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The problem is if TUN isn’t lying about not being back then he’s definitely village and I want to kill turtle Who’s with me? :P. Is there a reason Archer isn’t the common denominator here? We’re worried about turtle/Archer and TUN/Archer but not killing Archer. Probably just me misunderstanding things again?
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Hence my username I should really know that old tongue then
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The answer to that is yes, amazing series and sooo fulfilling to finish. Plus Brandon finished it. Idk the saying though which is kinda embarrassing
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If it’s Archer and Turtle your exe loses the game. If it’s either but only one then we still can win. I think Stick is banking on Archer/turtle not being e/e which makes sense to me but idk
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Ohh right because the manip is single use, so a 4-2 today becomes a 3-2 tomorrow which is unwinnable. Hmm. TUN. I have been convinced of the risk. Archer's right in that we'd need literally everyone else though. Dead doc loves this no matter who's elim, I bet. Still don't think it's likely that there's four elims in this game but I'm down to not take risks :P.
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In your scenario, allowing Shining to shoot v!turtle lets the ratio today be 4-2, and at that point even if we all pile on TUN, Archer can force the tie and still win, right? So I don't see the point in TUN blocking Shining's kill, it's just unnecessary. @_Stick_ I think that's the biggest thing for me about your theory but I also might just be wrong :P.
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Skimmed it right after I woke up, sorry, reread it I understand now Will think about it during my reread. I agree that Archer/TUN as a team acts like this but I’m still not sure how much I buy a 4 person team with a Coinshot and a Kas kill makes sense to me no matter what he claimed
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So… does your proposed team not have turtle in it, I guess? How did they survive the attack, then? v!them wouldn’t lie about it and no one else claimed it.
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Worst case ratio wise is 5-2 and a single vote manip brings that to 4-3. A four person team is already more than normal (28%) and adding a Coinshot and two riots is more than excessive. So I don’t really think this is a looming threat /shrug If you’re right and we lose then brownie points for you I suppose But I don’t see it.
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Stick, I don’t think anyone except Illwei was thinking about e!Kas anymore and Turtle would have witnessed firsthand lylo Kas during the QF (he’d want me to point out Devo held him together and yes yes but he still had to end up on us in the end) but the amount of words he was putting out is enough reason to kill him. And if we’re at lylo right now then I don’t even know >> Will reread this morning and vote but I bet it’ll be turtle, that feels like too much tinfoil for me
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I refuse to vote turtle in this post
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Ni su'cuyi, gar kyr'adyc, ni partayli, gar darasuum, Kas. Sorry for paranoiding you but I suppose this wouldn’t have been a normal game without it Totally didn’t copy paste that first line If you protected turtle please claim it because I currently don’t really believe that they didn’t self protect… unless e!TUN knew his only chance was if turtle was still alive today, but that’d be a weird play with the current ratio since he’d still be second and really needs every kill he can get. I’m not sure if I’ll reconsider on ending on turtle since like rereading D1 isn’t going to change anything for me lol. They were inactive and I’m sure as heck not killing Stick right now.
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TUN claims to have protection, which adds another layer of IKYK to everything since they’re probably my number two elim pick but there’s a chance you have some security there, Shining. Follow your instincts, after playing two games with you I already know they’re good ones
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So everyone is village for you except for TUN?
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Kas had some good posts last turn of why Stick is village. Here, I'll actually just go grab a quote: Found in this post, more detailed stuff in there. But I agree.
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I'll be honest, the last thing I need right now are roleclaims that go heavily against my idea of a balanced distro >> @Archer what do you think about Shining's claim? And Kas please weigh in some opinions
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In my experience, roles are rarely divided evenly because that’s bad for balance So if you’re not claiming Coinshot then no, I don’t think there’s three village ones. Kinda hesitating about there being three at all
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You’re not claiming Coinshot, I hope >>
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Less likely than two village for sure. If Archer’s a Coinshot I bet he’s village.
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Ok thank you Stick lol Just try to block the elim kill then, TUN.
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The vote manip. And I don’t know. Guess that’s part of my annoyance :P. Would have been better to leave my powers up in the air. No immediate objections to shooting Turtle but someone should run the numbers to see if that costs us a cycle if you’re wrong. Just guess for the NK for sure. Don’t do me or Kas, I don’t think you’d be targets. My guess would be in Wiz/Shining/Stick. Elims, you’re welcome for the IKYK. [Warning: From here on out is me rambling when I should be sleeping; it’s quite disorganized] Ah whatever, I’ll run the numbers myself. Sorry if the following only makes sense to me. 7-1, 6-1, 4-1, 2-1, 0-1, three chances 7-1, 5-1, 3-1, 1-1, two chances So a miss on turtle does cost us a cycle which is too bad. My PoE at this point is in an order of [Turtle/TUN, Kas/Archer] and if I had to order that further it’d probably be TUN, Turtle, Kas, Archer. The good news is that if Archer clears himself and turtle dies and flips village that leaves me two candidates and two cycles so all I have to do is not be wrong (which I have a great record of this game >>) but idk Actually, TUN, can you block Archer? (Protect turtle I mean) I changed my mind, I’d rather have you two confirm each other. I think that’s more valuable. I really don’t want to hypothesize the likelihood of two v Coinshots with three in existence in a 14 player game but in the chance Archer is lying I’m… not sure exactly because if there isn’t a kill (elim or otherwise) that looks bad for Archer but the last elim doesn’t want Archer to be confirmed. Is there any advantage to Archer lying here? Like is there a way he can get away with being ‘cleared’. I thought there was but now I can’t seem to figure out what it is lol But if Archer and TUN confirm each other, like, unless that’s the team (unlikely) I don’t really see how both can’t be telling the truth and that’s useful since they’re half my PoE at this point. Off to bed, someone tell me why I’m wrong before I wake up. Archer I guess I should ask if you’re fine with using your kill to purposefully fail, maybe it gets refunded? Ok actually I should ask @Ashbringer if someone protects the person being killed, what results do the protector and the attacker get? If the protector misses, what result do they get? Turtle could also theoretically confirm they were attacked/survived
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