JNV

I mean I dont if you see my post I lay out why its probably not a bus cause if so Stick and Thaidakar have to be elim or the elimsm are playing kinda weird No Archer sussed Araris for the Striker vote reasoning (see below) Araris first post says this Araris second post says this But as a lot of people pointed out the reasoning for striker was flaky cause ltos of people ahd more names in their good lists and lots of people wanted early fang so there can be some hmm in that Honestly this post was what fueld the Araris suspicion beyond just Stick wanting to live it was real weird they say "oh theyre basically the same" while moving which could imply connection Very disengaged in thread weird voting noncommital reasons not voting on their suspicions and Matrim said something about weird PM interaction TJs reasoning for Stick vote was real weird imo but not sure. I think someone mentioned aggression but I dont think theyre correct Its not paraphrased see here Again I dont but I think people dont trust that they are smart cookies which is honestly fair but pepole are very smart cookies Hi hi friendo good to see you I think youre offline now but if you want to talk Ill be on for a bit

When Kai returned from their wandering (to hide from the past that could never be escaped), they found death waiting at the door. Water. Of all possible deaths, it had to be water. Memories like shards of glass flashed through their mind briefly, but they continued onwards. ("You were always my favourite sibling," their sister said as she pushed them out of the boat.) Kai had not lived in Helgen for very long, but they knew of Alain Stern. Helgen born and raised, well-established in the community, the perfect gentleman. Polite to the bitter end, they'd heard. They'd met him once, a passing on the road one late night. He'd tipped his hat, and they'd scurried by, running from their sins. What was he doing on that dark, moonless night? How many spirits haunted his path? ("In my defense," their sister said, "you weren't supposed to live.") Hi Im back hopefully wont be gone for all day again but who knows honesntly So araris was evil. Cool. I guess no fangs for us. Good work the sudden surge at th end there is kinda wierd honestly Ill look at that in a minute but first I dont really think all the darkfriends would say they agree on the fang stuff easy distancing you know so let me just take a peek at the tallies on that opinion Fang C1. Striker, Bort, Stick Fang C2-3. Matrim, TJ, Illwei, xinoep, Araris Fang later. Orlok (? didnt really give a time frame but strong againt C1) Hmm I guess Im shading Striker Bort Orlok but then again I really liked Orloks posts and opinions so maybe no shade for Orlok reconsider later no need to lock opinions Votes last time Matrim votes JNV TJ votes Stick for asking questions Hmm Is this a Stick thing for you? cause isnt asking questions a normal thing for either sied? Orlok votes Stick for shading good ting Araris votes Matrim for different Fang opinion Archer votes Bort for somthing they didnt say So I think Archer was reading too much into implications of what Bort said instead of thinking about what Bort acctually said Bit good for this cause evil is careful Stick votes xinoehp for opinon difference honestly I agreed with xinoehp here fang shouldnt be end all be all or somethings wrong Seems a bit opportunistic bu tthat might be cause I disagree Striker votes Bort Hmm Bort votes Amanuensis xinoehp votes Stick because not Bort Matrim votes Thaidakar for being weird in PMs and thread hmm I can see it honestly Thaidakar votes Stick hmm but kinda consistant with what Ive seen from them in past games Striker votes xinoeph for 'gut' Araris votes Sttriker for "too much good" This would be hmm but he's confirmed so... Better for Striker tho Striker votes Araris for bad argument Stick votes Thaidakar to live Bort votes Thaidakar casue Stick felt good xinoep votes Thaidakar because also Stick felt good Stick votes Araris Ok this feels so wrong on like every level they were safe and fine and suddenly switch like what But I think they thought it was tied? Cause xinoehp switchedd quick before thta so But hmmmm But also yeah probaby not evil with how it was going unless literally everyone being voted on was evil at first which... nah But... just... hmmmmmmm Archer votes Araris for using argument thats hmm Matrim votes Araris Orlok retracts Stick for nice reads Ok so based on what eople siad the fang wouldnt have gone off last time so bussing Araris in a village Stick world makes no sense so either Stick and Thaidakar are evil (incredibly unlikely unlikely) or the people on Araris are village besides I liked their arguments so prob latter Thaidakar still seems hmm to me but i dont really know Goodish - Matrim Archer Striker Stick Badish - TJ (I hmmed them earlier cause they seemed to be reaching a bit for the Stick vote) Thaidakar (honestly I just always read thme bad I think the way they play just hits all of the points for me dont really know why) Also why no one PM I cry now sadness maybe I reach out instead hmm

