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Bye Amanuensis wishing you all the best So um last turn was eventful I think this basically clears Arelon and the shadow voters no way people go for an unnecessary bus with two already down I really need to reevaluate everyone I dont even remember my suspicions with all the chaos Matrim well they just voted shadow off so... also only really worked with a Devotary tema and theres probably just one elim left Baker I like them but hoenstly they could totally be evil and sticking to bread and Id have no way of knowing also the push on Kasimir time after time is just kinda wonnky Sibling maybe Id like them more if theyd ever get on the doc the only thing making me trust the mat this point is this one thing they said but I cant verify that unless they get on the doc Bort hm tehy voted with shadow not the bes tlook in the world there was some suspicion early on for something kinda lingering feelings Tani also voted with shadow but I think theyre village they kinda cleared stuff up even though they have an evil aura Kasimir obviously village the most villagery villager to ever village I salute you Arelene plus strong arguments plus good vibes plus pretty words Devotary they voted shadow also I thought they were vilage before so Orlok Arelene plus I like their words i mean that doesnt mean much but good vibes TJ Arelene apparently argued against the Amanuensis thing which is plus for them I would go back and look at things more but I have to leave in like five minutes so instead Ill do some RP bye The Teod empire was crumbling at the seams. Now all that was left was the absent fourth alternate and Eshena. A courier. A false diplomat unfit to sit at the table before them. The fate of Teod rested on their shoulders. They were no Atlas, and Teod was not the world, but they could almost feel the weight. But they would bear it. They had to. No one would carry it for them. They would do this for the future. For Teod. For all the fallen friends they had lost along the way. And if they fell, at least they would not be alone in the Beyond.

Ok so if Im understanding this rigth the case goes something like this Archer made a really really really really bad argument against amanuensis Archer is a smarter player than that Therefore it must have been done on purpose Of course oversimplyfing let me just try to understand Just to clarify this more in depth cause I see Experience nad me just sorta said 'this isnt what happened' Amanuensis said something along the lines of thinking Thaidakrs hyper vote awareness = evil then said something about not being surprised if they were evil then the convo moved on we takled about various strategy things and coordination things within empire then Archer suddenly returned Amanuensis with something about how Amaneunsis was confident in the evilness of Thaidakar but then also said something about how elim team probably not planning on voting off Thaidakar and they had this really really long argument in the doc that doesnt really read partners to me Based on doc stuff at least Archer seemed to really believe the Thaidakar stuff they went all in on that in the doc they talked up a storm in the early bits of the cycle based on things mentioned in doc about 35 hours left in day turn I mean I kinda feel like voting off multiple people at once though cutting time off does increase the village controlld kill to elim controlled kill ratio and is a bit more helpful in either or scenarios but hmm Ok so this is a good point I can understand wantin trust reads dead though but also now I kinda feel like Im just defending Amanuensis without purpose let me go think about why I trust them Ok so I gve it some thought and all the reasons why I trust them can be tied into the argument so it all comes down to whether or not Archer is a good evil palyer um could you link me some of their past evil games I dont think Ive played with Archer as evil before this game but from what I remember they sometimes do really weird things that seem kinda wonky but they believe in it for some reason and the entire argument is founded on 'Archer is smarter than this' and yeah I mean that was a really really weird move by Archer but I just dont relaly know at this poin these words are really prtety but I odnt want to just follow I was about to raise the point that they did this in MR57 then I remembered... hmm In yoru wroldview how possible is it that Archer just sorta went tunnel vision on village Amanuensis for something they found suspicious and didnt realize no one else found it ssupsicous cause there wasnt really a ton of doc activity to refute Archers points other than Amanuensis Like based on what you and Arelon knows I kinda feel ilke this is a really solid case but the doc stuff in Teod doesnt really sell it to me honestly that sorta live back and forth semes hard to fake I dont really want Amanuensis dead but I dont know if I can think clearly on that matter is there a foundation for the case besides 'Archer isnt stupid' cause if there is Id be a lot more confident in it

Ok so I thoguht I saw a post from you saying that not wanting to reveal was a vil opinion but I cant find it so just ignore this and if thread people know what Im talking about pleas elink it I looked through previous stuff but got all mixed up aah See the elims would still have the information about doc members with 0 1 1 2 cause process of elimination for doc members so really pushing no mass reveal for strategy wise doesnt really imply one way or another on that does imply at least 3 infiltrated empires which was kinda the going assumption I also dont know what equity is in mafia context but I keep reading it as financial definition of shares in a compnay and its kinda funny that way oh they have shares in the company 'partners with Devotary' I guess I can kinda get why people made it mean something along the lines of 'a somewhat likely thing' it does kinda fit and its a snappy word nice word Ok Ill try So D1 Devotary doesnt really interact with Archer or Illwei all that much except for floaty stuff thats not really indicative of anything until the Archer vote the thing is the Archer vote train doesnt really read as 'oh no lets save Devotary our power role' it reads as 'this dude made a supsicious post' because... they did. I can maybe see people jumping on that suspicous post to save Devotary but thats just in theory the actual voes on them read very clean it just doesnt feel like a 'save Dvotary' attempt the only thing that could be hmm is how Archer voted Thaidakar instead of Devotary And after that they never interact again seriously Illwei never mentions Devotary and Devotary never mentions Illwei so Im sorry but post analysis really isnt helping here any more than good ol vote analysis So the thing about Devotary suspicion is its founded on one that Experience vote two Archer preferring Thaidakar three Illwei preferring Matrim and thats supposed to show thye wanted Devotary ailve but heres the thing the way the votes went down on Archer doesnt really imply attempt at saving Devotary unless Archers post was intentionally sus to save them but the votes on there seem legit same with votes on Illwei besides why killwei to save Devotary when Illweis a roleblocker and I know I voted Devotary last time but the more I think about it the more I just kinda think thyere village The language is Mandoa the phrase is a daily recitation for the dead it means 'I am still alive but you are dead I remember you so you are eternal' and then you say the name its very cool ok now RP Ive neglected it With the comforting warmth of tea in hand, Eshena began walking to the meeting room. With enough tea, they could do anything, even be a diplomat. Maybe. Hopefully. As she reached the room, she took a moment to glance at the names of removed diplomats. A few unfamiliar faces, Zara dead, and– Atashbringer had been a disrupter? They hadn't known the General very well, but they had seemed at least somewhat devoted to the task. Though, in hindsight, revealing the entirety of the Teod empire was a little bold, even for a former soldier. They took a sip of tea, trying to build up the confidence to push open the doors. Two disrupters gone in as many days. Maybe they weren't needed after all. Maybe they could go back to being a courier and scribe instead of being a diplomat. It wasn't like they could make matters much better with the current track record of the room. Maybe... They took another sip of tea. It was too late to turn back. They'd already told their superiors that they would show up. With a shaking hand, they pushed the door. It didn't open. Then they realized it was a pull door. They pulled the door open awkwardly and stepped inside.

