the editor didn't save the draft lol. Anyway, hopefully this attempt goes through

  Hide contents

Vote Tally:

Araris (5): Jo, TJ, Slayer, Stick
Stick (3): Araris, TUO, Alvron, Fura
Fura (1): Mippo
Mippo (1): Honor
IHAT (1): Doc
KSauce (0): IHAT
TJ (1): TwinStorm

D1 vote tally confirms the existence of an e!Mistborn. Slayer, the Rioter, likely did not use their Rioter ability. Even if they did use it to move votes, that would mean their vote is nullified and the number of votes on Araris would still be at 4. So it's only an e!Mistborn who got the Rioter ability that can have changed that vote.

There are 4 candidates for this e!Mistborn: TUO, Alvron, IHAT, and Ksauce (who unvoted Honor earlier that day)

So, I tried to run possible distributions with an e!Mistborn in mind

  Hide contents

Thug (2 to remove)

Smoker (3 to steal)

Smoker (3 to steal)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

  Hide contents

Thug (2 to remove)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (8 to steal)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

  Hide contents

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Mistborn (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

Thug (2 to remove)

Lurcher (4 to remove)

  Hide contents

Mistborn (7 to remove)

Lurcher (6 to steal)

Thug (7 to steal)

Soother (1 to remove)

I didn't super get close to what the elims had in mind for the distribution, but what all these combinations show is that I find it hard to believe that the Thug claim is real or if it is, that it belongs to a Villager. In most of these combinations, it's very easy to allocate points to either remove or steal the Thug, and I don't see why they wouldn't do that. I am thinking that out of all these, the last is the most likely because the Mistborn would give them flexibility while the Lurcher and Thug not only keeps them safe from the Coinshot, but it also ensures that their kills would also go through
 

In addition, the elims have been killing non-Smokers on most nights. We've seen them kill people who either were unwilling to claim (Hoid), denied being a Smoker (Exp), or didn't claim (Worldhopper). If they left the Thug role alone, then they would always be at risk of their kill failing and so, it makes much less sense to me that they would not target within the claimed Smoker pool. 
 

I am a bit iffy on the current Alvron wagon. There's 4 votes on it atm, which means at least 1 elim must be there because I didn't vote on that. So I would like to vote TUO again for today 

 

As for who I think his teammates are, I think Stick is still up there. I see the possibility that it was an actual attempt to save Stick from being executed and that it wasn't just to cause chaos. I feel that IHAT is village because him being the Mistborn doesn't make the most sense since he is directly exposed on the vote tally as having no vote.
 

I'm a bit uncertain on the final one, but I could see the angle of it being either Honor or Alvron. Honor had that exchange of accusing someone as a Mistborn (I think?). As for Alvron, it's possible that the elims are playing the long con by bussing their teammate and gaining the credit for this, so that they can win the next day

You mean when I voted Stick tying her for the exe and could have saved her by unvoting?

2 hours ago, Alvron said:

See @Doc12 4 votes on me already.  Told you it was easy.  Edit: Make that 3.  Silly Ksauce messing up my fun stats.

Interesting fact about me being lynched: In the 10 times I have been lynched as village, 8 of them came with an elim being the very first to vote for me.  1 of the remaining 2 the elims were the second one to vote on me.  I am most interested to see how Stick and Ksauce flip after the game.  

I've noticed this occurrence with me too. When you're always a little bit sus, elims tend to turn to you before villagers do. 

[Myst He/Him]

Okay, I’m agreeing with Dive on this, Unknown but Im worried that Honor is voting him as well

[Divergent He/Him]

31 minutes ago, The Unknown Ookla said:

You mean when I voted Stick tying her for the exe and could have saved her by unvoting?

Valid point, I think that's something to take into account that might be a point towards Stick being actually village

Then again it could still apply. With the elim team having Mistborn, they know that they have the Rioter power and Soother power on the starts of both D1 and D2, so that is something they could take into account with their strategy for that day and ensuring even if they're voting for their partner, it would never be enough for them to go over

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

So, you guys are committed to no flip today? Cause I'll tell you where we're at. 

It's 4/3. If we exe a villager, we lose. If we exe an elim, we need to keep exing an elim every cycle or we lose. If we hit me, we have a fifty/fifty tomorrow, if we even find the right target.

The elims also almost certainly have a Mistborn. And if they roll CS, thug, or VM (and we miss a smoke) they win. If you exe me, you're giving them an extra cycle to roll one of those. Are you so much more sus of me than you are someone else that you'll hang the game on it?

@Ookla the Wallfacer @Ookla the Broken @Divergent @Alvron @Stick. @Honors Ghost

[Divergent He/Him]

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Ookla said:

So, you guys are committed to no flip today? Cause I'll tell you where we're at. 

It's 4/3. If we exe a villager, we lose. If we exe an elim, we need to keep exing an elim every cycle or we lose. If we hit me, we have a fifty/fifty tomorrow, if we even find the right target.

The elims also almost certainly have a Mistborn. And if they roll CS, thug, or VM (and we miss a smoke) they win. If you exe me, you're giving them an extra cycle to roll one of those. Are you so much more sus of me than you are someone else that you'll hang the game on it?

@Ookla the Wallfacer @Ookla the Broken @Divergent @Alvron @Stick. @Honors Ghost

Something I'd like to ask, why did you claim only just right before rollover? And not early in the day. To me, that looked very much like an opportunistic claim designed to give people very little time to think and just allowed that change in votes to lead to an exe on a Villager

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

6 minutes ago, Divergent said:

Something I'd like to ask, why did you claim only just right before rollover? And not early in the day. To me, that looked very much like an opportunistic claim designed to give people very little time to think and just allowed that change in votes to lead to an exe on a Villager

The train on me was late in the day, and I have wrestling practice before rollover most days, so I only get on right before on those days.