Ba-Ado-Fisherman

I'm currently rereading tWoK, and came across an interesting passage in an early Shallan chapter. “For a few extended moments, Shallan was back in that hallway again, watching something that should not be: a heretic wielding one of the most sacred powers in all the world. The power of change itself, the power by which the Almighty had created Roshar. He had another name, allowed to pass only the lips of ardents. Elithanathile. He Who Transforms.” It could definitely be coincidence, but "the power of change itself" seems too spot on as a description of the Change Dawnshard. "The power by which the Almighty had created Roshar". Now, we know that Roshar was created by Adonalsium, not Honor, but we also know that the Dawnshards were used in the creation of all things. Also, we now know that Soulcasters originated in Aimia, the location of the Change Dawnshard. Is it possible that the Dawnshard was used in the creation of these fabrials? It sort of makes sense, seeing as Soulcasters "change" a substance into something else entirely. Now, this could simply be one of the ten aspects of the Almighty, relating to the Surge of Transformation, not the Change Dawnshard, but I thought it was worth pointing out.

I finally decided to read through the Ars Arcanum, and picked up a couple of really interesting tidbits. Most interesting to me is this line: “Fortunately, in my explorations, it appears that Stoneshaping is far less … explosive of a power, bounded by the rules that Honor placed upon it to protect from the mistakes that happened on Yolen.” Once again, we see a reference to the destructive capabilities of Surgebinding when unrestricted. What interests me most is the direct reference to Stoneshaping instead of Surgebinding in general. Could this mean that whatever happened on Yolen was a direct result of Stoneshaping taken too far?

I'd like to also point out that Adhesion, as described in the Ars Arcanum, is the Surge of "pressure and vacuum". Seems like a pretty good way to turn a tower into a livable space station.

Yes! Taln didn't break, I've been saying this for years. My man Taln escaped Braize through the perpendicularity in the Purelake. If he lasted 4,500 years, there's no reason he couldn't go on forever.

The poem is odd, because of the description of beings as either "voidish or mortal". That is a weird way to distinguish two separate groups of beings. Why would a "voidish" being not be considered mortal, and vice versa. Also, the fact that it is stated as "the Dawnshard", not "a Dawnshard", confuses me. Honestly, I have no idea which one is being referenced. I'm leaning towards Change, simply because it's the only confirmed one we have so far, but who knows.

I totally agree with this theory, even if there isn't much evidence to support it. It feels natural, and I can't see the Radiants abandoning Uruthiru in their (supposed) war against Scadrial (and maybe others). As for how the tower could be equipped for space travel, it's hard to say. All I know is that Brandon has definitely set up the mechanics of Investiture and magic systems in the Cosmere to pull it off.

Personally, I think 3 of the Dawnshards correspond with one of each of the realms. One DS to create the physical, one of the mind, and one of the spirit, with Change being the DS that is "different from the others", possibly the Dawnshard used to set time and existence into motion. I have absolutely no evidence, other than that the Dawnshards were used, possibly BY Adonalsium, to create all things. All things in the Cosmere have a body, mind and spirit.

So so many questions of BAM... I can't wait 4-5 years for answers. I wish I could go into cryo-sleep until Stormlight 5 comes out.

Yeah, I think El, back when he was Vyre, experimented with other forms of Investiture in order to gain more power. I'm guessing this is something Rayse was not happy about, therefore he stripped away Vyre's rhythms and gave him the name El. As far as the Fused during the False Desolation, I'm not sure we can rule out the possibility of SOME of them being there. Ulim is shown to be active on Roshar before and during Gavilar's feast, which was years before the Everstorm reached Roshar. Clearly there was a way for beings on Braize to travel to Roshar, and I think this will play a major role in the Ghostblood plot. Ulim shouldn't have been able to leave Braize because of his Connection to the world, yet he did (inside of a gemstone). This would be very interesting to Kelsier, I think. Maybe cognitive shadows can be trapped inside of gemstones and carried to any world that they wouldn't normally be able to exist on?

There is a connection somewhere in here... Brandon's description of El in RoW made it seem as though he has experience with hemalurgy. Hemalurgy creates these "holes" in beings' spirit webs that allows them to be influenced by other powerful beings. El might have played a major role during the False Desolation, as did Ba-Ado-Mishram. Somehow, some way this is all connected.

"many of these spren have that kind of "hole" in them" could this have to do with Ba-Ado-Mishram? Maybe her imprisonment created a 'hole' in all spren?

Nailed it right on the head.

I 100% agree. I don't think Brandon literally mean a "suckling" child. I'd guess that it's more metaphorical.

I don't think Brandon's gonna make Odium's champion a child... I know it's a popular theory, but it would be pretty lame imo. Also, I feel like the champion will have to consent to it.

Wouldn't Kaladin's baby brother make more sense than Gavinor? I forget his name, but it's said that it means "child of peace". I always thought that would come back in some way.

I'm assuming Maya will return when BAM inevitably gets released, probably in book 5. Whether or not Adolin becomes a traditional KR is still up in the air imo. Personally I would love to see Maya killed in some way, sending Adolin down a dark path of violence or something of that sort. Perhaps Dalinar inadvertently kills her? Could also see Maya get caught up in whatever Ishar was doing to those Spren at the end of RoW... That certainly has to be going somewhere. Whatever avenue Brandon decides to go down, I don't think it's something we'll be able to easily predict.

I always thought that Lift was a traditional Edgedancer that simply used Lifelight to fuel her surges instead of Stormlight. Kind of like how Venli can use Voidlight and Stormlight.

FINE, he was not BONDED. Man, I'm just gonna stop responding to you on this forum because every time I do, it leads to pointless, petty arguments over tiny details. We're not talking about anything related to my original theory at this point. Alright, this is done now.

Just accept the fact that you're wrong for once. Gavilar was not a Radiant, and he was not bonded to the Stormfather. End of discussion.

No. The Nahel bond is not formed until the words are spoken.

He was not bonded to the Stormfather. It's as simple as that.

Gavilar was bonded to the Stormfather? huh? If that's true then I'm surprised I didn't know that. Also, all 10 Alethi kingdoms were formed by Sadees' 10 sons, so the Kholins are direct descendants, but so are all highprinces.

Hence, "one Dawnshard is different from the others". Sure it's a weak theory, but there has to be something there with the Kholin bloodline.

Yeah it's absolutely insane how much foreshadowing exists in the Cosmere.

Just a little something that popped into my head recently: So we know that one Dawnshard is different from the others. We also know that Gavilar had been seeing visions before Dalinar did, very similarly, until he died. Then the visions started to come to Dalinar. We know that both Gavilar and Dalinar are descendants of Sadees aka Sunmaker. There is one very strong connection between these 3 people. They all were driven with an insatiable desire to unite people (some would call it conquest, but I digress). Also, "I am Unity". Ok, so what I'm trying to get at is there is something special about these Kholins, obviously. But even more so with the head of the Kholin family. Sunmaker, then Gavilar, then Dalinar after his brother's death. Keeping with the theme of ancestral magical abilities in Mistborn, could this Dawnshard (Unity) be the one that is different from the others, being passed on through blood in the Kholin family tree? There certainly is a pattern of "Uniting" among the Kholins. So yeah, pretty crack-poty theory, but among all of the crazy Dawnshard theories, I personally like the Dalinar/Unity one the most, and this could give it slightly more credibility.