Anniversary Game 11/Anonymous Game 15: Memory of Tyrian Falls

[Ivory Dragonfly]

This is fine. Everything was fine. She was fine. She hadn't died. She killed the drunk. It was fine. Where were the spikes? He had to have spikes. That was the only thing that made sense. Where were they? She was digging through his clothing. They weren't there. Where were they? She couldn't have done this. She couldn't have killed an innocent man. It was also so clear. He had to have been faking the attack. Where were the rusting spikes.

She collapsed at some point. There was blood on her hands, and no amount of washing would get it off.

[Emerald Falcon]

No way, who could've predicted that! Almost like we should let PRs self-resolve! C'mon y'all. Get it together.

@Charcoal Hyena and @Fuchsia Ostrich where were you yesterday.

@Mint Heron and @Ivory Dragonfly why were you voting a PR claim, and specifically to Ivory Dragonfly - why were you voting a PR claim that I missed and you had to point out to me?

@Mauve Crocodile why do you think there was a vote negated on your wagon?

I really need town to step it up a bit here, because I am finding it so hard to have even semi-confident townreads, and I really prefer to play by PoE rather than hunt for elims, so this is absolutely tanking my solving ability here.

Tonight, town needs to refocus and look back over the previous days. We now know wagons on d1 were v/v. I'd lean towards whoever broke the tie close to EoD being town (Charcoal Hyena I think?), since v/v wagons would mean an elim wouldn't really care about that.  At the very least, read through the spoiler in this post by Coral Swan, which has a pretty good recap of day 1's events.

I will eventually get around to my own re-reading of the days, but I'm low effort this game, sorry.

...

The locals seem to have lost their minds. I couldn't do much other than sit and watch, since they had seemingly not understood my points. I put my head in my hands and sigh, wishing I could get out of this nightmare.

I find there is a major issue with this town. That is the lack of working together to solve. Perhaps many have decided that whispered conversations away from the others were a better means of finding the saboteurs. But this death is truly a slap in the face.

In a flash of anger, I stand up.

"All of you need to get ahold of yourselves and actually commit to solving these murders," I shout across the room. Silence falls, and I blink, surprised at myself. Pretty uncharacteristic of me, but I meant it. This town is doomed to fall to the saboteurs at this rate.

I quickly slide back into my seat and pretend my outburst didn't exist. Perhaps this will help everyone start discussing the murders in more depth.

[Amethyst Scorpion]

1 minute ago, Emerald Falcon said:

why do you think there was a vote negated on your wagon?

“Why do you think?” Malmoc said irritably, calling Mihtig to him off Aralis’ head. “Once you might have missed a claim to metals, but twice bespeaks an unwillingness to look that not even the strongest coriander can overpower. Why we are being so free with this knowledge, I really cannot say. But I am going somewhere to think about all of this. I invite people to recall the events that just happened, and look carefully, and smell carefully. Since we lost one of our only sources of protection, though, let’s make this night count. If the saboteurs have assassins, anyone could be dead by morning. Best to have something worth them killing you over before then.” He stalked out into the open night.

[Emerald Falcon]

My initial guess I had written out and then deleted is not always true iirc. If Mauve Crocodile claimed, I missed it and I may be legit throwing atp. I have the worst reading comprehension ever, I might've missed something even if it was obvious. You gotta bold it and put it in size 7 font for me to 100% notice.

[Amethyst Scorpion]

A handful of herbs swirls back into the Hound and Hustle. Straight twigs, actually, rosemary stems with the herb itself stripped from them. They fall in a pattern on the floor, and Mihtig briefly pops in to arrange them into runes. Malmoc is half a block away when they are finally in a readable arrangement:

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Rind burnt brass.

 

[Emerald Falcon]

... let's not comment on the fact I thought that meant he was a Thug. I'm out of touch.

[Mauve Crocodile]

What an awful exe (edit: I’m confused about why we keep killing my village reads..)

