Aeoryi she/her Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 neutral change is preservation... I interpreted cultivation as growth in knowledge or learning. Experience would've covered both up. Maybe you access investiture by... not doing anything?
bmcclure7 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aeoliae said: neutral change is preservation... I interpreted cultivation as growth in knowledge or learning. Experience would've covered both up. Maybe you access investiture by... not doing anything? No preservation is not change. He statis, he is the opposite of ruin who is change. I do see what you mean by experience it fits cultivation but it just doesn't fit Ruin. It needs to fit both for it to be a combination. But perhaps something similar could work Like Life or Age. Edited August 25, 2023 by bmcclure7
alder24 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: I wonder if Esmium-Bendalloy and Esmium-Cadmium can help here through Pushing/Pulling on time. I don't know if they work like in Allomancy, that doesn't feel right to me. But they do something with time. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Can the Sho Del communicate with Progression in any way, perhaps petition her?They open Perpendicularities annually somehow, maybe they also annually convene with her? No, she doesn't communicate with people. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: For that matter, how do the Esmians measure and delineate time? Does the planet have a moon? One repetition of Nayana's song is a day. Different fragments of the song correspond to different times of the day. No moon. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Does each community of Sho Del open a separate Perpendicularity, or is only a single one opened? Why/Why not? Who decides which community opens the Perpendicularity if only one is allowed? If multiple open, do they open at the same time or is the time unique to each community? How can they synchronize the opening if they open it at the same time? There is a small group of Sho Del in CR responsible for interCosmere trade and visitation - they open a Perpendicularity from time to time, very rarely however - once a year or so. Sho Del on Esma doesn't really care about wider Cosmere so they don't bother with Perpendicularities. They can communicate between realms - like some tech phone or something like that. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Can Sho Del communicate to other Sho Del in different communities? How/Why not? Yes. They actively travel and trade between different Trees, have some long distance communication lines established (magic phones or something like that). They have video and TV too. Not internet but still enough to keep in touch with other tree-cities. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Is it naturally Unkeyed? No, An-Neruna is keyed to Progression. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Can it subsist off of pure Investiture, if it's available? No. Sho Del could use their magic to grow the tree and keep it alive longer, but that's not enough, it would die sooner or later. It needs water, minerals and nutrients. 12 hours ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: That makes sense. I'd love to read your short story, if you'll allow it ^v^ I don't know if I ever write it, I'm not a good storyteller It has the beginning and the end, but not a middle part. It's in my mind with many other things and I don't know if I ever write it down. Hard maybe.
Underwater_Worldhopper he/him Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, alder24 said: I don't know if they work like in Allomancy, that doesn't feel right to me. But they do something with time. Doesn't have to be exactly like Allomancy, but they do something with time, so whatever it is, maybe you can exploit it. 1 hour ago, alder24 said: No, she doesn't communicate with people. Aw. 1 hour ago, alder24 said: One repetition of Nayana's song is a day. Different fragments of the song correspond to different times of the day. No moon. That's clever. Can the Sho Del or other lifeforms hear/interact with the Rhythms of Esma? 1 hour ago, alder24 said: There is a small group of Sho Del in CR responsible for interCosmere trade and visitation - they open a Perpendicularity from time to time, very rarely however - once a year or so. Sho Del on Esma doesn't really care about wider Cosmere so they don't bother with Perpendicularities. They can communicate between realms - like some tech phone or something like that. Hmmm, interesting. I hadn't considered that. Where does the Perpendicularity open in the Physical Realm? 1 hour ago, alder24 said: Yes. They actively travel and trade between different Trees, have some long distance communication lines established (magic phones or something like that). They have video and TV too. Not internet but still enough to keep in touch with other tree-cities. How do they trade/travel between Trees? 1 hour ago, alder24 said: No, An-Neruna is keyed to Progression. I forget that you need to Unkey it from the Shard too. Does that mean Unkeyed Investiture is essentially just Investiture as it was pre-Shattering? Or was it just Keyed to Adonalsium? 1 hour ago, alder24 said: I don't know if I ever write it, I'm not a good storyteller It has the beginning and the end, but not a middle part. It's in my mind with many other things and I don't know if I ever write it down. Hard maybe. You dont need to dress it up in fancy prose or anything. Just a simple timeline of events sort of thing could work too =D
alder24 Posted August 25, 2023 Posted August 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: That's clever. Can the Sho Del or other lifeforms hear/interact with the Rhythms of Esma? Not really. Nayana sings the song in the Rhythm of Progression, but the "lyrics" differ among different Nayanas. Others simply hear her. But their heartbeat is synchronized to one particular note from her song, even the tree's heartbeat. Each species is synchronized to a different repeating note. 1 hour ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: Hmmm, interesting. I hadn't considered that. Where does the Perpendicularity open in the Physical Realm? There isn't any special place. Where they want I guess. Close to one of the trees but not too close? 1 hour ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: How do they trade/travel between Trees? I've described a hovercraft made out of this metal tech that can maintain its own small bubble of atmosphere and pushes itself up from the ice. They use this to travel and trade. 1 hour ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: I forget that you need to Unkey it from the Shard too. Does that mean Unkeyed Investiture is essentially just Investiture as it was pre-Shattering? Or was it just Keyed to Adonalsium? I think it was keyed to Adonalsium. 1 hour ago, Underwater_Worldhopper said: You dont need to dress it up in fancy prose or anything. Just a simple timeline of events sort of thing could work too =D It's kind of hard to write something when you lack the middle part and you aren't good with characters Right now it goes straight from the prologue to the finale. For now it's in my head (Ghostbloods are involved ). Edited August 25, 2023 by alder24
Void king Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 On 11/19/2020 at 9:29 AM, Ba-Ado-Fisherman said: Who is this mysterious Fused, and why do I feel like they will play an enormous role in the coming books? On 7/8/2023 at 12:15 PM, Weaver of Shadows said: What if more shards combined? We know Ruin and Preservation make Harmony, but what about others? What name would they have? Here are some ideas I had. Ruin + Odium = Malice Preservation + Honor = Stability Whimsy + Ruin = Chaos SPOILERS! Odium and Honor make Redemption. this is proven in Wind And Truth Any other ideas? Edit: this thread has become a place for fan made shard magic systems/shardworlds. It can be as specific as you want but if you include advanced calculations or science, please place it in a spoiler box at the end of your post and label it as such.
Void king Posted February 27, 2025 Posted February 27, 2025 On 7/8/2023 at 12:15 PM, Weaver of Shadows said: What if more shards combined? We know Ruin and Preservation make Harmony, but what about others? What name would they have? Here are some ideas I had. Preservation + Honor = Stability Whimsy + Ruin = Chaos Any other ideas? Edit: this thread has become a place for fan made shard magic systems/shardworlds. It can be as specific as you want but if you include advanced calculations or science, please place it in a spoiler box at the end of your post and label it as such. I would say that Ruin + Odium would make Chaos because if all the emotions like Hatred, Anger, Love, Sorrow and all the other emotions got the destructive powers of Ruin it would be Chaos. This next paragraph has spoilers for Wind and Truth. Oduim and Honor make Redemption.
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