Maybe youd know if the docs still compromised if youd look in it you know Im very lonely with ghosts for ocmpany they cant talk maybe I should treat it as a solo doc instead of an empire where are the respresientatives of the great Teo empire oh theyre all dead or skipping out on us howw sad Ok lets see how the votes went down Kasimir starts off with a self vote Amanuensis votes Kasimir to help I think Striker votes Devotary says Matrim and Illwei as backups See Id really appreciate it if youd say your reasoning in the post instead of making me go back trhough past turns and find your reasons So youve never actually said reasoning on them which is grrrrrrrrrrr but not really hmm you do that a lot and its annoying every time I think youre following the Kasimir argument for them but not sure casue you never said Araris votes Striker for disagreeing with Amanuensis and Matrim but still voting with them Definitely agree that one was weird but then they said it was a joke but then again grrrr joke votes grrrrrrrrr Striker votes Araris for 'faulty reasoning' Where is the faulty reasoning you did have a weird vote there alos you just confessed to acting weird This whole bit feels hmm like relaly hmm maybe even a hmmm Tani votes Araris for not wanting empire reveal and not saying why Even though this was already cleared up its a bit hm how Tani jumped straight to a vote without thinkinga bout time zones or bein gbusy or anything like that Then again might be me just annoyed about the reveal withotu consent thing again thats very very grrrrrrrrrrrr Tani votes Baker for possibly using the wrong color Ok look no ones actually explained this wasnt Baker only posting bread how do they use the wrong color of pictures of bread Also this is just irrational at this point assumptions all over the place grrrrr But grrr is not hmm and I cant see why evil Tani would want to flop around like this I think they might have an aura of evil yeah that makes sense actually not actually evil just very not good Tani votse Illwei for coming clean about it and saying the reason Ok so thisis the most grrrrrrrrrrrrrr thing Ive seen this game and theres been a lot of grrr things going on like the whole reason for the vote was not expalining why then they explain why and you vote them its so grrr I cant even But Illwei was evil so I dont really think Tanis evil for this its just really grrr Kasimir votes TJ for what is apparently not for the doc stuff and is actually for the opposite of the doc stuff my bad there See this is the sort of thing that makes me think village Kasimir this sorta stuff right here the good stuff Amanuensis votes TJ for the cheap shot at Thaidakar as classic teammate save Thaidkaars the sort of player to just radiate evil kinda like Tani right now this aura of menace But that vote made 2 on Thaidakar while there was just one on Archer this reason doesnt hold water Also quick side note not really vote related but this Amanuensis Illwei convo really leaves Amanuensis coming out clean Kasimir votes Devotary Amanuensis votes Devotary Kasimir votes Matrim for being passive Illwei votes Matrim JNV votes Devotary for the Experience vote thing Oh by the way Matrim saw your response I was willing to sus Illwei and TJ for the empire thing and did give a little sus to Illwei I think I forgot about TJ mentioning that when I was writing it up but did you not read my post besides your name Striker slef votes for the tie See this sort of attitute just feels good and the tie mania is what demotes the otherwise hmmm votes to just hm TJ votes Matrim for the response to Devotary questioning their immediate hop to 'same empire plot' This doesnt really make sense to me answering a question is suddenly 'doubling down' on a 'ridiclous statement' Seems kinda bad faith like already assuming Matrim is 'ridiculous' Amanuensis votes Matrim for immediately knowing the shared empire Striker votes Devotary Amanuensis votes Devotary for the tie I guess Araris votes Devotary Hmm Striker votes Illwei for the tie Sibling votes Devotary Hmm See the problem with Sibling is theyve had really sketch thread stuff and the one or two times in the doc theyve shown up they dip like immediately and theres only like one thing keeping me from voting them and its the fact that its night time ok I guess theres 1.5 things keeping me from voting them in that I kinda want to vote them right now but I dont know if Ill still want to vote them tomorrow I will say though this vote did come after a doc interaction where I mentioned that I kinda sused Devotary so maybe they just hopped on that But then they said its gut not 'oh a docmate mentioned it' and how did they get that gut if theyve been gone this whole time Bort votes Illwei Striker selfvotes accdientally Matrim votes Devotary to live Striker votes Matrim Amanuensis votes Illwei for not having their heart in the game Matrim votes Striker Striker serlf votes for the tie see this is why I think theyre good Matrim votes Illwei to break the tie Striker tries to vote Devotary for the tie So my conclusion off this is more likely good Striker and Devotary wobbly on Tani hmm on Sibling please get on the doc Amanuensis

@Amanuensis I was lost in the wilderness and I thought you were too but no you were waiting all along and I thought wed stumble out together but the route I thought I chose was the one you made for us all along and as we walked deeper into the darkness with each step you promised light just out of sight and it never came and I dont remember why I trusted you I dont remember I dont remember but I did and that was our undoing and I tip my hat at you and for some reason Im not surprised Thank you for a valuable lesson. I will remember. And when I end up evil, turnabout is fair play. @Matrim's Dice @|TJ| Sorry I didnt listen to you as I clung to the only piece of certainty I thought I had in this world and only was convinced as the earth shifted beneath my feet and when the world reformed it left me behind the error is mine the error will always be mine and the past is our burden to carry I think Im getting a bit too melancholy great job elims that was impressive thanks to everyone else in the game that Im really blanking on right now and last and best of all @Kasimir Thank you for a beautiful game