Oh well

If Ivory Deagonfly and Mint Heron are two villagers color me surprised 

 

Praise the Ja

Edited January 16, 2025 by Mauve Crocodile

[Indigo Weasel]

Nibbles leaves for one hour, and y'all finally decide to vote for Heron smh

@Amber Vulture what do you think of everyone? Would you like a fresh pita?  

 

[Fuchsia Ostrich]

7 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

@Fuchsia Ostrich where were you yesterday.

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there is a long awnser and a short awnser to that question... take your pick...
 

short awnser

Spoiler

a lot of unexpected stuff with school showed up and last minite plans had to be quickly changed

long awnser... more of a rant to be honest... 

Spoiler

yesterday? was 3-4 hours of training/competition for my sport it was only supposed to be a short comp, but they had to move training to that day as well, and I don't know why... all of today? Last-minute rehearsal for drama because we are so far behind, and our opening night is next week something... also, the opening day for school was today, and due to the unfortunate reason that my vice principal is my mentor, I was nominated to show the families around campus after hours... 

And now I have to help out backstage for a drama showcase tomorrow night! and I have like 4 tests all within the next two weeks. 

 

Anyway, all that put to the side, I want to have a look at @Mauve Crocodile tonight... their actions the past few days just don't sit right with me. Especially not after their night 1 response... it just seems a little out of place with how Albatross was acting D1, at least in my opinion. I don't really have the time, energy or patience right now to do a full re-read of day 2, but I will try and share something more concrete on Saturday.

[Mint Heron]

7 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

@Mint Heron and @Ivory Dragonfly why were you voting a PR claim, and specifically to Ivory Dragonfly - why were you voting a PR claim that I missed and you had to point out to me?

Looking back, killing a PR was a bad idea. But I have no idea why he would claim it so early, for a villager, that makes him a clear target (which I guess he was). He served votes at the end of say one to give himself a chance, which a villager might do, but an elim always will. 
 

another thing that made me suspicious was how quickly dragonfly initially defended him by attacking Tautara’s accusers (including falcon, who seems eager to attack anyone who shared your previous belief). I thought this meant that it was Tautara and Dragonfly. It seemed even more likely when dragonfly started getting votes, he suddenly switched onto voting Tautara, which would make sense if the spiked thought Hayden was going down and wanted to save Dragonfly. 
 

looking back, I can see holes in my logic. But this entire game has been baffling, and I stuck with the one thing that I thought made sense. My bad. 
 

there some things that do confuse me.  Firstly, Rind said he wanted to save Hayden, but then made it a four way tie by voting me me and negating someone’s vote on Crocodile (a suspicious player who Rind gave no defense for). He could have garunteed Hayden’s survival by negating mine or Dragonfly’s vote or by voting on Crocodile. I’m not going to say I’m certain, as I clearly am not good at reading these players, but Rind actions were odd. 

Secondly, Weasels voted for me, and then proceeded to change his vote three times with minimal reasoning. When I questioned him, he responded “do you want me to vote for you again?” I would like an explanation at some point. The Apple game pointed to v!Weasel, but the father we go, the less I like his flippant voting. 

[Amber Vulture]

"My apologies for not promoting this earlier." Sauve Chad says. "Keep an eye on Ivory." 

[Mauve Crocodile]

59 minutes ago, Amber Vulture said:

"My apologies for not promoting this earlier." Sauve Chad says. "Keep an eye on Ivory." 

I said all of that right at mid-Day

Yet I am somehow the one player everyone wants to point fingers at right now (I’m not mad just amused) 

 

Praise the Ja 

 

EDIT:

By the way… Ostrich is probably just a villager, I’m about 75% certain. Keep an eye out for elims that will try to misexe them further down the line. 

Edited January 16, 2025 by Mauve Crocodile

[Melon Dingo]

Rind couldn't believe it. The one time he thought he could save someone, to be helpful, and nothing came of it. Worse than nothing. Hayden was dead. He knew that he had soothed Byrar, yet the accusations against Hayden never seemed to cease. Not only that, but the Jaist had somehow evaded the suspicion being pointed their way. There were only a few ways Rind could make sense of this.

