Kasimir he/him Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 (edited) AG11/AN15: Day Three - Desolation Row The world was changing. If you had a sense for these things, as Malmoc did, dulled as it had invariably become, you could feel it in water and earth; could smell it in the air. There was a heavy presence in the ash, and on the edge of it, a sharp copper scent of bloodshed to come. Things were coming apart, one way or another. He dug into the glass jars he carried with him in the worn leather pouches. No, sage was no good here. Rosemary, to whet the dulled edge of memory. The death of the mist-cursed Lord Ruler had undone it all; the world was unravelling, thread by thread, and the old winds were lost, now, and Malmoc had the sense they would never be restored, that the world itself was lost to them, receding, fading into the ragged mists. What could you do, but accept this diminishing? To think otherwise, to cling on to the fragments of the old world, was a chasing at the wind. He found his mortar and pestle, and set them on the table. Tema, as far as Malmoc could tell, was recovering just fine, if still grumpy and a little over prone to the dramatics. Why, a little purgative never hurt anyone, not with the scent of presence and ash and wet rot that hung over Tyrian Falls, like a funeral pall. He took a pinch of rosemary from the jar, and then another one, and a third. Crushed it, grinding it slowly beneath the stone weight of the pestle. There was nothing left in the jar of mint—not even a few trace leaves, just dust. No matter how much Malmoc ran his fingers along the bottom, he could not find more than a little trace dust. That was right, he remembered: a terrible season, the mint withering in his garden. The first sign that things had not been well, he supposed. The first suggestion of the unravelling. The world changed, and Malmoc wept. The scents were too intermingled to tell apart, on this world where life and death, preservation and ruin warred, and from the ashes of both, life emerged through the cracks. The flowery wet-rotted scent of decay, the dry heat you scented among the peaks of the ashmounts, the cool, steady scent of the metals, the faintest metallic hint to the mists. The world changed, was changing, and all of it seemed to centre on this small village, nestled between Fadrex and Luthadel, the weight of all which had been, all which would ever be to be borne by a single small village, and Malmoc was not what he had once been, was unable to do anything about it. Sew had cried herself into the shaky, temporary calm that followed tears. There weren’t spikes. She had to accept that. There weren’t spikes, no matter how much she fumbled in his belongings. Nothing marked Hayden a saboteur after all, and she’d gotten an innocent man killed, and both of them were dead now, both the men who’d offered to give her their names, and it was her fault, and their blood was on her hands. She wanted her parents. The memories of her dad were distant. She thought she remembered a broad smile, the way he would gather her up in his arms and swing her about in a hug. She thought she remembered the way her dad’s warmth lit up the small spaces of the caravan. Her mum, she remembered a little better. The scent of herbs, what herbs, Sew didn’t really know; maybe a bit like resin. Her mum’s callused hands ruffling her hair, calling her dearheart. But her parents were like paintings. Each time the caravan made the trip, the memories seemed to grow ever more distant, daubed vaguely on the mind’s canvas. She couldn’t remember their faces by now, but they had to be out there, she knew it. She didn’t remember why they’d left, only that they had at one stop, and they told her they’d be back, promised her, and she promised she’d be good, and she hadn’t gone looking at first, but it had been so long and Sew had just killed a nice man, or as good as, and she tried to summon up the memories, but they were unravelling in her grasp. A hint of a half-remembered scent. A smile. A memory of love. She wanted them here, now. Wanted her dad to sweep her into his arms, to tell her everything was going to be all right. Wanted her mum to ruffle her hair, to promise her that she’d be okay. Because Sew had the distinct realisation that she’d killed someone, and how did you live with that, how did you go back from it, there were no spikes, he wasn’t a saboteur, and he probably wasn’t her dad but it wasn’t right, and the world wasn’t going to be right