Hi hi hi sorry for not being on yesterdya I had like a million things to do sadness but Im here now yay now thoughts on people cause people exist Matrim they had a weird empire position then were swayed by Shadow even though Shadow said basicaly what I said with fancier words and prettier grammar which isnt really hmm just grr cause I had words and you didnt listen it kinda feels like 'evil person realizing controversial opinion jumping ship' especially with how combative they were with Amanuensis askin gfor reasons and then like they instantly knew the plan was devised in the empire doc even though the only public info was Experience and Amanuensis were both Teo and that late Thaidakar vote I used to want to vote you but Illwei just ninjad with a no reason vote on you even though they said they agreed with me about no reeason votes being grrr so that looks worse on them so maybe I wont vote you just for that Striker well they did try to vote Thaidakar which of course is hmmmm and a lot of their early posts just ping wrong for some reason specially the one where hteyre saying why Matrim and Amanuensis seem suspiciious Illwei they feel kinda different from other games usually theyre around more and such but havent seen too much of them tentative they feel hmm this game tonally kinda weird also against empire sharing which I think is scummy in a 3 or 4 infiltrated empires world cause in that case hiding empire lists only hurts village plus they seem to have the same opnion matrim had about tmi in different words which is kinda wierd honestly not really sus but weird solid grrr questio nmark on Illwei with a side of hmm Baker Im kinda reading them postiively cause theyre actually using the bread to talk a bit more but that might be the simple happiness of not talking to a brick (bread) wall also the constraints of not beingable to give any explanation and writing it off as 'oh I can only talk in bread pics' is kinda inherently grrr and somewhat hmm even if its not sus necessarily cause that just kinda hurts us ya know like I appreciate the effort but I can think of lots of ways bread pictures could be turned into something informative you could have little menus or recipe cards for bread that actually have reasons in lines and stuff you could do morse code with bread slices and loaves for dot and dash you could do moodboards of bread theres just a lot of ways to help that you arent giving so youre not realky hmm but you are grrrrrrrr Sibling theyve shown up a few times and just off thread stuff Id be a bit hm but they have decent doc interactions some positive vibs there solid nullish Bort so the case against them is based on past behavior poke vote something theyve done as evil in the past lots plus that really weird Araris vote and such I can dfeinitely see it but kinda less willing on that cause I wasnt around for that definitely an option to keep in mind if my current stronger suspicion falls through Tani honestly forgot they were in this game before looking at the player list oh they revealed an empire list without getting clear consent from every member on that list thats pretty hmmmmm like I dont really know why an elim would want to do that and I think in a distro where elims do know all the empires cause 3 or 4 infiltrated ones theyd want to keep it on the down low so not really sus just kinda grrrr plus eyebrow raise also they said Baker used the wrong color how did baker use color when theyre only posting bread do they dye the bread different colors thats kinda wierd could you elaborate or someone else in the same doc corroborate or something also also the vote on Araris was cause they thought Araris didnt say why but whne Illwei fessed up they said why they didnt want sharing and Tani still voted seems a little too convenient honestly seems a bit hmm but maybe this is me being annoyed that they didnt get clear cosnent and projecting that on their character in a fit of accidntal slander Kasimir the whole thing about being willin to die for people to listen to them rang really village to me plus they had really good thorough poist about Devotary and bort really appreciate it friendo Amanuensis has good doc vibes or at least had good doc vibes how am I supposed to feel out your doc vibes if you wont get on the doc please Im lonely I have a ghost and a barely there sibling for company but overall v positive v nice love you friendo but also Devotary ok so the Devotary case is founded on that Experience vote while saying its hard to believe an elim would do this like I said earlier its not a case of 'this is bad villae play so its evil' its a case of 'this is bad play so its not really indicative of anything' but the kicker here is they voted Archer why would they do that with a perfectly good Thaidakar right there but also theres a thing where if the village dies the immediate choice is the other wagon so like Kasimir said if Devotary has a role suddenly best move is to kill Archer and be like 'oh no evil here couldnt be me' and I just feel like that vote on Experience is evil or in the best case not thought out very well bad plays are not necessarily evil honestly Id say theyre slightly less likely to be evil honestly cause evil people try to be careful and less um how do I say this less... careless? with their actions and reputation and such and I just dont get that vote it bugs me Orlok have they posted yet not sure on that let me check ok they havent posted yet but Baker said they were 'bread' but then again they did sort of do everyone alive might be doing some sort of innocent til proven guilty policy hope to see you soon Shadow so i agree with a lot of what they said in that D1 post that was cool lots of good thoughts positive vibes from them they just ninjad me with good thoughts TJ so the main (only?) case against them is their confusion in their emprie doc and Im a bit hesitant to trust paraphrasings of things I cnat see very easy to misportray especially accidentally and bsides I can imagine somene making that mistake so Im not going to say this clears or ocndemns them its just a thing maybe either alingmnet thing and I dont think its a big deal just carry on then again Kasimir did say they were trimming some illegla speculation so maybe its a bit worse than I think it is I dont really think its a big deal Um also I kinda think this whole thing is cause Kasimir got stuck in the idea that one of their bros is evil as a doomsday scenario and with the slightest hint of weird stuff going on is like 'oh no its true theyre evil now Im sad' which fair but also theres better cases for evil people ones just take what TJ said as something not really alignment bound just an oh whoops thing Oh ok reading back again they did vote Thaidakar I guess that combined with doc stuff does make a recipe for evil double double toil and trouble I can see it Im comfy with it not going to pursue it with other cases that I can interact with more If I forgot someone or left someones thing in the middle of a sentence let me know I had to stop halfway through and eat dinner this took like four hours gah EDIT Im an idiot forgot to actually vote that one suspicion this is what I get for posting late at night grr Devotary

Oh ok sorry sorry The Unknown Novel you ar ea ninja here is your shuikin and your katana and your cool black outfit go strike terror into the hearts of men And maybe some RP now in the late night Im about to pass out so Kai was involved now. There was no escaping it. Not when they were drunk and trying to hug the people at the table. Even if they died tomorrow, even if everyone died tomorrow, they had tonight. And it was a glorious night.

Ok hi hi hi I should have gotten offline an hour ago but I am sneaky so Im here hi hi hi also a bit hyper but we can do this we can vote off TJ finally praise be I am so happy right now big smile All the doom and gloom is gone we die on our feet not on our knees and best of all we die together Amanuensis we can do this we can Im so happy right now vote vote vote EDIT: Matrim you stole all my joy like some sort of... i dont even know please go back on TJ? EDIT2: Or I could move I guess which do you prefer