Option one, a smoker. Whether Byrar themselves were, or another had extended their coppercloud, that would explain Rind's lack of influence. It would of course leave another soother in their midst, lulling suspicion of the Jaist.

Option two, Heron was a rioter. Despite his own accusations being quieted he could inflame others to push forth their own. In that situation drawing a vote from the Jaist might implicate the two as working together, but it's equally likely that the saboteur was trying to fuel the current suspicion against the Jaist, leaving them for the rest of the town to deal with over the coming days, and the saboteur free to strike against others.

Both were possible, but one thing was for certain. Byrar was not to be trusted.

[Mauve Crocodile]

One of two scenarios occurred yesterday:

1. I saved myself from the exe there - if this is the case, I had put in my vote manip actions preemptively /before/ the votes on Tuatara appeared, and was unable to return in time to change my action (I would have changed them to protect Tuatara).

2. Someone else saved me from the exe. If this is the case, this player is 100% a villager. Zero chance elims did this.

 

Praise the Ja

[Melon Dingo]

Rind shakes his head. Mere minutes before the end of the day, the votes had sat at two upon the priest and Sew. If the other emotional allomancer had already left for the night, then protecting the Jaist (a figure under much suspicion) would leave them alive to waste another vote the following day. The Jaist's first suggestion was a possibility, but making such a strong assumption from the second seemed a bad idea.

[Mint Heron]

48 minutes ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

I saved myself from the exe there - if this is the case, I had put in my vote manip actions preemptively /before/ the votes on Tuatara appeared, and was unable to return in time to change my action (I would have changed them to protect Tuatara).

You're saying you would have saved Tuatara even if it meant your own death? (you would have had the most votes)

 

[Azure Mouse]

I feel like I had failed. But even if I had placed my suspicions down, I don't feel safe with it.

1 hour ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

2. Someone else saved me from the exe. If this is the case, this player is 100% a villager. Zero chance elims did this.

My head tilts. My own experiences feels more inclined to suspect the opposite? An instance to place a village member in their pocket, marinating them for the saboteur's gain.

Since the first day, I've been passive. I should change that, hoping that this restless weight that hangs over me will quell. But to do that I'll need to find my own foot here, to read through and determine my reads on players. What was it I had said earlier on the first? I'd need to look back. Though I am not particularly inclinded to believe both Byrar (Heron) and Sew (Dragonfly) are elims, both or one.

[Mauve Crocodile]

1 hour ago, Melon Dingo said:

Rind shakes his head. Mere minutes before the end of the day, the votes had sat at two upon the priest and Sew. If the other emotional allomancer had already left for the night, then protecting the Jaist (a figure under much suspicion) would leave them alive to waste another vote the following day. The Jaist's first suggestion was a possibility, but making such a strong assumption from the second seemed a bad idea.

This assumes everyone involved in the tie is a villager - otherwise, you don’t protect a villager while putting one of your own at risk

If the wagons were all v, then I agree the vote manip doesn’t have to be from a villager necessarily 

 

EDIT:

51 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

You're saying you would have saved Tuatara even if it meant your own death? (you would have had the most votes)

 

Sure

 

Praise the Ja

Edited January 16, 2025 by Mauve Crocodile

[Ivory Dragonfly]

17 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

No way, who could've predicted that! Almost like we should let PRs self-resolve! C'mon y'all. Get it together.

@Charcoal Hyena and @Fuchsia Ostrich where were you yesterday.

@Mint Heron and @Ivory Dragonfly why were you voting a PR claim, and specifically to Ivory Dragonfly - why were you voting a PR claim that I missed and you had to point out to me?

@Mauve Crocodile why do you think there was a vote negated on your wagon?

Sew didn't have any good explanations. She had panicked, thought way too much about what would generate information, and had settled for Tuatara. She should have backed down, but didn't. She merely said, "Sorry. Also, what's a PR? Protect?"

