JNV

Hm alvrons a weird kill like no one was really complaining about them but no one was diehard trusting them a shapr turn from the Kasimir kill and I guess I can see it cause people were kind of throwing suspicion everywhere but I feel like there was enough of a general consensus of trust on like silhouette nad maybe kind of xinoehp that Im not entirely sure why theyd go for Alvron wh ocould have been an emergency scapegoat or something I didnt get a chance to get on in the night so heres looking at the votes from d2 Stick votes Matrim no reason giveni niitially but justified as seeming stiff and inorganic in later post Wizard votes Bookwyrm for seeming coached Bookwyrm votes xinoehp fro... voting a villager? Vookwyrm retracts xnioehp upon receiving the slightest pushback if you cant tell from the tone this is a raised eyebrow sorta thing Wizard retracts Bookwyrm for not seeeming coached Bookwyrm votes Cinnamon for apparently the same rasoning as for xinoehp which is just gah and like everything about Bookwyrms tone hits wrong Silvereye votes Stick for a lot of blank votes and like fair but also like copout much but also lik Stick gives reasoning later and the vote stays so definitely more of a copout than an actually sincere vote which gets an eyebrow shadow votes Turtle for trying to seem like theyre solving without actually solving anything with the note to self posts but does say its more gut than sense Archivist votes Turtle and 'agrree with shadow' which is a little concerning considering shadows thing is gut and whatnot and theyve just been repreating stuff more than providing original thought Cinnamon votes Matrim for reasons that aparnetly exist but I cant really telll what theyre saying Illwei votes xinoehp to 'sort things out' which is the only thing sounding the alarm bells about Ilwlei like I like the contributiosn I like the reads I like everything but this one vote Wizard votes Stick for a really weird cheap reason of accidentaly mentioning Wizard as a person they didnt have a read on and simultaneously agrees about the Matrim read and notably this breaks the Stick Matrim tie in favor of killing Stick and like I could be confirmation biasing my way into a tunnel but just look at it Alvron votes Devotary for retracting that vote at the end which is in the elim playstyle for her apparently Cinnamon retracts Matrim cause the reasons were flimsy apparently wish I really knew what they were JNV votes Matrim for a really strange reads construction around xinoehp D1 and like this is my view I dont think Ill be able to extricate any objective reasoning from this xinoehp votes shadow for saying they would have killed Kasimir which is like honestly shadows a good elim I played with them evil theyre really smooth they wouldnt do that Novel votes Stick for not answering questions and I guess they just didnt read the reads post Matrim votes Cinnamon for weird progression and votes not alligning with stated opinions oh and by the way yes I originally started the post as just justifying my vote on you but decided hey whiel I have the time might as well do an overview post of all the players just in case Im overthinking it but yeah also checking changes between your reads lsits for verification purposes leanvs elim on Wizard but says apparently everyones been v reading them which really hadnt noticed Conquestor gets bumped down to null after low activity Illwei bumped down to null- because of opinions changing on xinoehp constantly shadow got slight village after actually showing up reads Danex village for some reason not reall ysure vllage reading xinoehp for the circumstances nothing rteally too hmm there but I dont know maybe its just my brain Novel unvotes Stick for finding that reads post Silhouette maintains the tie and votes Bookwyrm to 'turn up the temperature' Danex votes Stick saying agree with what others have said which amounts to one vote which has bee nsatisfied rasons wise and one vote that was nosnense to begin with but honestly not sure if theyd throw two evils on the same train but notably breaks the 4 way tie so hmm like if Matrim or Bookwyrm flip evil take a second look sorta hmm xinoehp votes Turtle I think to save Stick Illwei votes Stick to save Turtle Stick votes Turtle to save Stick Matrim votes Turtle I think Im feeling like the tiniest bit better about Matrim maybe possibly cuase I like their progression a bit on the ones they changed a bit on but Im not entirely sure why that makes me feel better but also like the evil broke the tie in Matrims favor for wierd reasons which is a bit eh and I think teh reread just made me feel more weird on Cinnamon Wizards posts D1 first post is just a joke I mean could be distancing with Bookwyrm doesnt really come off like that next post poke votes Turtle post after trying to pass off changes as intentional in an interaction that doesnt feel partnered with Silhouette so that reinforces my village read of Silhouette and then they unvote Turtle to just 'sit' which implesi a lack of elim urgency D1 whicg makes sense wide spread ties lot of nothing I woudlnt expect them to feel particularly threatened which kinda inforces my vilalge read of xinoehp N1 first post says dont effort clear Kasimir which is like I dont really see the point of this post D2 really a bad attempt at being upset at Kasimirs death reads list so they lean village on Cinnamon which hmm considering the so called evidence is a list of the things I kinda suspect Cinnamon for then votes Bookwyrm then unvotes Bookwyrm later then the Stick vote which is a really bad vote and like I dont see them doing this if they dont care see the whole D1 tie which makes me think theyre actively invested in Matrims life but like I feel like theyre also the type of person whod think 'oh I caught a lie here thats good' and just vote there even though it doesnt make any sense N2 Technically takls but doesnt really say much Basically I feel more certain about trusting Silhouette and xinoehp slightly better on Bookwyrm Im feeling worse on Cinnamon and just more confused on Matrim Now the issue with this cinnamon read is now Im just confused about their claim and its midnight here and Im tired so Im going to sleep Ill check in tomorrow the weekend maybe Ill have more or better thoughts then and if someone else killed Stick please please please speak up Im trying to justify this in my head