Hi hi hi Id like to play as Eshena

Kai knew better than most that you can’t outrun the past. You carry it with you, buried in your blood and bone, and there is no outrunning the flesh that sends you forth. It lingers. It lingers in dreams so sharp they could be knives in the dark, in sparks of pain in old wounds long since faded, in instinctual recoiling from light on metal. It lingers in the buried self that is abandoned but never forgotten. Kai knew the past, the oldest of friends, but they still ran. There was a graveyard once, filled with empty coffins slowly filling up, and they ran because there was nothing more they could do. They ran because there was nothing left. They ran because if they hadn’t, the guilt would have eaten them alive. They still regretted it. Kai still ran, still fled the past that could not be escaped. They couldn’t stop. Moving from town to town, staying for days or weeks before slipping away with nothing to show for it but less coin. The family had probably stopped searching for them by now, but they still ran. They were a coward, and they knew it, but they still couldn’t stop. The Wheel turns, and past becomes present, and sometimes, you can’t keep running. Kai woke up to see the dream made manifest. Hi by the way I wont be on tomorrow I have an all day thing sorry bout that Using the Fang this cycle is basically the same as voting out an elim turn one and doesnt really give it time to mature. The fang is like fruit it ripens then rots so give it time to ripe na bit but also keep in mind the elims choose the target so theyve probbaly set up distance schemes already and no matter what the info wont be that enlightening cause they cherrypick it From the rule clarifications in the main thread So theres no chance of failure. Elims probably just pick no extra lifer to die then On the multi elder thought (sorry lost the quote box somewhere) if the game is well balanced it shouldnt relaly matter if the fang can be done for winning purposes and besides the fang is when we're doomed in the "oh sweet lord we know nothing aaah" sort of category and if we just catch an elim the mechanic is locked anyway so sure maybe multi elder but and honestly probably multi elder just cause I think maybe Kasimir would want the mechanic to happen (cause its really cool by the way) but it shouldnt be assumed just because elder death means no fang. Arent we good enough to find elims without putting teeth on doors? Hopefully at least or finding elims after the fang will be hard. Honestly dont know where Im going with this thought but basically we dont need the fang and we dont need the elder theres some extra lives so we will be just fine probably hopefully maybe Its not lik the fang is bad though dont get me wrong its just that its extraneous and maybe a bit helfpul in the beginning but not utlimately the end all be all I support c2 or C3 fang cause if we use it now and we catch an elim then it wont happen and if we dont and it does go off theres just no info happening there but honestly based on the thread thoughts we wont have a majority on that Oh by the way pls PM I like PMs but startig them feels scary for some reason

Hi hi Ive never read wheel of time sad but I want to play and I kinda want to do that thing I saw Striker do where it's all RP kinda but also agian never read wot so hmm for now character as... Kai? Maybe? Does that seem like a wheel of time name? Kai for now let me research wheel of time names

Hi hi hi wow great job Kasimir that was cool I like your words very nice good job spies fancy footwork there I trust long words too much good note for the future thanks Thanks to everyone for being great and thanks to Lotus for running the game and wow Just... wow (Also there were like two toher aftermath things and that kinda confused me for a hot second how does that happen)

