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56 minutes ago, The Unknown Aon said:

Devo, I actually don't think that the Alliance are all that likely to team up with eachother. The Reavers have motivation to seek them out, but there isn't much reason for the Alliance to do so if the Reavers don't contact them in my opinion.

Can you explain this more? I don’t think the Alliance will team up with each other either, but I think that’s cause they don’t know who their teammates are. If I were to guess I’d assume you’re talking about the Reavers teaming with the the Alliance, but your first sentence isn’t phrased that way.

Posted
31 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

Ok. I really don’t feel like getting exed here because I’m sticking to a gut read. Mat.

I mean. That does nothing for me as far as convincing me to vote elsewhere :P.

Posted
On 12/21/2021 at 7:20 AM, Matrim's Dice said:

Welcome to the game! Advice I’d give would be to not vote me :) Archer did already ask, but any particular reason you did?

Thanks!
Well, I mean your username is Matrim’s Dice, but you also say that you aren’t actually dice... How can I trust someone like that? <_< All jokes aside, I just kind of picked at random.

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Hey mat, want to kill archer, lotus, and Seth with me? In that order?

*szeth

15 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

I mean. That does nothing for me as far as convincing me to vote elsewhere :P.

Ok, time to lay my cards fully down on the table. Archer PMed me under the impression I was an Alliance member. I’m not. He, however, claimed he was also Alliance, so I claimed Alliance too to see what would happen. After some back-and-forth, I convinced him of my claim, and he told me he was actually a Reaver, and wanted to form an Alliance with the Alliance and go for a joint win :P. My vote on you was to further convince him I was Alliance and could be trusted. I was hoping to get more information out of him, but I can’t do that if I’m dead. If I get exed, you will see that I’m Crew, so you know you can trust the following information: Mat, Dannnex, Illwei, Ash, and TUA are not Reavers. They could be Alliance or the Operative, but they are not Reavers. Thank you for your time.

Edit: Yes, it has crossed my mind that Archer could be Crew posing as a Reaver to get information out of me. However, I think this is the less likely option, so…

Edited by Szeth_Pancakes
Posted (edited)
25 minutes ago, Illwei said:

Hey mat, want to kill archer, lotus, and Seth with me? In that order?

I’d do the other two, but I like Archer because we have a PM :P. And I don’t want to kill high active people D1, usually.

18 minutes ago, Teia said:

Thanks!
Well, I mean your username is Matrim’s Dice, but you also say that you aren’t actually dice... How can I trust someone like that? <_< All jokes aside, I just kind of picked at random.

Fair enough. But you know, I’m a human, not dice.

15 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

Ok, time to lay my cards fully down on the table. Archer PMed me under the impression I was an Alliance member. I’m not. He, however, claimed he was also Alliance, so I claimed Alliance too to see what would happen. After some back-and-forth, I convinced him of my claim, and he told me he was actually a Reaver, and wanted to form an Alliance with the Alliance and go for a joint win :P. My vote on you was to further convince him I was Alliance and could be trusted. I was hoping to get more information out of him, but I can’t do that if I’m dead. If I get exed, you will see that I’m Crew, so you know you can trust the following information: Mat, Dannnex, Illwei, Ash, and TUA are not Reavers. They could be Alliance or the Operative, but they are not Reavers. Thank you for your time.

Huh

That’s be quite the lie if it is one.

I said I don’t usually exe higher actives D1, but I think this time I’m willing to give it a shot. Szeth, Archer.

If Archer flips Crew you’re next, though. I can’t imagine why Archer would PM you and claim Alliance but the rest of that is complex enough that I’m trusting it. Maybe that’s a mistake, guess we’ll see.

Why that group as not-Reavers specifically?

Illwei, your post I quoted before Szeth’s looks kinda TMI; why’d you suggest the order you did?

Edit: Szeth’s edit does make me nervous though… it’s setting up a failure to backlash less at Szeth. But I guess there’s no definitive way for Szeth to know Archer’s alignment unless they’re both Reavers, and I’d say that’s definitely not the case lol

Edited by Matrim's Dice
Posted
6 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

Why that group as not-Reavers specifically?

He told me that it's okay to put my vote on them. He wouldn't tell me who the other Reavers were, but...

Posted
19 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

*szeth

Ok, time to lay my cards fully down on the table. Archer PMed me under the impression I was an Alliance member. I’m not. He, however, claimed he was also Alliance, so I claimed Alliance too to see what would happen. After some back-and-forth, I convinced him of my claim, and he told me he was actually a Reaver, and wanted to form an Alliance with the Alliance and go for a joint win :P. My vote on you was to further convince him I was Alliance and could be trusted. I was hoping to get more information out of him, but I can’t do that if I’m dead. If I get exed, you will see that I’m Crew, so you know you can trust the following information: Mat, Dannnex, Illwei, Ash, and TUA are not Reavers. They could be Alliance or the Operative, but they are not Reavers. Thank you for your time.