again. She wanted her parents. Malmoc set the mortar and pestle down, the scent of crushed herbs still lingering in the air, and went to check on Tema. Really, Tema was going to be fine, but still, Satrams had insisted that Malmoc take Tema back home with him, and so he was forced to put the groaning and complaining mayor up in a small antechamber, the one he always used for visiting patients. Tema’d gone quiet, though, and Malmoc thought he could hear Mihtig hissing. That wasn’t any good. There was only the thin smear of herbal oils on his fingers, nothing he could quite work with. The doorway was open. “Mihtig!” Malmoc screamed, his heart in his mouth as the hooded figure, blood still dripping from the knife, swung at Mihtig—and missed. Mihtig hissed and scratched at the hooded figure’s face, and Malmoc wasn’t going to just stand there while they attacked Mihtig, and he flung himself at the killer. They both went crashing to the floor. Malmoc tried to wrestle for the knife, but the killer was stronger and younger than he was, and twisted it away from his grasping fingers. In the tussle, the killer’s hood dropped, and Malmoc instantly recognised who he was struggling against. “You,” he whispered. The hesitation, the moment in which he’d startled, cost him. “Old fool,” the killer snarled, and then there was a terrible coldness. Malmoc looked down. The hilt of the knife protruded from his chest. He reached for it, thinking to do something, to save Mihtig, to stop the killer from attacking , but the last of his strength melted away, and his vision went hazy, clouding; went dark. There was the scent again: wet-rot, darkness, death. Ruin. It was Mihtig who found Clem. Clem was coming back from a shift at the palisades when he heard a frantic hiss, and saw Mihtig streak across the open ground and bat at his leg. “Mihtig?” he asked. “What’s wrong? Ow!” Mihtig batted at his leg again, with a hint of claw this time. “All right, all right, I’m coming,” Clem muttered. He followed the frantic cat, jogging across half the village, and immediately sped up when he caught the scent of something terrible. Smoke. He tore across the last of the distance, realising he had broken out into an open run. By the time he turned the corner, he knew what was happening, what he had not wanted to see. Malmoc’s home was on fire. @Amethyst Scorpion was killed! He was a Village Vanilla! The Day has begun! It will end in 48 hours on the 18th January 2025, 11PM ET. PMs remain open! Please include both myself and @Araris Valerian in all PMs made. Nailed to the bulletin board outside the Hound and Hustle: Spoiler This is still your REAL tineye (apologies, I will have a more fun message Night 3). …how about some hangman? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ It’s very easy. I will accept the first 3 letters guessed in the thread and update the puzzle N3. If someone manages to guess the entire word just off the length alone, then I will just reveal the word N3. Player List: Spoiler 1. @Amber Vulture - Sauve Chad (Ruinous Skeptic) 2. Amethyst Scorpion - Malmoc (Herbalist) - Village Vanilla 3. @Azure Mouse - (Watcher) 4. @Charcoal Hyena - Lysia (Tinker) 5. @Chartreuse Penguin - [Ade]mordna Niugnep 6. @Coral Swan - Acks (Matchmaker) 7. Cream Tuatara - Hayden Vendel (Drunk) - Village Lurcher 8. @Emerald Falcon - (Observer) 9. @Fuchsia Ostrich - Kael Voss 10. @Indigo Weasel - Nibbles (Chef) 11. @Ivory Dragonfly - Sew (Hopeful Orphan) 12. Magenta Albatross - Alais Short (Gambler) - Village Vanilla 13. @Mauve Crocodile - (Jaist) 14. @Melon Dingo - Rind (Orphaned By Mistwraiths) 15. @Mint Heron - Byrar (Unlucky Craftsman) Edited January 30, 2025 by Kasimir
Mauve Crocodile Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 (edited) Ivory Dragonfly EDIT: Quote Also, this whole post: 11 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said: One of two scenarios occurred yesterday: 1. I saved myself from the exe there - if this is the case, I had put in my vote manip actions preemptively /before/ the votes on Tuatara appeared, and was unable to return in time to change my action (I would have changed them to protect Tuatara). 2. Someone else saved me from the exe. If this is the case, this player is 100% a villager. Zero chance elims did this. Praise the Ja Expand Is absolutely bizarre to me. Why are you doing analysis on your own actions? Did you or did you not submit vote manip actions last night? And why on earth would someone saving you be 100% villager? You are aware that it was that specific action that killed Tuatara, right? Unless you're a village Mistborn, that soothing demonstrably helped the eliminators more than the village. It’s not analyzing my own actions, it’s providing an explanation if I AM a soother and extracting a read in the case that I am not. If you think I should’ve just claimed soother/not soother there then I have to say, that isn’t ideal at all and just gives the elims more information. @Charcoal Hyena Praise the Ja Edited January 17, 2025 by Mauve Crocodile