Nonvoters are The Unknonw Aon Ex[erience Mailliw Bort Orlok. Orlok said they have irl stuff so no hmms there. I dont remember why bort is trusted but Ill look into it oine sec. K so different from elim behavior wasn't online for the bus ok sounds good might peek back later. The Unknown Aon has been hmm a bit so if theyre evil more likely village Ashbringer cause the vote. I dont remember Experience at all which is a bit hm in and of itself but Ill look into it one sec. Ok yeah the Ashbringer vote in C1 looks real bad but also if Experience is evil it implies less bus and more "oh no were doomed" from the elimsso maybe not or did they not expect the Striker vote to actually go through but then wheres the other elim/s only nonvoter was Archer so if not bus then scattered side vote but that doesnt relaly make sense so maybe Experience not evil. Mailliw seemed really apathetic bout the STriker vote andf hoenstly Im not really sure either way so just very light hm maybe even just hn Ok so Iread the back and forth and I dont really think the initial Illwei post was hmm but Strikers response to your disagreement was kinda hmm disagreement then immediate backtracking under pressure seems invested in not defending I could see it if I squint maybe but also oculdj ust be elim Striker trying not to get into fights instead of elim Striker trying not to be tied to elim Illwei But compare to The Unknown Aon disagremeent where Striker said it was jsut their opinon on opposition could be reading sus vs reading trust could be Illwei argument had more evidence but hmm The Unknown Aon Illwei not the same alignment? Id prefer voting The Unknown Aon over Illwei but i dont know why so Ill look into that real quick The Unknown Aon hmm stuff Retaliation vote I just dont like these in general and also this is hmmm whne considering how Archer wasnt even guaranteed votin Bad Illwei vibe no reason Then not actually retaliation vote? "it was a joke" that wasnt really obvcious? Hmmm The fact that this is all C1 stuff makes me go hmm at my suspicion and honestly I always read The Unkonw Aon kind of weird so maybe not but still its kinda hmm Illwei hmm stuff Honestly Im not coming up with stuff and this might be cause I agree with them on a lot of things like Archer and the vote shenanigan bad time but like... I just dont really think theyre evil! I kinda like them. Thats probably a bad sign all things considered I sitll dont like Ashbringer or Archer honestly but with an extra day in the cycle I think Ill just read through the game a few times so I can try to figure stuff out itll probalby confuse me more honestly but oh well Ummmmmm... what? This is my first post of the cycle and I hvaent said anything about voting for Illwei last cycle I dont think so where is this coming from Oh and about all the votes on me I kinda feel like theres nothing to defend cause the votes seem based on actions and how they could be interpreted rather than things Ive said and I cant relaly argue against what might be true because sure everything might be true so Ill see you in the credits I guess I dont know whhat my flip will help you with but we arent in the doom cycle and we arent pressed for evil raeds I cna see evil Ashbringer in a world with a three person team and inactive third guy cause then its basiclaly solo Ashbringer at this point I have to go somewhere right now might not be back for a few hours have fun bye

