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Given the WoB from JordanCon, I think this is unlikely. Brandon made it sound like she's not part of the 17th so much as she works for them, on occasion. He described her as a sort of Cosmere Edward Snowden. She gives out information to people who ask, as long as she thinks they're gonna use it for a good cause/something she agrees with.

Regarding future stories, Brandon intended White Sand to be a trilogy. If the three graphic novels of Book 1 (White Sand) sell well, they'll continue in that format to cover Book 2 (initially titled Lord Mastrell) and Book 3.

Yeah, that's certainly what I got out of the scene. Mraize, like Hoid, appears to be collecting magical/Invested items from other worlds.

Yeah, LoP pretty much straight up debunks this theory.

So you think that Hoid was born a human, took his master's name, and then killed the Vessel of Adonalsium before taking that power up...and then it was Shattered by the 16? And yes, the rock is Topaz. The world Hoid is from is called Yolen, so that rock is not a reference to the world.

Unfortunately not. Hoid lived before Adonalsium was Shattered (it's what we'll see in the Dragonsteel books), and his original name was different. His master was named Hoid, and he took the name sometime later. There are some chapters of Liar of Partinel floating around online that deal with this (though, of course, that's non-canon as of now, it does line up with what Hoid says in canon books). As for the rock, it was a gemstone, not a world. I've not read the manuscript of Dragonsteel that's at the BYU library, but apparently he shows up in it under the "rock" name.

Okay, so there's a WoB on this. Cool. I'll let this lie for now, but next chance I get I'm gonna ask if the wells in the Pits were evaporating/condensing into atium.

I was there when that question was asked. That's not pertinent to this. Besides, Brandon saying he "had to get it" makes it sound like Rashek had to act to get the beads, not just find them. If they grew naturally, there would have been more than just the few that we saw. Another point of evidence in favor of the Pits being the perpendicularity is that they regenerate, the same as the Well, over time after being used. I would contend that the Well is the "natural growth" you refer to re: the Pits.

No, I'm saying that the Pits are the perpendicularity. That, based on the evidence we see in Mistborn, the liquid that would have formed a shardpool like the Well of Ascension is instead condensing into atium geodes. I am well aware that there is only one per Shard, and I am of the opinion that it does not necessarily have to be in the form of a pool. It's wherever that Investiture gets concentrated—which, in the case of Ruin, is the Pits, in the atium. I tried looking for some WoBs, just to see if he's ever said anything about Ruin having a pool, but I can't find anything on that. Until we get that WoB, this is my theory.

This is manifestly untrue. We've seen the Pits, where Ruin's body gathers as atium. This is my point. The assumption that all perpendicularities are in the form of pools is off-base.

That doesn't absolutely mean there was a shardpool. It means the Pits were a perpendicularity, and Kelsier destroyed them. We see Kelsier destroy the Pits, and he's targeting atium geodes, not some hidden pool at the bottom.

Except we know that the Pits were a perpendicularity, and we know that that's where atium was produced. The fact that Kelsier actually destroyed the perpendicularity is a big point of evidence that there wasn't a shardpool hidden at the bottom. He just used a big push of allomancy to destroy the geodes, and it wiped out the perpendicularity.

I have to think that, whether or not there's a Restaurant in the CR, it's based on an actual location in the PR. Iyatil was born there, and AFAIK people can't conceive and bear children in the CR.

The whole world changed during the Ascension. The Pits were created then, IMO, and the function of Ruin's perpendicularity changed to condense the liquid and produce atium, instead of just staying as a shardpool.

Huh, I don't remember that at all. But that was pre-Ascension, if it was Alendi, so it would have been pre-Pits. I was under the impression that the liquid that would have gone into a shardpool was condensing and turning into atium.

I think Eleventh Metal was listed as being part of it.

*grumble grumble*

I'm starting to toy with the idea that it's not a shardpool, but something more like the Pits of Hathsin. It would make more sense, I think.

Yeah, same. I wonder if they changed what's available in the preview.

Muchas gracias.

Two sides of the planet, with potentially two different Cognitive identities. Focus on sunlight/starlight/things going on in the sky... Expanse of the Broken Sky, anyone?

Wait, whoa. What? How do we know this is happening? I must have missed a preview somewhere.

Yeah, getting the Lift novella (plus the Khriss intros and the starmap*) will probably be worth the price of admission. I'm also intrigued by Hope of Elantris. I know it's available on his site, but for some dumb reason I can't make myself read it online. Maybe having it in print and actually in my hands will do the trick.

I know all we've gotten is a RAFO on whether or not Autonomy is/isn't based on the sun, but my assumption is definitely that he's directly powering sand mastery. That said, would it make any sense for his shardpool to be on Dayside? Having a standing body of liquid that had no apparent source would be a bit obvious out there, IMO.

I was the one who got the Trell WoB, at the Shadows of Self signing in Denver. He's definitely connected to Scadrial and the religions there. I personally think that Bavadin is dead right now and Trell holds Autonomy, but when I asked Brandon if Bavadin was alive as of Era 2, he got shifty and waffled a bit before giving me a RAFO.