|TJ|

There is no specific co-GM list. You can check this thread to see when someone decides to GM, and you can just ask them if you tag along as a co. Speaking of, LG list is as follows -> @Steeldancer (non-Sanderson slot not available though) @xinoehp512 has two games up there. @The Wandering Wizard also 2 slots. @Elandera @Ashbringer @Aeoryi Followed by @OoklaApologist, @A Jo in the Bush and @The Unknown Medallion.

Yeah, it has to be Ink. I'm sorry but I do not believe a villager holds Protego for SO long. It was quite obvious that the kill was either going to be me or Drake last cycle. I had myself covered because everyone knew I had the Extra Credit. I don't believe a villager holds the Protego last cycle. All of us should vote Ink here. Assuming it is 5-4 now, we can get Ink to -15. The three non-Ink elims can positive vote Ink, but it still gets us to Ink -6. (-3) Ink: TJ (-3)

BAH, I'm getting called away again -.- I'm sorry I won't be able to give time to ISOs. But I have been thinking, I have also been wondering about my survival/mippo kill - one is obvious I am in PoE and I will always be an option for paranoia-exe in end-game. But what if Ink has been telling the truth about Protego? If they actually have Protego, then (I don't remember if they v-read me but I would like to believe that) I would have been one of the top choices to Protect and they went for someone that is not likely to be Protego'ed. In this case, we are in a bizzarrely unlucky world where Verdance's Obliviate won the toss against Coco's Obliviate.

Hello hello, been a busy couple of days so just checking-in, won't be free for another 4-5 hours but I should be able to ISO Ink and Verdance before EoC.

I agree with this tbh, there is a world where both Verdance and Ink might be evil (Verdance voted -1 on Ink)(in this case I am looking at everyone trying to see if a vote on me is viable) but that is irrelevant here as we are making sure one of them always goes through. I will ISO both of them later. However, I will bring attention to another PoE we need to look at. Elims knew to target Doc with Obliviate, which means they knew Doc was a Prefect, implying there is an elim in Slytherin. That is... Wahr, TwinStorm, Aet and TUM. I am now wondering if TUM misremembering that Slytherin had revealed their Prefects to the thread might have been a slip. Wahr would go well in a team if both Ink and Verdance are evil given that he has voted for me. Anyway, my vote would be: Prefect 1 -> -1 Slytherin Suspect -> -2 Prefect 2 -> -3

Fair, I was talking from my PoV. But e!me has no incentive to reveal Doc's Owl Mail in that case, I would have just made stuff up Also, just noticing the April Fools' title for Roleplay and Games lol :P.

Hi guys, hi Drake I'm pulling a double-shift so I won't be as available for the remainder of the cycle. I'll still pop-in and check the proceedings but my thoughts right now are, in essence, that there is at least 1 elim in [Coco, Ink, Verdant].

Could you link it for me? I might have missed it. Not that it changes much I think, but I'd still like to know if the public had this information. Current VC (2-4) Grass: Wahr (1-3), TJ (1) (2-3) Coco: TJ (2-3) (2-3) Ink: TJ (2-3) (1-3) TJ: Wahr (1-3) (1-3) Hopper: Wahr (1-3)

Negative leading trains should probably be analysed differently to positive leading trains because we don't know the alignment of the players on other trains. I'll delve into this later, because I have important information. Owl Mail from Qian -> Qian suspects Aman/Drake, Mint and Wahr. Asks me to tell @Through the living Wahr that Big Leo's cape was always cooler. Ink and Coco and also a bit suspicious. Owl Mail from Doc -> Doc says he was a prefect, and that he used Protego on himself. It must have been 2 elims - one to obliviate and one to kill him. He continues to say that elims cannot learn obliviate without being prefect, so there must have been an elected elim prefect. He informs that Coco is the other house prefect. If Hufflepuff prefect is dead, there are only 3 prefects left. He asks that we put them on trial. @coco.pudding, Azalea asks me to tell Vera that she loves her. @TwinStorm & @Through the living Wahr, Azalea tells Raese and Leo to be cunning. And for all of us to avenge him. *** I agree with Doc's train of thought. Doc has no reason to lie here, and if Doc used Protego, the only way for him to die would be for someone to use Obliviate on him. He's also right that the only way for anyone to use Obliviate so far would have to be a Prefect. Only non-Obliviate spells can be used as faction elim spell, which means one of the Prefect have to be elim. We already have 1 prefect in Coco. @coco.pudding, did you use a Spell last Cycle? Hufflepuff Prefect is Verdant. They asked me not to reveal that they were the prefect last cycle to run a test, and I was leaning village on them, so I backed them. I also thought that it would detract elims from kill Ver if they were prefect-hunting. They claim not to have used a Spell last cycle. I am Ravenclaw Prefect. I used Protego on Aman last night. I had informed of this action in Ravenclaw PM before getting Owl Mail from Doc, my housemates can confirm. @DrakeMarshall, @Through the Living Ink, @Frozen Mint who is Gryffindor Prefect? Currently leaning Coco > Verdant ed1t: There might be a question of a village Prefect using Obliviate on Doc and elims just getting lucky, but the only possible village Prefect who had info that Doc was also a Prefect was Coco. But why would v!Coco Obliviate Doc when she gave +3 to him? Which is why I'm leaning that the Obliviate on Doc was deliberately by an elim.

