Yuliya Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I have seen speculation that Dalinar would either become a Fused or pick up Honor in SA5. Both are interesting outcomes, but... Venli once said that if humans had a war form, it would look like Dalinar. So, what if Dalinar picked up both Honor and Odium and became a God of War? I think it would be cool if the Rhythm of War became his Dalinar's Rhythm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alder24 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 7 hours ago, Yuliya said: I have seen speculation that Dalinar would either become a Fused or pick up Honor in SA5. Both are interesting outcomes, but... Venli once said that if humans had a war form, it would look like Dalinar. So, what if Dalinar picked up both Honor and Odium and became a God of War? I think it would be cool if the Rhythm of War became his Dalinar's Rhythm. He can do it, he fits both of them well. Brandon even said that Dalinar could unite both Shards: Spoiler CephandriusTW Stormfather once said that "Three of sixteen ruled but now the Broken One reigns" and that "Odium reigns", is not crazy to think that Odium is the Broken One. My question is, could be possible to fuse Odium's shard (without Rayse) with the remanents of Honor (his Cognitive Shadow) in order to create a new whole Shard? Could Dalinar do something like that? He would be uniting them (two Shards, one of them supposed to be the Broken One and the other that we actually now is a bit broken). Brandon Sanderson [That] is possible General Reddit 2020 (June 18, 2020) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuliya Posted April 12 Author Report Share Posted April 12 3 hours ago, alder24 said: He can do it, he fits both of them well. Brandon even said that Dalinar could unite both Shards: Hide contents CephandriusTW Stormfather once said that "Three of sixteen ruled but now the Broken One reigns" and that "Odium reigns", is not crazy to think that Odium is the Broken One. My question is, could be possible to fuse Odium's shard (without Rayse) with the remanents of Honor (his Cognitive Shadow) in order to create a new whole Shard? Could Dalinar do something like that? He would be uniting them (two Shards, one of them supposed to be the Broken One and the other that we actually now is a bit broken). Brandon Sanderson [That] is possible General Reddit 2020 (June 18, 2020) Cool, I am excited to see where that goes. This way, the build-up to Dalinar having Connections to both Shards would make sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I came into this thread expecting Dalinar=Kratos comparisons. But yeah, it could be fun to see him ascend to both, though if he does, I'd be most interested to see how it twists him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantus Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 54 minutes ago, Invocation said: I came into this thread expecting Dalinar=Kratos comparisons. But yeah, it could be fun to see him ascend to both, though if he does, I'd be most interested to see how it twists him. Honestly me too. To the OP, Dalinar could become another Dual Shard and that could be cool. Short of that, though, I expect some other Spren (an UnMade most likely) to make a Bondsmith that can provide Warlight. Originally it was a Bondsmith for each Pure Tone and one for the only Hybrid. With a 3rd Pure Tone there should be one more "pure" light Bondsmith and another two Hybrid Light Bondsmiths. BAM seems the most likely/obvious for Voidlight since they already served that function. Sja-Anat might fit the personality of Freedomlight. Not sure on Warlight, Im personally holding out for an Everstorm Spren to fill that roll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 13 minutes ago, Quantus said: Not sure on Warlight, Im personally holding out for an Everstorm Spren to fill that roll. Agreed on that. An anti-highstorm that still provided Light (not just at Odium's bidding) would be great. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyKaizen Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Syl says in her interlude (I-1) in RoW, that a Bondsmith is who bound other surges and brought the humans to Roshar. So, Odium had a bondsmith? That concept seems so, wrong, from everything I have read so far. I feel like Dalinar becoming a God of War would be amazing for a lot of reasons, but I'm tripping up on the idea of Odium having a Bondsmith. It's probably just my brain rebelling against something I hadn't consciously thought about before seeing this post (directly after realizing it was a Bondsmith from Ashyn, that brought the humans to Roshar). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a Faceless Immortal Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 I mean, that is definitely a possibility! I am inclined to believe otherwise however, for two main reasons: Odium to me feels like he's going to be a major Cosmere villain, and so having him merge into the shard of War being held by Dalinar would make Dalinar said major Cosmere villain, which I really do not want to see Dalinar's character arc seems to me to be mostly about his reconciliation with the atrocities of war, and uniting people rather than creating fractures, ie wars. Both these points may be invalid because they are just my opinion, but I thought I'd throw them into the ring to see what others think of them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuliya Posted April 15 Author Report Share Posted April 15 On 4/13/2023 at 3:53 AM, a Faceless Immortal said: I mean, that is definitely a possibility! I am inclined to believe otherwise however, for two main reasons: Odium to me feels like he's going to be a major Cosmere villain, and so having him merge into the shard of War being held by Dalinar would make Dalinar said major Cosmere villain, which I really do not want to see Dalinar's character arc seems to me to be mostly about his reconciliation with the atrocities of war, and uniting people rather than creating fractures, ie wars. Both these points may be invalid because they are just my opinion, but I thought I'd throw them into the ring to see what others think of them I am with you there. I really don't like seeing characters I liked going evil. But then Sazed became very interesting when we started taking of Discord, so perhaps watching Dalinar as a Shard of War would be similarly awesome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinkPlasma Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 On 4/12/2023 at 7:53 PM, a Faceless Immortal said: I mean, that is definitely a possibility! I am inclined to believe otherwise however, for two main reasons: Odium to me feels like he's going to be a major Cosmere villain, and so having him merge into the shard of War being held by Dalinar would make Dalinar said major Cosmere villain, which I really do not want to see Dalinar's character arc seems to me to be mostly about his reconciliation with the atrocities of war, and uniting people rather than creating fractures, ie wars. Both these points may be invalid because they are just my opinion, but I thought I'd throw them into the ring to see what others think of them I think I could see a possibility where dalinar is given the opportunity to take up both shards as sazed did, but denying it. buuuuut this is still like. 6 books away. a lot can change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AquaRegia Posted April 18 Report Share Posted April 18 On 4/12/2023 at 7:53 PM, a Faceless Immortal said: Odium to me feels like he's going to be a major Cosmere villain, and so having him merge into the shard of War being held by Dalinar would make Dalinar said major Cosmere villain, which I really do not want to see One of Brandon's tremendous strengths as a writer is his ability to give us "villians" who have believable motivations, relatable backstories, and don't see themselves as villains. Was The Lord Ruler a "villain"? To Kelsier and Vin, sure... but not in his own view. How about Kelsier? Is he a "good guy"? Depends on who you ask. Taravangian? Same. A Dalinar/Honor/Odium situation could certainly be seen in a similar vein. I definitely agree that we seem to be heading towards a Roshar vs Scadrial Cosmere struggle, and both sides will certainly see themselves as the "good guy". I expect it to be delicious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaladinWorldsinger Posted April 19 Report Share Posted April 19 Sorry I have to.... Dalinar: ODIUUM! Give me the Thrill to destroy my enemies and my life is yours! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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