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What if you slowly made some one afraid to go to the bathroom or really angry. Start small and over weeks increase the level fear or anger.

Brandon has RAFO how long a person can live if using storm light so that might be part of what your thinking of LabRat.

The Lord Ruler may have made just enough plants able to survive the ash and one may have had something like a fruit but flowers could not survive in that environment and just because Vin thought of it as fruit does not mean it was.

I wonder what the population on the Southern hemisphere was like after.

Why should they?

You would have a hard time spiking a Spren you need flowing blood to make hemalurgy work. No WoB if it has to be the victims blood though.

I can honestly say that I never thought to engender lust for inanimate objects using Allomancy bravo.

So I Just thought of this I'm sure someones talked about it before but a Lot of Allomancy could be used for petty tricks to mess with some one. So what would you do to someone? What made me think of this was having a Cadmium burner mess with a persons sleep habits. Just make the night time go away so that they never get enough sleep if you did it right you could even get the bubble edge between their clock and bed so that its harder to tell that it was done, or Just have them lose a day or two during the night. Cadmium has large potential to really mess up a persons day. So what power would you use and how would you do so remember the idea is to mess with them without hurting them physically, mentally is OK though.

That would be a lot of bendalloy like bricks of it.

The problem I see with this is we do not know enough about how the bond interacts to create powers. The Nahel bond is an attachment to a persons spirit but other than that we can not explain why a Spren dies. All we can tell is that when the owner of the bond changes his thinking to something opposed to the bond(Kaladin letting someone die, Shallan no longer speaking) the Spren breaks in some fundamental way. You can not steal the surges from the person if how I understand this is right because the surge is a benefit of the bond not a inherent trait of the users spiritweb like Allomancy or Feruchemy. So long as the recipient of the stolen bond does not think or act in a fundamentally opposite way to the Spren attached to the bond it should remain in tact. For this kind of hemalurgy your stealing the part of the Spiritweb were the bond attaches. Of course there is no way to know that if the bond is broken a shard blade will appear unless the Spren was in blade form first. Surgebinding and the ability to use Stormlight are things available to users because of a synthesis of thought between the Spren and Human. I may be confusing this so real short what I'm trying to say is no bond no surges Although maybe Hemalurgy is able to force a Spren to function the bond even with a user in opposition to them, like chaining a Spren to your soul. This I feel would only end badly on account of the telepathy inherent in the bond. Just think about how Renarin had to be for the week it took to bond his blade only it never stops EVER all day all night just pissed off Spren screaming at you forever. As for the Listeners Brandon is pretty close lipped about their history but there are hints that they have been around long before the shards arrived. I think once one of the Spren refer to them as the ancient ones. Small hints that the Gods were not always their gods. I don't think that they were limited to thinking Spren like humans are but there were some thinking Spren before the Shards if I remember correctly.

If pop ups are blocked you can't vote, you have to allow them for the page before it will work just in case anyone ran into an error like I did.

HMM interesting plan I think that yes you can totally steal the bond. However Stealing a Surgebinder's bond would almost certainly kill the spren (i.e. make spren become like a shardblade) involved. If it went directly from one user to the next spending no time outside the body and the recipient had the correct mental inclination it may live. My money is on it straight turning it into a Shardblade or just drive the person made mad a with dead screaming spren attached to their soul. I think I'm going to ask that on the ama.

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I have a few signed hard back books Way of Kings: First edition just signed. This was my first book of His I had not heard of Brandon Sanderson at the time and I happened to see the book on display. I looked at my wife and told her this book is beautiful I must have it. Words of Radiance: First edition signed personalized. Steelheart: First edition just signed Firefight: First edition just signed The Rithmatist: First edition just signed Alloy of Law: First edition just signed Emperors Soul: Just signed can't remember if it is a first edition I bought it at the Words of Radiance signing. I currently have my eye on the 6 pack of awesomeness. All of my other books are worn out paperbacks or ebooks

Forced Spren bonding using implanted gemstones that permanently changed the breed now they breed true and have gem hearts.

I don't think Hoid tracked her. If my understanding of her power is right it may not be like opening a door to the same location on the physical as the cognitive. Also Hoid is known to have knowledge of were things are happening at and that is the best answer for how Hoid found her.

There are five by the way that we have seen AonDor, Dakhor, Forgery, Bloodsealing,and ChayShan( that martial art thing) All of these use the Dor which if I can find it is a combination of Dominion's and Devotion's powers. Having in part Dominion makes sense for each one being location specific. I just happen to have this up on theoryland.

That does work well with how I think things on Sel works.

I don't think that's how it works the two are now one I believe there is only the harmony intent now

This is a Quote I found on theory land http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1038#5 This talks about Sel and how it only stuff works there http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/4290-heres-some-late-stuff/#entry67401 and this Edit added one twice And this i thought i had a diffrent one but this is good too all this leads me to the conclusion that when 2 shattered powers of a shard are mixed they change the way the shards interact with the planet to create magic somewhere in theory land there is a quote saying that what elantrians do now would not have been possible before

Wyndle you missed that one and your right pattern name was given to him so does not count even if his name does not have a y I would disqualify it on ground that it's not a name in the traditional sense.

There is WoB I believe that Odium wants to be the only shard. As for Sel the Elantrian were not created until after the shattering of Devotion and Dominion. From what I can tell Sel has one type of magic it should have three. What Elantrians do would not be possible before the shattering. shards shattered by odium: Dominion Devotion Honor one unknown shard

He could know more about them then the locals, simply knowing how the base of magic works could give him much needed insight that most would not have. It is also possible that Hoid has some way of analyzing the way the shard and the world it is on is interacting.

I guess the real question is does investing metal with an attribute change the metal so that it s resistant to acid. Remember the Lord ruler stored his you like twice a week not all the time