Emerald Falcon Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Quote Azure Mouse Melon Dingo? Mauve Crocodile Charcoal Hyena Indigo Weasel Chartreuse Penguin Ivory Dragonfly Mint Heron Amber Vulture Fuchsia Ostrich Coral Swan
Mauve Crocodile Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 I think today’s exe needs to be between Mint Heron and Ivory dragonfly @Azure Mouse @Charcoal Hyena @Chartreuse Penguin @Coral Swan @Emerald Falcon @Fuchsia Ostrich @Indigo Weasel @Melon Dingo Id like a read on both Heron and Dragonfly from all of you, please. @Mint Heron @Ivory Dragonfly I’d like reads on each other from you guys, please. Praise the Ja
Melon Dingo Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 "A- Actually I'm not so sure about that anymore." Rind walked quietly over to the Jaist. He had never quite brought himself to trust the priest, but they were no different there than anyone else in the village. "Byrar claimed he could burn copper, and Sew sought me out earlier to do the same, though said she didn't stop my soothing him." He glaces apologetically at Sew. That secret wasn't his to share, but with suspicion building against her any information seemed relevant. "If you're a soother, Jaist, then Byrar's claim makes sense. It's a bit unlikely this small a group would have two smokers, but not near impossible. There's quite a few people here who haven't spoken up much and I'd like to hear from them just as much as those two."
Indigo Weasel Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 E for 3 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said: I think today’s exe needs to be between Mint Heron and Ivory Dragonfly Nibbles wonders why you didn't ping Vulture 27 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: "A- Actually I'm not so sure about that anymore." Rind walked quietly over to the Jaist. He had never quite brought himself to trust the priest, but they were no different there than anyone else in the village. "Byrar claimed he could burn copper, and Sew sought me out earlier to do the same, though said she didn't stop my soothing him." He glaces apologetically at Sew. That secret wasn't his to share, but with suspicion building against her any information seemed relevant. "If you're a soother, Jaist, then Byrar's claim makes sense. It's a bit unlikely this small a group would have two smokers, but not near impossible. There's quite a few people here who haven't spoken up much and I'd like to hear from them just as much as those two." When was this, Night 2? Nibbles doesn't agree that there being only two smokers is unlikely, since they're a role with limited power, but counter-claiming is very villagey. Dingo claiming the vote manipulation is also a villagey look. A Spiked may have just kept it secret. Unless it's a necessity to keep e!Crocodile from being instantly voted off for how the vote went down. But if they subterfuged to buy time, probably best to distance, knowing Crocodile may eventually flip. Heron
Melon Dingo Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 19 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Dingo claiming the vote manipulation is also a villagey look. Rind looks up, hearing his name. "I actually have a bit more to discuss about that tonight, but for now all I'll say is I'm a little inclined to trust the Jaist's claim." "Sauve (@Amber Vulture) is definetely someone I'd like to hear from. They spoke in defence of Hayden, but only right as the day ended, and didn't change their vote from Falcon all day."
Mint Heron Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 4 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said: @Mint Heron @Ivory Dragonfly I’d like reads on each other from you guys, please. While it’s reasonable to think that at least one of us is an elim, I think focusing only on two people is overlooking a lot. Almost feels like you’re trying to divert attention from yourself. also why has nobody brought up Scorpions death?