5 hours ago, Melon Dingo said:

Rind couldn't believe it. The one time he thought he could save someone, to be helpful, and nothing came of it. Worse than nothing. Hayden was dead. He knew that he had soothed Byrar, yet the accusations against Hayden never seemed to cease. Not only that, but the Jaist had somehow evaded the suspicion being pointed their way. There were only a few ways Rind could make sense of this.

Option one, a smoker. Whether Byrar themselves were, or another had extended their coppercloud, that would explain Rind's lack of influence. It would of course leave another soother in their midst, lulling suspicion of the Jaist.

Option two, Heron was a rioter. Despite his own accusations being quieted he could inflame others to push forth their own. In that situation drawing a vote from the Jaist might implicate the two as working together, but it's equally likely that the saboteur was trying to fuel the current suspicion against the Jaist, leaving them for the rest of the town to deal with over the coming days, and the saboteur free to strike against others.

Both were possible, but one thing was for certain. Byrar was not to be trusted.

"Suppose you could be lyin' about the Soothe. After all, the vote was missin' on the priest, not Hayden. But then why tell people you were doin' it?" Sew didn't buy that option, and would assume Rind was telling the truth. It was more mysteries, and unlikely coincidences. She'd like an answer from @Mint Heron .

3 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

One of two scenarios occurred yesterday:

1. I saved myself from the exe there - if this is the case, I had put in my vote manip actions preemptively /before/ the votes on Tuatara appeared, and was unable to return in time to change my action (I would have changed them to protect Tuatara).

2. Someone else saved me from the exe. If this is the case, this player is 100% a villager. Zero chance elims did this.

 

Praise the Ja

"Wouldn't you know which this is? If you could change the votes, I wouldn't blame you. The second option though, I don't get your reasoning."

1 hour ago, Azure Mouse said:

I feel like I had failed. But even if I had placed my suspicions down, I don't feel safe with it.

My head tilts. My own experiences feels more inclined to suspect the opposite? An instance to place a village member in their pocket, marinating them for the saboteur's gain.

Since the first day, I've been passive. I should change that, hoping that this restless weight that hangs over me will quell. But to do that I'll need to find my own foot here, to read through and determine my reads on players. What was it I had said earlier on the first? I'd need to look back. Though I am not particularly inclinded to believe both Byrar (Heron) and Sew (Dragonfly) are elims, both or one.

She agreed with him, at least on this point. "I got suckered into following too much on a tie. They could easily want to do the same thing here."

1 hour ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

This assumes everyone involved in the tie is a villager - otherwise, you don’t protect a villager while putting one of your own at risk

If the wagons were all v, then I agree the vote manip doesn’t have to be from a villager necessarily 

 

EDIT:

Sure

 

Praise the Ja

"Right. From my perspective, I know I'm not Spiked, and Hayden obviously wasn't. If you're Spiked, they would use their powers to save one of their own. If you're not, they don't know your role, but would love stirrin' the pot. Don't know about Bryar, that last vote might have been too recent. If you're not a vote manipulator, I think it's more likely a Spiked swung this thing. Course, that requires you to trust that I'm good, which... I know that's a tall order right now."

[Coral Swan]

5 hours ago, Melon Dingo said:

Rind couldn't believe it. The one time he thought he could save someone, to be helpful, and nothing came of it. Worse than nothing. Hayden was dead. He knew that he had soothed Byrar, yet the accusations against Hayden never seemed to cease. Not only that, but the Jaist had somehow evaded the suspicion being pointed their way. There were only a few ways Rind could make sense of this.

Option one, a smoker. Whether Byrar themselves were, or another had extended their coppercloud, that would explain Rind's lack of influence. It would of course leave another soother in their midst, lulling suspicion of the Jaist.

Option two, Heron was a rioter. Despite his own accusations being quieted he could inflame others to push forth their own. In that situation drawing a vote from the Jaist might implicate the two as working together, but it's equally likely that the saboteur was trying to fuel the current suspicion against the Jaist, leaving them for the rest of the town to deal with over the coming days, and the saboteur free to strike against others.

