Long Game 104: The Flame of Tar Valon

[Kasimir he/him]

Sorry @Teldris Anuar! They should really have let you play the game and I hope this doesn't sour your experience and you had fun regardless. (I know you can't reply in here, but damn, I honestly think that was a really off-putting choice of kill target.)

[Aeternum]

Low info kill lol? Either wifom or we're all on the wrong track. Checked their posts and it would only really point towards STINK, who imo should be looked at today regardless. Or maybe in Terrisman / BridgeBoi / Steeldancer. There's a lot of ways one could read into the NK in terms of where the elim agenda is going (given they have multiple ways to win).

I'm feeling a bit better about TwinStorm off of more recent posts during n1 ftr.

Also Kas, Sart is a sitter  (and if it matters, Teldris Anuar seemed to trust Sart the most).

GGs Teldris, hope you enjoyed your very short amount of time in the game!

[The Wandering Wizard he/him]

8 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Wow Elims that's a really low blow It's interesting as a choice because this severely breaks the 'don't shoot new players, let them have fun in the game' taboo, and makes me feel like it's not the sort of NK someone like Ash goes for, for instance.

...Sart's Elim isn't he.

What makes you think this would be a Sart kill?

[Kasimir he/him]

7 minutes ago, Aeternum said:

Also Kas, Sart is a sitter  (and if it matters, Teldris Anuar seemed to trust Sart the most).

It's a joke vote because the last two times we had someone C1 a new player, i.e. breaking the unwritten rule of SE, it was Sart of all people  Both in Araris's RP-only LG and in my QF with the Smoking Gun.

...One day, I'll let Sart live  But it won't be today!

7 minutes ago, Aeternum said:

Checked their posts and it would only really point towards STINK, who imo should be looked at today regardless.

I'm a little curious STINK would be ok with this tbh. I feel like most vets are aware it's just Not Done to C1 a new player on their very first game.

Edited to add:

@The Wandering Wizard - See above.

Edited March 24, 2025 by Kasimir

[The Wandering Wizard he/him]

2 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

It's a joke vote because the last two times we had someone C1 a new player, i.e. breaking the unwritten rule of SE, it was Sart of all people  Both in Araris's RP-only LG and in my QF with the Smoking Gun.

...One day, I'll let Sart live  But it won't be today!

I'm a little curious STINK would be ok with this tbh. I feel like most vets are aware it's just Not Done to C1 a new player on their very first game.

Edited to add:

@The Wandering Wizard - See above.

Ah I see, well the Green Ajah won't be able to still him if he is evil.  

[Sart he/him]

10 minutes ago, Kasimir said:

Wow Elims that's a really low blow It's interesting as a choice because this severely breaks the 'don't shoot new players, let them have fun in the game' taboo, and makes me feel like it's not the sort of NK someone like Ash goes for, for instance.

...Sart's Elim isn't he.

I view killing as a respectful gesture. If you've done something worthy of killing, that means you're doing great in your first game. However, this wasn't my doing. It would be flattering if this was an attempt to frame me. I'm wondering if this was a mechanical kill. Surprised they didn't go after Gaea at that point though.

[Terrisman]

1 hour ago, Kasimir said:

Vote Kas for NK target!

I vow to turn the deadspec doc into a live WWE reaction/replay doc!

I want to join

[The Wandering Wizard he/him]

Going to vote TUF, feels well within his meta to me.

[Sart he/him]

Working on vote analysis, but noticed something that needs fixing.

@|TJ| Fix your player list please. It still has Experience listed instead of Aeternum.

[BridgeBoi]

This seems like a RNG kill to me. Could be wrong but I was expecting Kas to be killed. To be honest, I haven’t interacted with Teldris very much. What’s the lowdown on what they did in the last cycles?

Right now, TUF. not voting based off vibes (I’ve learned my lesson there) but bc of the sus vote on Kas, who I am pretty sure is town.

[Terrisman]

TUF

Edited March 25, 2025 by Terrisman

[Aeternum]

TUF is basically always getting bussed if elim, and elims are almost always voting there if town lol.

Don't think kill was RNG - when I thought about it, that did make a lot of sense for a low info kill (given that other lower content posters were under more suspicion).

1 hour ago, Kasimir said:

I'm a little curious STINK would be ok with this tbh. I feel like most vets are aware it's just Not Done to C1 a new player on their very first game.

Does this mean you'd assume a less experienced overall elim team? Or more specifically, who would be unlikely to make that kill?

[TwinStorm He/Him]

hmmm

Teldris really?

c'mon elims

that stupid

well imma go Sart for right now, but that could change, since a valid elim strategy would be to frame

[BridgeBoi]

What Ajah was Teldris in? Cause that means their sitter is less likely to be black. They weren’t blue. 