Mauve Crocodile Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 2 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: "A- Actually I'm not so sure about that anymore." Rind walked quietly over to the Jaist. He had never quite brought himself to trust the priest, but they were no different there than anyone else in the village. "Byrar claimed he could burn copper, and Sew sought me out earlier to do the same, though said she didn't stop my soothing him." He glaces apologetically at Sew. That secret wasn't his to share, but with suspicion building against her any information seemed relevant. "If you're a soother, Jaist, then Byrar's claim makes sense. It's a bit unlikely this small a group would have two smokers, but not near impossible. There's quite a few people here who haven't spoken up much and I'd like to hear from them just as much as those two." So Mint and Dragonfly both claim Smoker then? And you claim Soother? When did this happen. Bro why are these claims out in the open at just D3 lol xD what happened to keeping the elims guessing… If anyone has claims they’d like to make, please just make them in PMs to /people you trust/. Speaking of which, I am not a soother. Figure I’d clear that up. @Melon Dingo when did you try to sooth Heron? D1 or D2? 2 hours ago, Indigo Weasel said: E for Nibbles wonders why you didn't ping Vulture forgor 44 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: While it’s reasonable to think that at least one of us is an elim, I think focusing only on two people is overlooking a lot. Almost feels like you’re trying to divert attention from yourself. also why has nobody brought up Scorpions death? I don’t mind being the center of attention, do you have any questions to ask me? What did you make of the scorpion death? I don’t really have many thoughts about that If you think it’s ‘reasonable’ to suggest there’s an elim between you and dragonfly, and you know your alignment (assume v from your pov), shouldn’t that make dragonfly a very likely elim to you? Why aren’t you voting them? Praise the Ja
Kasimir he/him Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Just now, Mauve Crocodile said: Bro why are these claims out in the open at just D3 lol xD Spoiler
Indigo Weasel Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Salmon seems sus, let's vote for them 1 hour ago, Mint Heron said: also why has nobody brought up Scorpions death? Well they couldn't attack Tuatara anymore, so they had to pick someone. Scorp seemed villagey, so it's not as surprising as D1 38 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said: So Mint and Dragonfly both claim Smoker then? And you claim Soother? When did this happen. Bro why are these claims out in the open at just D3 lol xD what happened to keeping the elims guessing… If anyone has claims they’d like to make, please just make them in PMs to /people you trust/. Speaking of which, I am not a soother. Figure I’d clear that up. @Melon Dingo when did you try to sooth Heron? D1 or D2? Honestly, putting roleclaims in RP seems to be working for maintaining opsec
Melon Dingo Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 45 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said: @Melon Dingo when did you try to sooth Heron? D1 or D2? "Day two, to try and save Hayden. I didn't soothe anyone before that." 50 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said: Speaking of which, I am not a soother. Figure I’d clear that up. "If not, then maybe Byrar rioting someone yesterday still seems likely? After what happened then I'm definetely not the only emotional allomancer here." 1
Indigo Weasel Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 2 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: "Day two, to try and save Hayden. I didn't soothe anyone before that." Genuine question, why not? Nibbles offers a if you elaborate
Melon Dingo Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 "I didn't see a reason." Rind began. "I didn't know who to trust, who not to, and I didn't want to distract from discussion when the votes inevitably didn't line up. I didn't plan on revealing it, but when Hayden was in danger I didn't see another way of saving him. I believed he was a Lurcher, so keeping him around was far more important. The Jaist had broken parity just before I ended up sharing, but I didn't process that until after I had already spoken."