So I wrote like all of this post last night before I fell asleep at my computer and then went to bed for real so someo f this mgiht ahgve been talked about already I voted Archer about when I said I did in thread at like 1336 my time which I think is pacific Votes people said they were doing if I missed anything let me know a lot of people didnt use red and the bold on my computer barely People who mentioned Striker in bold the first time Ashbringer says maybe a poke on Devotary Archers says pool of Kasimir, The Unknown Aon, Matrim Kasimir votes Archer for weird strategy Matrim says maybe a poke on Mailliw Amanuensis votes Thaidakar for inactivity and also the pun I think? JNV (thats me!) votes Archer for weird logic Illwei votes Matrim for weak village read Amanuensis votes Striker for a long list of reasons Striker votes Archer cause they "forgot" Kasimir votes JNV asking for thoughts Matrim votes Striker for misrepreseting Amanuensis says pool of Thaidakar, Striker, Illwei Ashbringer maybe votes Striker for being confusing Amanuensis changse pool to Striker Illwie but basicaly deinitely Striker cause inactive Thaidakar Mtarim says voting Striker but pool also has Ashbringer Archer Devotary votes Striker for caring about opinions Amanuensis changes pool to Archer Striker cause thread discussion meant not evil or something Im not really sure Illwei joke fake votes Amanuensis Amanuensis joke fake votes Amanuensis Orlok says pool of Archer striker Actual votes Bort mentioned earlier suspicion on page 3 Illwei mentioned Strikers post felt off on page 3 Orlok said will vote one of Striker archer bottom of page 5 and I know they said they were busy but timing wise this is hmm espeically since they dont mention much reasoning Ok thinking there is a bus there has to be a turning point somewhere but also there could be people who mentiond suspicion of Striker earlier too and hid the vote but there has to be a point of no return arc I think at around Strikers "please vote Archer" post they assumed they were doomed so the turning point is before that and Amanuensis was the first blow so definitely after that The striker narrative goes something like this The reads list Amanuensis critizies and votes Striker responds Amanuensis criticizes again Kasimir criticizes minorly (they said they downplayedd their suspicion) Matrim criticizes and votes A bit of silence then Ashbringer pseudovotes Striker More Striker Amanuensis back and forth Devotary vote The "oh no Im doomed" bit The ones that have suspicious timing are Ashbringer (really this is because I didnt get why you did that but its almost midnight here and Im really tired so if I missed something obvious just let me know) (ok coming back in the morning and I still dont get why you did this so...) and Devotary (honestly this is less hmm but everything is hmm after a certain time) And then there's Archer who didnt even vote despite the whole big plan which is also hmm Going off Strikers read list and the weird reads that dont really seem to logically follow Thaidakar seems worse Archer seems better And Striker voted Ashbringer which in a bus world seems hmm Ok away from the Striker bit for a while The Unknown Aon didnt mention any vote earlier (unless I missed it let me know) which is hmm and Thaidakar didnt' mention either so also hmm and combined with earlier hmm means proper sus (Oh by the way @Amanuensis Ive seen "executive fire drill" used sometimes to mean similar to "Chinese fire drill" cause executives dont do much) (Oh and I saw this a few times but my pronouns are they/them!) Ok the now bit so summery of above order of sus descending Ashbinger Thaidakar Archer and honestly less Archer mostly just residual from last bit Looking at Ashbringer's posts Maybe vote Devotary Objects random voting Still objects random voting but proposes what is similar in execution of obfuscate but two and not random In practice the same caues peopple odnt really vote randomly I dont think Old random vote game basiclaly vanilal Nothing Refernce to old game Likes anon votes hates lying Kind of skimmed Archer Hmm Honestly a bi better cause less careful or could be intentionally starting argument but maybe just hm Votes Archer because associated? Mentions Thaidakar for hush and The Unknown Aon for agreement lpus vote Hmm Were they erally? I dont see it Seems hyperfocusd on ties to Archer I dont think they were tied that much until ths post which is very hmm More focuso n ties sepcially how other peoplr are doing it hmmm Then a randm vote on Striker hmmmm Responses Wants Amanuensis to live Not really anything Might not vote Hmmm Btu then did on someone for no reason hmmmmm Nothing A lot of hmms there and some very long hmms at that so... (by the way the number of ms in the hmm is how suspicious the thing is with hmm as defualt "huh thats weird" hm as "could go either way") And then today they said something about how they are playing like an elim which is so hmmmmmmmm I dont even have enough ms lampshading much Im not going to factor in the Thaidakar two accounts thing cause Im not informed on that but I do have a rpoblem with not suspectinv inactives ause thye dont relaly exist enough to tell so I could go Thaidakar if someone wants to make good points also Ill reread Amanuensis's posts to see if I msised some key detail or something but for now Ashbringer

