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2 minutes ago, Divergent said:

Another angle I wanted to consider was that a person who has more experience with Tyrian roles would be the one who would have initiated the idea to give Smokers to everyone and at least one other person with a similar level of experience would agree with that. I'm aware Jo posted an idea that opened that possibility on the sign-ups thread, but I'm thinking only more ballsy experienced players would actually do that, and that's another thing that makes me think Doc and TUO are on this team 

What are your thoughts on TwinStorm and what he did or said in the past three days before I subbed in?

Would you not describe the vote on Jo as sudden?

I have not seen much from Wanderer, all I have to go on is from you. And what I’ve seen makes me suspicious.

As for sudden, I wouldn’t because the conversations between me and doc were basically,

“hey, wanna push Honor to see what happens? I feel weird about the whole mistborn thing and want to see if someone comes and defends her” -Doc

”yeah, I also think the Mistborn thing is weird” -me

and then later, about two hours before rollover, 

“it doesn’t seem like anyone defended Honor or anything, would you be fine switching to Stick or Jo?” -doc

”yeah, pushing that hasn’t gone anywhere. Out of those two, I trust Jo less” -me

at which point doc changed his vote and I followed. The vote on honor was useless, we weren’t trying to get her out, and so we had to switch to someone. I do realize that switching that late may seem sudden, but if we switched earlier, voting Honor wouldn’t have done anything 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Divergent said:

What are your thoughts on TwinStorm and what he did or said in the past three days before I subbed in?

Would you not describe the vote on Jo as sudden?

@Doc12 what are your thoughts on IHAT now? Do you still read them as elim or has that changed?

My thoughts on Twinstorm is that he was absent, which he explained. From memory, he was active during the three-way tie in cycle 2, where he expressed suspicion of one player, but then voted based on vibes on another player to create a tie? So really I don't have much to go on for Twin/your alignment. 

The vote on Jo was very sudden, I agree. It was me wanting to poke Jo for a reaction. I was curious if IHAT would join me, and I was surprised that Honor's Ghost was so willing to join too. 

I think my bias this game has been to give a lot of credit to people who are actually doing a lot of work. I'm giving Stick a lot of leeway because her ISO posts are genuinely nice. I respect that IHAT has been so active and actually discussing things. I respect Dive coming in and also doing analysis/asking questions. I was very willing to vote on Jo/TUO because they were voting on vibes/just to tie. Yeah, Alv does that too, but honestly I don't think I could get a majority on Alv because this what they do. 

To answer your question about IHAT, I tunneled hard on them, and then backed off hard because I realized I was tunneling. I do not trust my judgement on them. Right now, they are working with me, and defending me, and pinging people to vote in unity, and that's something I can respect, no matter what alignment they are. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Ookla the Broken said:

I have not seen much from Wanderer, all I have to go on is from you. And what I’ve seen makes me suspicious.

As for sudden, I wouldn’t because the conversations between me and doc were basically,

“hey, wanna push Honor to see what happens? I feel weird about the whole mistborn thing and want to see if someone comes and defends her” -Doc

”yeah, I also think the Mistborn thing is weird” -me

and then later, about two hours before rollover, 

“it doesn’t seem like anyone defended Honor or anything, would you be fine switching to Stick or Jo?” -doc

”yeah, pushing that hasn’t gone anywhere. Out of those two, I trust Jo less” -me

at which point doc changed his vote and I followed. The vote on honor was useless, we weren’t trying to get her out, and so we had to switch to someone. I do realize that switching that late may seem sudden, but if we switched earlier, voting Honor wouldn’t have done anything 

I think you mentioned earlier that part of the suspicion on myself is a hypothetical team coaching me on what to do. In this world, who do you think would be doing that? 
 

I'd like to ask more, why were the only options Stick or Jo?

Posted
2 minutes ago, Divergent said:

I think you mentioned earlier that part of the suspicion on myself is a hypothetical team coaching me on what to do. In this world, who do you think would be doing that? 
 