Ni sucuyi gar kyradyc ni partayli gar darasuum Kasimir you were the best PM buddy I had thanks for being there hope youre having a good time in the afterlife maybe one day youll have a chill RPful game you survive Hi sorry for not getting on yesterday something came up also warning from future JNV I wrote this post in two chunks like five hours apart so some posts came through in that time and made some of my points wonky so if you see something like that its probably teh time gap sorry So Ill be hoenst everyone is just a blob of confussion Im having a hard time reading beyond instinctual suspicions sorta thing and those are worse than useless so Im just going through by player seeing anything interesting if I dont include a post either it had nothign or I just missed it Matrim So D1 I feel like theyve been talking a lot but not saying much and that feels weird like theyve been very quippy and the first real substance thing they say is they like Silhoeuttes effort but also arent ruling out the elim possibility of it thats a bit noncommital and like their reads list I mean I appreciate the reads list but almost all of theri definite reads are in the context of xinoehp with the exception of the person they voted on silvereye and like very little justification and very wobbly for any non ixnoehp connection like their bookwyrm read is they seem friendly but could have been coached like that entire post reads as set dressing for the xinoehp vote like the variants just feel a bit out of charater and its just... everything they had in that post is about xinoehp except fro the fringes like this doesnt feel like Matrim actually trying to read people this feels like Matrim justifying a xinoehp vote and I know you said you didnt have time to switch and you lampshade this at the end by saying theres no time to determine the veracity of the xinoehp characterization but like Kasimirs whole thing debunking the xinoehp case was half an hour befroe rollover you were interacting with them and presumably reading their posts you had time to evaluate that argument and see if you agreed so its not like theres no time to debunk its not like theres no way for you to get the information you want the information is there and waiting and gah even at the night you say youre not sure about the mischaracterization point well why not look into it you had the time you had the ability you had all the work done for you already by Kasimir like everything you needed was there for you and even now youre like 'stance on xinoehp' and like Im probably biased at this point but I dont see why you need to ask everyone that just lets people who care about xinoehps life hide in the masses you could just make your case and go with that plus you have this reversal on Conquestor where in your D1 reads list you were saying you liked the xinoehp vote and the friendliness and stuff and now yourel ike 'Ill suspect you for being quiet last turn' they werent really that active in the first place they had one post day 1 like I dont even know and Ive spent like ten minutes typing up this big long paragraph that people probably arent going to read in the fifrst place gah Wizard Ok like I think they genuinely confuse me cause my radar parctically always goes off for them but I dont know if thats in response to them or in response to their voting style plus theres this huge tonal shift between the first cycle and this turn but its a good shift I think a good change so setting aside for now Conqeustor Hasnt said much talked like twice and Im not really getting an impression either way their vote on xinohep feels more jokey than anything and beyond that they dont seem to be having many opinions Novel Has talked a lot but not said much of anything at all and they always feel scummy to me which is normal but also I am never opposed to their death Illwei Honestly you feel very different but I dont really know what that difference means like youve talked a lot more but you havent said much if you take out all the contradictory things but Im feeling ok about you maybe not about your opinions but just about you Silhoette Ive had some confusion tonally cause like I think the sort of person they are will always hit my radar youre just too nice I guess but play wise I dont see an evil person doing what they did at D1 end of turn like if you are evil I really want to know what you were thinking there but that sort of panic combined with the weird vote thing that happened doesnt feel fake so I guess this is my highest trust which feels really weird Cinnamon Theyve talked but they havent really said anything at all but I really dont like their reasoning for voting Matrim and oop update from future JNV they did retract which makes me feel something not sure exactly what but something shadow I dont like that vote but thats morep hilosophical than anything Ill accept life reasons for now but I kinda expect more from them maybe my expectations are too high but they just havent been around Archivist Just sorta feels new kind of coming out of their shell now but well see how they progress Silvereye Hasnt really existed just sorta there dont really know about them Danex Honestly it never really matters what they say cause Im just going to confirmation bias my way into suspecting them every time but surprisingly I dont really want them dead yet like they ahvent said anything I really disagree with they havent been too tonally weird just a little weird but not that weird and like I dont trust them at all but I would be willing to keep them around which is weird hohnestly xinoehp Ok I know xinoehps been kinda the focal point of this but of the things theyve actually said theres really not much tehres some facetious comments theres some suspicion of Illwei which is kind of expected given you know the whole case against them sorta thing but they feel fine Deovtary Honestly I dont see evil Devotary voting and unvoting Ashbringer last second to maintain the tie and if thats part of the evil plot then oh well my bad plus I can never really read them tehy just feel the same Bookwyrm Everything about their tone hits weird their Kasimir vote hit weird their Ashbringer vote hit weird like every step of the way it feels like they go against the grain and culture shock can only excuse so much you knwo but then again not sure how much evil would care about the xinoehp Ashbringer vote so Im putting them on the shelf for later inspection but like flagged or something cause its mostly tone right but its also just kind of how their opinoins and their actions dont really line up Turtle Not much to go offo f really I mean tonally I feel a bit iffy on them and their reads list is just a bit simplistc with little to no justifications attached Stick I mean I like what theyve been saying I dont like the blank votes theyve been doing Im too tired to figure them out Ill do more rigorous analysis tomorrow generally positive vibes though Alvron Kind of mixed bag cause like they didnt really do much D1 and their Devotary conclusion feels weird but I do like their xinoehp conclusion so just sorta marked for later I think you can tell by the paragraph length but Matrim I just feel like the immediate focus on xinoehp and how its stuck around doesnt feel organic but if someone wants to talk me around to Bookwyrm before the turn ends I mean you can try but Ill be at school so good luck good night Im going to sleep its late Im tired you can ask questions if you want but dont expect me to asnwer before the turn ends bye bye

