Elbereth
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And you're going to get a negative answer, even if that particular statement was truthful. There is no reason for her not to have told a lie.
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Oh, that's true. I forgot about the Imre restriction. That's fine, then.
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By the way, it would be better if possible to roleblock Burnt rather than expel her. If she's expelled, she can still use actions, but if she's roleblocked she can't send in a kill or spy on PMs. It's difficult with all of the random NPC DP, I know, but it would be nice if it can be arranged.
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I will do so if I get enough points and there's no need for a GA scan. Even though I still really want the group win to happen. Well, why don't we work backwards, if no Epics are willing to claim? (Which makes me very disappointed, by the way.) I'm not an Epic. It seems likely that Aman's not, either, given his shenanigans earlier. Who else definitely isn't?
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I mean. If someone had lied, I think they would have said so by now? And Burnt would already be expelled and possibly dead? Just saying.
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Ah. Got it. Although, she did obviously have to scan at least a majority of the non-Skindancers, just in case they did actually lie. I'm tempted, I won't lie.
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What would she have gained? Legitimacy for the Skindancer, obviously. At least until she was revealed. Very useful. And that also means that the list of players is not in fact cleared. Although, she didn't actually scan any eliminators last time, so who knows?
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I mean. Even if you were scanning, you would think someone would have the sense to say "why don't we have someone else pretend to have Linguistics Analysis instead of Burnt". Eh, whatever. But seriously, gah. Why. You know if you ever become a scanner again, everyone's just going to lynch you on the spot.
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I really want to read the Skindancer doc now. What in the name of sanity made them use Burnt as the fake scanner again? Though, to be fair, my first thought when Wonko told me she was a Skindancer was "the Skindancers wouldn't have been dumb enough to have her do that again, would they?". So I guess it helped. But still...
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Ah, got it. And that would be where my loss of 2.5 points just went.
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I have 3 points. I had 5.5, but Maill corrected it. Donate, people, please! Including you, Alv. Why didn't you donate in the first place?
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No rush. Actually, I probably shouldn't even have asked that question. Every timestamp gives an indication who the Analyst can't be. So waiting 24 hours before posting any results is actually probably best.
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Ohh. I was basing my thoughts off of a false premise. I couldn't remember what happened to BB, so I presumed he was insane and we didn't know his alignment. He is a dead student, so the point isn't that Lopen and BB can't both be eliminators. It's that Lopen and the Analyst can't be eliminators. Probably. That does make sense to me. Do we have any results for the Analyst scans?
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I did PM Maill consistently during the first couple of cycles this game. Relevant parts: 1. When I mentioned trust for Kynedath and my reasoning (a Skindancer would presumably know that he's a Skindancer, not a Skincrawler, he tried to cast a little bit of supsicion there. Not a ton, though, so don't read too much into that. 2. There was a weird formatting thing for a quote, which he passed off as copying and pasting between PMs. I'm not sure that's actually what it was at this point, but it's a bit late for that. That said, there was someone else who did the same thing... I'll have to see if I can find what PM that was. 3. He asked me which field I was promoted in, during T3M1. I provided him with an answer, and together we asked most other people. Since I shared my answers with him, and he shared some things with me (their truth is debatable, of course), I should probably share them with the thread, since the Eliminators are already aware of them. So: Wonko studied in Archives and Naming. Hael elevated in Arithmetics. Dow studied in Archives, Linguistics, and Naming. That was it. I didn't tell him much either, to be fair, since I never finished asking everyone I was supposed to. This is the point at which I am a tired traveling idiot (which should totally have been my title while I was still traveling, but unfortunately I didn't think of it until just now). Lopen told me that he'd told Maill where he'd elevated. I was a bit confused, because Maill had never mentioned it to me. But instead of following up on that and accusing Maill, I instead forgot about it and didn't look at Maill again. Oops... I apologize. I completely forgot.... Did he spy on Lopen or the Analyst? If he spied on the Analyst, it's totally plausible. If he spied on Lopen, obviously they're not both Skindancers.
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Just a thought. It occurs to me that besides the current Analyst, the Masters are high priority targets for scans. Dano has been scanned, but not Lopen or Hael, as far as I remember. Yes, yes, congrats, Lopen. How nice for you.
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Um. Is that three elevations to Master I see? And nothing else? Right then.
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Either that, or our wonderful GMs are just giving and taking random points when they feel like it.
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So. I'm alone in the Pub, which is nice. Also, Shallan is a GA, by the way. And I don't have enough points to do a scan tonight.
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You literally only have one vote on you. You're doing fine. ...I guess I deserved that. Fine.
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Sure, Wonko. Burnt, mostly out of annoyance that you didn't mention your talent pipes, and, I don't know, Lopen.
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Oh, I see. I misunderstood how Pickpocket works.
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Wait, how would Danosaur's failure to pickpocket Maill be an indication of anything? Wonko, as I've said before, it's not broken. Just more difficult.
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So, Meta's a GA. I don't really understand the points in that case, but I never really did. I'm a little bit angry at myself, but not that much. I've learned my lesson. Fortunately not with huge consequences, this time. Since he was the GA Watchful Tail, we can now have scans on the streets instead, which is nice. Lopen and Alv, you can send in orders to leave, or not. Lopen's clear, so he should be fine, and Alv's basically not GA either at this rate. Stink is obviously going to do whatever he likes, which is fine. I am indeed able to do so. I'd still like to go for the group win. Just saying. And I won't be doing it this turn, because I have enough points to scan, so whoever we don't lynch I can scan. Good job to the Blood Tyrants on that front, by the way! Don't forget to keep donating points, and send in your location orders.Lopen suggested that we kill everyone at once, and thus everyone wins, even the GAs. I think this could be hilarious, and I'd love to do it if enough people go along with it. It'd forever be the one SE game when everybody won. I just want to say that I know of at least one other kill role who targeted Sart. I will do so, then. Since I have the points already. I can sort of see why people would hold back, but not really. If you don't hold back, we all win. If you do, only a few people win. You win either way. So why make it that fewer people can win? That makes no sense. Do you really have to? That said, Clanky, I'd suggest finding another headquarters soon, if this keeps up. The ferry seems to be a bit of a high traffic area
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Hey! I'm back from traveling! That means that starting tomorrow, I will post much more, though in smaller chunks, and actually be on near turnover, which is a plus. Also, RP could happen again. Yay. Okay, a couple of thoughts and then bed. That's... terrifying. I'm guessing the game would still end? I don't know. GMs, if there is one Skindancer left, and they're insane, does the game end or keep going until we've killed that Skindancer? That's not the case. In particular, the roleblock could be extremely useful in catching eliminators, particularly when the number of eliminators reduces to one or two, but not necessarily only then. For instance, if someone is voted for late enough in the cycle, or even if there's only apparently one vote on the Eliminator who is sending in the kill that cycle, if they're roleblocked and there's no reference to orders at cross-purposes in the writeup, then we can be fairly suspicious that that person is a Skindancer. That's very useful indeed, to my thinking. Oh. I am not a Skindancer. Just because. I might have things to say about the Analyst in the morning, but right now those thoughts are too complex for my brain to handle coherently. So good night.
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I don't have much time right now (though I am back from travelling, so starting tomorrow I will be actually active! Yay!), but I wanted to drop in and say that Lopen is innocent, and I have just enough points for another scan. I'll respond to everything else tomorrow.
