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[OB] Odium (and Dalinar) (and Honor) (and Cultivation)
RShara replied to Leyrann's topic in Stormlight Archive
Because of Frostlander's excellent explanation, and the quotes that I pasted above. We have three different, unrelated sources, stating he is Hatred. We have one very unreliable source, who could easily be lying, claiming he's Passion. I'm going to believe Frost, Syl, and the Listener songs -
Not to mention the Aimians, who aren't really even human. I suspect Alethi and Iriali both have some Returned blood in them, and that's why their haircolor is so fixed.
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To capture a spren in a regular gemstone seems to be..not simple...but doesn't require a highstorm. Artifabrians do it all the time. Getting a spren to enter a living gemheart, and change the form of a sapient being obviously requires quite a bit more charge.
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I'll grant you the highly Invested, but there's no evidence that the KR become CS. Several people spend a significant amount of time in the Cognitive Realm with no KR popping up. I'm sure that the spren civilizations would also have mentioned it if the KR, whom many of them hate, were hanging around as Cognitive Shadows. Just being invested a bit isn't enough to become a CS on one's own. Witness Kelsier, who used a lot of atium, and a lot of Investiture over the course of his life, yet couldn't, by himself, resist for more than a few minutes. Or Elend, who was pure Mistborn due to ingesting Lerasium, and died while burning duralumin and atium, and still didn't last very long. They could reasonably be Cognitive Shadows for a short period of time, but without having held a lot more Investiture than I think they have, I really doubt they get to hang around permanently. However, we do have this that I just found, which hints that maybe they are being imprisoned by Odium. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/35-arcanum-unbounded-hoboken-signing/#e2545 On the other hand: (I really need to read more WoB again). So Mistborn are as invested as a KR. Mistborn definitely can't stick around as CS without some sort of extra Investiture. So while KR aren't by default able to become KR, something else could, of course, alter them to be. Eshonai, as a budding Radiant and Parshendi, doesn't likely have enough Investiture to become a CS on her own.
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I'm sure they're immense and broad. He's got a lot of different kinds of Investiture in him. Not sure if he even has much of his original soul or Spiritweb left lol
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[OB] Odium (and Dalinar) (and Honor) (and Cultivation)
RShara replied to Leyrann's topic in Stormlight Archive
It's highly unlikely, for the reasons outlined above -
Didn't Odium affect the Everstorm so that it stayed around Thaylenar during the big battle? What does that do to the calculations? A reset, perhaps? (Also Odium being able to move it about makes them even harder to predict )
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[OB] Maybe the Knights Radiant Did Not Break Their Oaths
RShara replied to axehoundlover's topic in Stormlight Archive
Honor was going mad, raving to the Radiants that they would destroy the world. So he was definitely still alive, but dying. I believe the phrase you're thinking of "With Honor gone, t here is no check on their power" (I can't actually find it in the books, for some reason) was Nale referring to his killing of budding Radiants, long after the Recreance. He also says this:- 8 replies
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[OB] Maybe the Knights Radiant Did Not Break Their Oaths
RShara replied to axehoundlover's topic in Stormlight Archive
Honor was still alive at the time of the Recreance. That's how he was able to create the memory and instruct the Stormfather to show it to someone. https://wob.coppermind.net/events/76-shadows-of-self-chicago-signing/#e6174- 8 replies
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Probably want to put OB in the title and maybe make it a touch more generic. It might be generic enough now, but best to err on the safe side. See the spoiler policy at the top.
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Mmmm I would guess that they don't. Otherwise, they would probably be more valuable dead, to harvest their gemhearts, than as slaves and bridgemen.
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The definition of a Sliver is a human (sentient physical being) that holds a large part of the power of a Shard. Dalinar was able to supercharge everyone with Stormlight, signifying he holds a large part of Honor's power, therefore, he's a Sliver just like TLR was a Sliver.
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I think it's all Timbre. I mean, Timbre probably does remember what Eshonai would have wanted and is trying to encourage Venli toward that.
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It seems odd, since she talks about the humidity being bad for books. Plant life doesn't seem like it would matter in that context. So it seems odd that she'd be complaining about humidity, mention rampant plant growth, then switch back to humidity.
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I guess it's theoretically possible. But to me, it seems biologically unlikely. There aren't any signs that the Alethi have Parshendi blood, like the other races (that DO have Parshendi blood) have, other than height, which can be explained in other ways. And having a significantly sized piece of hard rock in your chest cavity sounds like it would cause some serious biological issues.
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Also, in order for a Cognitive Shadow to stick around, instead of being drawn to the Spiritual Realm, they have to have some higher Shardic influence, iirc? So Honor, Cultivation, or Odium would have had to help Eshonai persist. We know Honor didn't (since he's dead), and the Stormfather seems unlikely to have. I'm VERY doubtful that Cultivation would have. And I don't see Odium doing so, since he wouldn't be too fond of non-possessed Eshonai. It's still possible that some agency intervened to keep Eshonai's CS around, but right now, I don't see any evidence of that.
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[OB] Odium (and Dalinar) (and Honor) (and Cultivation)
RShara replied to Leyrann's topic in Stormlight Archive
We have at least 3 (fairly) reliable confirmations that Odium is Hatred. We have Frost's letter. We have the Parshendi songs, and we have Syl's description. I think these are reliable enough to confirm that Odium is Hatred. -
FYI, Brandon uses the word "zip" to describe Syl's movements a LOT.
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As Alethi are warriors, height would be a desirable attribute, as it tends to be of value during battles and dominance displays.
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The Alethi have valued height for some centuries. Over that period of time, having taller people isn't unlikely. And as Obtuse says, Syl zips into Kaladin's head sometimes. So yes, some of the higher spren of the KR DO go into their companions.
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The Fused aren't spren, though. They're Cognitive Shadows that can possess living Parshendi.
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The races that have interbred with Parshendi have obvious physical characteristics that define them, such as the Herdazian fingernails and the Horneater ability to see spren. I don't think any Alethi have been described to have any kind of Parshendi characteristics in any of the books, so it seems unlikely that they have enough Parshendi blood in them to cause a mutation such as a gemheart. Also, again, with a gem instead of a heart, there would need to be other physical changes in order to accommodate it, none of which have been indicated.
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I feel like such a drastic change in Renarin's anatomy would have more visible consequences, or changes. As we saw with Amaram, it seems to take quite a bit of work, and a lot of physical changes, in order to have a gemheart. Also, the spren only enter/leave the gemheart during a highstorm.