Ok let me just dissect your plan real quick 1 requires everyone to actually do this and also inactives and also why wold anyone do this and also I dont think ties kill all so this doesnt really create any pressure anyways 2... Isnt this what people do anyway? You say who you are suspicious of and why and who you are voting beause most suspicious 3 is also just what people do except less info so less dialogue and isnt most of the info from the vote gotten by reactions to votes and stuff? When Im in a pool of "oh I might vote on this person" I feel no pressure at all and I dont understand why someone would so maybe thats why Im really really against this plan cause I dont see people feelin threatened in this situation 4. Thats just how people vote. Same point as 2. We say who is suspicious and pick one and hiding who we actually find suspicious just hurts our chances later at clear communication cause everything not founded on earlier info si suspect and less trustworthy so I think your plan just sabotages us 1 I agree we need elim reactions but like I said above I dont think this spit vote actually makes elims react cause I dont feel threatened at all but I cna see why if you think theyd feel just as threatened you would think your plan works but I cant understand why youd think a "oh I might vote this" is anywere near as threatenning as an actual vote and besides this "pool of votes" is just a way of complicating "here are my suspicions here is my vote here are the people I could move to if my thoughts change" and making it all a lot more confusing for the village 3 again this is just what people do normally and your whole pool thing just messes it all up 5 ok I just think your plan is just saying to go about your business but also try not to tier your suspicions so your plan is just "do stuff normally but also confuse us" nad I think Ive said this a lot so sorry if Im coming across badly but I just really dont like your plan 6 I mean I was kind of assuming to keep your suspect pool actually accurate youd have to imply all of your suspicions there are about equal so you oculdnt prosecute someone thoroughlyt ror naything so your suspicions are kind of hindered 4 Im voting you because i dont like your strategy cause I have a hard time finding people suspicious for anything and also weird logic sours my opinion of people so if the logic is cleraed up the suspicion goes away a bit I know this is kind of a bad way to think about suspicions but its really the only way I can find people to vote in the first cicle I mean I can kind of understand where the thought process is comning from now but that doesnt relaly help cause I think his thought process is wrong and sure maybe I could think better of them cause I know they arent entirely illogical but I just dont really feel good about them Hi yes what is a "climbdown" and also what do you want to hear from me whats up hi how are you today may I say you are looking particularly wordy with a nice metaphorical hat

When Aracha was young, she was told that if she was bright enough and clever enough and pretty enough she’d be able to marry into a good family without debts as deep as chasms. When Aracha was young, she had thought her mother to be the most beautiful woman to ever grace Roshar, loving her with a distant sort of admiration. When Aracha was young, her father listed the unmarried and unpromised noblemen, some her age, most older. Far older. When Aracha was young, she kissed a girl in a stormshelter while her parents mingled with the men they wanted her to marry. When Aracha was young, her mother told her that even if the family wasn’t on the verge of begging for coin, she wouldn’t be able to marry a woman. Dalliances, perhaps, but she would marry a man, as is proper and befitting of a lighteyes, and she would just have to hope that her husband would tolerate her unfaithful behavior. When Aracha was less young, she left home to further her education. Her family would survive in her absence, possibly even thrive without the extra mouth to feed, and her wardship under a somewhat reputable scholar would not require funds. Everything would be… well, not fine, but tolerable. Everything would be just fine. And it was. She learned, devoted herself to the Calling of logic, joined her mentor’s devotary, and even started writing some essays. Then she received a letter from her mother. Her father had fallen ill. Deathly ill. Treatment was incredibly expensive, and the moneymaker of the family had just been taken out. The debt hadn’t gotten any smaller in her absence, and the moneylenders knew their faces well enough to turn them away without listening. There was no other way. She would have to rob Adolin Kholin. Well, hopefully not so literally, but at the very least rob him of a spouse who would be able to love him back. Actually, taking his wealth was the worst-case scenario. Re-enacting her childhood nightmares was… unpleasant, but at least he wasn’t absolutely hideous. She could pretend to want him. Probably. I think people should definitely just say what they are voting and then if theres a mismatch in the vote count next cycle we vote the liars. I see no reason why randomness helps the village at all and also Archer's point about "oh elims dont like randomness so ignroance will help on the vote front" but only for c1 seems weird cause we're probably just wrong anyway and also them losing a C1 elim doesnt really seem like a huge lsos cause we'll be finding conenctiosn that arent there msot of the time also lying about your vote is inherently suspiciosu and theres nothing wrong with it being a vanilla game vvanilla games are great Ashbringer's proposal doesnt seem much better honestly why would we do that what is the benefit to noth aving a cohesive vote why would that help at all. If anything it just helps elims find ways to mislead and say "no I said I would vote for one of these people" and giving excuses. I just think we should all be honest but with how things seem to be going strategy wise I dont think everyone will agree I dont really like Archer's strategy and I dont understand why offering a spread helps with accountability at all it just gives you a chance to excuse yourself later and get out of actually saying what you think so Im voting Archer but if you explain your strategy better maybe I could see merit possibly