Ok wow good job did not expect that let me examine what happened So heres C1 thoughts Matrim just sorta realized the empire point once shadow said it but like I said basically the same thing and they didnt get it was it my poor grammar that confused you or something so nto really suspicious but grrr So Devotarys reaction to the Experience evil claim was a bit strong maybe Im biased cause Im in Experiences empire so I was told about the plan in advance but while claiming elim isnt necessarily a villagery thing to do its not an evil thing to do its just... not smart and being wrong doesnt mean evil automatically and honestly being wrong kinda feels very very very mild good to me cause elims are tryin gto be trusted and stuff and seem credible but claiming elim just sort of undoes that so hmm for that solid hmm maybe even hmmm So about the Bort thing I could see it but also think its plausible that they just read an old game or something to learn all the terms they didnt know or something recently or that like they siad they looked something up like maybe they did research so theyd stop having to ask about stuff who knows I dont like to make assumptios about what people do nd do not know specially when I dont know the person too well but I definitely think the Araris suspicion is not founded on reasonable grounds And yeha I can definitely see why Archer was voted off that post... man thats a kinda misrepresetnation of the empire doc there and just general hmmm ness going on if there was bussing on there it would be hard to tell the difference just cause theres so much to critique on there also they kinda just spilled our identities the open to reveal thin gwas more of a 'we go when we want' consent thing so that was kinda rude TJs vote on Thaidakar seems kinda opportunistic The kasimir thoughts under the spoiler seem like good thoughts but then again my brain is easily convinced by chains of long pretty words (also known as sentences) but then again I really agree with their Devotary points less sure about their Bort poinst but I feel like tehir definitely coming from a position of good one of my strongest reads you are a cool guy and you just ninjad me with a post with more data about Bort maybe I could come around to that let me look into things then get back to you And Shadow comes in with a wowza post I dont necessarily think the elim empire distribution is 100% random not necessarily handpicked but probably adjusted so it doesnt end up with the 4 elim empire sorta situation or three rolls see which one looks the nicest and also you misspelled my name like its three letters come on but ok ok not really suspicious just a type and also thanks for the perfect example of why I dont really think poke votes do anything whatsoever how is someone suposed to be motivated to post by a ping if theyre offline besides how does the vote help any more than just pinging them to ask them thoughts until theyre already looking you cant preview unless you have email notifs for pings and thats off by default and it just encourages people to say 'hey im here' and have that be that and thats grr but anyway getting off topic Devotarys late vote could read a bus didnt really say much just sort of implied evil Amanuensis too and its kinda weird And yeah Strikers vote is just always going to look bad in any world even if it didnt quite count thats... yeah Ok now for night thoughts So experience did indeed gambit and their questions could see mweird to the ignorant eye but as a person in the same empire wow they are a trooper they made like 6 pages of analysis all on their own seriously impressive they posted the conclusions a bit above but the exteneded cut was great Oh and Experience, Kasimir is saying that you arent addressing their points about how obvious it was you were lying. Like it was very obvious and I know Im in your empire but man. And Kasimir, I read your thoughts I agree on Devotary that reaction seems a bit hmm on Bort was less confident now slightly mroe confident with all these nice data points thanks for the nice data I will gobble gobble the data like super turkey and yeah Icoud see it would rathe go Devotary first then Bort but either way feels pretty good you feel pretty good thanks There havve been like a bajillion ninjas since I started this post If there are more thne oh well Oh and @The Baker while I respect your determination to post in only pictures of bread could you possibly use whatever thing you used to generate the 'im in' bit from your signup post to generate bread letters of game thoughts? And if you dont want to thats fine but its just... grrr

.... so ok see this exact behaviro is why I was reading Matrim as village this sort of 'I dont even know anymor eguys what are we even doing' mentality but then again they did go back on you so maybe it was feigned but man it feels similar to this I dont know I dont know I dont know and I cant be on tomorrow and if Im on the wrong person we lose and all I really want i sto go back to TJ honestly But the only two elim world that exists in my conceviable world involves The Unknown Novel so in a village The Unknown Novel world its theoretically not at the pure 50 50 point gaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh I dont know anything anymore Tentatively and I mean tentatively moving to The Unknown Novel and in an emergency I could probably steal a friends hotspot to get online hopefully (grr school wifi) so @Matrim's Dice Im suddenly thoroughly convinced of your villageness Amanuensis Ive always been convinced of your villageness you wanna move back to The Unknown Novel? its the only duo I can conceive at this point in time unless its someone and Orlok in which case no ones really going to bite and Id rather go out swinging than screaming into the void come on Please.

Yeah thats what I meant and you said ti was weird how they didnt talk to you about it right right right but ok I guess you wont bite what a shame Ill be very honest its probably hopeless if TJ is evil cause Matrims not moving and Im probably not going to be on tomorrow cause life and school so.. Gosh I really suspect TJ but Ill vote Matrim and @|TJ| if there is any way you arent evil (and even if you are) please please vote Matrim And TJ if you are evil and I was right all along I reserve the right to make incomprehensible noises of barely concealed outrage in the dead doc / aftermath cause I just dont know I really dont but I trust Amanuensis And amanuensis if youve been secretly evil this whole time congrats good job respect

Ok you just gave me a heart attack wrong game Experience wrong game shoo shoo you scared me I thought I posted in the wrong thread for a moment there go away buddy youre not in this game

Ok time to relearn the entirety of middle school grammar and use commas Matrim moved first. Matrim wanted Amanuensis dead, and TJ followed. I said moving was bad as elim, but following is viable. This is because if the original target (xinoehp) dies, then the two can just try again, and if the new target (Amanuensis) dies then the villager's reads are suspect and the elim can take command of the pair. The elim following the villager's vote seems strategic. It hits all of my buttons. Does this make sense to you, or am I crazy? Trimmmed summary suggesting a transfer is bad for elims but following someone elses transfer would be a good strat Matrim pelase vote TJ it makes so much sense and if Im wrong and youre evil it shouldnt matter so just give me this shalow victory please let me die on this hill bury me under the oak tree bring wilting geraniums for my grave in the heart of winter thanks much

Look Matrim was the one who initiated the Amanuensis vote in PMs soliciting TJ making the first move like that is not a great move as evil also going on to me earlier seemed kinda weird cause if Matrim is evil then they had the votes for you cause at least one of TJ The Unknown Novel is good and Orloks been gone they could have just left it at that and even if we consolidated there wouldnt be anything we could do then again they did come back to you so maybe but honestly an elim would want to seem less obstinant and more 'yes I am trying my best' and sure TJ seems listening seeming isnt enough and since youre good as long as they seem reasonable theyre just going to coast kill you kill Matrim either way TJ wins of course theyre coasting of course theyre being nice Matrim moved first Matrim was like 'oh I want Amanuensis dead' and TJ followed I said moving was bad as elim but following is viable cause if the original target dies then oh well try again and if the new target dies then oh the good persons reads arent trustworthy just follow my lead sorta thing following the villagers vote seems strategic it hits all my buttons ok it hits every single one does this make sense to you or am I crazy @|TJ| in the off chance that you are in fact not evil if I move to Matrim would you be willing to follow?

I know only that I know nothing gahh why is this so hard I dont understand why evil TJ would gun for Amanuensis over xinoehp when xinoehp was village seems like itd be easier to force the vote next turn after xinoehps death cause one voter possibly sheep would be done with and flip especialkly if Matrim is village and paranoid cause the same susceptibility actually if either one is an elim manipulating the other then the better option is to let xinoehp die and play off that immediately to reinforce it going to Amanuensis makes no sense its just a worse strategy and xinoehp apparently had to be asked by Matrim for this so Id tentativley think better o fMatrim and go TJ in that case I dont think it can be both of them and honestly Im not ruling out the posibility that its just The Unknown Novel cause they were online last cycle but for now TJ I guess @Matrim's Dice were you colluding with TJ in PMs about that Amanuensis vote if so were you convincing them or they convincing you to hop on Amanuensis and also why do you trust TJ Amanuensis if you are actually an elim youve fooled me congrats you have my eternal respect Kai walked. They didn't know where they were going. They just needed to go. They didn't usually stay long enough to become entwined in the dying moments of a town. Slipping out in the beginning was easier, when the eyes of the enemy were cast far and wide instead of close and piercing. Falling out of the story as a side character instead of a leading role. But they were trapped now, bound by the watching eyes of friend and foe alike, and there was no escape for them. They had to choose. ("You're soft, Kaiya, and besides, you're the third in line. You have no hope of inheritance unless you take matters into your own hands." Their father handed them a small crystal vial. "You know what to do.")