[Sart he/him]

Stealing Kasimir's vote count formatting, just updating it slightly:

Quote

KelsierApologist (5): The Wandering Wizard, Ashbringer, Steeldancer, Terrisman, xxGaea
Kasimir (3): TwinStorm, The Unknown Flame, BridgeBoi
TwinStorm (2): Aeternum, Mark IV
xxGaea (2): Kasimir, Sart
Ashbringer (1): ThatOneWorldhopper
DrakeMarshall (1): Joe
STINK (1): Teldris Anuar
No Vote (3): KelsierApologist, STINK, DrakeMarshall

There's an incentive for Black Ajah Sitters to bus teammates in this game. Much easier to get elected if you've killed an evil player. So, I'll be less suspicious of players who are not seated and voted for Polly. That means Wizard, Ash, and Gaea are all looking fairly good.

@The Unknown Flame, it seems likely that you'll be getting executed. You have 48 hours though, so impress me. What arguments do you have?

In the interest of spurring discussion, I'm going to go against the grain here. Mark IV. I really disliked your last post in Day 1.

Felt like an Elim not caring about end of day shenanigans. At that point, Polly was tied with Drake, but Polly hadn't put their vote down anywhere. I could see an Elim teammate not being too concerned, and building an off ramp for the train. Drake's train wasn't really sustainable, due to his inactivity, and Kasimir was very vocal, and thus not an appetizing target. Putting a vote on someone with only one vote could give Polly a more desirable target to land on. @Mark IV Care to disagree?

[TwinStorm He/Him]

@|TJ| can I still use my Ajah ability if TUF gets executed and I'm the only one left?

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

1 hour ago, The Wandering Wizard said:

Going to vote TUF, feels well within his meta to me.

Really? You think I would kill a newbie? @Kasimir can back me on at least this. I'm very attentive about not killing newbies and returning players.

43 minutes ago, Aeternum said:

TUF is basically always getting bussed if elim, and elims are almost always voting there if town lol.

Don't think kill was RNG - when I thought about it, that did make a lot of sense for a low info kill (given that other lower content posters were under more suspicion).

Does this mean you'd assume a less experienced overall elim team? Or more specifically, who would be unlikely to make that kill?

And either way I'm dead. 

16 minutes ago, Sart said:

@The Unknown Flame, it seems likely that you'll be getting executed. You have 48 hours though, so impress me. What arguments do you have?

Uhhh. Does this work?

[The Wandering Wizard he/him]

11 minutes ago, The Unknown Flame said:

Really? You think I would kill a newbie? @Kasimir can back me on at least this. I'm very attentive about not killing newbies and returning players.

And either way I'm dead. 

Uhhh. Does this work?

I don't know honestly, but I do feel that this post not really defending yourself much makes it feel like you could be evil. I would be willing to change if you can convince me why I should as I don't see any reason why I should yet. 

ED1T: Very cute Quokka though

Edited March 25, 2025 by The Wandering Wizard

[The Unknown Medallion he/him]

Just now, The Wandering Wizard said:

I don't know honestly, but I do feel that this post not really defending yourself much makes it feel like you could be evil. I would be willing to change if you can convince me why I should as I don't see any reason why I should yet. 

ED1T: Very cute Quokka though

I'm not able to do a longer post rn. 

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

1 hour ago, Aeternum said:

Does this mean you'd assume a less experienced overall elim team?

I realize that this might throw me under the bus, so preemptively, I wouldn't do this, because from your banter, that can haunt you later. Personally, I'm worried about this, because I was hoping for one more day to learn the ropes. I don't know who to vote for, so I guess I'll hear everyone's arguments.

[The Wandering Wizard he/him]

1 minute ago, The Unknown Flame said:

I'm not able to do a longer post rn. 

Fair, I'm looking forward to when you can make a longer one. 

[Aeternum]

20 minutes ago, The Unknown Flame said:

And either way I'm dead. 

Mhm. From a v!you pov, there are definitely wolves voting/pushing you here since you're a consensus elim (which honestly scares me a bit how suddenly consensus it became). You're probably in the best position to solve the game here and I'd like to hear your thoughts.

9 minutes ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

I realize that this might throw me under the bus, so preemptively, I wouldn't do this, because from your banter, that can haunt you later. Personally, I'm worried about this, because I was hoping for one more day to learn the ropes. I don't know who to vote for, so I guess I'll hear everyone's arguments.

The self awareness is self aware ing.

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

2 minutes ago, Aeternum said:

The self awareness is self aware ing.

Thank you! Maybe... 

So now we can exe The Unknown Flame because he's been Stilled, but we don't have to. (I don't know why, but that part's really confusing me.)

[TwinStorm He/Him]

6 minutes ago, ThatOneWorldhopper said:

Thank you! Maybe... 

So now we can exe The Unknown Flame because he's been Stilled, but we don't have to. (I don't know why, but that part's really confusing me.)

hes no threat rn, hes been stilled, is that what you're trying to say

[Through the Living Hopper He/Him]

I'm confused by the distinction by Stilling v. exe'ing. Stilling doesn't mean that we must kick out the Stilled person, nor does it mean that the Black Ajah must eliminate them, right? 

Edit: But it means that we can?

Edited March 25, 2025 by ThatOneWorldhopper