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Macen

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  1. I know I've been inactive, but I would like to bestow MAce, the shardhammer. He always gives solid advice, and he packs quite a punch. Just remember, you have to whisper sweet nothings to him every once in a while.
  2. I've put my two cents in, and am about to leave work and have bowling tonight. I'll post a link to the vote tallies and kill tallies I made (it's a google doc) just because it won't all fit into a single post. Note that I did not take into account vote manipulation, would have taken forever to go through each post, I just took the votes from Ren's posts. Doc Link
  3. To be fair, I'm probably right behind you on the suspicion list if I was to be 100% neutral. The only thing that puts you over me was that you were the last person to vote for Hero when it was obvious that he was going to die. You are tied with me on number of people voted for that were good (mine were the same one twice, then Bort after you made good points about him). Mind you, none of this is iron clad proof, but we don't really have any iron clad proof for anyone (PK is definitely our closest to that, after PK it's mostly just little nuances here and there). If I was one of the others I'd have it as a tossup between you and I for the 2nd eliminator left. For the 3rd it's probably silver, but possibly Venture.
  4. My analysis mixed with my gut feelings tells me Shallan is Good, and seonid is *Probably* good. If I was to take that into account and run just the numbers, the bad guys are: PK>Orlok>Venture/Macen>Silver>Seonid>Shallan *EDIT* Note, I would put a tossup between Venture, silver, and myself since I think they have 1 completely inactive player (silver).
  5. So. I'm in the process of doing some Hyper-Analysis since I finally have time, and I think I've been barking up the wrong trees. I'm going to continue (i'm only up to day 7) but so far the bad guys look like Orlok and PK. I'm leaning more towards Silver also being bad, but just inactive - if not then it's Vin. My analysis has pretty much cleared Seonid and Shallan (which makes me feel like an idiot - but I was basing those suspicions off of feelings, not numbers). I will finish my analysis and post it (ren, do you mind if I put a hyperlink to a Word doc with the whole analysis, since it's like 6 or 7 pages long?). EDIT* Ok, here is the important part: Living Player List Voted For: Bad Guy Good Guy Not Dead Sheon Idris (Seonid) 2 6 0 Seavul Karlon (The Silver Dragon) 0 0 0 Mace (Macen) Shard Bearer 0 3 1 Nivina Odict (Shallan) 2 3 1 Orlok (OrlokTsubodai) 1 3 0 Eradin (Paranoid King) 1 4 2 Vin Elendel (Venture Mistborn) 0 2 1 Living Player List Voted For By: Bad Guy Good Guy Not Dead Sheon Idris (Seonid) 0 0 1 Seavul Karlon (The Silver Dragon) 0 0 0 Mace (Macen) Shard Bearer 0 1 0 Nivina Odict (Shallan) 0 0 2 Orlok (OrlokTsubodai) 0 0 0 Eradin (Paranoid King) 0 2 0 Vin Elendel (Venture Mistborn) 0 3 1 And I think this is important too: Wannan (7): Nivina Odict, Sheon Idris, Efrihm, Mortago, Eradin,Klanal, Orlok (Re-ordered into vote order) *EDIT 2* Note, Both Seonid and Shallan had voted for Hero in previous cycles. That's why they got two notches.
  6. Orlok, I can see your points and as I listed above bort is #2 on my list. I will retract my vote on shallan and put it on bort. I will switch it back if we don't have enough votes by lynch time. We can't afford a no lynch. *edit* I'm on my cellphone driving back from Denver and I hate typing long things on my phone. That's why this post is so short, so I'm putting this in blue so you guys know not to read too much into that.
  7. I asked Ren and he said a corrupted guardsman would show up as an assassin. So, I'm guessing the assassin is a conspirator. The reason for this is that I think they were given a guardsman and all of a sudden we started getting assassinations again.
  8. Again the two people voicing suspicion on shallan are attacked. I am a bright lord who had shard plate. I'm guessing I'm the last bright lord since my vote went through for shallan. *edit* since I won't be on much tomorrow (if at all) my suspicions are shallan>bort>venture>pk>seonid. After looking at some stuff I think seonid is probably good but being tricked by people who aren't.
  9. I unfortunately won't be on much tomorrow. I'm driving to Denver when I get off work tonight (7 hour drive) because my GF's Cousin is a Huge Buff's fan and we are going to the CU/CSU Game tomorrow. I might be able to check periodically on my phone, but won't be able to do long posts. *EDIT* To back up Feligion on Bort - I do find it odd that his Shardplate was destroyed and he is still alive? I don't recall if it was from a lynch or an Eliminator attack and don't have time to hunt that down though.
  10. I think that Shallan and Seonid are eliminators personally (or at least one of the two). I will be voting for Shallan as well once I can. *EDIT* I have been active near every cycle (some of the earlier ones I wasn't). Also it seems to me that anyone who voices suspicion of Seonid / Shallan ends up dead. Lastly, Seonid has lead the voting in the last two cycles (and is about to lead it onto me in a 3rd cycle). If I get lynched that is 3 days in a row where Villages have been lynched when the odds of hitting a Eliminator have been 3/11 3/10 and 3/9 (assuming there are only 3 eliminators left). The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why Seonid tried to rouse the inactives back to playing when the Eliminators were on a role. This is the reason I am putting Shallan above Seonid on my list. Seonid stated he fully trusts Shallan - so that means he would weigh anything Shallan said pretty highly. I think Shallan has been pushing Seonid towards voting for certain people - and having Seonid be the voice so he gets blamed. That is just a theory, they may also both be Eliminiators and they wanted to make their win more sweety by rousing inactives.
  11. My apologies, I assumed you stating "it seems that everyone has decided that no discussion is really needed." Was you calling everyone out for not discussing and instead just going along with the vote. Combine that with the fact that you are throwing out random votes for apparently no reason (at least none that you are giving), it seemed a bit hypocritical. I just find comments like that a big ironic when the person making said comments is also not contributing to the discussing. Seems like a false face to me in a lot of situations, almost like the person in question is trying to seem like they are helping get the conversation started while not actually helping discuss anything.
  12. I have voted most days, I just never got caught up on this game - sorry! I would agree, and say that we need everyone possible voting so that maybe we get something done. I just don't have any suggestions on who to vote for. I'll go back and look at my messages with Clanky and Kipper and see who they had voiced suspicion in (that are still alive). *EDIT* I went back through my chats and it appears I had mentioned Shallan as being suspicious in the past, but I had no concrete evidence and Clanky didn't argue with it as a suspicion, so I'm going to go with that.
  13. You bring up a valid point stink, but I don't think that quite meets what the fear of a coalition means. In any game there are going to be those without as much information (My last two games before this one I had very little information), but at least WIlson is explaining her reasoning on why she wants certain things, or why she doesn't. The Coalition that is so feared is one who dictates and doesn't explain. Giving no information for the players lacking to analyze and in general just making the game boring. Personally, this is one of the reasons I find games with out PM's more fun, I just wish we could figure out a good way to balance it with the Eliminiators ability to communicate via doc. All in all, this game has been played a bit more behind the scenes than some games, but I also think that has to do a lot with people not voting. Each voting cycle has been won with very few votes, which seems a bit silly to me.
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