Hi Ive borrowed a hotsopt to get on dont expect long thoughts Im kinda writing this at school so Oh ok my bad for missing that um it doesnt really make you look too much better honestly at least in my head maybe objectively it helps but I dont know if it makes me feel better about you if that makes sense I forgot rollover happens while Im at school sorry and I couldnt get on the night before probably would have ended up voting one of my always suspicions like Danex or Novel while protesting the cotton candy nothingness of the vote trains going on and being like 'well its a useless vote but its a vote with actual stuff behind it' but oh well didnt happen Look you dont clear Kasimir for putting in effort you clear Kasimir for being Kasimir and just having the nice vibes and stuff like Im going to trust Kasimir in every game just cause thats how my brain thinks kinda like how Ill suspect Novel and Danex in every game and eighty percent of the time Ill be vindicated on Kasimir and the other twenty Ill vow to adjust my thought processes but wont cause next game Ill just end up trusting them agian besides like the thought of effort clearing someone is just kinda weird inherently like I know the ideal villager puts in effort and tries and stuff but just look at a normal villager that doesnt really happen effort is a way of life not an alignment indicator and strongly deviating from normal amounts of effort is the indicator not the effort in and of itself Im going to go now I just wanted to respond to stuff peole were saying cause theres a high chance I wont be able to get on again before rollover if you ask me something in the the next hourish I might be able to respond beyond that probably not class exists you know bye now good luck

...well I guess I didnt get the chance to vote huh sorry about that I couldnt get on yesterday night and rollover happens while Im at school Let me just take a quick look at the votes see if my complaitn from middlish last turn holds true Kasimir votes Devotary as a pooke Silhouette votes Novel as what Im kinda assuming is a joke Novel votes Novel as a joke Ashbringer votes Cinnamon as a poke Matrim votes Silvereye as a poke Wizard votes Bookwyrm as a joke Bookwyrm votes Ashbringer out of what Im assuming is culture shock Matrim votes Wizard no reasaon given Devotary votes Conquestor as a poke Stick votes Alvron as a poke Conquestor votes xinoehp for being more chatty and also kind of as a joke I guess I just missed the joke last read through Cinnamon votes Ashbringer as retaliation Silvereye votes Matrim as retaliation Kasimir votes Ashbringeer no reason given at the time later justified as seeing what the newbies would do when their vote option became the leading train Stick votes Novel no reason given Wizard votes Turtle as a poke Silhoutte votes Illwei for not making sense which kind of doesnt make sense and like unrelated but I just noticed I cant see that really dark red on my computer like I pulled it up on my phone and its fine but on my computer it just doesnt Im assuming its my moniter but wow Danex votes Matrim as what I think is a joke Kasimir votes Bookwrym for staying on Ashbringer which is counter to standard enw player meta apparently Silvereye unvotes Matrim Bookwyrm votes Kasimir as retaliation and for weird constant vote changing which I want to read the best of and assume culture shock but also like not really no Silhouette unvotes Illwei cause they didnt really know why they did it in the first place which fair Stick votes Silvereye no reason given Ashbringer votes Bookwyrm for what Im assuming is the dislike of changing your vote around Silhouette votes Ashbringer to break the very big tie that wasnt actually tied cause of some missed votes Matrim votes xinoehp cause apparently xinoehp has like a format or something that Illwei pointed out xinoehp votes Ashbringer to live Silhouette unvotes Ashbringer and like given what they say its cause they started to suspect xinoehp but then like why not vote xinoehp to lock it in and why apologize ok maybe theyre that sorta person but like theres nothing wrong with changing your mind it doesnt need a whole big breakup speech Wizard unvotes Turtle Bookwyrm votes Ashbringer which I feel ilke has an implied reason that Im just not getting here Ashbringer votes xniioehp to live Kasimir votes xinoehp cause they didnt argue against Illweis argument abou the format thing which they do acknowledge is a weak argument and true but like why wouldnt evil xinoehp be even more motivated to argue against something like this you know like just cause youd expect people to do the logical things doesnt mean the illogical thing is the evil thing Kasimir unvotes xinoehp Silhouette tries to vote xinoehp but failsc ause you gotta have new votes in a new post I think for chronology Devotary unvotes Ashbringer Ok like I get it was D1 but this is kinda... like the so called case against Ashbringer was a retalation vote that stuck around a vote that I just dont understand at all like they say its gut and I dont like that like I dont consider gut a strong enough reason to kill someone but that might just be my crippling selfdoubt talking and theres a vote for self pres and an unintentional reasonless vote like I dont know about you but as far as I remember cases on D1 are usually weak not nonexistent Plus the 'case' against xinoehp that had like the semblence of reasoning behind it was an incorrect assumption about xinoehps playstyle a half joke half early D1 fun times vote and a self pres and the thing I really dont get that bugs me a tiny bit is Matrim was interacting with Kasimirs argument about how the xinoehp case was dependent on a blatantly wrong assumption while voting on xinoehp for that blatantly wrong assumption and then just didnt retract or mention this or justify their continued vote like whats going on there So conclusions off of the vote Silhouette looks kind of ok off that cause theres no real reason whyd evil them would value xinoehp dead over Ashbringer if Ashbringers village honestly Bookwyrms arguments and stuff are kind of hitting wrong a bit but Im leaning towards benefit fo the doubt with new player and culture shock and such like Im not negating the raised eyebrow just setting it aside for now I talked about Matrim abovve like that sorta hits wrong too and like what I kinda think was weird about this D1 was how sticky the votes were like a lot of early votes just stuck around a lot of retaliation votes just lingered a lot of joke votes that just hung around its kinda weird I think Im going to sleep early today if you want to catch me ping me in the next like fifteen minutes or Ill be asleep good night sleep tight bye bye