Ok so I made a program actually two programs one without size constraints on empires one with odds dictated by empire size ok actually 3 programs the first one and two with empire size one ofr 4 4 5 5 one for 3 4 5 6 I assumed 4 elims for thsi I could run it again with 3 or 5 but Im leaving it for now heres the results sim 1 doesnt account for numbers sim 2 assumes 4 4 5 5 sim 3 assumes 3 4 5 6 Simulation #1 [0, 0, 0, 4] - 1.6% [0, 0, 1, 3] - 18.8% [0, 0, 2, 2] - 14.1% [0, 1, 1, 2] - 56.2% [1, 1, 1, 1] - 9.4% Simulation #2 [0, 0, 0, 4] - 0.4% [0, 0, 1, 3] - 12.1% [0, 0, 2, 2] - 12.3% [0, 1, 1, 2] - 62.2% [1, 1, 1, 1] - 13.0% Simulation #3 [0, 0, 0, 4] - 0.7% [0, 0, 1, 3] - 14.4% [0, 0, 2, 2] - 12.8% [0, 1, 1, 2] - 60.3% [1, 1, 1, 1] - 11.8% so yeah for true RNG I guess two clear groups is a lot more likely than I thought but most likely 0 1 1 2 and now my computer's melting probably shouldnt have done 1000000 trials each for data collecting one sec Ill be back Ok back now computer is not melted yay Ill drnink to that but apple juice not alcohol alcohol sucks raise your glass for a toast heres to Kasimir heres to fancy docs heres to the great and glorious empire heres to having a good time! I know of Kasimirs doc skills from someone else in the dead doc in some QF I was trying to get the outline to line up but it wasnt working and someone said 'oh Kasimir is a doc wizard' or something like that theyre a cool guy and youre also pretty cool I like your beard that I cant see I mean do people not say 'oh I have a PM with so and so they said this so I read them this' Are you willing to share you rempires current thoughts on sharing their ranks if not thats fine just curious So about Thaidakar I could see but also they do tend to be a little more engaged C1 than other cycles so its hard to get a playstyle read on their current actions and the way all the votes just sorta flopped on them seems a bit hmm let me go look at that a bit So heres the Thaidakar progression Thaidakar enters thread Archer votes them Thaidakar votes Experience I cant figure out what theyre trying to say for reasoning "because of long as *dabs awkwardly*"???? Kasimir votes Thaidakar At this point Thaidakar asks why everyone is voting for them I mean it was just wto votes Then again it was the only other votes at that point But then again again it was like the first moments of the cycle Then Matrim votes Thaidakar Can I just say (not just to Matrim to everyone but this was the most convenient bullet point) that votes without reasoning are grrr they are very unhelpful so please try to give reasoning with the vote instead of when asked thanks Then the conversaiton switches a bit then Amanuensis votes Thaidakar Thaidakar asks for why Amanuensis did it Doesnt ask Kaimir or Matrim Then STriker votes Thaiakar "because why not" Thinks Amanuensis and Matrim are suspicious but votes with them? I mean if Thaidakar is evil and panicking about getting all these votes that would be kinda funny and if so good job I guess but I kinda feel like theyre not considering how no one is protesting this except for me but then again I dont really have any suspicions other than Matrim for tone in response to Amaneensis asking for 5 resasons but that could just be frustration I have to go wont be back for a while see you later have fun without me bye

sdfljsdlfjs why????? please reasons I like reasons Same question to you this is very confusing are you colluding whyyyyyyy??????? You wanna switch to xinoehp since your heads on the chopping block? Oh wait youre offline if you die then sadness I guess you were cool

Do we get to know which emprie didnt make the cut or is that something we just have to live with not knowing honestly doesnt really change much theres a lot of accountability to go off of especially without PMs and theres no functional difference but just thought Id ask Hi love you too oh by the way heard you were the fancy doc guy your service is appreciated and I look forward to seeing your pretty empire doc when the game ends you are a cool guy have a good nap ....ok somehow the quotes got out of order dont know how that happened oh well So youre saying we should keep hush hush in case t he elims make a horrible mistake later what sort of mistake would empire knowledge cover up them saying 'oh I know this person is in this empire?' I wouldnt assume an elim would do that besides honesty is a good policy and considering how Ashbringer I think mentioned in the Art of game creation there was a '0-2 evils per doc' sort of hmm going on maybe it could help with that but then again they might not have used that for this so never mind on that but in summary I think theres no real harm to revealing and a lotta help cause it clears up 'oh these people are linked' as 'oh these people share an empire' and lets us focus on more nefarious connections and agreements Oh and about Thaidakar I will say they do seem kinda more engaged than other games Ive seen them but then again theyre never that cnosistent between games so tentatively just shelving that thought for now on the shelf thats just out of reach so you have to get a tiny box to get it and its a little comedic to see a person getting a really small box just to get the thought on the slightly too high shelf Eshena was quite honestly nobody's first choice for the delegation, but the head diplomat, second diplomat, and the first, second, and third alternates had succumbed to an unfortunate bout of food poisoning. So now Eshena was on the delegation despite being the courier, not any sort of diplomat at all. The only thing they had going for them was their penmanship and relative knowledge of proceedings. Unfortunately, they had extreme social anxiety, which somewhat hampered their ability to negotiate. They could brew a pot of tea like nobody's business, they could whittle a bit, they could write sternly worded letters, but talk to people? Absolutely not. Too bad the fate of the empire depended on it. No pressure. Speaking of tea, that would be a great balm for their frazzled nerves. Yes, tea. Chamomile or lavender, depending on what was closest. The only issue was that they didn't know where the kitchens were. They would have to ask for directions. They would have to ask for directions. They would have to talk to someone to get the tea that would let them relax enough to unclench their jaw. On second thought, maybe they would just stay in their room.