Both were possible, but one thing was for certain. Byrar was not to be trusted.

Wait who are you saying soothed who?

[Emerald Falcon]

PR aka power role aka anyone who with an ability/night action/etc.

I think Melon claimed soothing Mint Heron, but it did not work?

I'm actually low efforting the rest of this game.

[Charcoal Hyena]

The thing that called itself Lysia trundled through the night, exhausted. She'd been too absent, she knew. But it was so hard, with the pain thrumming through each individual fragment of her body. She still had no idea what was causing it; it shouldn't be possible, between her off-world medical tech and her... other advantages. Her best guess was that there was some kind of pathogen designed by the Lord Ruler to keep people like her from meddling with his toys. She'd barely been able to pay attention that day as the locals had argued back and forth about who the Spiked were. She smiled mirthlessly at the irony; they were just throwing clues at her, giving her everything she needed to locate the Spiked and escape the loop -- and she couldn't even muster the effort to involve herself. She needed to do better. She would do better.

Or else she would die in this miserable, backwater village in the middle of nowhere.

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18 hours ago, Emerald Falcon said:

@Charcoal Hyena and @Fuchsia Ostrich where were you yesterday.

Like I said on Night 1, I'm dealing with medical issues that cause quite a lot of pain during all the time that I'm not heavily medicated. I can elaborate if you like, but I don't want to get all gross and TMI. The issue should be resolved in about a week real time.

That said, I was paying attention as much as I could, and could probably have cobbled together a post towards the end of the day. But when I last checked, it was looking like a lynch of either Heron or Dragonfly, and they both seemed acceptable to me. I could have put my support behind one, but that would have required the effort of working out which one to lynch. It didn't seem worth it.

For right now, I'm also interested in hearing if @Mint Heron has any information about why an attempted soothing on them might have failed. Also, this whole post:

4 hours ago, Mauve Crocodile said:

One of two scenarios occurred yesterday:

1. I saved myself from the exe there - if this is the case, I had put in my vote manip actions preemptively /before/ the votes on Tuatara appeared, and was unable to return in time to change my action (I would have changed them to protect Tuatara).

2. Someone else saved me from the exe. If this is the case, this player is 100% a villager. Zero chance elims did this.

 

Praise the Ja

Is absolutely bizarre to me. Why are you doing analysis on your own actions? Did you or did you not submit vote manip actions last night? And why on earth would someone saving you be 100% villager? You are aware that it was that specific action that killed Tuatara, right? Unless you're a village Mistborn, that soothing demonstrably helped the eliminators more than the village.

[Mint Heron]

Byrar had hoped he would never have needed to use his… talent again. He had made a few deals with skaa thieves in the past to make some money, giving them shelter. He had needed money as his business continued to fail, but after that resulted in his shop burning down, he swore never to use copper again. But these chaotic events had forced him to reconsider, and he had needed to make sure his emotions were his own. He had felt it necessary to make sure his vote was his own. He still felt that way. Vote manipulation was a shady tool. The town should agree publicly on who they thought was guilty, instead of relying on secret powers.

[Melon Dingo]

2 hours ago, Coral Swan said:

Wait who are you saying soothed who?

Rind turns to answer. "I soothed Byrar, or tried to at least. It doesn't seem like it worked."

5 minutes ago, Mint Heron said:

Byrar had hoped he would never have needed to use his… talent again. He had made a few deals with skaa thieves in the past to make some money, giving them shelter. He had needed money as his business continued to fail, but after that resulted in his shop burning down, he swore never to use copper again. But these chaotic events had forced him to reconsider, and he had needed to make sure his emotions were his own. He had felt it necessary to make sure his vote was his own. He still felt that way. Vote manipulation was a shady tool. The town should agree publicly on who they thought was guilty, instead of relying on secret powers.

Byrar's claim here was unsurprising, it's the only sensible thing he could do after what Rind had revealed. Rind didn't think he'd made much secret of it though.

[Araris Valerian he/him]

The Night is over!