Yeah. In the role bits for Lightweaver and Informat you said the round bit happens if the other team wins. But up top it says this And it does the same but flipped thing for the Informat

Which game was this? Sounds neat. How was that players engagement in the game? I wanna make sure the neutral palyer ends up happy with it Yeah I changed it to serial killer for now. Fun fact youre the first Mechs fan Ive found without intentionally looking for Mechs fan discords and stuff. Gold star! Also in the place where you talk about the Informat and Lightweaver roles I think you mixed up the "if so and so group wins the main phase" bit cause right now you have it as Lightweaver needs to not die if the village wins and Informat needs to not die if the elims win but I think its supposed to be the other way around. Or you got it mixed up in the Basics section but rihgt now its contradicting

Im kinda worried about that too honestly the switchy bit was mostly as a "oh no if you are dying tap out now" but I didn't really consider the interactions. Maybe tell the elims if No One sides with them and who it is possibly? But honestly No One feels kind of useless for both sides cause they dont count for numbers but also I dont relaly want them to count for numbers cause what if they dont die until late game. Honestly No One just feels a bit clunky and the only reason I want them in there is because of Loki in The Bifrost Incident as a holdover of my idea to have roles as characters but I scrapped that cause I didnt wnat alignment based roles You know what would be fun? I could m ake them a serial killer but on the extra life loss they can remember and switch sides if they want but still dont count for numbers and stuff. does that sound like a viable thing?

Hi heres a game idea I have please critique and stuff also if the link share thing doesn't work let me know https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P_rJhza1K6FIZ55r1O1tQ1DWLcSHaV2_q6zMuDp44Z8/edit?usp=sharing Edit oh by the way its based on The Bifrost Incident by the Mechanisms and it will probably be a mid range game

Hi so I would like a mid range slot please for a game based on the Bifrost Incident by thw Mechanisms cool bye

Wow congrats to elims I didnt predict TJ at all you guys got really lucky on that four way tie. Also great job Kasimir thanks for helping out the good guys even though you could have just chilled your a great guy and I really appreciate it Matrim gets a gold star for being giving a really good scan recomernndation for scan and being a ver ynice person in general thanks Matrim you are cool Are you saying I didnt have solid analysis hmmm? Probably didnt honestly Im not great at it but also ha alignment scanners are the best I actually caught someone yay! Ok now to read the elim doc its really long wow you talked a lot its like 1.5x the dead doc good job

Hi! Id like to play as Aracha a secretly gay woman whos doing it to help her poor parents by marrying rich (and even if she doesnt win its still a good way to meet pretty ladies)

Hi hello turns out I cant play after all sadness but Id like to wwatch thanks!

Hi! I kinda want to play jst so I can say I was around for the 'first' game but honestly Im not sure if I'll be available so tentative play but I'll update you if Im not available so I can just watch instead I dont know any historical items sadness Im not part of history yet so no historical items for me.

STINK posts Has not said much. I dont think Im capable of gtting a read on this person Karnatheon posts Wasn't there a thing earlier about how Karnatheon mentioned the dead people's items which made him look good since there mgiht have been item fudging? Beyond that theres just a lot of interaction with villagers. Similar problem as with STINK honeslty Araris posts I could spin a lot of their stuff as elim strategy but honestly ivllagers can do it too so... I think I just always feel iffy about Araris and I cna't relaly trust my own reads on them very much. Why?