Ill save you the time then Do the votes right now rub anyone else the wrong way cause like the leading train weve got culture shock retaliation and Kasimir and most of the votes are reasionless or jokes or nonsense except Conquestor thanks Conquestor really appreciate you and I think Ive finally gotten ovre my instinctual suspicion of you problem LIkie goin through the votes in roder we got poke joke joke poke poke culture shock poke poke poke joke actually justifiable reason thanks Conquestor retaliation retaliation poke Kasimir doing things for kasimir reasions blank vote like I dont think its necessarily unresasonable for D1 but the volume of blank or otherwise meaningless votes just feels a bit wobbly honestly kinda symptomatic of the social mood we got going on here like theres RP which is great Im very pro RP theres banter which is also great nad funny and such and thats about it like were just sorta vibing and thats cool too I feel like given my statements in the previous paragraph thats my cue to make a vote thats not poke or banter but I feel like anything I do with that would just be my ingrained suspicion against The Unknown Novel so Im going to hold off but I want to start voting more so if I dont vote and its near end of the cycle try to hold me to that please thanks Atelos the wanderer found a relatively clear spot and sat. Far enough from the buildings to not get any accusations of loitering, but not near the roads. A good place for contemplating while staring at the ashfall. If they really tried, they could probably slip out of the town. It would take cleverness and cunning, both of which they had abandoned along with their old name, but they could. It wasn't like the guards would chase them after they made it far enough, and besides, they weren't defenseless. It could be done. They didn't move. Maybe they were tired of running. So fast and so far and for what? For a few more days of a life they were wasting? For a few more days of ash and dust? Atelos didn't believe in redemption, in making up for sins. Sins just drag you down until you stop fighting against the noose you wove yourself. They could run, but running only carries you so far without a place to run to. Running only carries you so far before your legs give out. Maybe it was time to stop running. Maybe it was time to live. Maybe it was time to die.

The townsfolk gathered, summoned by the call of Lord Penrod. The wanderer walked on. They were not involved in these affairs. In fact, they had intended to leave this place that very night. Too much danger for their tastes. But it seemed that now they would be entangled in that danger. They had tried to leave the town just minutes ago, only to be blocked by spears and stone faces. No, there would be no escape for the wanderer this night, nor any other. They had run far from their sins, but it seemed that they would soon face the fall for someone else’s. Perhaps it was fate’s way of ensuring justice would be done. Atelos, they were called, a name of their own devising. Without purpose. Fitting enough for someone who had abandoned theirs. They had been someone great once. Now they were a wanderer, following what little remained of their heart. But every trail ends eventually. This town was as fitting a place as any, which is to say not at all. But no one chooses their grave. Maybe this could be their redemption. Or their damnation. Atelos the wanderer walked on hi hello there its good to see some new faces welcome welcome welcome Now before we get started I just want to say that Im strongly anti poke vote as a concept because it allows for the perception of effort without actually doing anything and just fills the hall with meaningless noise but no judgement if you do it I know its a good way to feel like youve contributed and besides it gives the stab votes a smokescreen for pretending to be meaningless noise to see how people react to things like that Basically you can if you want the red looks nice and throwing knives is fun but you dont have to just sorta exist you know just be around youll get a feel for it soon but by the looks of your other post you kind of agree with me about poke votes so reject the noise and listen to the silence @Araris Valerian do spiked win at parity or outnumber I cant find it in the rules also is the tineye message an action or no and also in the rules theres this set of two clarifications thats confusing me one says two or more riots on the same target cancel the other says multiple riots use RNG could you clarify here thanks

Hi hello Im joining as Atelos

Hi hi hi good to be here kinda forgot about this for a bit sorry Ive been trying to not automatically read weird or blatantly anti village behavior as evil indicative but hoestly Danex but on the bright side Im not instantly reading Conquestor as evil for no reason hm pretty quiet honestly I want to vtoe Danex for the blantnatly antivillage mentality and suhc but it doesnt really read evil it just reads I do what I want philosophy but none of the other vote candidates have any merit and if I vote outside itd just tie and Id probably end up on Danex at the end to break a tie so Ill just put it on Danex for now and come back when more people say things that seem significant partially out of protest against poke votes partially because I just cant look at that reasoning and think the person doing that is mtoivated to help the village Ill respond if someone PMs me but I probably wont PM everyone in a game where a major mechanic is getting action blocked if you PM too much and I might not be able to get on tomorrow cause schoool exists so yeah well see what happens

Stick oh wow stick honestly didnt think youd pull it off and it was so close so really really close but STICK YOU DID IT Im so proud of you I was worried when you went on an antisolo arc but you did it you did it you did it yay also dont apologize you won so it was obviously a genuis move we mortals couldnt understand now if youd lost it would have been a differnt matter but you won you didd it hooray three cheers for Sitck hip hip hooray hip hip hooray hip hip hooray