I'd like to ask more, why were the only options Stick or Jo?

For Jo and Stick, my understanding was that Doc thought(and still does think) that I’m Elim, and thought those two might be my teammates and was trying to see if I’d vote them. Since he brought those two up, I’ll let him explain that since I’m not completely sure.

As for who would be coaching you, I’m not sure. As it stands, the Elims just need one villager to vote another villager. And the other Elims just have to vote that person as well. I see no way to tell who from that, as it’s literally just math. 

however, it is possible you are the person being convinced to vote a villager, and not an Elim yourself. But I don’t think this is the case, as I believe Mippo or Honor is that person.

Posted
27 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Yeah, Alv does that too, but honestly I don't think I could get a majority on Alv because this what they do. . 

Actually it's very easy to get a vote majority on me. Or at least it has been in the past.
I am lurking, I am not really contributing and am very much not helping village openly so just listing those and several players will vote for me.
I'm actually very sad that IHAT is the only one to have voted on me all game.  I should've had at least three votes by Day 4 even if they were just poke votes. :( 

Posted
14 minutes ago, Alvron said:

Actually it's very easy to get a vote majority on me. Or at least it has been in the past.
I am lurking, I am not really contributing and am very much not helping village openly so just listing those and several players will vote for me.
I'm actually very sad that IHAT is the only one to have voted on me all game.  I should've had at least three votes by Day 4 even if they were just poke votes. :( 

42 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Yeah, Alv does that too, but honestly I don't think I could get a majority on Alv because this what they do. 

I would definitely rather vote Alv than Doc, if the opportunity presented itself.

Posted
40 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

My thoughts on Twinstorm is that he was absent, which he explained. From memory, he was active during the three-way tie in cycle 2, where he expressed suspicion of one player, but then voted based on vibes on another player to create a tie? So really I don't have much to go on for Twin/your alignment. 

The vote on Jo was very sudden, I agree. It was me wanting to poke Jo for a reaction. I was curious if IHAT would join me, and I was surprised that Honor's Ghost was so willing to join too. 

I think my bias this game has been to give a lot of credit to people who are actually doing a lot of work. I'm giving Stick a lot of leeway because her ISO posts are genuinely nice. I respect that IHAT has been so active and actually discussing things. I respect Dive coming in and also doing analysis/asking questions. I was very willing to vote on Jo/TUO because they were voting on vibes/just to tie. Yeah, Alv does that too, but honestly I don't think I could get a majority on Alv because this what they do. 

To answer your question about IHAT, I tunneled hard on them, and then backed off hard because I realized I was tunneling. I do not trust my judgement on them. Right now, they are working with me, and defending me, and pinging people to vote in unity, and that's something I can respect, no matter what alignment they are. 

With Jo flipping as village, how does that affect your thoughts on TUO? He's one of my other suspicions and I think he'd be the type of player to also encourage giving everyone smokers

 

Also, I'm finding it a bit hard to believe that the reasoning that it was to poke a reaction when these votes only started coming in the final hour of that day (unless you meant a reaction in PMs with the ones you talked about voting with?)

Posted
Just now, Divergent said:

With Jo flipping as village, how does that affect your thoughts on TUO? He's one of my other suspicions and I think he'd be the type of player to also encourage giving everyone smokers

 

Also, I'm finding it a bit hard to believe that the reasoning that it was to poke a reaction when these votes only started coming in the final hour of that day (unless you meant a reaction in PMs with the ones you talked about voting with?)

I would just as easily vote TUO. I could also see them pushing for the smoker idea. 

And the reasoning was 1) to see if IHAT and Honor's Ghost would join me in my voting and 2) I already said I was willing to flip Jo anyways so when they did I thought 'might as well commit'

Posted
1 hour ago, Divergent said:

That's fair and I think I also find it easier to analyze if there's both a dead elim and dead village. That said, I'd like to ask, is there anyone in this group of alive people that you would never vote (because you think they're village or some other reason)?

