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  1. Tamriel Wolfsbaine
    Thinking of this concept I think it makes for a pretty nifty counter to compounders through A chromium or nicrosil. Taking Miles as an example if he stores x amount of health and then were to burn it in hopes of storing it all he would have to store so much at once. Imagine if he were to have gotten leeched while he was actively storing mass amounts of health trying to compound up. You could catch him for a fraction of a second while he is still storing before he realizes his metal he was burning is gone and then straight up just off himself trying to store that compounded health. Same for a strength compounder where they get leeched mid storage and turn to stinking goo with not even enough strength to breathe or get a heartbeat. A brass compounder that gets leeched mid storage could find themselves dead as an ice cube nearly instantaneously or if nicrosil were to be used against them it could end up burning all of their compounded heat before they could change to store all of it resulting in total meltdown of everything around or on them. I wonder how it would work for other metals... duralumin would instantly lose all connection to everything... perhaps even the metalminds they once had. A nicrosil enhanced burn of an iron compounder could be world ending depending on how much they had stored.... imagine trying to stop a compounder and creating a mini blackhole. An allomantic cube charged with nicrosil or chromium.
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    I sort of imagine zinc compounding to be the limitless combo. That mental speed of allowing all of the things to happen at once. Definately think a kandra with the blessing of presence is a good showing depending on how much faster they are able to think compared to other kandra. It is kind of hard to think past that as far as what it actually can do because we don't really get a show on screen of what a faster higher level of cognition can do. Looking at how Wax and Wayne are able to have entire conversations with each other in a speed bubble and then let it down having the advantage of being able to talk through the issues before hand or how Wax was able to think his way out of an explosion as Waynes speed bubble again bought him time. I picture F zinc and H copper to do the same thing to different degrees. From what I have gathered it is that intelligence and mental speed can only really help you with things you know about. In limitless he was able to learn and pick things up much faster also, which I believe would be applicable here as well but he still didn't instantly turn into a master in all subjects. Would H copper offer a way around needing to really learn the things for yourself? If you spiked a medical doctor then a physicist and then some musical genius would you in part take their knowledge in those subjects as well? I feel like the learning aspect is what holds F zinc back in that you could store speed but would have to learn slower to be able to apply what you learned quickly later on in the future. Compounding definately opens it up to be super OP.
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    I definately think that the unsealed minds should allow for compounding. We know it offers some stupid power levels for people but I think the key is that they need to know that it is possible and how to do it. The vast majority of the population would hold the bands like Wayne did and have no idea what they were holding or heck even Wax with the coppermind. Intent plays such a role in it all that gaining the knowledge of how only puts a gigantic target on your back. If it wasn't for Miles being a gold compounder specifically I don't think we would have seen just how imbalanced it was. Wax dang near killed Miles more times in Alloy of Law than he killed other people in other books combined. The fight on the train he shot him in the face multiple times. This isn't to say that other compounders aren't just as dangerous but I think Miles had the most benefit of any compounder as far as being an open compounder than we will see. You don't just flaunt that you are the flash and not expect factions from all over the city be setting traps for you. There are only 2 compounders that society should be truly afraid of as far as I can think, iron and brass. Both of which could end and entire city/planet with a single burst of power. Both could easily be dealt with given a head shot or other instant kill. Steel / steel is spooky but the minute the world knows you have that power you are going to be taken out. Compounding becoming more available will actually only boost the rate of Scadrials technology advancements and most likely there will be less antagonists anyways. Firearms are already a pretty big equalizer against the metallic arts and the more people with access to the metallic arts there are the better everyone will fare. Organizations built around breeding programs and spiking powers from people will eventually fade. I do fear the potential "Civil War" route of legislating power in Scadrial. All it really takes is one person with the right powers and the wrong mental illness and the planet could be destroyed.
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    @Trusk'our What do you suppose that means for a kandra if faced against a shardblade. Would a strike to any portion of their brain be enough to insta kill them or do you think they would simply lose that portion of their body? Realistically I feel like you would have to whittle a kandra down bit by bit if their brain is distributed throughout their body but it could well be the opposite and a shardblade against a kandra is more powerful that against a normal human with a single centralized nervous system. I loved the idea of some world hopping kandra getting ahold of enough aluminum to build a truebody out of it and hide their more vital organs under an aluminum ribcage. The look on a shard bearers face when their weapon starts to fuzz and then suddenly hits solid aluminum would be fun.