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Am I the only one who just doesnt get why Shqueeves was on the table at all cause like Silhouette had good and bad and thats why it was confusing Stick was eh but not incredibly weird and thats why it was confusing but Shqueeves just didnt seem to have good or bad I dont really get it like I read Kasimirs post about it a few times I dont know Ok i know these ideas arent mutually exclusive but they feel mutually exclusive cause there was a push on Shqueeves on the end there but if Stick is village theres no motive for that so the only location for evils would be at the beginning but the problem with that is I think Ill just always diehard trust Kasimir thats a problem and Im working on it and look Silhoeutte feels weird but tone is hard and I dont feel like weird tone is evil tone necessarily if anything itd be well not reverse but at least orthagonal and I think I havent bee npaying enough attention to the game honestly I feel lost and its just night 2 and Silhouette is just out there like opinions I dont agree with conclusions I wouldnt draw but Im also trying to work on not voting off everything weird cause weird isnt always evil and theres merit to village Silhoeutte but I dont know Two worlds one with evil on Shqueeves one without So in the world without evil on Shqueeves that clears everyone there plus kind of implies the evils didnt care about the vote which implies village Stick The pool of everyone not on Shqueeves is Novel Stick Conquestor Symphonian Turtle Illwei Taking out Stick for previously mentioned reasons so then its Novel Conquestor Symphonian Turtle Illwei I dont really see Illweis xinoehp vote in an evil Illwei world same iwth Conquestors xinoehp vote so it becomsee Novel Symphonian Turtle the people who are just blobs of confusion in my head So in the world with evil on Shqueeves it kind of implies evil Stick cause otherwise why care but Ill split it into two worlds So world where Stick is evil and has a teammate on Shqueeves the Shqueeves voters are Matrim Wizard Silhouette Kasimir based on Matrims xinoehp interactions I dont see it and honestly I could feel similarly about Silhouette but the way silhouette thinks seems very different from the way I think so erring on the side of caution and leaving them in and like 2 hours before rollover D1 Kasimir was online a vote count was fresh the three way tie was obvious and no effort is made not even a preference for a theoretically evil Stick over the one shot kill xinoehp so thats out leaving Wizard and Silhouette and Ill look at those later too In the world where Stick isnt evil and theres evil on Shqueeves honestly the same argumnets apply to Matrim and Kasimir i guess this split was useless oh well so just ignore the split Symphonians just sorta not around so Im ignoring them lets see what replacs them The Unknown NOvel well I dont really know theyre just sorta there but I dont like their recent statement about Silhouette not that I disagree cause I agree somewhat but the way they just mention the Kasimir argument wahtever especially coming after Kasimirs good rebuttal seems like its sorta riding coattails if you know what I mean saying something easy to say just to seem like youve said something and overall they havent said much at l Turtle has been seeming weird but weirdly active honestly and kinda feels like Silhouette a bit like talking perpendicularly sorta thing like skew lines not paralel but never touching either but also nothing like Silhouette just kinda simiar by being different from what I expect but they also havent done anything vote wise honestly so leaning kind of hmm for them but like theyve been trying thats nice thats good I feel like thats a good change With Stick well Stick feels less wobbly but still just a bit but I think its time to broaden the pool of evil especially given how xinoehp death implies low active team like I think Id vote them before Silhouette but theyre not my first choice tomorrow Wizard well Wizard says a lot of things and doesnt say why and that bugs me but they do that as village too but also I dont know if Ive encountered evil Wizard honestly dont know Silhouette well weve talked about silhouette a lot and honestly the xinoehp vote has me somewhat convinced ish maybe in them as not evil probably so basically my mind says probably vllage my heart is protesting If anyone has potency blessing maybe take a shot at Novel or Wizard the complete black boxes or maybe dont so we can make them waste any protection they have or do it or dont confuse them make it hard to tell I mean Im kinda against deciding who were voting the night before out of principle to leave ourselves open to more options and reevaluation to make sure we dont let evils hide in the vote by just clumping on a guy but Im ok with The Unknown Novel as an option to vote on

Hi Im writing this quickly on mobile cause Im out on a school thing for the rest of today and wont be able to get on sorry so Im just quickly going to respond to questions to me and I cant figure out how to get lots of quotes on mobile so just line by line Illwei I dont think it makes you evil itd be a weird evil move its just weird and youre actually feeling smooth this game Kasimir I didnt vote in that post cause I fell asleep at my keyboard and woke up at like 1 and decided Id just post what I have and I didnt really touch on the votes cause Matrims was just spice on a question and yours had nothing to argue against its a reasonable vote Conquestor you dint have to change your style for me I need to just get used to it So on to what I came on for the vote I consider Silhouette a no go for mostly the same reasons as everyone else plus Im trying to separate weird behavior and evil behavior and I dont think theyd be talking about how theyd look bad as evil Shaueeves doesnt really seem like anything like I dont really have a feeling one way or another I woildnt be incredibly shocked if theyre evil but not from what theyve done so far Turtle well I feel like Turtles a bit more present then usual but I dont want to punish a player for a positive shift and besides it doesnt feel evil per se just different now Stick of all the people Sticks been the wobbliest and its kind of the Silhouette vote thats sealing it for me like not even bothering to consider the logistics of evil Silhouette just throwing the vote down and the only thing making me hesitate is the lack of self pres but tentatively Stick and now I have to go bye bye see you next turn