Ok look in all honesty xinoehp is probably good and The Unknown Novel is the last evil guy but I fele like if thats not the case then we have basically nothing to build a new case on and wed end up voting xinoehp next anyway and I cant conceive of a world where anyone but xinoehp and The Unknown Novel are evil which is probably concerning but oh well the audience can laugh at me in the dead doc Oh and by the way no one caught this but when I said this I was being an idiot its down to 6 2 worst case 3 errors to death functionally 2 so I feel pretty comfy getting this wrong cause I dont think the fang would be put in place without some help to elims and sure maybe its The Unknown Novel with two lives but even then we have a spot to burn so yeah I want the only confusing person left in my reads list gone but if you can convince me to move to the chronic inactive who I simply cant read by virtue of there being no book before cycle end then yeah sure Id be down And now some RP cause I forgot earlier The past was an old friend, the oldest of friends, but the weight of history that the stranger spoke of did not resonate with Kai. They did not remember the past turns of the Wheel. They did not taste memory on the wind. They did not feel the weight of foreign years left in the dust of the Wheel's path. They had only their past, their history, and there was nothing else for them. If history was doomed to repeat, perhaps that was for the best. One set of memories was more than enough. (The sand in their eyes and the pressure in their chest they cannot breathe they cannot breathe they cannot breathe) Yes, yes, truly it was better that they did not have history like ink staining their soul, like stamps upon a stack of papers imprinting on the ones beneath. They just had the one life, and it was the only thing that was truly theirs. No one else could live their life. No one else could possibly lay claim to it. They couldn't say that about many things, these days. And if their eyes stung with phantom pain and they woke up choking on perfectly good air and they couldn't wash their face without trembling, there was nothing more that can be done. They had the one life, and they would live it as best they could.

Ok good job on getting Bort sorry I didnt vote last time but I kinda lost the ability to see straight in a manner that isnt really blurry which isnt really condusive to analysis and it did resolve itself after a good nap but I cant get on late cycle sad then again I would hae probably ended up on Orlok cause I thought it was weird Bort saved Stick as evil and ruined the catch so... not sad? Also elims thanks for killing Stick the paranoia has been vanquished I can trust again So the players alive are this Thaidakar So with the complete... I dont know how to describe it without insulting them so Im just not going to try but with their whole thing I already thought they were village (but not raelly a trust if that makes sense) But with the Bort reveal the village ness of this guy is practically confirmed cause Bort did hop on them at Stick's behest The Unknown Novel ....sigh they are just absent and thats not great for reads or naything like that so yeah evil until proven otherwise xinoehp So I know theyve been very floaty but with the Bort reveal I dont think the elims would put two people on the 'defend Stick' train so close temporally especially with how Thaidakar seems good so I dont really suspect them but I dont really trust them and thats arguably still bad Matrim I trust them. Ok elaborating on that I odnt think an elim would be so obvious to move off Bort with so little time to spare esspecially if there wasnt a salvation operation for Bort coming up I dont think Matrims bad at the game so assuming 'paranoid village' instead of 'suboptimal elim' Orlok Seems unlikely both Bort and Orlok are evil and besides unless this person really likes public transport Im not inclined to think theyre evil Amanuensis This is the only person out of everyone in the game I actually think feels village cause everyone else feels so scummy But beyond that I should probably look into their posts a bit and get a more updated read I feel like this is my bad memory at play I just cant remember facts well emotions yes facts no TJ On the one hand I cant see the Archer kill coming from them on the other hand with how thy argued against The unkown Novel and Amanuensis possibly being evil cause of activity on the Archer kill I could possibly see a team on the third hand thats actually the first in the disguiseI cant really see how if theyre evil even with low active teammate they would let that kill slide On the fourth hand I should just get another look at them So conclusion of course The Unknownn Novel could be evil alone but with a teammate I would presume the teammate would be calling a lot of the shots if their thread activity is any indicator of eim doc activity so hard to detect partner off their flip and while I dont know if therer were four elims at the start better to assume the worst than to be surprised methinks xinoehp posts C1 Pro C2 fang Misinterprets rules about Fangining veterans and thinks Elders are probably low count plus thinks theres a lurker evil Bucket list notably trusts Bort for 'village vibes' despite controversy Distrust aggression See this is weird but its not evil weird its just weird in general Evil vibes off Stick which fair adjust TJ to good which hm Araris bad bucket Votes Thaidakar over Stick C2 So despite saying TJ could go in the good bucket they dont move them hmm Links Archer and Thaidakar as evil and is willing to vote TJ despite things Hmmm TJ worse than Archer Why? If I missed one of your posts about this sorry but I dont think so TJ worse than Striker C3 Votes TJ also village elder I could see xino what with the sudden TJ sus despite everything else and considering their absence in major votes the Archer kill isnt out of the question So its 8 2 worst case they win on outnumbered so technically we have 4 wrong votes to death but functionally 3 cause that last ones a 50 50 and conveniently enough I have only 3 pepole Im down to voting off plus the kill will be informative cause again everyone but Amanuensis feels evil and Matrim suspects Amanuensis so I dont think theyll be killed soon actually for kill speculation probably me honestly I think people like me right now so that means I die xinoehp for now but yeah I also think The Unkonwn Novel is likely I just dont think their flip will give us much info so this for now since its the only toher plausible suspicion I can find that makes any sesne bye now have a good time zone see you later

If you dont think Araris was bussed then why sus Orlok (I also sus orlok just for relative existnece patterns so this is just a thought) cause Orlok killed Araris by saving Stick so if Orlok is evil it was a bus so are you saying more specifically you think all the Araris voters are clean or do you think the Araris vote was purely village in all aspects (in which case Orlok would not be a viable candidatie for suspicion unless you are willing to have contradictions to yourself which ok but should really think about that) Logically good but I dont like it Stick Matrim TJ Thaidakar Feels pretty good honestly Amaneunsis Meh The Unknown Novel xinoehp Honestly all the bad vibes and no good logic Bort Orlok unordered on each tier and yes amanuensis is the only pretty good person here the rest of you must be supervillains as a part time job its the only explanation for the aura of menace Amaneusnsis is obviously a full time supervillain whos gotten better at hiding the evil plus they have a good union program for their henchmen A+ supervillain I support Now the issue with only four people in the pool of evil with what is probably three evil remaining is that I think one of the 'logically good but I dont like it' group is probably evil cause Bort ⊕ Orlok evil (only one) unless they are going for maximum distance for smooth sailing or I guess technically speaking it should be Bort | Orlok (not and, xor but includes neither) and I think Im wrong about soemthing cause Im always wrong about something I just want TJ dead its a silly idea at this point but man I want them dead so much its not even that I think theyre evil its just they feel so evil and logically theyre not evil but of all the logic group I feel like theyre the tenuous link but also no they are most definitely good you know what Im just going to stop mentioning TJ starting now Speculation probably wrong evil stick evil Thaidakar and Thaidakar just is flaky in the evil doc so the rules ignorance is genuine despite evil honestly this is the only possible evil combo for Stick (plus whoever else for the extra evil) You know what Im going to speculate on evil this is a terrible idea I have to sleep soon oh well lets be evil So the main pool is The Unknown Novel xinoehp Bort Orlok and I definitely feel at least one of these is evil and honestly xinoehp could go in the 'feels alright but also I have amnesia and have no idea who you are' category all on their own but pool of evil Ok now the issue is The Unknown Novel could be a partner to any duo cause they ve been kinda gone for a while Im just going to ignore them for the purposes of duo speculation with the condition that any trio speculation off the duo has The Unkown Novel as an option Kinda the same issue with Thaidakar in the hypothetical elim world cause I have no memory of them and from what I do remember its really scattered so just add on Thaidakar with the conditional its unlikely unless Thaidakars as detached in the doc as in thread Ok so speculating all 30 remaining duo options is cancelled my eyes seem to have lost the ability to focus i can no longer see straight Im going to post this and get some eye drops wow this hurts bye