Mauve Crocodile Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 3 hours ago, Indigo Weasel said: Honestly, putting roleclaims in RP seems to be working for maintaining opsec On the one hand, they're harder to spot that way, yes. On the other hand, elims almost definitely are explicitly looking for soft claims so they probably saw it. Which makes me want to wagon Ivory Dragonfly because how dare they be observant! I'm willing to v read Melon Dingo as well. You on the other hand I am not so sure about, Weasel. @Emerald Falcon how are you currently reading me? Praise the Ja
Mint Heron Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 4 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said: So Mint and Dragonfly both claim Smoker then? And you claim Soother? When did this happen. Bro why are these claims out in the open at just D3 lol xD what happened to keeping the elims guessing… If anyone has claims they’d like to make, please just make them in PMs to /people you trust/. Speaking of which, I am not a soother. Figure I’d clear that up. @Melon Dingo when did you try to sooth Heron? D1 or D2? forgor I don’t mind being the center of attention, do you have any questions to ask me? What did you make of the scorpion death? I don’t really have many thoughts about that If you think it’s ‘reasonable’ to suggest there’s an elim between you and dragonfly, and you know your alignment (assume v from your pov), shouldn’t that make dragonfly a very likely elim to you? Why aren’t you voting them? Praise the Ja I didn’t want to reveal my role, but Dingo pretty much did it for me. As for why I haven’t voted dragonfly, I’ll generally wait to hear from most people before voting. I didn’t say that I thought me or dragonfly was an elim, just that I understood others suspicion because we killed a village lurcher. However, since I thought Hayden was guilty, I cannot fault another for thinking the same. If there are other reasons to suspect Dragonfly, I could support that, but I’m not about to condemn them when I made the same mistake. Not that I like revealing my role, but I think Dingo is town. e! Dingo could have easily let Hayden die without saying a word
Ivory Dragonfly Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Sew was a bit miffed that Dingo revealed her role to the whole town, but that was done now. "You want my take on Bryar (Mint Heron)? Well..." She hesitated, concerned. "The double Smoker thing is throwing me. If Melon is tellin' the truth, that means we've got two Soothers, right? And he's not got a lot of reason to lie, especially since he got the claim from Bryar and myself. So, there's two Smokers, and two people with Vote Manipulation. The priest claims it wasn't him. So, somebody got the vote into a tie. Despite his claims, the priest was gettin' a fair amount of heat, so I don't understand why a stranger would do that. This is where my mind's racin' to. Do the Spiked have vote manipulation? They made a tie on purpose. I know I'm good, and Tuatara was good. That's two out of four targets. The lead target was the priest, so regardless of alignment, they would want him in a tie. Again, not sure on Heron, since the two votes on him were so late on the day. I'm paranoid that we had another day of villagers on the blocks. I'm still mixed on Bryar as a read, but from a mechanical point of view, I trust them."
Indigo Weasel Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 38 minutes ago, Ivory Dragonfly said: but from a mechanical point of view, I trust them That's nuts! Maybe before we hard commit to mech clears, let's nail down what happened Day 2. Night 2, Dingo claimed to have Soothed Heron's vote on Tuatara. This had no discernable effect. Tuatara stayed at two votes, and lost the RNG because a vote was removed from the 3-vote Crocodile wagon by someone else, making it a 4-way 2-vote tie. Night 2, Heron validates Dingo's claim by claiming to be a Smoker. E!Dingo can't guess Heron will do this, so this must be based on a real role interaction. e!Dingo has little incentive to reveal their ability, so Dingo's probably a villager. Nibbles thinks there's a possibility that Falcon is a Rioter, which is only really relevant when mocking up role distros (changing 2 Soothers to 1 Soother, 1 Rioter). @Kasimir if a Rioter attempts to change the vote of a Smoked target, would they still lose their own vote? Otherwise there's two Soothers in play. Or, people who can Soothe. It's a very important distinction. 8 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said: Speaking of which, I am not a soother. Figure I’d clear that up. A very important distinction. Especially if someone's being cute about whether or not they removed a vote from themselves D2. D3 Dragonfly, prompted by Dingo, claims to be a Smoker. This raises the question of would the distro have two village Smokers. That's a red herring, the correct answer is that all Smokers are always evil. We really should execute them both.