Did you not read my post Stick argued Araris was overexplaining cause explaining is an inherent part of SE but also saying Illwei not explaining is theri MO and laso saying Araris wasnt explaining enough and it just felt disingenouous and I didnt really like any of the other vote options cause all of them felt like they were just existing instead of targeting strange behavior oh I think thats whats wrong with my evildar it detects weird behavior but weird isnt necessarily evil ok note to future self recalibrate that Hi sorry I had like four tests this week and havent really had a ton of time to get on but anyway a lot of the votes for xinoehp just feel sorta there like they dont really have anything behind they they dont really have any support like Silhouette said it was just a why not sorta thing you wanted Araris to live Araris was trying to live Conquestor was trying to have a signifiicant vote instead of voting on an actual suspicion and I notice that Novel suspicion just dropped off hmmmmmmmm and Illwei well I never get Illwei and besides those last second votes felt really unnecessary honestly like the guy was already dead was there really no better place to put that vote no thinking about suspicions no substance just toss on a vote on a dead guy Conquestor feels slimy off that but they always feel slimy I dont know why and honestly my brain is just mush right now and everyone is a blob of confusion sorry I havent really been paying a ton of attention to the game Ummmm no? His vote change was like five hours before my post I dont know about you but five hours is a long time to be typing up a post and not checking on any replies in the meantime Ok time to actually get a handle on the people in the game heres the living non me people Matrim I mean my main sticking point with them is how they voted xinoehp out of 'save Araris' thoughts but didnt say why Stick or The uNknown Novel were lelss good cause of all the options xinoehp had actually no reasoning behind it and that bugs me and then willfully abandon their case against Kasimir which appeared to be founded in some level of reason for a useless vote on xinoehp again like they were already going to die what did that vote even do but tonally and thought process wise beyond xinoehp they feel pretty smooth I think Ive ended upw with my tpical default on them of vaguely positive feelings Novel I mean I always end up suspecting Novel its a bit of a thing but they havent done anything Id consider actually evil but also they havnt done anything Id consider actually good so I guess null but also just confused Wizard just feels like cotton candy honestly lots of fluff but when you rinse it out its all gone a bit of presence a bit of comedy but like they havent done anything Stick honestly not over Sticks whole Araris case but most of their stuff has seemed decent Shqueeeves is kinda like Wizard theyve existed but when you really look at it theyve done absoluely nothing Conquestor for some reason I always end up suspecting Conqeustor dont know why nothing against you youre a lovely person it just happens I feel like your Matrim case is a bit overstated but thats not really an evil thing Silhouette I think the way silhouette thinks about the game and the way I think about the game are kind of different and that dissonance is confusing me Symphonian honestly forgot they were playing this game um let me go look at what theyve been doing ok they havent done anything cool cool cool Kasimir I kind of just always trust Kasimir and thatll probably come back to bite me some day but honestly cant see their actions as evil Kasimir cause theyd probably be at least a little more careful Turtle seems to have a weird idea of what distancing is and the way they said that the thing isnt alignment indicative or anything and is just info when its stuff anyone could have gotten its just cotton candy again and its probably my faulty evildar here giving me bad vibes but theres just some weird vibes Illwei Ive actually been feeling pretty good about Illwei this game which is kinda weird honestly but oh well theyve been contributing theyve been helpful relatively content to just let it sit On one hand Shinings tone and stuff pings my evildar like crazy on the other hand I thought that last time I played with them and they feel kinda the same and I can kinda understand their worldview if I squint maybe possible on the thirds ecret hand its Stick pointing it out and I dont think I can get over stick on the fourth hand I cant get on tomorrow I have a school thing on the fifth hand I am actually falling asleep case in point I fell asleep two hours ago in a chair and just woke up so Im just generally useless right now Ill see if I can get on tomorrow well see

Hi hi hi sorry I missed yeseterday I was at a school thing and the wifi there blocks the shard hi Ok so none of the beginning votes make sense to me maybe thats cause Im really tired today but it just seems like a lot of nothing in response to nothing and like The unknown Novels thoguhts kind of rub me the wrong way but they always do that and Id honestly be more suspicious if they didnt and I feel like Sticks vote on Araris for saying why explaining happens is weird cause one explainning is good two Araris doesnt do that a lot from what I remember like dont they do the sorta stabby stabby no sadi resasons but secret mental reasons thing like they did that their first vote and all explaining things is out of character for them so if your vote was retaliation for their vote on you just say that you dont have to dress it up and Wizards vote on Araris now feels like them but also slimy I think theyre just one of the people Ill always find slimy I guess so time to look for a good choice All the votes cast so far Matrim for Wizard said in post to be for poking in but not actually saying anything The Unknown Novel fro Matrim to tie it which honestly fits the profile but just grrr Kasimir for Stick no rason given Illwei for The uNknown Novel no reason givn Araris for Matrim no reason given Sillhouette for xinoehp no reason given Conqeustor for The Unknown Novel for actively seeking ties and I know this did tie it but like I dont think thats a strong motive so early in the cycle and if you dont vote on your suspicions cause of ties then no one will ever vote on your suspicions and yeah its funny but not evil or anything xinoehp for wizard no reason given Illwei for Araris no rason given Araris for Stick no reason given Stick for Araris for needing to clarify why explaining and I kinda addressed this in that big paragraph up top but like Araris doesnt explain things explaining is abnormal for them pushing against it just seems kinda wierd like yeah expalnation isnt normal you said its normal then you say Illweis MO is not explaining things like you cant argue both ways well you can but then youre fighting yourself Shqueeves for Conquestor for the tie thing and for getting RP names mixed up and this reasons kinda weak honestly but at least the reasoning exists Wizard for Araris no reason given Kasimir votes Matrim for making strange claims presumably wanting an explanation but technically nothing stated and honestly kinda agree with Matrim about the weirdness of the immediate retaliation vote considering the recent orange thing and my perceived uselessness of a question with a vote vs jsut a question Shqueeves gets off Conquestor Matrim votes xinoehp for lack of better options I guess which is kinda weird cause the only vote for xinoehp is a no reasons given and xinoehp hasnt really done much I mean they said they kinda agreed with Stick so maybe thats why So in conclusion Stick Ok now time for RP JenVee sat at a workstation, hammer and chisel held in hand. They had received a fascinating request for a True Body. Instead of the crystal so popular among the Second Generation, this customer wished for a body made of stone. Instead of beauty, this body would be optimized for durability. Of course, such a design brought up questions about what the body would be used for, but JenVee was not paid to contemplate. They were paid to create. Crystal required a delicate hand, and the slightest of errors would ruin a piece. Stone required great force and precision to make the slightest mark. This body had required an entirely new set of tools, and they could not carve in bas relief as they would have liked. Perhaps given more time to grow accustomed to the tools and the stone, they could have wrought their signature patterns, but the completed True Body was requested as soon as possible, and it would be wrong of them to delay a customer for their pride. They wrapped each piece separately to avoid scratches and began drafting a message to their customer concerning the completion of the work.