1) Meant exe as in vote, whoever participated in Mistfallen vote 2) I meant that TUM's vibes are pinging me that he is village, not that I village-read him for pinging others :P. And I'm still trying to figure out the difference of you pretending to be helpful and actually being helpful :P. 3) Yes, but like Aman said, for opsec reasons I'm not going to confirm or deny. Either of them might have evil reasons for confirming if Mistfallen was a Prefect or not.

Okay, so I've caught up. Case (a) -> Observing/only mildly participating in Mistfallen exe (0/+1) Players - Ink, Hopper, Coco, Ms. Fallen, Comatose, TUM, Wahr Note that Comatose and Hopper did not give out ANY votes. Case (b) -> Actively participating in Mistfallen exe (+2/+3) Players - Verdant, Mint, Mippo, Doc, Qian, Twin From case (a): Removing Comatose and Hopper for no votes. Removing TUM for vibe-dar village pinging. Gives me a pool of [Ink, Coco, Ms. Fallen, Wahr] A couple of points regarding Ink. This post here sounds quite pure, despite it acknowledge there is no real reason to her votes, especially the Mint vote. This always confuses me because it plays to my tendencies to give higher weightage to pure posts than votes, which does happen with posts of newer players. We also have the worry/panic that seems to appear in Ink's post when Aman's red scan claim on Coco (which has also been acknowledged now, sigh). I do think there is a possibility that Ink and Coco might be linked. Especially because Coco also falls under case (a) players. I don't really have an opinion on Ms. Fallen, as they have posted and PMed a very limited amount. Wahr. He has posted more during this cycle but I cannot recall anything of note this cycle except - the rescinding Doc vote which I found to be a little odd. Leads me to believe Doc/Wahr not e/e. More on Coco below. From case (b): Leaning village on Verdant from PMs and I do think it is quite audacious for e!Verdant to vote +3 for a housemate, vote them for Prefect, and also kill them at the same time. I expect a new elim to play more cautiously. Mint could be linked with Ms. Fallen. Not sure if just "wanting to be Prefect" is good enough for a +3 village read (re: Mint's village read on Ms. Fallen). Leaning village on Mippo from PMs and they actually seem solv-y without an evil agenda. Regarding Doc, sigh, I do see the signs of the same performative tags (as in tagging players for questions) that did appear in the last game. He says that he has been helpful, mentions giving us info about Owl Mails, but if you recall he did similar things in the last game giving info about senders and recipients of PMs when he has Postman's Hat. I think, I issue for me is that I do not have a baseline for v!Doc; I do not recall playing with v!Doc, so everything he does seems like everything he has done before as evil >> All those things that he says are helpful, I have seen e!Doc do them, so they are all NAI to me. As a whole, I don't think I'm leaning either way. Qian, I think a tiny bit residual trust from Cycle 1 but nothing beyond that. TwinStorm, no read here either. Regarding Coco, that's 2 times now that she's asked confirmation if Mist was Prefect. Why would the answer affect your votes? I do think Coco/Ink could be quite paired and there is a possibility of Ms. Fallen and Mint as well. Which makes this an interesting VC for now -> (3-9) Miss: Doc12 (1-3), Aman (1-3), Qian (1-3) (3-9) Qian: Aman (1-3),Wahr (1-3), Mint (1-3) (3-9) Mint: Doc12 (1-3), Aman (1-3), TJ (1-3) (3-9) Coco: Wahr (1-3), Qian (1-3), TJ (1-3) (2-6) TUM: Aman (1-3), Mint (1-3) (2-6) Ink: Doc12 (1-3), TJ (1-3) (1-3) Doc: Mint (1-3),

Not sure if I did here, perhaps I only shared it in my house PM but it is with Hufflepuff. [Catching up post in a couple of hours]

Re: my strongest village vote, it was a mistake and an oversight. This was my actual vote -> Aman -> +2 Mistfallen -> +2 Qian -> +1 mippo -> +1 Araris -> -1 Hopper -> -2 I split the +6 four-way but then Archer said duplication was not allowed and I typed up a message that said to change Aman to +3 and nothing to Mippo, but apparently I never hit send and then I was away for the rest of the cycle -.- Also, I'm quite tired from yesterday because I travelled to another city and I had a shift early in the morning and the clocks went forward last night as well, which means I am sleep deprived, so I've only glanced through the thread and did not yet check last cycle's ending, so I'm just going to keep it for tomorrow. I do agree with Aman re: elims could be deliberately killing players who seemingly could win Extra Credit. This is why I did not give any numbers in my posts - The question I asked Archer was "if the person with the highest number of votes was killed, would Extra Credit be given to the next highest votes?". Archer said no and I did not mention it in the thread afterwards so as to not give elims any ideas if they hadn't thought about this. Now there could be 2 cases - (a) they are only observing where the positive votes are going and then killing in that pool or (b) they are actively contributing to the positive votes and targeting specific players to ensure they get highest votes and then killing them. Further questions arise like - "if case (b), why target-vote Mistfallen over Doc?" which leads us to think about Doc's alignment. Either Doc is e and/or they preferred to hit in Hufflepuff. We can also entirely stop giving out our positive points/names in the thread to reduces the chances of this happening again if it is case (a). We'll also know for sure that if it happens again, it means we are in case (b) world. I'd like to cast a net on both case (a) and case (b), we do have 3 slots to give negative points to, and I'll need to check for any relations and pairings to see if anything makes either case more likely than the other and the 3rd slot can go to that. I'll need to re-read for that though, and that is for tomorrow. Sorry, like I said, I am quite tired >> @mippo I try to check SE at work, but I do get interrupted and I do not do any re-read or analysis which would lead to long posts when I am at work as I'm afraid I'd lose the post. Another quick thought - purely vibe-reading TUM as village for not submitting any positive points.