Congrats, Devotary! This was a lot of fun and I liked the funny role names. I don't really know what else to say so I'll just leave it at that!

I think the "has died" bit means Haelbarde was not killed from steel so knife or Hrovell With last cycles deaths thats 5 kills from 3 steel so lots of nicrosil/duralumin. either 3 kills from 1 steel or 2 depending on how they doubled Items last time Items now Delta I'm willing to bet a lot of these are from deaths cause we have 10 items added at a minimum with probbaly more considering item snatching Obviously Archer but yeah discussion. I'll look through Archer's posts nad be back with thoughts later but Im posting this now so it doesn't sit here

This also makes sense because he said earlier that he put in 6 and inconsistency on the same item seems a bit werid honestly and the fact that the discrdency lines up with the difference in the claim seems hmm Borts posts by bit day 1 Won't be around Something about beards Syas hi, voges Tani as retaliation Negotiates vote off More negotiatiosn Unvotes Tani gives a beardnut Night 1 (Nothing here) Day 2 Clais to not do anything N1 Asks about terms More terms Night 2 Suspicious of Drake Kasimir and Araris Friendly confersation More convo No panrial Akssa bout terms More temrs wy people won't want stuff Lots of people no stuff cause RNG Didn't notice new vial Day 3 Lots of alternatives to the kill and also rule questions that they numbered wrong grrr that was confusing also odd tone but then again dead so The question about bendalloy makes me go hmm about elim bendalloy strategies to avoid blocks/redirects on the kill Asks about red wedding More rule questiosn Red wedding ish Sarcasm Fluffy bits Votes on Archer Bort was more valuable probably because of all the items they couldn't pass which explains Archer's lack of vote until the confirm bit Vote rule changes from old times Kasimir is a nice guy Confesses their sins Accepting the inevitable Doomed Child abandonment I think I'm treating Archer like they're already confired evil even though they haven t been which might be a bad thing. I could speculate the Tani bit beinga clever fake but thats probably nt likely. Thinking btter fo Drake nad Araris I was trying to find suspicions taht arent Archer and I came away with more Archer suspicion and that is probably not a good thing but I have two tests tomorrow so Im gonna leave for te night have fun

You get told how much you add? And weren't you the one to add earlier? So did you get told then and not tell us? Saying you scanned someone as red just makes it obvious that your lying even if you say it to an elm because if you're saying it to everyone yu said it to all the elims who will just tell each other and even if they don't because some reason you are tlling the murderer that you scanned them as elim. Just think about that for a second . You are telling the murderer that you know they're a murderrer. thats not how a rational scanner behaves probably unless this site has a lot more weird stuff then I expected The thing that really gets me about whether Bort is an elim is if Bort is telling the truth and the elims didn't kill then why did they stop stockpiling now? If they picked up duralimin or nicrosil why would they use it now? If they didn't, why would thye burn all their vials? To frame bort? They could have made a case for Bort even if tere was just the one as "oh this is them covering for Bort lets get him out of here". I don't get why the elims would do this and I think the confusion about the elim strategy is fueling confusion about Bort by proxy so... I don't think Id be opposed to them dying today? Tani voted Drake for... very little? Stick voted Archer for aking assumptions whih I odn't necessarily want to vote Archer for because that would make me a hypocrite since I had the same reaction when I saw the thread. I think Kasimir voted Bort fro "pressure" probably? and Archer voed Drake for "stunts" barring actual info. Illwei votes Archer for a differing opinion I think? And discrediting confirmed villagers? I'd honestly be okay with Archer dying today too but between a suspicion from public game stuff and a supsicion from opinins and psychology Im going with the game stuff Bort

Items last time: Items now Making net change of this Archer says they added 8 so that checks out iff no one took any cadmium which... fair Idk if you mean what I think you mean but roleblocks dont lose the vial. At least the one described as a roleblock (Hazekiller). I guess chromium could do it but I don't knwo if someone could confiently say its' a roleblock because what if no vials or wrong vial or such I have three tests tomorrow so Im getting off now see you in 24 hours have fun