Edit: Yes, it has crossed my mind that Archer could be Crew posing as a Reaver to get information out of me. However, I think this is the less likely option, so…

I KNEW IT! XD. 

I'd prefer not to die over this. Hey Szeth, we should talk in our PM real quick. 

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Szeth_Pancakes said:

He told me that it's okay to put my vote on them. He wouldn't tell me who the other Reavers were, but...

I definitely wouldn’t hold that as that group being concrete not-Reavers if Archer is one. The majority likely aren’t, but I would not put it past reaver!Archer to stick a teammate or two in there.

1 minute ago, Archer said:

I KNEW IT! XD. 

I'd prefer not to die over this. Hey Szeth, we should talk in our PM real quick. 

And if this isn’t the most vil!Archer reaction ever idk what is .-.

Why do these things always happen at half an hour to rollover and not like yesterday

Edited by Matrim's Dice
Posted
3 minutes ago, Archer said:

I KNEW IT! XD. 

I'd prefer not to die over this. Hey Szeth, we should talk in our PM real quick. 

 

2 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:

I definitely wouldn’t hold that as that group being concrete not-Reavers if Archer is one. The majority likely aren’t, but I would not put it past reaver!Archer to stick a teammate or two in there.

And if this isn’t the most vil!Archer reaction ever idk what is .-.

Why do these things always happen at half an hour to rollover and not like yesterday

Talking to Archer now. I do feel a little like he could be village, but I'll keep you posted :P

Posted

This would be a weird thing for Szeth to do if he wasn't crew, so I won't vote for him. I have to leave now so I can't wait for Szeth and Archer to figure out what's going on there. Out of the remaining options, I'll vote for Ashbringer I guess since if Szeth is village it's marginally more likely Ash is evil and Matrim was exed C1 last game.

Posted

Okay so basically I PMed Szeth with a message saying I think we're both Alliance, and then Szeth responds in a way that genuinely made me think they were Alliance. So naturally I tell them I'm a Reaver. The plan was to go deep cover and find the Secret if the exes went poorly, or to figure out who the team was through them. I'll try and explain it better next round but yeah. That backfired. :D. And I genuinely don't know if it was because of E!Szeth being worried and pulling their ace or v!Szeth playing me

Posted

Well, this is weird.

Archer and The Unknown filling in behind me is unnerving, but if we’re mostly down to a mess between Archer and Szeth I’d mostly want to stay on Szeth. I don’t know how he’d be so confident in my non-Reaver-ness unless he or R!Archer decided to out the entire Reaver team.

Well, that and it seems like I’m option #3.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Archer said:

Okay so basically I PMed Szeth with a message saying I think we're both Alliance, and then Szeth responds in a way that genuinely made me think they were Alliance. So naturally I tell them I'm a Reaver. The plan was to go deep cover and find the Secret if the exes went poorly, or to figure out who the team was through them. I'll try and explain it better next round but yeah. That backfired. :D. And I genuinely don't know if it was because of E!Szeth being worried and pulling their ace or v!Szeth playing me

...Next round? :P

Posted (edited)

Cycle Two: Losing My Undefinable Allure

Turns out you can't trust everyone. I learned that lesson plenty over the years. It's a good one to remember. Still, never thought it'd end up like this. Companions were supposed to be independent. Outside the political structures. Yet here we have two that ended up dyin' because the Alliance is so desperate to hold to their secrets.

What else are they hidin'? Who else will they use as their pawns?


Ashbringer has been executed! They were a Companion with the Alliance!
Dannnnnnex has died! They were a Companion with the Crew!

Vote count:
Ashbringer (3) - Illwei, Devotary, Archer
Szeth (1) - Ashbringer
Archer (3) - Matrim, Szeth, Dannnnnex
Matrim (1) - Tiea

No pieces of the Secret of Miranda have been revealed!

Rule Reminder:

All PMs will be reset. You can choose to use the same thread as last turn to keep from cluttering inboxes, and I will simply count it against the two of whomever sends the first PM this turn. Araris has also asked to not be included at this time in PMs.

This turn will end Friday, December 24 at 12 p.m. (noon) PST.

Player List:

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Edited by Elandera
Posted

Oh lol

Good job I guess

I got distracted after my last post and didn’t see anything after it but I probably wouldn’t have switched off. Though today I’m not really interested in voting either Archer or Szeth.

I appreciate the elims killing my paranoid trust. Thanks.

Wonder how many Alliance voted Ash

Posted (edited)

I killed a baddie, so I'm obviously conf town. :P. Just kidding. I feel like I have some questions to answer, so fire away if you have them. That end of round was... a lot!

EDIT: Oh I forgot Danex was voting for me. Good thing I didn't stay on Szeth huh

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