EDIT hi this thing glitched out Im not done with this Ill be back one sec Ok it should be fixed now that was weird my arrow keys stopped working and my enter key stopped working and suddenly it just posted hmm Kai sat at a specific table in the back of the tavern, nursing one drink and staring at the second one. They hadn't known Buffy too well. They hadn't even known her name. They almost felt guilty about that. Almost. It wasn't like they hadn't wanted to ask, but for some strange reason, they only met in dark corners of taverns and alleyways with old memories creeping up on them. The first time they met was in the dead of night. She was slumped against the wall of a house, staring at nothing. They had offered her a dried flower. It was the only thing they had in their pockets. She had laughed, and they offered her a drink at the nearby tavern. "Anything but wine," and they obliged. The next time they met was much the same, only with the roles reversed. They were the one with empty eyes, and she was the one with the flower. When they went to the tavern, they sat at the same table. They met a few more times, and she gave them a wooden stick. "For protection," she said as though a stick would do much at all. But they took it. Now it was all they had left of her besides rotting flowers. Ok Archer theres your sad lonely guy being sadder and lonelier because the sad lonely friend died I mean there could be a leak in the trust PM but unlikely also if he was soliciting votes from other people he might have been like "oh please switch with me to Striker" to an elim once and then they would have known Striker was up for the vote instead also yeah its a very weird kill why would someone switch to Archer last two minutes without consulting team preumably they had a planned kill already or maybe Archer was the planned kill back when the argument was TJ Striker and they forgot to swap off or had the strangel debacle where they all think someone else submitted the order Is this becasue I wouldnt give you the senior citizen discount on your movie tickets? Well Im keeping your money no refunds and you were being cagey honestly also your willingness to reveal to Orlok but not me makes me sad sad you dont deserve the senior citizen discount Why xinoehp? Yep @Orlok Tsubodai did Archer say or imply you were the only person he was trying to convince to vote Striker or was there an impression that he might be looking elsewhere cause if the latter the leak might be from them So basically schism between "yes bus" and "no bus" thoughts "yes bus" thoughts voted for either Archer or Striker (leaving Matrim notably not suspected hmmmmmm) "no bus" thoughts (me) voted TJ I still want to think TJs scummy honestly but Ill refrain theres some part of me suspecting TJ Matrim team even though I really trust Matrim (probably cause obvious attempt at making Arars vote seem not bus is obvious plus everyone feels so evil why does everyone feel evil) Also Orlok is doing very similar things to what I suspected TJ for and this is bugging me for some reason Ok so on the bus opinion this kill seems like a declaration of sorts saying 'this was not a bus' and I dont know if thats intentional but it sure sends a message so Im just going to give a peek at the opinions So the progression of the bus opnion kinda goes like this Archer mentions 'designated sacrifice' Matrim says dangerous speculation but thinks Striker as first voter would be the evil one in bus world Ok just a small thing Matrim says pure train TJ thinsk bus likely with evil stick thoughts See I really want TJ dead they just feel evil Archer thinks bus last minute decision Matrim could buy last minute bus So the progression goes from "pure train" to "yeah bus" and that bugs me an awful lot and I still want to kill TJ and I feel like thats an illogical stance here so evil people I have a proposition no one actually wants TJ dead except for my subconcious so TJ will not be voted off in a resaonable amount of time you could totally kill him and wouldnt be wasting a kill except honstly going with the logically confirmed good people would be better but please kill this guy (sorry TJ) or Stick actually they also feel so evil even though I am almost certain they are good (sorry Stick) Got to go now see you later have fun hopefully post fixed that was annoying

I get it but also Thaidakar feels very noraml its really too bad Thaidakar's normal is radiating evilness like strong perfume the fang is way better for elims than the exe besides bus credit and besides bus credit only really works if people dont think its a bus and if they meant to bus and I still dont think it was a bus in the first place honestly Yeah thaidakar and TJ mutually exclusive elims methinks only way it works out and honestly they feel so scummy I kinda want to say Thaidakar xor TJ elim (exclusive or by the way for non engineers) Ok but why would Araris do this if evil Striker that just makes Striker look funny also why doesnt this make Matrim look funny after all people have told me Araris usually stays on the person for C1 why did they move off specifically matrim (dont worry I dont really suspect Matrim there was a brief Tunnel with Friends but its pretty much caved in at this point just paranoia) I get this is a hmm thing to do it is why you killed him but is this any less wonky in the evil Striker universe does it really make sense I know its easy to say "oh this is weird so its evil" but does it make any more sense as evil I think not but if you think so please explain to a poor confused person Um you say oh I marked this as not good and evil and youre saying your reconsidering that so are you saying that it is good evil or did you misspeak Ok look I get the Stick vote now thanks really appreciate it but I think Ive dug myself into a tunnel on you that is only getting deeper mostly because I dont think its a bus Where we differ on Stick is that you think there was a bus they planned on a bus from the beginning and wouldnt go for an alternate even if it could avoid the bus and in that world yeah sure but... I dont think there was a bus and I dont think we can agree so long as we differ on that point which kinda sucks honestly you have interesting logic but its all founded on this one point of contention Ok let me think about the bus world so theres actually two bus worlds one planned from the start one getting credit last second in the first world this explains why Araris did that wonky vote switch then another world split either Stick was the perpetrator or Stick was the patsy if the perpetrator then yeah kinda by definition evil if the other then Archer or Striker come off looking worse. Other world branch the hopper Matrim Striker look worse Ok honestly this hasnt really done anything to change my mind on the bus point if youd like to talk me through why exactly you think theres a bus beyond just 'fang bad' Id appreciate it cause the fang is strictly better than the bus ignoring social bits In my world the non bus world Stick is basically confirned good cause if thye were evil just stay on Thaidakar. If evil Stick, then evil Thaidakar. However Thaidakar vote on Stick was what pushed them to danger zone in the first place. If evil Thaidakar then good stick. Stick good. Proof by contradiction. Probably commiting like three logic sins but oh well it made sense in my head Then since in this hypothetical world its not a bus the people pushing the bus theory are most suspicious (cough TJ cough) and then the trouble is the toher peole pushing the bus are the would be bussers which feels weird I also suspect TJ cause of their "oh Archer was plotting elim bits" point but then TJ was also plotting elim bits earlier and no one batted an eye so its kinda hypocritical at best so yeah Im sticking with TJ unless someone can truly convince me it was a bus besides theres probably at least one nonbusser in a bus world Ok now thinking abotu process of eliminating this cause given my assumptions theres a lot of good people to not think about Players rn are Thaidakar The Unknwn Novel xinoeph Matrim Orlok Amanuensis Archer JNV Striker Stick Bort TJ taking out Araris voters plus me leaves Thaidakar The Unknown Novel xinoehp Orlok Amaneusnis Bort TJ Taking out my good reads leaves Thaidakar The Unknown Novel xinoehp Bort TJ Taking out The Unknown Novel cause with 3-4 elims at least one besides Araris must been around leaves Thaidakar xinoehp Bort TJ Ordering from most to least evil is TJ Thaidakar Bort xinoehp At least one of these people is evil in any world and honestly I just dont really have much on Bort or xinoehp in a planned bus world maybe them but I dont know if its a planned bus world honestly I feel like Ive fallen deeper into the tunnel with the help of the shovel called logic and the other shovel called rational thought but theyre both liars secretly and theyre actually called logical fallacies and paranoia Im just going to go see you later have a good night Ill be around if someone has questions but for now bye