It's been very quiet in Ravenclaw tbh, there's barely been any talk. Hopper the most suspicious out of everyone but only because they want the Prefect the most. I don't have any reads on Ms. Fallen. V-reading Mippo but due to thread reasons (nudge on Wahr) and not anything in the PM. I have been pondering if our House is pure but if it isn't, Hopper is most likely to be evil. I have mentioned about not being able to read new players so, I'm not sure about Ms. Fallen at all. Aman - I don't have any other village reads, so I don't know who else to give positive points to. Everyone else - I'm heading out to watch a football match live and it's likely I won't be able to contribute much more to the cycle.

These would be my positive and negative votes. I will keep the exact numbers to myself till I get a confirmation about something from Archer. Heading to sleep for the night zzzzz

Village is Mistfallen, Qian and Aman (I also liked mippo's nudge on Wahr) Evil is Araris Ed1t: and maybe hopper

Ah, forgot to mention one thing. Aman-Wahr interaction is not e/e I feel. I agree with Aman's observation regarding Wahr's behaviour change but I also agree that Wahr's defence is a valid one. Having been involved in the L1D1 vote of Wahr in the last game, I understand their cautiousness could equally be from village or evil and needs future scrutiny. Also, what's with the Doc village-reads smh >> He says no one is going to trust him after his evil games and then reels everyone in with his RP anyway :P. Sidenote, but I just realised there is an incredible similarity to how (either) I read (or their playstyles itself of) Doc and Fifth, and I mean that extremely complementarily. It's their most village-seeming games that they are actually evil :P.

This game gives me major LG104 vibes, which is why I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that Archer would have done a TJ and put all evil players in one group :P. I have no idea what any of this means... Ehhh, I disagree, because assuming Archer would have pity is dangerous by itself. Bunching up elims does end up nerfing them in terms of information as they have access to lesser number of Houses but I adjusted that by adding an extra elim, so it was 5 elims in an 18 player game. granted 5 elims in a 17 player game WITH the rule about parity wincon is highly unlikely but just putting this out there anyway. Besides, trying to outguess GMs is always a bad idea and delving into elim number combination within groups is also a dangerous game, so I'll just call it as I see it in-thread. Gahh, I hate derpclears so muchh smh >> But I think the fact the Aman immediately turned it around and treated it as a reaction test comes from a villager-y mindset. Village-lean. I think Araris having a base reluctance to exe anyone in itself is weird, but considering it's 2 players who are neither new nor returning, I think it deserves mentioning. Elim lean. Ah, I see I'm not the only one in flashbacks. You seem to have forgotten that I was MIA for basically 1.5 Loops :P. Apparently, Slow Start is my MO. Regarding Ravenclaw, Hopper does seem to be overeager to get the Prefect role. I was just pondering whether just voting Ms. Fallen for Prefect was the best idea here as I was again drawing parallel to LG104 where Drake elected a new player (sorry, I'm not able to recall the name as a Sitter and then they won the Amyrlin Seat election and basically won the game for the village. This is also based statistically off the fact the debut players tend to rarely get elim-randed. I do admit to have a blindspot when it comes to new players, so I'm not really sure who to vote for Prefect, which is why Ms. Fallen seems like a better option of the 3. Other stuff - agreed with the village on Mistfallen and Qian. Not sure what the TUM case was, so let me just re-read.

>> I was not aware no smh (Did I mention to not let me RP? >>)

The youngest lad! Ceadach is quite obviously Northern Irish in looks xD Relatively short but messy grungy hair of the colour dark brown-ish with just a tinge of red. He doesn't wear glasses and uhh that should be it. Also, omg hi Mint!

Look at Doc, already scheming smh and the game has not even started. Now he gets to choose the best House for himself :P.

Sign me up as Ceadach O'Neall. Year 4 Quidditch Keeper.

Yayyy exe-ing you over Burnt was right!! Very good game, Coco! Honoured to have played with you! GG elims! Would've have been a very close game if we had continued

Okay now even though I was most recently wrong, I feel vindicated because guys. I felt SO guilty for convincing y'all away from Burnt exe towards Coco and then Burnt ended up with the Mask. (But this means we entered Loop 3 with Burnt, Coco and Doc with quite a large sum of rupees oooof. )

okay okay TwinStorm