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    I believe that kandra can manipulate their bind points and could likely shift their spikes to a spot that is much easier to conceal in aluminum. Would it need to be completely encapsulated though? If a kandra took an aluminum sphere and cut it in half could they then wrap it around their spikes and hold it in their body? How much tissue would have to be exposed to keep it from ruining their sentience? If they have enough spike not guarded by aluminum to stay sentient would that be more than enough spike left for a shard to take hold of?
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    Gotta agree that I don't mean to derail and divert from the question. It is one that I have thought about a ton. Kandra are my favorite monster in any universe and I so badly want them to be liberated. (Which is ironic because I am the brotherhood of steel through and through in fallout). I think the edited idea could really work well especially if it were combined with other powers to make a factory of spikes. Imagine a world where you have someone with access to gold compounding who can then fill a medallion and grant that massive chunk of healing to an individual. Offer substantial enough payment and they may even allow you to spike them with duralumin and then repeatedly with other spikes as they continue healing. I am sure it would jack up a persons spirit web but what is the limit to hemalurgic mind control? Add in an extraordinarily powerful rioter or soother (perhaps they themselves have respiked their own abilities to themselves)? Would they be able to then take control of another spike factory and force them to continue to tap that gold until said medallion ran out? I am sure I confuse terms in all of that but hemalurgy combined with gold compounding and medallion tech could do some serious damage. Does gold healing only heal portions of the spiritweb that don't currently have a spike in them? Would you have to respike with duralumin every time you try to heal the person? Could a powerful enough duralumin compounder use their stored connection to convince a person to willingly tap a medallion to heal themselves enough to get a few spikes if it could? Not that any of this would ever liberate Kandra. I wanted to think that a blessing of stability combined with an ability to be a coppercloud might protect them from ruins influence but with Harmony at the reigns I don't there is anything in Scadrials power that could negate it hence I jump back to old magic via the nightwatcher.
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    Yeah I remember seeing something about how Miles could have become a gold compounding spikes factory. What a waste. Not that anyone on Scadrial should be excited about having a ton of Miles running around. I believe it was in part his inability to die that eventually pushed him over the edge. As for the bands... this is why I believe F-nicrosil to be the single greatest power on all of scadrial. With medallion tech and hemalurgy having the base ability to simply store investiture would allow you, with just an A-nicrosil medallion or spike, would allow you go around collecting a single medallion or faint spike at a time and eventually be able to infinitely compound out bands. We know burning metals doesn't happen at once but theoretically you could pair duralumin to burn down the bands of mourning and store up 10 other sets of bands all while tapping a bit of gold or burning some aluminum afterwords to heal the damage that burning that much metal has to be doing to your spiritweb. To return to the point of this thread as well, you could get access to F nicrosil through any other means than hemalurgy and then once you have collected enough other powers whether through spikes or through medallion tech start yourself a compounded set of powers that you take from spikes then remove the spikes and continue to simply compound out your own set of bands.
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    Is it what is in your body though? Or is it only how the world itself interacts with your body? How does that compare to connection? There is no measurable connection in the physical. Weight could be a form of connection and how the world is interacting with yourself changing without physically changing yourself. Don't get me wrong. I love the idea of tapping iron and turning into John Carter of Mars but unfortunately that isn't what we see in the books plus it would make F pewter totally pointless.
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    I am definately interested in more info on how this would work when you are able. Is it just spiking yourself to remove that specific portion of the soul that has the boon attached or curse attached? Would that be a nicrosil spike or what?
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    That said, I think unsealed metalminds will become the military tech of the future. Not only do you eliminate the risk of handing over an army of hemalurgically spiked minions to a shard or extrapowerful soother/rioter, but you also put a limit on the amount of power that a single soldier (or citizen if allowed) has access to. From a government or big cooperate viewpoint anything that just gives a person unlimited access to power is spooky. Gun control doesn't have to be as big of a topic if you have a pandemic to limit ammo production though. Medallion tech is also going to be a lot less frowned upon from a moral standpoint than hemalurgy. Back to the topic it would be awesome to have a way to stabilize your spiritweb with spikes but that almost defeats the purpose of them. Oldmagic as a plot driving option (and curses never seem to really deter a character who needs help with their plot line) does seem the only truly viable option but that also requires some world hopping and hoping your curse doesn't totally wreck you. I would hate to see medallion tech completely erase hemalurgy and frankly when evil people have a chance to get even a slight edge over the rest of the population they will still take it.