Nope.  As there are no confirmed villagers, everyone is votable imo.

4 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

I would definitely rather vote Alv than Doc, if the opportunity presented itself.

See Doc, easy to get a vote train rolling on me.

Posted
1 minute ago, Honors Ghost said:

This is entirely not game related but I just wanna say thank you guys for making this first game of mine so nerve racking and fun

Careful, it's addictive.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Honors Ghost said:

Hahahah I think I’m too far gone

*temporarily revives*

*grabs*

BUAHAHA you’re never escaping our cult now!!!

*goes back to being dead*

Posted

Alright.

The VC is still:

Doc (4): Divergent, Honor, Mippo, KSauce

KSauce (3): Doc, Stick, IHAT

14 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

I would just as easily vote TUO. I could also see them pushing for the smoker idea. 

And the reasoning was 1) to see if IHAT and Honor's Ghost would join me in my voting and 2) I already said I was willing to flip Jo anyways so when they did I thought 'might as well commit'

We have enough people online to get TUO exed.

Posted

Alright. I've been chatting furiously with Dive and IHAT. I am functionally placing my full trust in IHAT because right now he's the only person voting with me when he could very justifiably turn on me. And the more I talk to Dive the more I see they're actually trying to solve the game instead of coast. 

This is honestly a very funny chain - Dive doesn't fully trust me but I've made enough of an effort to convince him, and I didn't fully trust IHAT but he's made enough of an effort to convince me. 😅

So KSOS TUO

 

Posted

Doc and I have been talking extensively in PMs, and he's explained a good deal of things, and I'm willing to reevaluate from that. So, I'm willing to switch to TUO who is the second on my suspicion list. There is a world where the elims are just letting the village talk themselves into eliminating one of their own, and that is a possibility with some people coming across as not being proactive in these past couple hours

Doc12

TUO

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Doc12 said:

Alright. I've been chatting furiously with Dive and IHAT. I am functionally placing my full trust in IHAT because right now he's the only person voting with me when he could very justifiably turn on me. And the more I talk to Dive the more I see they're actually trying to solve the game instead of coast. 

This is honestly a very funny chain - Dive doesn't fully trust me but I've made enough of an effort to convince him, and I didn't fully trust IHAT but he's made enough of an effort to convince me. 😅

So KSOS TUO

 

I don’t trust Dive yet, we’ll see if he’s makes enough of an effort to convince me, lol.

Ksauce Unknown

Edited by Ookla the Broken
I spelt unknown wrong, lol
Posted
2 minutes ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

Doc TUO

Doc (2): Honor, Mippo

KSauce (1): Stick

TUO (4): Doc, Dive, IHAT, KSauce

38 minutes remain.

Thank you.  It was a tie before and I don't break them. But now that you've voted, I can vote.

TUO

Posted

Well I must say, I tried my hardest to argue in my favor but i didn't expect this much of a turnaround. 

I've got to go to bed now. Hopefully I'll  see you all on the other side! 

Posted
1 minute ago, Stick. said:

…it’s Alv isnt it

 

i think we’ve lost lmao 

 

glgl

Well

It can't only be Alv so...

I actually should've voted TUO earlier

I kept thinking how odd it was that he's still around, since in games I've played the elims usually get him early on

Posted (edited)

So you're saying I can create a tie between the two players I'm most distrustful of?

Ksauce 

edit: So I just checked back in to look before rollover, and apparently some weird connection thing happened where my earlier post (that didn't post earlier?) posted now

Edited by The Unknown Ookla
Posted
1 minute ago, Ookla the Wallfacer said:

It can't only be Alv so...

Why not?  Nothing says there has to be more than one elim.

6 minutes ago, Stick. said:

…it’s Alv isnt it

The Usual Suspects (1995) - IMDb

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