So the only question stick asked before TJ voted them was this (ok so copy quote box doesnt work sad) why specifically later? this doesnt feel performative it feels like a real question for actual elaboration on someones thoguht process also I asked in PMs and TJ didnt really say anything new there just repeated same old same old so like... hmm If Stick was evil they could have just stayed on Thaidakar so theyre good unless Thaidakar is also evil which... i mean they always feel evil but Id be down next cycle cause right now I kinda want you dead (sorry youre very cool but also you feel a bit evil bad vibes you know) How is thsi continuing distancing if theyre voting together Why are you saying 'bus' when youre takling about v Stick gtting dogpiled by a bunch of elims freudian slip much hmm (you mean crazy elim vote cause they would have voted together right) Again how does that bus post fit if theyre all evil it wasnt a bus Ok I get that youre sick but would appreciate reaoning when you feel better (even if its just "oh i agree with everyone else) I trust you but every word out of your motuh worsense the vibes ill be honest yeah the switch felt hmm but... didnt you want to live? Ok like I dont think the way the fang opinion was going implied any sort of C1 fang I get we had like 4-5 but thats not 7 and I dont feel the bus Archer started the Araris suspicion with timing that felt natural and good thoughts maybe Archer pocketed me but I like archer and would actively say 'let em live' Ok got to go for hours bye see you later have fun without me dont get too wild love you friendos

I mean if theres a reputation on the line I can kind of understand the thought but I just dont see it? Like it doesnt really feel like a bus unless Matrim's an elim which maybe but they kinda seemed invested in keeping Stick alive and seemed willing to flip flop on Thaidakar too so unless theyre also with Thaidakar theyre probably village. Striker and archer seemed to have good reasons Stick was trying to stay alive so if theres evil on the train its Matrim but theres probably not evil on the train this isnt the orient express Nonvoters The unknown Novel (wasnt here at all) you (wasnt here much) me (gone yesterday) Illwei (dead) Orlok (see they could have just stayed on but they didnt good look) Stick voters TJ (they stayed on Stick the whole time and didnt really have a good reason) Thaidakar (this guy is always hmm and honestly Id be down for this) Thaidakar voters: Bort xinoehp (thye feel really similar from what I remember both wanted Stick to live and were willing to vote out this guy feeling meh about them honestly Id be down to get them out just let me figure out the differences) So yeah conclusion kill a stick or Tahidakar voter Ok I know Stick basically has to be village at this point but... they feel so evil their aura is so menacing all the shivers down all the spines ya know Ok like if Thaidakar is evil then Stick is actually just a god good job Stick and honestly I kinda feel like Tahidakar is being normal but Thaidakars normal is just very evil like kinda like how Stick is radiating eau de mal right now TJ posts Anti C1 fang anti late fang Prefer actual vote over fang death C2 fang ish Mtarim miss rules Distance takes time Distance strategies Votes Stick for asking questions See they say its specifically cause its Stick doing it and sure maybe I diont know Stikc very well but... really? I want to be pointed to Stick only doing it as evil guy I want evidence I wan tcitations Hmmm out of ten Shades Archer for elim strategising when... just look at their previous posts man thats a lotta elim strategising sir also keeps going on Stick which is still hmm also shades xinoehp for grammar Hmm Stick hasnt done this as village before apparently ok where did they do it as elim please Im new I dont wanna go back through every game Sticks ever plaeyd to find it Also wait hold up Im looking back and I cant find Sticks "performative " question they had like two posts before TJs vote and they didnt really have questions except for one good question so like hmmmm Thaidakar just gut Archer thoughts So hmmm so very very hmmm I really dont like their stick vote at all Thaidakar posts "randomly chaotic" grrr I dont like random chaos for chaos's sake but its not really evil votes TJ for "no reason in particular" See this is what I mean by they radiate evil Votes Stick without reasoning But the problem is this behavior is all very normal for Thaidakar which is grrr Then says suspicious of Archre and Bort but doesn't vote them Llike try to tell me this behavior isnt anti village. Try Not paing attention and also doesnt get Kasimir's jokes Ok this isnt really evil but come on Kasimir's jokes were hilarious man like seriously Were you even paying attention? All reads are gut and sheep Joking Fang later Just.. everything about Thaidakar always rubs me the wrong way but thats normal for Thaidakar honestly and if they dont do that then theres cause for concern but until then just arrrgh Bort posts Fang soon yes now Want Fang soon Vote Tahidkaar Ok like this feels weird but also they arent elim unless Stick is an elim and Stick isnt an elim so... Just kinda eh xinoehp posts Fang soon not now Fang not crucial See a lot of people were like "hmm" on this but I like this post and agree Some reads no reasons They eviled Stick but later liked Stick hmm Bort good cause vibes TJ bad cause aggressino Hard disagree about aggression = evil but yeah TJ bad Left Araris out accident Suspicious Thaidkaar over Stick I mean I guess they were both in the "bad bucket" Also eh but less eh sligthly less evil than Bort Voting TJ @|TJ| what was the 'performative' question Stick asked and why did you keep thinking about this specifically instead of going elsewhere with your thoughts what exactly was so hmm about Stick Ok the popup at the bottom says thereve been like two new posts but Ive heard horror stories about refreshing and loosing everything so Im just going to post this and edit in replies to things if there are things to reply to if not last post of the night bye friends