  11. Tamriel Wolfsbaine
    Thanks for the WOB there. I was questioning that when picturing allomancy as a bunch of water tanks with different sized spigots and locks. Unlocking the ability to access the water was the same as snapping and then whatever you snap into is what locks get broken. Then the size of the spigot determined how fast you could release your investiture. I always assumed that a stronger mistborn would burn through metals faster because the spigot was larger. That said I don't remember reading any difference with Wax and the bands either. I would assume when his steel sight and pushes got enhanced to the point of lighting the world up as every metallic atom was seen that he would move through his reserves significantly faster. Perhaps this is more due to nicrosil compounding effects on steel allomancy but I would have still imagined his metal reserves would have been wiped much faster if strength was the connection rate of burn.
  12. Tamriel Wolfsbaine
    I like the CR representation theory. I always figured if your body changed to make up for your huge weight it would stand that your strength would have increased as well. If I can do 50 push-ups at 200lbs and my bench is 280 then I should be able to do 50 push-ups at 2000 lbs and my bench ought to increase along with that.... But while the magic allows you to interact with the world as if you were the same weight as you always have been it is only a bubble of CR reality but your body is working differently in the world around it. (Storing mid jump speeds you up and tapping slows you down but cognitively your self knows that bullets are still inherently bad for your health when they pass through you.)
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    Copper and bronze would definately be the top of my list for this. Iron or steel would probably allow you to see the world closer to what the bands allowed. Maybe not every atom but I think they would allow you to see a lot more than standard iron or steel sight. Pewter does burn fast but I think one of the more overlooked parts of pewter is becoming more dense.... if thats what you want to call it. Just being more durable for a second even if it burns faster could pay off big time for a pewter burner. I also imagine that a slower burn would give you more benefit. I can't remember if it specifically noted Elend burning through pewter faster than Vin due to his stronger powers. Maybe the rate at which you burn wouldn't be effected enough to make it a worry. Plus if you had access to A aluminum or a chromium buddy you could always ingest a lot more than you should need and then have it purged before causing unwanted effects.
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    I would question if A aluminum could help with savantism levels of burning. Then again if you were to clean your spiritweb would it allow you to keep any benefits given to you via the hemalurgy itself? Seems risky for a kandra to try and repair those holes since they only have sentience because of those spikes. Maybe it could come in the form of a boon from old magic? Freedom of sorts. Though the curse likely would not make it worth it.
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    I have to go with F chromium. I feel like A electrum would only be somewhat useful if you had some Feruchemical zinc to aid it. Chromium you just have to trust your gut. I think electrum would more likely hinder my ability to make decisions where as chromium would bless actions that I do take.
  16. Tamriel Wolfsbaine
    Truth be told I am not convinced that Harmony isn't a villain himself. I know absorbing two shards would 100% warp a persons brain. Its just a bummer when he first spoke to Wax I was so excited to hear Sazed again. But then the more I continued into era 2 the more I realized that harmony is a cold hearted shard that uses who he wants when he wants... in the case of Wax I would say even more cold than just an immortal not caring about humans. The whole bleeder incident was just messed up beyond words. He chooses to turn the kolos into a race capable of breeding and removes their need to have spikes and then chooses to keep the kandra the way they are and push half of them into this corner where dissolving themselves is their only chance at being agents unto themselves. Heck I am still not convinced that Paalm didn't off herself and say her last words to Wax on her own accord. For all we know Harmony made her say and do every action she made. Hemalurgy terrifies me for the mind control aspect alone. Scary power baked into it. Does the total number of spikes make a difference or is it the power in the spikes? Is a creature with more susceptible to control with 1 big spike or that same spike broken up into 20 smaller pieces?
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    I would imagine the bands also offer more than enough one hit kill potential. Thousands of lbs tapped and a fist flying at the speed of sound should make short work of anything in front of it. Add in the chance to instantly heal any bones breaking under the stress as well. If plate is able to be broken by a hammer swing then surely bands powered A-pewter flare combined with steel speed and a boatload of iron weight could pull off an Elijah Mikaelson and reach right through shardplate to pull out the heart of whoever was unfortunate enough to be behind whatever armor it may be. This thought isnt saying plate isn't busted or that a shardblade isn't busted. Just the potential power that the metallic arts hold and the fact that aside from the coolness factor of a shardblade making them through metalminds isn't just extremely difficult but the power possibilities medallions open up are above even a mystical sword. (Again opinion piece)
  18. Tamriel Wolfsbaine
    All well heard. Shardblades are sweet and it would be awesome to be able to make one through the metallic arts but we ought to let roshar keep their cool swords. Scadrial tech seems to be on the up and up even in the magical sphere. Any number of nicrosil ferrings or mistings with access to a nicrosil medallion with the opposite power to give them the ability to compound it could potentially be bands of mourning factories. Not that we would likely ever see any that jammed packed... but the bands are, in my opinion, hands down the most broken weapon in the cosmere. A magical sword is dope and on screen it is one of the more fun things to see and read about. However, that moment when time stands still and the world absolutely lights up from every metallic atom in bodies or in the mountains around you as the power from the bands gets tapped is just too epic. We know how busted compounded speed and health are. Even just having a crammed pack steel medallion and gold medallion on a few soldiers is terrifying.