Hi I guess Ill go with the theme and be JenVee

....dont know how I missed that but ok I dont think I can believe in it even though I kind of want to if that makes sense like its too much I mean considering youre up on the chopping block if youre good killing someone in the pool might help in numbers if not in time and if youre evil youd want to get that kill off anyway but could you possibly heir it to me so a son of feanor can make use of it post mortem But Im voting you now so you dont have to listen to me Matrim It really comes down to pseudoconfirmed Finwe Kasimir basically confirmed Feanor Symphonium honestly probably not Noble Melkor Shining plus I cant see evil Devotary taking on a fancy tone in C1 and dropping it immediately C2 upon conversion or just as Melkor so if you want to take out The Unknown Novel or Devotary on your way out to save us agonizing confusion and vote manipualtion to tie to loss risk thats up to you I have a lot of school work tonight so ping me if you need me cause I wont be watching the page

Protected Symphonum and made Archer a shield which I guess is just loose in the wild now if anyone wants a shield let me know So as far as I can tell the public claims of the lviing people right now are Sailor The Unknown Novel but down a life Finwe Kasimir Feanor Symphonium son of Feanor smith me with no claims from shining or Matrim I mean I guess Matrim apparently claimed to Kasimir in PMs but thats not public and I think Devotary claimed son of feanor do any of you want to bring up what you are My heart is telling me to go for Shining but my brain is telling me thats just cause their tone pings my evildar for some reason and analysis should be done but its two in the morning so Im going to sleep and Ill be on at rollover dont worry hopefully Ill have time to do actual thoughts night night

I gave mysyelf a shield and in hindsight that wasnt the best of decisions gamewise but I was kinda just thinking in terms of action utility there

Hi Im a smith son of feanor I was goin to give Kasimir a shield but fi theyre Finwe that wont really help so who wants it also I know two isnt enough to actually do regression but maybe double roles are just sons of feanor psosibly perhaps if so thatd make me feel better about life the univrse and everyrthing cause Im already at the point where I want everyone dead except me and thats usually the point I get at when its late game honestly I think I overestimated both my brains ability to think and my lifes ability to give me chunks of time to use my brains limited thinking juice so yeah The issue Im running into right now is most of the people pinging my evildar dont make sense as Melkor or even as evil honestly and I dont trust anyone enough to really say I wont vote them and I dont really suspect anyone enough to really say I will and maybe its the conversion bit of it but I really dont know and of the people who havent calimed anything really Id say Matrims more likely to be Melkor just by ostensibly seeming normal but thats also a horrible reason to vote someone so if you want to vote me out go ahead just who wants the shield

No jewel Im not Fifth but heres the thing people can have two roles and when I asked fifth about if Melkor could I got a PAFO so... yeah we cant trust roleclears entirely On the topic of confirmable role actions Im assuming Archer did the Araris vote thing unless anyone wants to counter that The issue with analysis of the first cycle is everyones alone so all actions kinda have the same motivation of find and vote suspicious looking people while also not looking too suspicious to stay alive longer so Im just going to look at it by notable player and give mostly wobbled thoguhts of a tired brain The Unknown Novle is funnily enough just an unknown that Ill always suspect and Im trying to figure that out honestly but for now just a blob of confusion but do note that theyre not a great conversion target Shining Silhouette has felt wobbly cause of the shifting votes but honestly I dont feel like they fit my constructed profile for Melkor which might not be a great way to go suspicion wise honestly Conquestors whole save dan+ex thing seems unMelkorlike Ok going to sleep now bye

Would you be willing to go for Shining Silhouette for vote volitility and no reasons to be found

Hi Im cancelling my PM everyone plan cause I just dont have time to sustain that many meaningful conversations but if you want to chat Im happy to respond So heres some posts that exist and made my brain spin See like this inherently just pulls at my instinctual suspicion but like I just dont see the only evil guy behaving like this like The Unknown Novel is always susupciious to me but not deliberately antagonistic towards the masses as far as I recall so not so much a trust as a 'I have no idea why youd do this as evil especially in this game' thing Sorta the same feelings as with The Unknown Novel defnitely pings the evildar but I dont get it This rings false on eperson displays abnormal for them inherently suspicious behavior gets a trust one person displays normal expected but also inherently suspicious behavior gets a vote it just feels contrived honestly the question bit feels normal though its just the last bit and how its framed as 'heres something good heres something bad' when its just the same wobbles What does NFC mean I think Devotary was joking I mean tonally it was funny to me all the definitelys and such thrown in you know and yeah thats exactly my rule analysis I throw something togteher at midnight saying what people should do before I sleep Im a parking lot now thats cool never been one of those before Well its almost rollover hows that role anlaysis coming along ................................huh You wanna toss any items my way before you get murdered? My planned response to this goes out the window cause of the claim so one sec let me get some thoughts on that Heres the thing heres the thing heres the thing having a role doesnt confirm anything cause you can have more than one Also dan+ex for living cause I do want to live but in a more ideal world Id be voting for someone who ahsnt said anything yet or is just floating by