Emerald Falcon Posted January 18, 2025 Posted January 18, 2025 4 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said: On the one hand, they're harder to spot that way, yes. On the other hand, elims almost definitely are explicitly looking for soft claims so they probably saw it. Which makes me want to wagon Ivory Dragonfly because how dare they be observant! I'm willing to v read Melon Dingo as well. You on the other hand I am not so sure about, Weasel. @Emerald Falcon how are you currently reading me? Praise the Ja Town. 17 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: Nibbles thinks there's a possibility that Falcon is a Rioter I'm not. 17 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: This raises the question of would the distro have two village Smokers. That's a red herring, the correct answer is that all Smokers are always evil. We really should execute them both. They're probably a difference check (v/e).
Mint Heron Posted January 18, 2025 Posted January 18, 2025 46 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: the correct answer is that all Smokers are always evil. We really should execute them both. I have been confused by your logic this entire game. are you saying that you think me and dragonfly are guilty because we are smokers, or you think we’re guilty and we are smokers? Byrar’s lungs are fine, if that’s what you’re implying (aside from ash inhalation due to the weather of his planet.)
Araris Valerian he/him Posted January 18, 2025 Author Posted January 18, 2025 56 minutes ago, Indigo Weasel said: if a Rioter attempts to change the vote of a Smoked target, would they still lose their own vote? Yes. Of course in any case where a Rioter is Smoked, the vote is not lost.
Amber Vulture Posted January 18, 2025 Posted January 18, 2025 12 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: Rind looks up, hearing his name. "I actually have a bit more to discuss about that tonight, but for now all I'll say is I'm a little inclined to trust the Jaist's claim." "Sauve (@Amber Vulture) is definetely someone I'd like to hear from. They spoke in defence of Hayden, but only right as the day ended, and didn't change their vote from Falcon all day." Sauve Chad disagrees much with this statement. He feels like Rind is being unfair to him and is not understanding Sauve Chad's intentions. Melon Dingo. Those who go after those blessed by the Lord Ruler are cursed.
Melon Dingo Posted January 18, 2025 Posted January 18, 2025 As elusive as they'd been, Vulture's answer didn't reassure Rind. "If I misunderstand then please do elaborate." A revenge vote with no explanation, after Rind had placed his own only to draw out a response, did not sit right with him.
Amber Vulture Posted January 18, 2025 Posted January 18, 2025 24 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: As elusive as they'd been, Vulture's answer didn't reassure Rind. "If I misunderstand then please do elaborate." A revenge vote with no explanation, after Rind had placed his own only to draw out a response, did not sit right with him. I am interested if you are still willing to follow this post instead of choosing to pursue another target. However, the following post: 8 hours ago, Melon Dingo said: "I didn't see a reason." Rind began. "I didn't know who to trust, who not to, and I didn't want to distract from discussion when the votes inevitably didn't line up. I didn't plan on revealing it, but when Hayden was in danger I didn't see another way of saving him. I believed he was a Lurcher, so keeping him around was far more important. The Jaist had broken parity just before I ended up sharing, but I didn't process that until after I had already spoken." Feels completely unnecessary given that you were fully advocating against the Tuatara vote, going as far as to vote Heron for pushing Tuatara. This post is problematic as it's not only untrue, but it also just doesn't line up with prior posts. I believe that you are a spiked for this post, as spiked are all about themselves and their own ambitions.
Emerald Falcon Posted January 18, 2025 Posted January 18, 2025 Stop voting Melon Dingo ty ty. Mint Heron / Ivory Dragonfly is likely a difference check at the very least. Unlikely there are 2 town Smokers + town Lurcher + town Soother imo (Melon Dingo is likely town), at the very least, not counting any other PRs. I doubt that they are both town in any case, honestly. This is not a town reason to vote a PR. This is a terrible reason to justify a vote on a self-resolving slot. I almost would just flip both at this point. Can someone confirm they both claimed Smoker specifically, ty. @Amber Vulture give reads. However, I am going to vote Amber Vulture who is basically openwolfing right now. Amber Vulture (2): Melon Dingo, Emerald Falcon Ivory Dragonfly (1): Mauve Crocodile Melon Dingo (1): Amber Vulture
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