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    I really don't know enough about how shardblades work to get too far into it. But if you had a person who was capable of compounding even a cheaper metal and then craft their "blade" from it with the way compounding works wouldn't that open up an avenue to eventually generate enough investiture in the metalmind weapon to get close? If you can compound 10x what you burn wouldn't a compounder of a more than accessible metal be able to channel so much investiture to make a pseudo shardblade? With access to medallion tech pretty much any metalborn could become a compounder and infinitely fill a weapon shaped metal mind. Compound enough and carry around shavings of jam packed metal mind to compound back into your blade. How much investiture can a single metal mind hold? A ring that is "full" should be able to be swallowed and used to make 10 rings just as full with compounding. But how much can it hold? I assume you would need to fill a metal mind to the point where it dang near is leaking investiture before it comes close to a shardblade. Then again metalminds hold onto investiture a lot better than other vessels. We just haven't seen the limits to how much you can fill them or what happens when they get full.
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    This is a thing that must happen.
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    I definately love the idea of even seeing cadmium charged into a cube in a battle with a groups. You could drop a line of bubbles that not only bring your enemies to an absolute stand still but also make them all catch a momentary wave of extreme nausea and dizziness. Then have steel pushers toss out handfuls of any objects they can get their hands on and pepper it all into the bubbles. Absolutely devastating to an enemy formation... shoot even a single enemy against A-Cadmium paired with a cube and a ranged option for a weapon. Pair it with F-Nicrosil and potentially supercharge your allomantic time slowing grenade to a time stopping grenade. Enough metal objects flying through a speed bubble and you are sure to hit with one or two. For a group of enemy foot soldiers I also love the idea of a pile up of puking tripping and falling allies as you are charging forward and the people in front of you suddenly stop in their tracks. Imagine you start impaling all of your buddies lined up in front of you because mid charge they just stop... before you realize what's happening you have spears and swords from behind you hitting you too... I know this isn't a picture that is great for the gun toting scadrial population but it seems a totally viable tactic if it ever came to war with other planets who still rely on melee combat primarily.
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    I have wondered how a lerasium spike would work. If it does steal all abilities from the person would it steal any hemalurgically gained abilities as well? Spiking a fullborn with one would be nice but could you make a fullborn from what is currently on scadrial via spikes and then use one spike to steal all of the abilities of that created fullborn? I feel like medallion tech and a few nicrosil metal born would offer a much more simple path towards potential fullborn power. Save the spikes for off world or creating constructs specifically. I am also a bit curious as to what all Marsh would need to be able to use it. Having access to a surge via an atium spike wouldn't necessarily grant that same person the ability to hold and use stormlight automatically. Would a nicrosil spike be needed to access the investiture so that you could use the surge? Or if you spike out one surge does it automatically open up the option to use stormlight? Can the ability to breath and use stormlight be spiked without taking the ability to use a surge? For that matter could a person capable of storing breath through feruchemy then store stormlight in their other metalmind and access it via the stolen investiture or would it only be accessed via a stolen surge?
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    The effects of people passing through bubbles and the bubbles bursting are actually my favorite part of bendalloy and cadmium. Legit I think it would be a pretty funny day to set up a bubble as someone is about to pass through it without realizing it is up. I would love to see this aspect of these metals be a focal point in a conflict one day in text.
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    I was just picturing a F-pewter A-bendalloy using the rest of his strength to throw an enemy out through his bubble and then immediately start storing up strength again and the enemy has to slowly fly/fall regain their footing and come back through the bubble to keep fighting.
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    An A-bronze and F-tin would make the perfect lookout/seeker for a group. You could store your bronze while your coppermind buddy is around and then tap it to continue seeking even when said coppermind is not around.
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