Something strange was on the wind, a hollow, a space where peace should have been. Every step felt wrong beneath their feet. Something was wrong. Something was very, very wrong. Short RP because brain tired but hi hello time for rules thinking Melkor one conversion means iimmune to ties plus weird smith powers utility of converted person must be weighed against action economy cause the kill uses same action slot as make item or convert plus the kill only has 40% chance of blocked so no kill probably means conversion or intentional misleading from Melkor for paranoia and a bit of time to make actions or something Finwe the Silmarils honestly odnt seem especially great so just dont be too trusted I guess walk the narrow line al confirmed goods walk of try not to get voted but also try not to get killed which is kind of the same line everyone walks but a bit narrower also sorry you cant make PMs thats unfortunate for you oh by the way Ill be making a PM one on one with everyone tomorrow its really late today but tomorrow exists isnt that great so yeah Feanor oh by the way just note to self named rolles probably are just the one guy this guys basically master smith he can do all the things hes cool I guess one way to do it is propagate Fell Swords to themself and just use them as item action and role action wait hold up @Fifth Scholar is the once per game thing for Feonor and sons on Fell swrods per person or per sword also shields are good maybe consider those if the infinite swords trick doesnt pan out oh wait right theres a two thing limit um hey Fifth is there a way to discard items or do you just end up hanging on to them Son of Feanor honestly great at murder but now that the group PMs an anonymous thing its less good for accountability Fingolfin pretty cool guy keeps people from being Melkored just sorta bounce between your trusts I guess Galadriel dont know how good the item scan really is I mean sure Melkor can make things but so can Feonor and msiths and stuff Smith honestly do what you want shield only gives 40% coverage @Fifth Scholar is that percent cummulative and if so how the other stuff is kinda ish like helm gives one time sword protection and theft protection but if you have the helm and one other tiem youve got the limit already like how valuable is keeping and using that vs having something else and the trinkets are cool but making them is a gamble Sailor youre a tough guy thats cool live long and prosper Noble now the thing with the noble is its passive from the wording so no matter what they just get one off so any vote off is either apssive noble or jewel Orator makes nonvoters vote so made useless if everyone just voted be on the lookout cause I think its the only way to add votes check if Im wrong its really late here Im tierd Messenger is PM life role be careful with the spying cause it maes them immune to future spying @Fifth Scholar is it the entire PM from the starrt of the game or something like start of the cycle and are cycles marked in whatever transcript thing Ok time for item thoughts Shield keeps protected from gtting blocked plus maybe from murder two people with shield rotate off for great defense Helm prevents anything messing with your tiems I guess sword just breaks it but plus side passive so yeah Sword stops a lot of the fun stuff from going on with items and gets a one use action block too I guess Fell Sword can only be used by Feanor adjacent hang on theres a thought what if Feanor filled up peoples inventories with fell swords that they couldnt use and if thre isnt a discard function theyd just be stuck with buckets of useless swords probably too time consuming thougho nly one Feanor lots of epoeple lots of rounds allows for block actions and one use murder Silmaril doubles your vote @Fifth Scholar does jewel take off one of these votes or all of them Trinket now theyre fun but hard to get knife does robbery one use jewel does vote manip but passed on carving seems cool honestly but not amazing for much cause not much is secret here unless you think youre going to get converted and want to infodump before your valeus are changed against your will maybe gemstone seems a bit hmm @Fifth Scholar when it says redirect actions does it mean select a player the target of all of their actions become you or select a player all action that target them now target you Ok thats food for thought Im going to sleep befoer I pass out at my desk night night sleep tight

As the sun fell past the horizon, shining red and gold through the trees, Menelir went home. The air was warm with the fading light, and they moved through the trees with the light ease of familiarity. They leapt from stone to stone, never touching the ground out of a personal challenge. At the final leap, they grabbed a branch and swung through the air. Then they hit something that had not been there before. A spear, stabbed into the earth. The wood was smooth, devoid of splinters. They pulled it out of the earth slowly and stared at the blade, marvelling at its shine even as they recoiled. There should not have been a weapon here in this place of safety and seclusion. There should not have been a weapon at all. Menelir of the Sky and Sea held the end of an era in their hands and watched as the last of the light faded. Hi hi hi signing up as Menelir as said in the RP I do have school though so I wont be always on sadness expect like daily checkins ish bye bye

.....................I think Im going to cry hangon Ill be back Ok I didnt cry but I did make a sound that kinda sounds the dying screeches of a strangledd crow so yeah Honestly it should have clicked at the end there and maybe it did a little but I guess trust really is my fatal flaw this was great this was fun and Kasimir is always the best PM buddy even though you were evil youre still great still amazing still best taste in noodles and books and sorry to everyone I thought evil for no reason beyond my own confidence thats my bad I have to reevaluate how I think about things and my level of trust cause thats always been a problem Im a terrible endgame player gaaaah Bye bye bear hope you do well at bear college hope the fish are tasty hope the enclosure is comfy hope the world is nice and friendly and you have very nice dogs mr bear its impressive you can be friendly with them even though youre a bear and theyre dogs Time to go read docs and maybe be more sad at my play bye bye